Jake Shane
Appearances
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 54: Katy Perry
Solving your problems with the famous person on the couch It's Therapus He's got you on the hook He's slaying and he's shook It's Therapus, Therapus, Therapus, Therapus With me, Jake Shane Surprise pussies!
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
If you want to see if I'm coming to a city near you, go to pastthatpuss.com and click live with Jake Shane. And to submit Tell Me What's Wrong, go to pastthatpuss.com and click Tell Me What's Wrong. And leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy. Okay, well, enjoy the episode. I love you, pussies. Hi, Pussies, and welcome back to Therapist.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Yeah, usually Bravo. What Bravo shows do you watch?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Respectfully, I think it's so done. Yeah. After Skandival, it's like, how do you come back? I agree. You can't. They're obviously going to film with each other, but it's obviously like Ariana's not coming back, so what's the point?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Und Ariana ist die Hostin von Love Island, die das macht.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
And you started in 2019, right? Yeah, pre-COVID. Yeah, what's the difference, SNL pre-COVID versus post-COVID?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
TikTok hat uns wirklich geholfen, für die jüngere Generation zu nehmen.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Aber dann wurde das Audio entfernt oder so. Ich weiß. Ist das verrückt? Warum wurde das entfernt?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Today we have actress and comedian, one of my favorite impressionists out there right now, Chloe Fineman.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Were you guys expecting Domingo to be like Domingo?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Like it just kind of was like, oh, okay, got it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
You really are. Do you have a place here as well?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Ja, es ist wirklich cool. Es gibt manchmal einen Kamera-Store, wo ich gehe. Ich nehme keine Fotos, aber ich gehe rein, um zu sehen, wie ich es tue. Um zu sehen, wie du es liest. Ja, und ich sage, hallo, und ich frage, wie viel ist das? Und ich frage für den Preis ein paar Dinge, und dann gehe ich raus.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
You do do the greatest impressions of all time. I don't know if you consider yourself an impressionist, but you do the world's greatest impressions.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Wann hast du das letzte Mal, als du ein Buch geschrieben hast?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
I read The Housemaid. That was like the first book I read in years and years and years and years and years. That was good.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Right, right. Do you get annoyed when people are like, can you do this impression for me? Or do you just like love doing it?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Were you nervous when you weren't? Was it Jimmy Fallon or Jimmy Kimmel? And then he had you do the list of celebrities. Fallon. Fallon. Were you nervous?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Yeah, you definitely are. I haven't heard of any other pickleball movies. Right? Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Do you love, do you prefer doing like an improv or like a scripted thing?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Paul and Lucia and Jen are like so... You know when you can tell why a show is as funny as it is? It's because the environment is so good. I walked onto set and they were like... Es ist so, dass du kreativ so nicht verurteilt fühlst. Von der Person bis zum Boom-Operator. Alle kennen sich. Alle waren so nett. Ich war so furchtbar. Aber sie waren so, okay, für das hier, mach nur Spaß mit es.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Normalerweise wäre ich so furchtbar, aber du ... Das ist wahrscheinlich, wie sie die Hälfte von Meg Stalter als ikonisch bekommen. Sie wäre großartig als SNL-Hostin.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
What are you watching right now? I mean, Last of Us last night. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Okay, so I didn't watch it last night. I didn't watch it. I didn't watch it last night, but people are freaking out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
No! Nein. Ja. Besser als lange, lange Zeit. Ja. Ja. Und weinen.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Okay, I won't Google. Whatever you do. I will never forget. Like, I hate spoilers more than anything. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Yeah. Theory. I also do like Reddit theories. Theory. Yeah, I call it theory. Oh, it's just, you know, it's... Yeah, it's all up there. Have you ever seen The Leftovers?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
It's the best. I just watched it because of White Lotus and it's unbelievable. She's amazing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Yeah, she's like Chicago theater vibes. Yeah, exactly. She's like in it, in it, in it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Who else, what else are you watching? So Last of Us, Hacks.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
I'm the only one not watching Love on the Spectrum. You have to watch Love on the Spectrum.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, truly. And that's who you guys like really freak out over. I think so, yeah. This episode of Therapist is brought to you by Booking.com. Booking.com. I am so excited that Booking.com has come back to sponsor us again. They are the greatest. And it is about to be summer. So Booking.com will be more useful than ever.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
So on Booking.com you put in where you are staying, what you need. Like I need it to be walkable. I need a terrace. I need two beds. I need one bed. And they will give you hotels and rooms and vacation rentals. You can also do car rentals. You can really create a well-rounded trip.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
an booking.com um as you guys know like on tour we would pull up to a city we would have nowhere booked and we'd be like what do we do and then matt would be like pull up booking.com just quickly type in exactly what we need and we'd have a hotel and i just wouldn't be worried like they always help me figure it out like for me I love being able to walk because I don't drive.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
And I also love to wake up in the morning and walk and explore the city I'm in. So having it be walkable to things is very, very important to me. And so being able to put that in and get a hotel that's walkable to things is just amazing. So I'm so happy that they're a sponsor of this podcast because I really like they are truly the best. Like I cannot say like they just make life easier.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
So thank you booking.com for sponsoring tonight's episode. Book today on the site or in the app. Find exactly what you're booking for at booking.com. Booking. Yeah! Thanks booking.com for sponsoring tonight's episode. That's crazy. What starstruck you've ever been? Meryl Streep. Meryl Streep. When did she come?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Oh, yeah, she does it in Devil Wears Prada, which are, like, hold on.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Oh mein Gott. Well, she's from theater as well. I'm pretty sure she did Yale theater. Yeah, she did Yale. Wow, that's incredible. Oh my God. Okay, last SNL question. What is the most fun you've ever had at an after party?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Okay, yeah. Kai ist, like, 26. Well, the after after has a password, too, right? Right, and you're always, like, shoop. Yeah, you're shoop or something, and it's always, like, I just copy. Yeah, like, razor laser. Sorry. But I once was at an after after, and I looked up, and it was bright out. And I was, like, um...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Ja, ja. Und ist es so furchtbar, weil du auch auf nationaler TV bist?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Oh, that would make me feel so much more secure.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Right. Yeah. Do you remember a moment where you're like, oh my God, I just bombed?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Ich bin besessen mit dir. Ich bin wirklich besessen.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Well, it was like a cry for help. I got on the plane.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
It was Southwest. I've never ever been on Southwest before. Sorry. It's okay. I've never been on Southwest. And I got on and my manager was like, okay, so when you go on, it's like the Hunger Games. And I was like, what the fuck do you mean? And she was like... Were you not A? You obviously were A. I was A. But she was like, you have to bolt for your seat. You have to go get your seat.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
It's like the cornucopia. I was like, oh, okay, got it. So I sat down, my phone was at 3%. I thought I was so one with the world. I was like, I'll just charge my phone on the plane.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
And then I was like, oh my god, there's no charger. So I 3% left and it was like shooting up like a, what is it? Like a SOS.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
And I was like, oh yeah, no, I shot up heroin and then I posted about that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Okay, so I posted it on my TikTok, like, Please help me. If you don't see me, I love you. Because really, I was like, what? Yeah, you're dying. It's a death. I'm like sitting there like, there's no TV. I don't have a book. My Nintendo's dead.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
What the fuck am I supposed to do? Yeah. And my friend wasn't sitting next to me. How long was the flight going to be? It was only 50 minutes. But I was freaking out. And then I felt a tap on my shoulder. It was like from God. And she was like, hey, I saw your TikTok and I have a portable charger for you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
You can cry on command? Absolutely. How did you learn to do that?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Okay. Okay. Okay. I haven't. I'm on Prozac. I haven't cried.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Well, we also follow each other. I also forget that sometimes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Oh my God, I totally forgot that's how you get Wi-Fi in planes. You can't be over the ocean.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
I just swiped up on something you posted. What was it again?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
It's not working. But it is. It's working for you. I know. It's amazing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
No, I've had days too. You have had a day. What do you mean you've had a day?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
I don't even drive. You know I don't have a license? Mm-hmm.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Every day, three times a day. I get the same driver sometimes. Hey, girl. Yeah. I Uber three to four times a day. Every day.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
I just, my only issue is sometimes I'm not in the mood to talk, but I feel so rude not speaking and not asking how everyone's day was. That's really good. So it's like, I wish I had a car for that reason, but I refuse to use Waymo.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Because I'm like, that puts people out of a job.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
So I'm like, you know, I don't, I do miss that. I want that feeling of driving and singing with no one watching. I've never had that. I've always been in the car with someone else. I've never been in the car alone.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Because before I did this podcast, I was going to do a show where I had different celebrities teaching me how to drive.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
And it was a whole to-do, so then I ended up with Therapus. I get that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Oh mein Gott. Ja, sie war einfach so gehypt, dass ich mich verletzt habe.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Good sushi, good frozen yogurt. Yep, Sephora. Don't want anything else.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Wait, so can you tell me about the plot of the movie Summer of 69? Because I know it, but I don't know if the pussies know it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
I had a little college Q&A. Thank you, college. I'll never forget it. That was when I posted a shirtless photo of myself. One of my followers swiped up and was like, your condition with your boobs is because of smoking.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Das ist so wunderschön. Und der Schriftsteller heißt Santa Monica?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Okay, fantastisch. Und warst du ein Teil des kreativen Prozesses, das Skript zu schreiben, oder warst du nur im Kasten?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
What is your, I know this is kind of, number one, that sounds incredible and I'm so excited to see it. Number two, what is your favorite movie of all time?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
