Jacqueline Newman

So I think it's really important, though, to have these conversations.

And the story I tell often about this, which I hope

gets home with your viewers is I had a client once I represented a woman who was marrying a man who was much older than she was, who was also very, very wealthy.

And we were having a settlement conference and he would not talk about money.

He'd always be like, don't worry about it.

You know, I got that taken care of, you know, you don't have to think about it.

And for her, she felt that it was really, really belittling.

And she thought that he didn't think she was smart enough to understand money.

And he was being secretive.

And there was all these reasons.

And why wouldn't he talk about it?

And so we were in the room together.

And, you know, he's kind of shutting her down.

She's screaming at him.

He's rolling his eyes like they're just like, I mean, it was just a really bad dynamic.

She's crying.

And it got to a point where me and the other attorney were like, okay, enough.

I said to her, you're not going to yell at him anymore and you're going to let him finish the sentence.

And I turned to him and I said, you're going to hear her and not roll your eyes.

And that's how we're going to do this.