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Jad Abumrad (host) / main Radiolab host voice

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514 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

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Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl

Bert Hirsch.

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Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl

I'm a lawyer.

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Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl

He lives in Long Island now, which is where I visited him.

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Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl

But in 1967... The fall of 67, I was on the staff of the Association on American Indian Affairs.

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Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl

sort of a legal advocacy group for American Indians.

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Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl

And he traveled all over, working with different tribes.

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Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl

One day, he gets a phone call from this guy, Lewis Goodhouse.

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Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl

The tribal chair of the Devil's Lake Sioux tribe in North Dakota.

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Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl

And this guy says, I really need your help.

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Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl

He said there was a child.

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Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl

A devil's late kid, one of ours, that was just abruptly taken away by social workers.

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Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl

He was six.

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Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl

What was their stated reason for taking Ivan away?

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Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl

Neglect.

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Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl

Because what?

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Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl

Because grandma wasn't around?

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Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl

No, actually, Bird says that the social workers were looking for that classic nuclear family.

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Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl

Biological mother, biological father, children.

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Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl

So when they saw him with an older relative, but no mom or dad, they thought, uh-oh.

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Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl

And they took him away.