My favorite movie is Devil Wears Prada. The most or, yeah, Devil Wears Prada. It's like the gayest answer, but it's true. Because I'll always say, when I watched that movie when I was a kid, I was like, I will never make the mistake Anne Hathaway made in that movie, and I will always put my work above everything.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Which isn't the message you're supposed to take from it, but that's what I took. I was like, damn, she fumbled that bag. Like, she left Paris.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Was hast du gelesen? Oder hast du es gesehen, als es rausgekommen ist?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Und ich war so, oh mein Gott, ich fühle mich so gesehen. Wer bist du? Wer identifizierst du? Hannah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Right, okay, well, Shoshanna's the best character.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
You did bring up your virginity story before we started this podcast.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
This isn't me being creepy, by the way. Chloe literally brought this up.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
And she was like, I have a story, a virginity story, and then we just started. And I never really followed up about it, but now I am. I'll tell you mine after.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Or do you want me to start? Whatever you're more comfortable with.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Okay, okay. Mine is, I was like, fuck, I need to have sex. Like, I'm 22 years old, and I haven't, 21, I'm 21 years old, and I haven't had sex.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
No, college. And I'm like, this is ridiculous. So I went on Grindr, and I'm like, I just need to find someone to have sex with me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
At this point. Found this 32-year-old guy, and I was like, huh. He seems cute. And then by the information given to me by him, I google what I find to be someone and it says he's 39. But he's from Johannesburg. And I'm like, oh, this doesn't seem like... That's South Africa. Yes, and I'm like, this doesn't seem like the same guy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
This guy kind of has like a valley girl accent, or like American accent.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Weed. I used to smoke every day, 24-7, all the time. I haven't smoked in five months.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
You know, like, he doesn't have a South African accent.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Well, no, but like, I'm just thinking, oh, it's not the same guy, because he wouldn't lie about being 32 instead of 39. So then I go over to his house, don't eat for the entire day. Once you're 39, you lie and say you're 32. Right, right. Und ich kam auf, er hat mir einen Wein gemacht und ich war so, woher kommst du? Und er war so, Johannesburg. Ich war so, wie alt bist du jetzt?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Und er war so 32, wie, sehe ich älter aus? Und ich war so, und in diesem Moment hätte ich gelacht und gesagt, nein. Und wir sind nach oben gegangen und hatten Sex. Und dann war ich so, oh mein Gott, ich kann nicht glauben, dass ich Sex hatte. Und ich war so, hast du eine Zigarette?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Und er war so, hast du mir nur eine Zigarette gefragt, damit du sagen könntest, dass du eine Zigarette nach Sex getrunken hast? Und das ist meine Vergangenheit.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
I know. Wow. I miss it. I literally miss it every day in my life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
I had to. I was being like so lazy and so uncreative and I thought it was making me so creative and it just like, I wasn't. Whoa.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Okay, gut. Ich war so besorgt, dass das es war. Weil es chaotisch war.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
No, it's important to the story. Yeah, they were going antiquing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Sorry, I don't mean to scare you, but do you know about the tell me what's wrongs?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
No, no, I so appreciate the half lie. But basically the tell me what's wrongs are the pussies write in and they tell us what's wrong.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
and we give them advice. Also, before we finish, do you think, if I asked you at the end to do an impression of me, you'd be able to?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Yeah, the voice is, oh God, when you get that voice, it's just.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
You are. Wait, can I pretend to interview... Before we get into the tell me what's wrongs, can I pretend to interview Drew Barrymore quickly?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
I feel like people are over it, but... I will never be over it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
I appreciated that they weren't like you were eating too much. They were like, no, it's a condition you have.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Right. Do you feel like your whole life has led to it?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Okay. Are you ready for the tell me what's wrong?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
My friend smells so bad. Brags about not washing her hair or brushing her teeth and it's embarrassing to bring her out. Her teeth are visibly rotting.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
I cannot. I think it is the most jarring insult to receive. Not insult, just like criticism. Like your breath smells bad. Like your entire self shuts down. I know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
And if she's like no, then be like, you have to leave.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
I always brush my teeth, but sometimes at night I'm just like, fuck it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
My hot landlord left me tequila and pastries. Wants to unpack all my moving boxes and keeps flirting. He's a dilf. Is this delusional or fate?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
That's what everyone does on Instagram. Do they make money?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
They can't make money. There's no way they make money.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Because of how sticky it is? Because I'm a Jewish girl.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Yeah. We should maybe get together this week in New York. I'm around all week. Yeah, I'm around. Wait, should we get a drink? I want to see your place.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
No, it's so cute. Did you just do a tour of it somewhere?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
I have a ton of fun time friends, but none I'm emotionally compatible with. Am I wrong for feeling disconnected from people I party with?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Yeah, I think it's fine to have friends that are just going out friends.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Right, and it's like almost like so much better when you realize like, oh, I like going out with these people and I like spending time staying in with these people. Totally. You can't always like have a 360 friend.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
And that's totally fine. Like, you have different friends for different situations.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
My friend's therapist told her she needs different buckets of guys, and, like, that's what I would describe it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Yeah. Yeah. You need different friends for different things. Yeah. I mean, like, if you hit the lottery, and, like, you, like, you got a 360, and they like staying in, they like going out, all the things, but, like, that's not always the case, and, like, You can have different things for different things.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
And like emotionally compatible, like... Yeah, okay, then maybe... I don't know what they mean by... That feels like dating. Yeah, I don't know what they mean by emotionally compatible.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Well, maybe they're saying like they don't... Their friends that they actually like spending time with don't like to go out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
I don't really know. I have that. You'll find going out friends, they come and they go. You find a new one. Yeah. You know, like you'll get it. Totally. It's like dating. Yeah. Yeah. My best friend of eight years gave the guy I was seeing a special... If you know what I mean, under a blanket. A handjob? Must be.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
I don't know, there's just something where I'm like... Yeah, have you spent New Years in Miami? I have actually. It's like horrible.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Just say it. While I was sitting next to them, I just found out three years later.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Have you ever had a girlfriend that's broken girl code like that?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
And you had already been hooking up with this guy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Alles passiert für einen Grund. Es ist wahr. Ich brauche diese Clown-Community.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Was ist der Punkt, wenn du da hochkommst und sagst, was machst du?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
One time I got, have you ever gotten Devil's Itch? Like, it's when an itch is so bad.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Right. It's like practicing mindfulness in comedy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Like, well, like it depends also how far the ride is.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
I mean, I, if, I mean, if you made out with him, like, do you think he's hot?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Really? Yeah. My dream used to be to hook up with my teacher. It never happened.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
I never really had a teacher. There was one, and I was obsessed with him. Oh my God, still to this day, if I saw him.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Like, truly, truly. Wow. But yeah, I don't think you need to make out with him again for a free ride. Like, I would just call an Uber.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Because if it's like five minutes, what's the point?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
My coworker just told me he's having an affair with another coworker who is married. What do I even do with that info? Stay out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Right. My mom was always like, stay out of people's relationships. None of your business. That's what all my friends say. Tell them to watch The Other Woman, which I prescribed a million times on this show, but I prescribed The Other Woman. But like, stay out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Where? Is it like a private part of it? No, like, I laid out one day and I got a little, tiny little sunburn on my back. And I was like, oh, can't be that serious. Took a shower and I started getting shooting itches. Like, shooting. From the devil. And I was like, what is this? And they were like, you have devil's itch.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Right. Yeah. I thought I met the love of my life at college. We dated, broke up, and have gone no contact. But a year later, I still think about him every single day. How do I cope? Well, I prescribed the movie How to Be Single, which I've never seen in full, but I know that that's what it's about.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Wow. Yeah. Yeah, there's some loves you just never get over.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
And have good friends. And have great friends. Yeah. And I just tried to one-up you with the great comments.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
You've never seen Someone Great? No. I think Gina Rodriguez is in it. Oh. It's amazing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
But she breaks up with the love of her life and finds herself.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Oh, you did? Yeah, when we broke up. I met this guy at a party and he brought me back to his apartment. We hooked up and he paused to play his quote sexy playlist. A couple minutes passed and he says, do you like this song? And I'm like, sure. Then he laughs and tells me it's his. Like, ick, immediately. He keeps hitting me up. Help.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
I don't want to know if I want to do that right now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Last one. Okay. I'm 28 and I'm in love with a married man. He talks to me every day and says if I want kids he might be divorced by then. And if not, he'll ask his wife about it. What the hell should I do? Stay in this or get the fuck out?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Get the fuck out, but I get it, girl. I get it, I get it, but like get out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
No, I think he maybe might, but he was like, he says he'll ask his wife. I don't know if that, I would get out, but like. Get out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
6 Benadryl täglich für eine Woche. Nur, damit ich nicht wach sein musste. Das war die schlimmste Schmerz, die ich je in meinem Leben erlebt habe. Ich würde einfach so liegen.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Am I in my body? I feel like super out of my body.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Right. Thanks. And I also learned that we're going to get a drink this week in New York.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Yes. Well, Chloe, thank you so much for coming on Therapist.
