Jacob Soboroff

Yeah, they sure did, Steph. And I have to say, it was really an extraordinary experience to spend time with these four really remarkable individuals. For people that weren't watching earlier in the broadcast, I want to reintroduce them to you all very briefly. Starting here in the lower right-hand part of your screen, it's Nigella Nakuna, who was fired from the U.S.

Digital Service, which was the precursor to Doge, to her left. is Alex Taylor, who was fired from the U.S. Geological Survey. Behind Alex is Jesus Murillo, fired from HUD. And Catherine Steele was fired from the U.S. Forest Service. I want to ask a broad question first. It might sound cheeky, but I really do mean it sincerely.

Digital Service, which was the precursor to Doge, to her left. is Alex Taylor, who was fired from the U.S. Geological Survey. Behind Alex is Jesus Murillo, fired from HUD. And Catherine Steele was fired from the U.S. Forest Service. I want to ask a broad question first. It might sound cheeky, but I really do mean it sincerely.

Does anybody feel like they understand better why they were fired after watching the speech tonight? Nobody. Yeah. Okay. Jesus, let me start with you here. I said before you were a presidential management fellow. This is a very elite program within the federal government to bring in the best and the brightest.

Does anybody feel like they understand better why they were fired after watching the speech tonight? Nobody. Yeah. Okay. Jesus, let me start with you here. I said before you were a presidential management fellow. This is a very elite program within the federal government to bring in the best and the brightest.

The entire program has been terminated after 48 years under Democratic and Republican presidents. When President Trump said about the federal bureaucracy, my administration will reclaim power from this unaccountable bureaucracy, it bugged you in a particular way.

The entire program has been terminated after 48 years under Democratic and Republican presidents. When President Trump said about the federal bureaucracy, my administration will reclaim power from this unaccountable bureaucracy, it bugged you in a particular way.

And you said a large portion of your time was actually... responding to congressional inquiries about whether or not the money was being spent appropriately in the case of the housing and urban development department.

And you said a large portion of your time was actually... responding to congressional inquiries about whether or not the money was being spent appropriately in the case of the housing and urban development department.

So what you're saying is the Trump administration canceled the presidential management fellows, um, program, uh,

So what you're saying is the Trump administration canceled the presidential management fellows, um, program, uh,

Forest Service. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only time we heard anything about public lands was when President Trump renamed a national wildlife refuge in Texas to honor the victim of a killing by an undocumented immigrant. We didn't hear anything about federal lands otherwise, did we?

Forest Service. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only time we heard anything about public lands was when President Trump renamed a national wildlife refuge in Texas to honor the victim of a killing by an undocumented immigrant. We didn't hear anything about federal lands otherwise, did we?

I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that it didn't seem like wild lands, the land management agencies, were even on the radar of the president in this speech at all.

I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that it didn't seem like wild lands, the land management agencies, were even on the radar of the president in this speech at all.

Najela, let's talk about you are at the U.S. Digital Service, the precursor to Doge. But one of your main focuses was on making the immigration system, including the enforcement system, more efficient. And the president touted all these accomplishments that he said were accomplishments about immigration, about deportations, closing the border. The part that

Najela, let's talk about you are at the U.S. Digital Service, the precursor to Doge. But one of your main focuses was on making the immigration system, including the enforcement system, more efficient. And the president touted all these accomplishments that he said were accomplishments about immigration, about deportations, closing the border. The part that

watched you react to most strongly was when he said, the media and our friends in the Democrat Party keep saying we need new legislation. We must have legislation to secure the border. But it turned out that all we really needed was a new president. What bugged you so much about that?

watched you react to most strongly was when he said, the media and our friends in the Democrat Party keep saying we need new legislation. We must have legislation to secure the border. But it turned out that all we really needed was a new president. What bugged you so much about that?

Which you yourself have been working on in terms of efficiency.