Jacob Ward
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135 appearances
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first heard May 2026
last heard 28 May
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If you change, the system changes.
If the system changes, you change.
And this leads to all of these slightly kind of wacky ideas about consciousness transformation.
But that continues also to the present day in societies and academics looking at, you know, again, nature and ecology and consciousness and what are the relationship between these things.
Jacob, you wanted to come in there.
Yeah, I think this point about cybernetics as a decision-making tool is really key.
And it's something that you see come up in many other things at the time at RAND and elsewhere, looking at cybernetics as a way to think about how can we make decisions better?
How can we optimize systems?
There's an overlap with another field, another post-war science that dies away, which is the science of futurology.
How can you predict the future?
using different techniques.
And for example, Daniel Bell, the famous American sociologist, he chairs a commission on the year 2000 in the 1960s in the USA.
And in his book, The End of Ideology, he talks about how cybernetics is one of these decision sciences, which can help build through rational decision making, help us build a utopia.
So there's this really this kind of utopia through automated decision tools and cybernetic decision tools and decision sciences.
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