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Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Und ich habe Glee geschaut. Ich saß da und habe Glee geschaut.
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Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Hi Pussies and welcome back to Therapist. Tonight we have on Chloe Fineman. She's a cast member on SNL. She's in the new Hulu film Summer of 69. She's unbelievable. One of the funniest people out there right now. I'm obsessed with her. She's also like one of the best Impressionists ever. So like I had her do. A few of her impressions, which was just amazing. Or I think I just had her do one.
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Session 75: Chloe Fineman
No, I swear, because I kept looking at my back and it was just white. There was no red, nothing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
It was like a ghost writer for like, it was like a ghost sunburn.
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Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Yeah, I know. Oh, sorry, that was such an aggressive laugh.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Well, I... Of an itch. You know, what I did used to send photos of was my ingrown toenails. Oh. So, like, I used to go to doctors for ingrowns instead of the nail salon. Okay, I got that. No, they were like, you should probably go to the nail salon.
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Session 75: Chloe Fineman
But, like, one time I thought I had an STD, so I went to the doctor, and they came back and they said, you don't have an STD, but you should, like, maybe get on anxiety meds.
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Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Keep in mind, never had sex. I was a virgin. And I showed up being like, I'm an STD. And they were like, no, you don't.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Warst du so, als hättest du dir gesagt, fuck, ich weiß, ich habe mich verarscht?
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Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Okay, fantastisch. Also, wann hast du von, was war es, Camp Kitov?
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Session 75: Chloe Fineman
I honestly forget. But it was amazing. She really, really is the best. She's so fucking funny. She's one of my favorite parts about SNL. I love SNL, but she's really and truly one of my favorite parts. Also, I'm back on the road this week. I'm really, really excited about that. I guess when you're watching this... Okay, so it's Wednesday. So I would have done Phoenix... Las Vegas.
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Session 75: Chloe Fineman
No, the only Yiddish word I know is... Ist Mensch?
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Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Okay, so I thought Mensch, that's a story for another time.
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Session 75: Chloe Fineman
I thought it was like a kiss off. And they were like, no, you're a good person.
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Session 75: Chloe Fineman
And then when did you, how did you get involved with SNL?
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Session 75: Chloe Fineman
I know, my mom wouldn't let me when it came out.
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Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Jetzt, dass ich das ganze Ding mache. Du bist ein seriöser Schauspieler.
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Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Every day. When did you find out you were good at, like, okay, wait, sorry, continue.
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Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Ich bin so traurig, dass du so viel Zeit mit uns verbracht hast.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
So I have Vancouver tonight. So right now I'm in Vancouver. So I'm back on the road. I'm really, really excited about that. I really miss tour so much. Being on stage and meeting everyone is just like the best thing in the entire world. And it's coming to an end. We only have a few shows left.
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Session 75: Chloe Fineman
I will say the most fun I've ever had is at an SNL afterparty.
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Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Yeah, like I lost my virginity here once. Obviously once. Once. And then I had sex a second time after the SNL Afterparty. And that was about it.
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Session 75: Chloe Fineman
But the last SNL Afterparty I went to was, I think it was Billie Eilish. And I forget the host. Billie was the performer. I forget who the host was.
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Session 75: Chloe Fineman
Yeah, but you sometimes stay out at those until... Tell me more.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 75: Chloe Fineman
So you wake up Sunday after being out all night, all night.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
Solving your problems with the famous person on the couch. With me, Jake Shane.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
Yeah. Because you get anxiety that if someone's texting you that you're missing a text. So if you know that no one's texting you and you're setting up that control.
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Session 46: Rosé
Yes, just please do not message me. I don't want to have to have the feeling of looking at my phone. It works for you.
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Session 46: Rosé
You are giving such Virgo just now. Really? Like you love to control and make sure everything is in your order. Okay. It's very Virgo.
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Session 46: Rosé
She is one of the hardest working people I've ever met, one of the most talented people I've ever met. And I'm so honored that I was able to share the space with her and to have her come on this show. It was a dream come true. And I'm really, really excited for you guys to see it. So without further ado, Rosé. Hi, pussies, and welcome back to Therapus.
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Session 46: Rosé
So I also, I know like the basic, basic, basic, basicness of it. So I was, you know, I really didn't have anything else to say after that. It was just like, I was like, oh, she's giving Virgo.
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Session 46: Rosé
But I'm always wrong. So that checks out that I was wrong.
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Session 46: Rosé
Well, you do have a rising and a moon and your rising is like what you bring to work. Like you portray to other people. So if it's a Virgo, I'm going to be really impressed with myself. I'm a Scorpio.
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Session 46: Rosé
Yes, yes, yeah. And that's like moon is how I perceive myself. Rising is how others perceive me. Sun, I don't know. I need to do a little more research before I...
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Session 46: Rosé
start talking about this because i'm always wrong but like i'm always like oh she's giving virgo just now okay so do you you want to talk about number one girl yeah i'm excited because you just showed it to me so we you're the first person that i showed like i'm fucking honored so that song is about how you dealt with like online perception
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Session 46: Rosé
Did you, when you would go in the studio, would you like be conscious not to like go on Instagram and go on these like social and like read all these comments? No. You would still read them? Okay.
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Session 46: Rosé
I'm ashamed, but. My screen time, you would be appalled. You would be.
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Session 46: Rosé
Today, I have never been more starstruck in my entire life. We have one of the most special guests I've ever had. Rose.
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Session 46: Rosé
Yeah, it keeps scrolling. And you're like, who responded to that good one? Yeah, yeah.
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Session 46: Rosé
But the worst is when you read something that you've already thought about yourself.
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Session 46: Rosé
And it was fun to write something sad. Yeah. And just disgustingly open. It's like you're shedding, you're shedding it off of you. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean?
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Session 46: Rosé
I'm sorry. I'm like so nervous. I've never, I was pacing around my entire house all day, like so anxious.
