Jake Ducey

And I wanted, I think there's too many people that are depressed, too many people that don't like their jobs, too many people that aren't confident, too many people that don't know who they are.

And, you know, if I could build a living, you know, helping people in regard to that, you know, I'm all

in.

Um, it was, I think it's two 56.

I think it was a 60,000 word book.

That one.

Um, it took me a few months, three months, probably something like that.

Yeah, I like writing books.

I write books not to build a brand, so.

Yeah, there's a Penguin Random House audio version, which was, you know, that was pretty cool.

I remember being 19 and in my college dorm room, ready to drop out, listening to, you know, the beginning of the Penguin Random House books.

You are now listening to Penguin audio.

And I'm in the studio with these guys doing it.

So yeah, they did the audio too.

That was cool.

Wow.

And this launch was what?

What date?

That came out June or January 2nd, 2015.

So like, was it 15 months ago?