Jacqueline Newman

And at the end of the day, it came out that the reason that money was so important to him was because his father said he'd never amount to anything.

And money was the only thing his father, from his view, cared about.

And so for him...

This was all about getting his father's approval.

And it was almost felt money was was hurtful to him because it was so much about that.

It wasn't about eating.

It wasn't about.

And it was like he'd never have enough because his father just never would give him the approval.

And so talking about it was so painful to her when she heard that it was so it showed it had nothing to do with her.

You know, it was just he just didn't want to share that part of himself with her.

And they ended up having this amazing conversation.

But she's hysterical throughout half of it.

She comes to my office at the end of it.

Tears still brimming on her eyelids.

And she says to me, I am so glad that happened.

And I'm thinking to myself, oh, my God, that was hell.

Like, I can't believe that we're so happy about that.

And she said, I would have gone my entire marriage and never knew that.

I would have always assumed it was about me.

I would have always assumed he just thought I was too young and dumb to understand anything.