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Session 46: Rosé
that's the beauty of songwriting though. And that's what, that's what your fans are. And that's what everyone in the world is going to feel like. And I feel like it's going to be so cathartic for you to like, see what that song means to other people. I just think it's such a cool, such a cool feeling, especially when you write it yourself and you had a hand in writing all of this.
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Session 46: Rosé
And like, I just think, I think all of this anxiety and this built up, It's going to feel like when you put Rosie out December 6th, you're going to feel like the biggest, just now I think that it's going to be received beautifully.
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Session 46: Rosé
Oh, well, with all of that being said, I'm like, that was like the most beautiful therapist intro of all time.
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Session 46: Rosé
i think okay i think i talked too much no no no you shouldn't second guess yourself as much as you do okay i'm gonna stop doing that well you know it's easier said than done but like i'm always anxious that i present anxious and you don't at all you don't present anxious at all and i know that's not how you're feeling all the time but
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Session 46: Rosé
I'm so excited. You know, you are coming off like really, really, you're on fire right now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
If you are ever anxious about that's how you're presenting and that causes you to second-guess yourself, just know that to someone that's never met you before, that's not how it comes off.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
Just wanted to say that. Well, before we get into the tell me what's wrongs, and that's where the pussies ask questions and we give them advice, what are you – are you a therapist about anything today? What brings you in today?
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Session 46: Rosé
Like, are you – That's so awesome. Are you therapist about anything today? Am I pissed off at it? Yes, anything pissing you off?
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Session 46: Rosé
Hi, pussies, and welcome back to Therapus. And what a week we've had, okay? I just finished my Therapus live tour. It was 21 cities. We finished in Los Angeles. It was so fun. Renee came out, Sophia came out, Alexander came out. It was so fun. And I really, really do miss tour. Like I, that was some of the most fun I think I've ever had in my life. I just love being on stage.
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Session 46: Rosé
Yes, you are. You are. I mean, Apaté is number eight in the country as of right now. As of right now. Crazy. It's crazy. It's one of the number one songs in the world. And by the time this comes out, your next single, Number One Girl, will... Yes, will be out, right?
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Session 46: Rosé
I'm so happy it's nothing. And then you know what you're going to do after the rehearsal? Relax.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
So you said you were having a little playlist on on the way here. What are you listening to right now?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
She has this song called Feel Something. How does it go? I might know. Wanna feel something. I don't feel nothing.
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Session 46: Rosé
Yes, yes. And you're not just a performer. You're a songwriter as well.
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Session 46: Rosé
That song? has edged its way into my brain it is that pre-chorus is one of the most addicting pre-choruses i have heard that i'm dead ass serious this decade it's like pop perfection how was working with bruno because you guys are like best friends at this point besties because no because he posted the most outrageous fuck like he's crazy my jaw i was like wait what the hell is happening like
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Session 46: Rosé
You're like, no, Bruno just posted the most annoying fucking captain I've ever seen.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
Has it been like cathartic for you to like write how you feel?
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Session 46: Rosé
And is that, like, the first time you, like, had to, like, do, like, in slow motion?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
Because you had to, because it hurt? Like, your back hurt?
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Session 46: Rosé
Yeah. Because you have to, like, make sure. Sorry, I just cut you off.
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Session 46: Rosé
I'm the worst. We're like apologizing. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. We're both constantly apologizing. Are we the same people? I think we are. Like you walked in, you were telling me about your anxieties. I was like, oh, this will be great.
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Session 46: Rosé
Yeah, no, literally. Literally. When you meet someone else with like your same anxiety, like, oh, you're like, oh, we're good. Yeah, we're good. Like sister.
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Session 46: Rosé
I think crazy people don't. When people tell me that they are not anxious, I'm like, do you think? Do you know what I mean? I'm like, do you have time to think? Yeah. Do you even think? Have you ever seen the movie Inside Out 2? Oh, yeah. Okay. That helped me understand my anxiety so much more. Oh, yeah. Because it's like- Oh, my God.
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Session 46: Rosé
It has. It has. It has. It has. Anxiety has taken over my control room for 25 years. Oh, no. She's sitting there and she's, like, comfortable. She's had bitch in charge up there. But, like, you know, like, she is sitting there and she's, like, running the show. But, like, it checks out. It's like, oh, like, anxiety, like, does just want to help.
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Session 46: Rosé
Good intentions. Good intentions. And I'm like, yeah, like, we're good. Good intentions. Should we get into the tell me what's wrongs? Okay, yes. Let's do it. I think you're going to have fun with them. Yes. Okay. Now these, I've literally been like.
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Session 46: Rosé
I know. So we can do this. Oh, hold on. You don't understand. I got a haircut last night. Really? Yes. I like had my entire. Yes, I cleaned my entire house. I was like. I was like, no, like. Rosé's coming over like. I'm walking. Yes, it was for you. Are you kidding? Other than that, I'm like throwing shit. I'm like, someone will pick it up. And my roommates are like, I'm going to kill you.
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Session 46: Rosé
I know my boyfriend of four years is about to propose. And I've given him no reason to think I'd say no. But I feel like maybe I should say no. He's just kind of been giving me the ick for the past five months. Is that normal?
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Session 46: Rosé
I think it's normal too. I feel like that's pre-engagement jitters or maybe... Oh, well, I've never been engaged. Neither have I. Neither have I. I've also never had a boyfriend. So, like, I'm the worst. But, like, I... If that was me, I don't know. Because the difficult thing about anxiety is sometimes you're like, is this real? Are these emotions that I'm feeling real?
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Session 46: Rosé
And should I act on them or are they just anxiety? But to me... It sounds like she doesn't want to be engaged to him.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
You give amazing advice. I'm like kind of freaking out. I'm literally like break up with him.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
No, he just, he was left speechless. That was like the best. Did anyone out there hear that advice? That was, like, incredible advice.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
No, that was, like, wise and, like, thoughtful. I'm like, he's giving you the ick. Dump him. Oh, my God. I have no notes and nothing else to say because my advice is so bad. But, yeah, like, maybe the ick. I don't know. I feel like people, like, she's hiding a lot.
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Session 46: Rosé
I want to get married so bad. Really? Kind of. Wow. I just want a boyfriend. Like, I want a boyfriend.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
I don't know. Like, I've been searching for one my whole life, and I'm like, I just want.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
Yeah. I'm getting what you're picking up. Let's go on the hunt. Let's go on the hunt. I fear I have a case of the terrible 20s. Some of my friends are getting married. I'm not. Some have kids.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
Some have houses. And I feel like I'm nowhere near ready for any of that. I often get super down because of it. I'm hoping 30s are the new 20s. They are. Ugh.
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Session 46: Rosé
I'm being like a boring grandma again. Why do you think this is boring? This is like, I'm like actually taking this in. There is no status quo for happiness. There shouldn't be at least. Like what if you're, If you are not happy because you're basing your happiness in relation to other people around you, you're never going to be happy.
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Session 46: Rosé
Which is hard for me to learn because I compare myself to everyone, everything, all the time. But it really is true. Side note, do you ever, like, when you touch this, do you ever like to tap the top really softly? And it's a little airy and it feels like, ooh. Ooh, I really, really like this.
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Session 46: Rosé
You need to be right here. Wait, I'm sorry. My ADHD brain is like moving from thing to thing to thing. But I've been so desperate to ask you. What do you watch? Do you watch TV?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
I think. What should I watch? Oh, my God, I have suggestions. What type of stuff do you like? Like, what's your vibe? Thriller? Comedy? Heartfelt?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
I'm so excited. Squid Game was. I saw the billboard. My addiction. Yeah. My addiction.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
And, like, I became really down bad for Squid Game. And now I'm really excited for season two.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
Do you know that's like one of the most watched Netflix shows of all time?
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Session 46: Rosé
It is the most watched. It is the most watched? Really? Did you watch Squid Game?
