Jake Humphrey

to him as well and he went sober for six months like it was a really positive time you know great my biggest one was I thought it was more than just a conversation I thought it was going to feel like a huge thing yeah and I remember walking out of the first one thinking well that's weird I've just had a chat for an hour and a half yeah surely this doesn't lead to anything

and I like the fact that it felt like nothing does that make sense it's nice it doesn't feel like a big thing in your week it's just like alright I've got a few meetings there's no diagrams have a game of tennis have a bit of therapy then have some dinner it feels like nothing in the nicest possible way final question final question here we go how do you talk to your kids especially your sons about their feelings and what do you want them to know that you weren't taught

really talk to your son your kids especially your sons that's really interesting I definitely find it harder with my boys than I do with my girl definitely yeah yeah like I notice that and like I have to I have to remind myself as a parent to try and be more equal with them I find it much easier to wrap my arms around my daughter and tell her that everything's going to be fine and that she's safe and you know she needn't worry and nightmares aren't real and the BFG or whatever was on the Tony like doesn't isn't real and

You know, give examples of other stories that Roald Dahl's written that, you know, aren't scary and, you know, it's just, it's all make pretend.

And I'll take her upstairs into bed with me and let her fall asleep on my chest and like stroke her hair and make sure she feels, you know, all of, you know, the security and the safety and the love.

I don't do that with the boys.

Really?

Far sterner with the boys.

And now you think, why does it matter if he dived into a hoopla?

I really loved it.

We should do this more often.

Yeah, it's been nice.

Thanks, guys.

I feel like I've got friends for the first time.

Look, if any of that resonated, please don't just scroll past it.

I've learned that ignoring what's going on in your head doesn't make it go away.

It just makes everything else harder.

I hope that you took something away from that.

Therapy is not weakness.

And if something's landed in this conversation, please just sit with it.