Jake Kleinberg
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147 appearances
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard Apr 2025
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The Athletic NBA Daily · Pistons beat Celtics + "Court of Gold" behind the scenes · 27 Feb 2025
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Let me take some of your cringe away, because I think it speaks volumes of who both of them are, where President Obama. is creating an environment where guys are comfortable enough being themselves. He could easily come in and be like, I'm the president. How dare you talk to me that way? But he didn't. He was cool.
He was actually kind of like getting more out of Ant by bringing LeBron in and be like, you hear what he said? So he's creating a comfortable environment for Ant, which shows how cool President Obama is. Then Ant is being completely himself because that's what makes Ant great. And he's comfortable being himself no matter who he's in front of, whether it's us or the president.
And so it shows how cool Ant is. So while I understand it's like,
Yeah, it's really hard. Episode one was the last episode we finished because you're just constantly making sure the setup is accurate to what you're showing. I think what you want to do is – for basketball fans, the dream team has been covered at Nazim. Like everyone knows the dream team in every detail and every game and the Monaco practice and all that. So the basketball fans –
The NBA fans need to see it from a different perspective, which is like you're telling a dream team story because you're showing how the world is catching up. For the non-basketball fans, you have to give them enough information to understand what the dream team was for the context of the show and then move on to the show.
So it's a balance of like how much do you incorporate because there have been –
multi-part series docs on the dream team so you could technically do one you don't have the time in the show you need to make sure you're giving enough information to people who don't know the dream team and not enough not too much information where the people who do know about the dream team are bored so you're walking that fine line of like what's too much and what isn't um and i think that's always a balancing act when you're looking back and telling something archivally
That's really interesting from a creation perspective of like the first episode was actually the last to be created, which is really, really cool. You never think of it that way. We made many versions of it, but it was the last to be like that's where we're landing. Right, right, right.
I wanted to ask about the end credit sort of sequence that you guys had with Wemby saying the league better watch out or the world better watch out next. Yeah. Is there a potential for like a quarter cold two in 2028 with, you know, it being in L.A. and all that type of stuff? Is there potential for a second part to this thing?
It's not my call. I have a cog in the machine. However, I think that basketball is ripe for that kind of programming, because when you have something that. Everyone around the world can latch on to. It's rare that it crosses country boundaries and basketball does. So when you have a tournament, it's going to be probably the most competitive ever in 28 because this one is it was competitive.
The USA still won 28, I think, is going to be like there's going to be five teams that could win it and it's going to be close.
So I think it's right for some sort of ancillary programming and some sort of doc around it, whether that's quarter goal two or something else, it deserves it. And not my call. So hopefully that happens. But yeah, I think it would be a smart move for a lot of people involved. We got to get Jake in there.
Yes. Words and Pictures was working closely with the women's team last summer. And I think that the hope is that the women's game is has never had more eyes on it. And rightly so. It's an awesome game with a lot of amazing personalities and a lot of just the talent is unbelievable. So now is a good moment to get that going.
out there and to seize the moment and really take it to the next level and make sure it stays at that next level and doesn't just have a moment and go down. Um, so yeah, I think there is a world in which they're like, I think a lot of people want that. And so I hope that, that it comes to life because it could be very cool.
That would be very cool because it feels like also internationally, there's so much talent there on the women's side, too, that's grown. Jake Rogel, thank you very much for joining us here. Creator of Court of Gold. Incredible Netflix doc, if you guys haven't already. I mean, spoiler warning for this whole thing, but you probably know.
You probably if you if you're sleeping under a rock, if you don't know what's going on. Jake, thank you very much. As always, Zena, myself and thank you to Dave Dufour. Thank you for listening to the Athletic NBA Daily. We will see you guys next time. Take care.
Yeah.
Mm hmm.
Yes.
Memphis will be fine. It is not going to move the needle.
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