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Session 46: Rosé
That was me. And I wasn't, I'm always very like hesitant of like when everyone's like, everyone loves a show. I'm always like.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
And then I'm like, damn. Like there's this show called Tell Me Lies.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
I think you would like it. Really? Okay. I think you would like it. It's about a very toxic relationship in college, but it's very soapy. It's very soap opera-y and it's very like, it's just, it's, it's great. It's very dramatic. There's twists and turns and, The main guy is so hot. Okay. Very important. Very hot. And I think you would really, really, really like it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
Yeah. And then you don't like like you don't like scary stuff.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
You don't like high stress things, do you? Not right now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
Because my favorite show I just started watching was the show called Industry. But that's like the highest of stress. So maybe none of that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
I mean, I think that's so incredible because I feel like the best albums are ones where you can like really hear someone's like authentic feelings in it. And if you have those feelings, like those anxieties about like throwing up all your feelings into a song, it means it's real and it means it's you. And it's really going to resonate with people.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
But... Maybe sometime when I'm... Maybe sometime when you're like, I need excitement. I need stress. Yeah, I need excitement. I need excitement back in my life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
There's this one girl that copies my every move from the same nails, TikTok videos, pictures, anything you can think of. The worst part is we have the same name. What do I do?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
Yeah, like, enjoy it. I think imitation is the highest form of flattery, which is frustrating sometimes. Yeah. But people also don't copy me, so, like... But it also depends.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
You're like, oh, they're copying you? Just befriend them.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
I'm having a lot of fun with you. Have you ever done a podcast before?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
Jake, it's been way too long and I still can't get over one of my best friends. I know she doesn't feel the same, but I overthink moments that have happened, which is what makes me think of what could have been. So they had like a friendship fallout.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
And it feels like if she wanted it back, she could get it back. But she knows that it's not good for her.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
And I've had... I've had friendship breakups and in the moment they feel so, it's the closest thing I've ever had to a real breakup. And in the moment they feel so earth shattering. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
But then I feel like when you think of yourself right now and you, and you list like four or five things that you're grateful for right now, they would not be here if you did not let that person go is how I try to view it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
Right. Maybe she's probably feeling that. She's feeling like it's a failure. Like, I invested all this time in this relationship and now it's done. Yeah, but not. But sometimes relationships are meant to be there to teach you something.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
You know what though? Sometimes the people that give the best advice can't take their own advice. So that's why people say, do as I say, not as I do.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
Which is a great sign. I mean, she had a great time in the therapist's office.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
Are you kidding? No. Thank you for being here. Oh, my God. Everybody, Rosé's new album, Rosé, comes out December 6th, and her new single, Number One Girl, is out now, as well as her new single, Apaté, with Bruno Mars.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
Rosé, thank you for being here. Thank you so much. I love you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
Oh, like you hyper fixate. Yeah. I do the same exact thing. Yes. I can't like anything normally. Like that's what I always say. Like I always like something or I always, I'm obsessed about something.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
You're absolutely supposed to overshare. It's what makes a good songwriter.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
I love meeting everyone. And I loved making people laugh in person. Like there was, oh my God, it was like the best feeling in the entire world. I also released my first comedy album, Puss in Poems, which you guys have shown me so much love for and I'm so grateful and I'm so happy you guys are loving it because I love it literally so much.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
I used to do like, like, I used to go like that. Oh my God. Do you know what I mean? It's weird. It's like, it's just, you know, when you're like, oh, I've never had an original experience. That's like how I feel every time I talk about it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
I used to feel like, or I still do, I feel like the veins in, like, my hand. I'll, like, feel for a pulse. Oh, okay. You know what I mean? But I, like, I tense up and I walk around. I pace all over the house. I pace, pace, pace, pace, pace, pace, pace.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
I actually love it so much that I went to the studio today and recorded my Christmas song, which I should be putting out shortly. I'm really proud of it and I'm really excited. But yeah, tonight we have one of the most special guests I've ever had.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
I actually do that, but I do it so much more impolitely. I do it so, I'll be at dinner. I get really overstimulated easily. I always say I'm the worst dinner guest. I'll just stand up and I'll say, okay, I have to go. And I do a lap around the block. And I come back and I sit down and I do it about four times a meal.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
He'll be back. Because I just get, my brain just gets so muddled. Like, I get so, I get overstimulated really easily.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
Have you, like, thought, like, I wonder what is making me so, do you think it's anxious?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
What was the question? I was so entranced by what you were saying because I was going to say, don't you feel like, and then even when you turn it off, don't you get anxious about turning it off? You're like, I kind of want to turn it back on.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
And it sounds irrational to others, but to you, it's like, it's very valid.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
i'm like i was pinching myself i was like i've never felt this silent in my brain i feel like it's like the first time in my life did it feel good it felt crazy it feels crazy it was crazy it feels crazy it feels i hate it i hate it i need it i mean i don't work one percent of how much i know you work but like when i have like an off when i like um when things get slow
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
Tonight, we have one of the most special guests I've ever had, Rosé. Pop, singer, songwriter, superstar. Her new single, Number One Girl, is out everywhere now, as well as the number one smash hit, Apaté, with Bruno Mars. Her debut album, Rosie, is out December 6th everywhere. She is so, so incredible. I...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
Are we supposed to be talking about this? Yes. One thing about me I know we just met is I am the most anxious motherfucker in the world. And what I really loved about what you said was when you said that you weren't anxious because you knew that you were going to work the day after. Not everyone's way of making themselves feel better is anxious.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
It's having work. But if it works for you, it works for you. And, like, that actually just helped me because I'm like, oh, I actually love that. Like, if I'm ever feeling that way, like, you know, I could take, like, an hour or two a day. Like, you can take. I think you have more time, hopefully, than you think.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 46: Rosé
And if it's going to make your work better, you can tell your team, like, I need an hour. Friend, FaceTime, chill, remove myself, no text.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
hi pussies and welcome back to therapist tonight well i guess this comes out wednesday so wednesday i'll be in north carolina but tonight i'm in athens georgia um we went out last night we were in orlando i had the biggest show i've ever played and alex came out it was really fun then we went to
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Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Would you rank... Who on the current Beverly Hills Housewives who you'd want to film with the most to the least?
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Session 63: Lisa Rinna
So you don't know what's going on in Beverly Hills right now?
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Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Yeah. I thought that it was Kyle, Mauricio, PK, and Dorit were all very close. They were. Right. And then obviously everything blew up.
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Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Okay, because it's interesting you say that. They were very close. Because on the show, it seems that Dorit feels as though they were very close. They were. And Kyle feels as though it was a co-worker close.
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Session 63: Lisa Rinna
For sure. You and Erica are like this, though. Wow.
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Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Well, cheers. If you could fix one franchise, how would you fix it? And which franchise would it be?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I know you do. That's why I was like, I want to get there. I want to go there.
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Session 63: Lisa Rinna
OK, so I don't watch New York. Do any of you watch New York?
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Session 63: Lisa Rinna
There was a situation, if I remember correctly, I didn't watch, but I watch Watch What Happens Live, so I remember them talking about it. And there was a situation where they played a prank on, Do you remember this? They played some... No, no, no. There was a pregnancy prank of sorts. Oh. And they like made up a storyline and like the two were in it together and like... That doesn't work.
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Session 63: Lisa Rinna
It felt a trick and they admitted it to the viewers and the viewers felt tricked.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
How have you been the last time I saw you? Well, the last time I saw you was at Alo, but we did the Walmart ad together. We sure did. And we had a blast.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I think also, though. Every housewife has a brand now. And like, that's the thing. Exactly. Every housewife has a brand. Exactly. And they want to protect it at all costs.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
It is a conundrum. I love that word, conundrum. I feel like you always held people accountable on that show, though. And I think that's why people loved you so much.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Right. I think that was always very prevalent in who you are and who you were on the show.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Yes. And you've always been vocal about that. And do you think that's why the Kathy situation pissed you off so much?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
The trailer was lovely. I was like, if this is the life, sign me up.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Right. And did that like affect. I mean on the show you and Kyle had issues with it. But is Kyle like ultimately grateful for how you handled it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
And I don't think anybody wants to. Do you think that like the show, I mean, could you see people move past things in like a really beautiful way sometimes?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Do you think it taught you anything about having to deal with conflict and how to handle conflict and-
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
You look amazing. Your outfit is so chic. You always look chic. Thank you. Well, you've been on the fashion scene lately. I sure have. Have I had fun? What's it like going?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I did. These are the best questions I've ever asked anyone. Good job. Thank you. Are you really? I mean, that's well.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I don't care anymore. Actually, I think your honesty is super refreshing. And I think as someone, you were on the show for eight years, there was so much you could say and couldn't say or had to say or didn't say. And now with your new podcast, you can kind of say it all.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
No, I mean, getting to know you outside of it, it's completely, it's different.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I mean, but it wouldn't be, it wouldn't be you if it didn't.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I mean, but I found what you said about the edit super interesting. Is there ever a time where you're like, you were watching something and not to go back to housewives, but when you were watching something and you were like, that's not what I said.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Really? That happened one time. And you were like, Hmm.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
And did you call someone and be like, by the way, this wasn't in this?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Were you anticipating, like, because I feel like, People who don't know Bravo and don't know the culture behind Bravo understand just how humongous it is. Were you anticipating like when you signed up, like you didn't understand that feedback you were going to get.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
What's it like going to all those shows? I mean, were you able to go to all those shows when you were on Housewives, or do you have more time to do that now?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
But were you, did you ever find it hard to deal with like feedback from people? Yes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
And was Harry and your daughters like super supportive of it all?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
It was just like, I know we really, really got, we really, I was so excited to meet you. I mean, I know your daughters and I know, I know you from my daughters.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I love it. It is special. And I'm excited for people to see it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
They, they will. And isn't it beautiful that you are now in control of your own narrative, as you were saying before, like you're regardless of what people say, you're on that mic and you have total control.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Yeah, I've had fun. I get bad anxiety, so that's why I tip my hat off to you. I really tip my hat off to you and all the housewives. And I think that's why it's so good for me to watch housewives. And I'm not – I know people like straight men will probably laugh at me for saying this, but housewives is really therapeutic. Is it? You're watching – I'm serious, you guys.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
You're watching these women, you and everyone – let it rip really and say whatever and have the worst thing said about them and continue and you still show up. I never thought of it like that. And you still show up. Yeah, you do. You have to. Yeah, it's your job.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Every day. And oh my God, I, you know, I mean, that's the, I remember watching that season and I remember thinking, holy shit. Yeah. Like I can't even imagine doing this on camera. And she was there every episode, every trip, every dinner. Just so honest.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
It is really remarkable. And I think it's super admirable that she just dealt with it all on the show.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Do you feel like some cast members were unfair to her during that time?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Well, you were the only one that stood by her through thick and thin. Yeah. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
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Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
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Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
So when I go on Booking.com, being able to put in all those requirements and then find the hotels that match it exactly is awesome.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
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Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
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Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I have been using their sheets forever. I really realized how incredible Cozy Earth was when I used them on my first round of tour in the fall because I used their sheets on my tour bus. And I was so anxious about sleeping on the bus. But those sheets...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
We're so – like, you know I hate being hot, and they cooled me down and were so soft and just, like, made the bed feel exactly like my bed at home, which is exactly what you want. And so I just really fell in love with the brand as a whole. And then after I fell in love with the brand as a whole, I discovered that not only do they have bedding and sheets, they have clothes as well.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Cozy Earth became my new go-to for Everyday Basic. They're so soft, and they look like elevated loungewear, essentially. And –
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
my favorite part about cozy earth is and like just like loungewear in general is stuff that you can wear out and it can serve for different parts of the day so i could wear it out during the day i could wear it out at night and no one would really think anything of it because it's like elevated loungewear to say that again but it is true and it's really really comfortable and it's just as cooling as the sheets are so it keeps me cool in my clothes which i never thought was possible
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I seriously cannot describe to you how soft it is. Like, I am telling you guys, you will never, ever, ever want to take it off. It is the most comfortable loungewear ever. Like, I've completely fallen in love, and I've worn it so much on tour. When I wake up and I'm just walking around, I sometimes even fall asleep in it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I used to say this about, like, falling asleep on the couch, but it's kind of like an adult sleepover, and that's kind of what falling asleep in, like, your sweats and... a hoodie feels like to me. Oh my God. And this is the biggest discount we've ever given on Therapus.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Cozy Earth hooked it up with 40% off your purchase at cozyearth.com slash Jake or use code Jake and you will get 40% off your purchase, which is incredible. Thank you again, Cozy Earth, for sponsoring tonight's episode. Love you guys. How did you come up with the idea for the podcast? Where was the podcast born from? Like where...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
And it's just been this amazing journey ever since then.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
What is different to you about speaking about stuff on a podcast for speaking about stuff on a TV show?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
You absolutely, you were born with a mic in your hand.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I know. Was there ever a moment where you were like, oh, just because like this is my worst nightmare, like having you're saying shit and then you're like, I'm mic'd up.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
And is it rewarding to see Amelia walk in all those shows?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I want to go home. I want to go home to my kids. Yeah. You know what I've been desperate to try? Harry's Pasta Sauce. Yes. I know. I should have asked you to bring me it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
If I get sent Harry's pasta sauce, like I am making that my entire personality. You're getting it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Oh. Will you send me a photo? I will. Because my... I will. If you know me, sausage pasta is my favorite pasta. No. Swear to God. You can ask anybody.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Yes, yes. And I love, like, an orchetti with sausage and spinach and, like, an olive oil sometimes. Oh, me too. That's why you would love this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Where did Lisa Rinna- You're so good at this, first of all. Really? You're really good at this. You think so? Yes. I wouldn't say it. You're so good at this. I'm very on right now with you. Okay, go.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I just feel comfortable with you. I'm so glad. I feel very comfortable with you. Good. I feel very comfortable asking you questions. Good. And I'm not scared.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
But I was scared. Oh, you were? And then once I was like, can we get messy? And you were like, fuck yeah. I was like, let's go for it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Where did Lisa Rinna start? When did you start acting? When did you know you wanted to act? When did you... get into your career?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Right. Do you remember like the first time you got something and you were like, this is my break. This is it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Yes, they were there for my Los Angeles show and I was so nervous. Right?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
palm tree club after we hung out with everyone it was so it was so fun I'm a little hungover if you can't tell tonight is my fourth show in a row um so I'm a little exhausted but I'm really excited for tonight because Heather McMahon is the guest and I haven't seen her in a really actually the last time I saw her I think I was on a date. So we have a lot of catching up to do.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
They always do it with love. Okay, good. They always do it with love.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Do you have a moment over those past 35 years where you're like, this is like one of the, like the best moments of my life?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Oh my God. Truly. That sounds incredible. It was incredible. Would you do it again? Yeah. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Okay. Now I have to ask you cause you're here. Yes. What, and we just talked about happy stuff. What are you therapist about?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I'm very pissed about very small things like I have to get my eyebrows waxed. Pisses you off? And I really don't want to go get my eyebrows waxed.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
You'd be surprised. Really? You would be surprised. Oh my God.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
No, I like to walk. Okay, all right. I like to walk. I like to take myself there.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
And what else am I pissed about? Louise, am I pissed about anything as of late that you remember?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I... Get very agitated with how I deliver my feelings. So like if I'm very angry about something and rightfully so, I'll deliver it in a way that no one will hear me because the delivery is so poor. What? Yes. So that is what I'm really angry with myself.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Like lack of self-control. Like what would you call that? What would you call that?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
It's like demeanor. I don't know. It's just like I'll deliver. I'll have such a good point and it'll just get lost in like how I deliver the news.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I think I'm afraid that I won't be heard if I'm not yelling. Yes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Yes. Oh, interesting. I think maybe it's just like, I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I'm very self-aware. That's so interesting. I'm very self-aware, which makes it difficult sometimes. Is that something you did in your childhood? Yeah, I think my parents and I, we just communicated. It was just not like an Italian family, but we're very Jewish and yelling and stuff. But nobody's listening. No one's listening. We're all just yelling. It's out of love, but that's just what I know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Yeah, of course. Do you watch The Bear? Yes. Do you remember the episode of the bear where they're all cooking dinner? In the kitchen. In the kitchen. Most brilliant scene. Yeah, it's the Christmas dinner. Yes, it's one of the most brilliant scenes. And they're all screaming, screaming, screaming, screaming, screaming. And it's all out of love, but no one's listening to each other.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
It was brilliant. Yeah. I get it. What else are you watching right now?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I'm not going to say anything. I will say Severance. I always remember I need to stick with it for a moment.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
And well, what can I ask? Like, what was it like when Kyle and Dorit were fighting? Like, do you find yourself stuck in the middle of that or like?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
But I've heard the latest season's like otherworldly.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Okay. It's fucking brilliant. I know people really love it. Alice's family loves it more than anything. That's like their favorite show.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Do you, are you watching, there's this new show on Hulu called Paradise. Yeah. Apparently it's very good.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Apple cider vinegar. I've heard it's amazing. I've heard it's amazing. Oh my God. What is it? Can you explain to me what it is? This girl lies about having cancer, right?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Yeah, I know. I'm excited to watch it. Have you seen any of the Oscar noms this year?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Just the way. Oh. Knowing. He just. Sean Baker. The way he portrays. Every class and every. And he humanizes everyone. And it's just. Mikey Madison was just like, that was a performance for the ages. Brilliant. Brilliant. Brilliant. It was like career turning.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I still haven't seen Conclave and I really want to see Conclave. Conclave's good. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I know. It's so good. What is The Brutalist about again?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
But isn't there some controversy with the AI of it all?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
It's true. Getting to know you in real life, I see that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Right. Do you think there's like a lot more controversy today in the digital age than there was? Yes, of course. Yeah. Of course.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I mean, it's harder for news to pass in like a natural news cycle now because people are stuck on things.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Because you see something, and it's so believable, and it seems so true, and then...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
If I see something and I'm like actually interested in it, I'll like Google it and like see it. My mom's a journalist, so I know how to spot it. Oh, interesting. Because she always taught me about fake news from very, very, very young age. She's like always taught me about it, always spoken about it. I've just learned always to fact check and source. So that's one thing I'm very good about.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I can catch it very quickly. I'm very proud of myself in that sense. But she's also, she's very skeptical. And so I have my skepticism from her. But I know a lot of people who will send me something and I'm like, that's not real. That's fake. It's all, that's a lie. What you're sending me is a lie. That's what's scary. And that's scary. That's scary. Should we get into the tell me what's wrongs?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Yeah. Let's do it. Oh my God. Okay. This first one is Housewives related. Okay. What's your favorite moment from the real Housewives of Beverly Hills? I'm rewatching from the beginning and it's TXOXO.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
That was when you guys were all mimicking each other too, right? Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Yeah. That was such a. So funny. Such like a peaceful moment in Housewives history.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I think my favorite moment. Yes, tell me. Aside from Amsterdam, which is just. I think, and I'm sorry, it's the bravo, bravo, fucking bravo of, like, just that whole storyline. The breaking of the fourth wall and, like, everything was just so, like, you know what I mean? Like, just that moment where she goes, bravo, bravo, fucking bravo, and they kept it in.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
And then everyone at the dinner table pauses and is like, you can't do that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I know. Oh my God. When you're not a part of it, it's like, oh my God.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Yeah. And the biker comes. And she goes. There's so many good moments. There's just too many. Also, when Brandy slaps Lisa. What?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Do you think it's odd to have dated multiple people with the same name as your brother and sister? I just realized that my last three boyfriends all have the same name as my brother. They don't look... That is weird. They don't look like him, but is it weird even just a little bit?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I was talking to this guy and he Venmo'd me to get a plan B. I already had one at home, so I used his money to get my nails done and he found out. Needless to say, he didn't talk to me again and thinks I'm insane. I know I'm in the wrong, but please tell me it's not that big of a deal. I'm just a girl. I actually don't think you're in the wrong at all.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I don't think they used protection and she needed to take a plan B. She's the one going through that, not him. So she should get her nails done with the money that he gave her.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
If he is upset that he gave you money for your nails, he doesn't have enough money to sustain this relationship. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, I'll go with that. That's my thoughts on that. Okay, Jake. One of my best friends just told me that she has a crush on me and I feel very awkward now. I still love her as a friend, though. That's never happened to me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
No, I know. I don't know how you recover from that. I don't.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
No, I think you're right. I think it changes everything.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I mean, but on the bright side, wouldn't you rather know now rather than later?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Where should my roommates and I go on our spring break trip? What will get us the most fucked up but also be the cheapest?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Somewhere in Florida, Fort Lauderdale would be cool. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I would watch Spring Breakers, the 824 movie. Oh, Jesus. With Selena Gomez and Ashley Benson.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
It's a great film. Harmony Corrine directed that, right? Great movie. Wow, look at me. Look at you. Wow. But they get really fucked up on not a lot of money. Jesus. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
And like, thank God you have a wonderful fiance, I hope, that you have to lean on for support.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
It's tough. And I also think Hank should know that he can do it however he pleases. However, if it's over a text and that's right for you, send it in a text. If you want to call them, call them. You don't owe them an in-person meeting about this because if they're making you feel uncomfortable, you need to protect your peace.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
So like if you want to send them a text, an email, a letter, a phone call, however you want to do it, you do it however you need to do it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
And I think that's my advice on it. Protect your peace. They're in the wrong, not you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Yeah. My boyfriend has been texting my brother about moving in with him, but I want to move in with my boyfriend. How do I bring that up without making two of my relationships weird?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Why would your boyfriend want to live with your brother? I mean, you should be grateful that they get along.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Someone is making up a rumor about me. They are saying I am pregnant with my math teacher's baby. What should I do? I don't want everyone to find out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
The rumor is not true. So then what's the problem? You're not pregnant.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I agree. I describe the song A World Alone by Lorde because she says, people are talking. Let them talk.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
It's true. And that's how, you know, do you listen to Lorde ever?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
So the beginning of that album, Pure Heroine, starts out with the song, I think it starts out with Tennis Court, and the opening line is, don't you think it's boring how people talk? And then she ends the entire album with, people are talking, let them talk. Isn't that cool? Genius. Genius, Lorde. I love Lorde. Who are you listening to right now? Kendrick Lamar. I love Kendrick. Me too.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I need to see it. Life changing. Do they do that walkout every show? Don't they have that walkout at the beginning where they film the guy walking through the streets?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Wait, I think I have seen that movie. I think I saw it in film class. So it's based on that. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Okay, I'm excited. I'm convinced my boyfriend doesn't know how to read. He can't sound out words he doesn't know. He is an engineer, so intelligence isn't really the issue. But we'll, like, be reading a text or a bill or something, and he'll just stop and ask me what that says, trying to play it off as a joke. Do I ask?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Right. Did you ever like find like, cause I, what I always wonder about is like, I'm like, I feel like I'd be such a good reality star, but I would be so anxious about what I would say in the confessionals. Like, do you guys have this kind of code of like, it's in the confessional, like we can't really hold that against each other?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Do you know the bit about Lea Michele not being able to read? No. No. You've never heard of this? No. Oh, Lisa.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
She has to be able to read. It's this gay Twitter thing, and they've come up with this notion that Lea Michele cannot read. And they've collected evidence as based. What is the evidence, Manny? There's tons. I don't know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
But it almost feels out of love at this point to Lea Michele.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
No, it's one of the more fascinating gay theories I've seen on Twitter.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Are you familiar with gay lingo on Twitter right now?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Okay, so, like... Oh, shit. There's, like, if someone's paying tribute to someone, like, they can be like, oh, she reheated her nachos. So, like... That's actually funny. So, like, Lady Gaga just put out abracadabra. So they would tweet, ooh, Gaga just reheated her own nachos. I get it. I get it. I get it. Wow. Or, like, you know what I mean?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
And then there's also, like, there's just, I don't even know. I like it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
But people are trying to get tired of the nachos. I saw someone tweet, like, we need to mute nachos on Twitter.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Yeah. I think Diane Warwick responded. Someone tweeted, Diane Warwick, do you know about the nachos? And she responded, what?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I fell in love with a guy that made it clear he wanted only friends with benefits. He lives in another state and we talk all the time. He sends so many mixed signals. One minute he wants to be with me and the next we're just friends. Should I walk away now or get with him and hope something stems from that?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Yeah, I would watch the movie Friends with Benefit or No Strings Attached, which came out at the same exact time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Oh. I don't. They came out at the same time. It was like the same movie just came out at the same time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I struggle to find a balance when going out. I can never be chill. I always black out and don't remember anything. What should I do?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I had a nightmare about blacking out the other day. Yeah, no. Give me a sign. No, no, no, no.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
And that is terrifying to me. Do you have like a blackout that you think about daily sometimes? I know you do. One time in freshman year of college, my friend blacked out and, like, ran across, like, these train tracks.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
You think Manny has ever blacked out? Manny is so responsible.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
No, no, no. Don't do it anymore. No more. Okay. All right. Lisa, what did we learn today?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Maybe show, not maybe, show more grace to those that you see on reality television because you're only seeing 20 or 30% of who they really are.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Right. Of course not. How could you? How could you? Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Lisa, I love you. And cheers to that. I love you. I love you. I love you. Do you want to say bye to the pussies? Bye, pussies. Bye, pussies. Own it, baby. And make sure, what day is your podcast out? Fridays. Every Friday? Every Friday. Let's not talk about the husband with Lisa Rinna and Harry Hamlin. Love you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Right. Oh my God. Do you remember like, well, Amsterdam was your first season, right?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I haven't seen the episode in a few years, but that plane ride was filmed, if I remember correctly. I don't remember if it was.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
And I'm really, really excited to see her. And this is her home state. So I'm really, really, really excited that she's coming out for this show. Tonight on Therapist, we have Lisa Rinna, who I absolutely adore. We worked together on the Walmart campaign. And as you guys know, I'm the biggest Housewives fan ever.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I mean, like Kyle's, how could you do this? Running out of the room. Beast. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
How dare you? Oh, do you still talk to Eileen? I love Eileen. She was everything. She was short-lived on that show. Three years. Yeah, that's short for a housewife.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
That, I mean, those were the golden years of Beverly Hills. They were the golden years. I feel like those were the golden years for most housewives shows. Yeah. I think New York was in its prime at that point with, I think Bethany, I think Tinsley was on during that time if I remember correct. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Do you feel like though you guys set the precedent for that? Because I always say housewives, how I view it now is kind of like a game, right? So like they all come in with their information on the other housewives to bring it in front of the camera.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
It's like when Lisa Vanderpump put the tabloid in Brandy's suitcase. You know what I mean? Yes, I know what you mean. Like, and it's like, that's the game. Yes, I do. And she's like, and that, I feel like you guys kind of created that. But do you think maybe producers had anything to do with that? I think Lisa was a producer in her own right.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
So being able to have her on Ask Her, whatever I wanted to ask her, was like the greatest thing ever. And I'm really, really excited for you guys to see the episodes. As always, go to passthatpuss.com and click live with Jake Shane to see if I'm coming to a city near you. Or click tell me what's wrong to tell me what's wrong and leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I mean, am I wrong? And that's why, I mean, when goodbye, Kyle, it was like. Oh my God, that was a great moment.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
It was all great. Have you spoken or seen Lisa Vanderpump since then?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I'm just confused why she – it was like the minute she got any pushback from anyone because she like really played Monopoly with that show for the longest time. And the second she got pushback, she left. And there was no speaking after that, right? And it was just a clean cut.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
And – what were when you were watching that all go down was kyle like as affected in as it seemed yes that was heartbreaking it was yeah i mean they were close right they were close whatever that is on you know so yeah i mean what you see is really what you get my god what a show yeah Do you have any like... Yes, Jake. Do you have any like happy memories from the show? Oh, a ton.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
What happens when everyone's getting along? How do they?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
It's true. Really? Like, what do they do? Are they like, come on, bring it up. Like, talk about some shit.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Enjoy tonight's episode. Love you, pussies. Hi, pussies. Welcome back to Therapuss. Today's guest needs no introduction, but she did just launch a podcast called Let's Not Talk About the Husband. The one, the only, Lisa Rinna. Yay!
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
I mean, evidently in the show. But do you remember, aside from Amsterdam, the most worked up you've ever been on that show where you're like, oh, like, I'm mad that I just got that worked up?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
And is it annoying for you guys when a housewife would come on and not want to talk about certain things going on? Yes. Like, is that frustrating? Of course. That's kind of what happened with Denise, no? She didn't want to talk about what was going on.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
But then it's different, right, when the legal issues play out on the show, right? Then you would say that's different.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Is there a thing that you can think of where you're like, how did this happen?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 63: Lisa Rinna
Do you watch Salt Lake? I loved Salt Lake. I love Salt Lake.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
I drove around a parking lot. I'm just like, but honestly, I just went skiing for the first time. I thought I could never do that and I could do it. Okay, that's hard. But I found myself getting distracted and falling. Oh, okay. So like if I find myself getting distracted and crashing, it's a little different.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Right here. I know, but like I get scared about like, I don't know, I feel like I would need like a mini clown car.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
So before this podcast, we were going to do like people teaching me how to drive. So like it would have been us right now, but you would have been teaching me how to drive instead. Wow. And we shot one episode of it. And I watched it back, and I was like, this is literally just carpool karaoke.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Were y'all singing, or were you screaming? I was singing. Okay, that's good. And I was like, this is taken. I see. I must do something different.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Exactly. You were too distracted. See, that's why. The thing is, they would tell me one thing, how to drive, and then it would just be silence. And we'd be like, so what should we talk about? L. Oh, L. That literally sounds like driver's ed. They would be like, turn left. And I'd be like, okay. It was like my friends in the car. And then Julia, my friend, was like, so.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
And we set up this whole shoot day. Do you remember this? That's hilarious.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Like, we would play the music. Oh. And we would just start singing. And then at the end, it was like. It was so awkward. Yeah, we had nothing to talk about. We were like, should we answer questions from who? A ghost? Like, we have no questions to answer.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Like, I had something last week. And, like, the thing about me is, like, I go all fucking in. I'm like, this is my life. This is what is going to be my life for the next year. Right. And I had this thing, and I was like, this is my life. I literally woke up the next day, and I was like, cancel the whole thing. We can't do this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Really? Like sometimes in the moment, you're like, this is bad.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
It's so humbling. You just have to go back to the drawing board. You pivot. You pivot. Just like Disney taught you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
But is there anything, and it just like, I just, I'm feeling it today. Is there anything you're therapist about? Therapist about? Explain what that means. Like angry. Is there anything you're pissed about?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Like, let me, like, what am I angry about today? I'm angry about, I hate how I get bloated after a workout. It just feels counteractive. Like, that's what I'm actually angry about. Like, immediately after? Immediately. Because I'm fucking starving, shaking hungry. Like, I was up at 4 a.m. today because I'm so fucking jet lagged. And then I worked out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
And then by the end of it, I was, like, shriveled hungry. And then I ate. And I was, like, I feel worse than I felt before the workout.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
No, there's no way Beyonce wouldn't have been late to the Grammys if that's the case. Because she would have access.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Where's this conspiracy from? TikTok. Can someone explain this conspiracy to me?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
There's an underground Starbucks, too. Oh, come on. Yes. What did the TikTok say?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
From where? Silver Lake Ramen. I love Silver Lake Ramen.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
They're making life easier over there. Okay. This just, I don't buy it. You don't believe it could be possible? Because then why are they shutting down the roads when the president comes into town?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Everything gets shut down. We can't walk into anything. Everything gets shut down.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Wow. OK, so what did you learn from the last one that you put into this album?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Oh, I love it. Okay, so where was this album born? How long has it been in fruition for?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Oh, that's incredible. You sound so excited about this album.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
I feel like people I mean, I know people are so fucking excited for it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Do you have a favorite song on the album or song you're most excited for people to hear?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Yes, but Silver Lake has crispy rice, right? Don't they? They do. Yeah, see, no, I'm telling you. I'm not lying. I love Silver Lake ramen.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
I'm so excited. Tell me about the music video for Taste.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
That sounds like something that would happen in Survivor.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
I'm pumped. Thank you. I feel like I've said I'm pumped four times, but I am. You are. And I love that for you. Thank you. Thank you. So when you were making this album, what were you listening to? Like outside of your own stuff, what were you listening to?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
I love Jinya ramen. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
I mean, you knew that. Are you going to see the Cowboy Carter tour?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
I'm pumped. Did you see Renaissance? What city did you go to?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
I wanted a dog so bad. The other day, I called Luis, and I was like, I really want a dog. I'm going to get a dog. And everyone was like, that dog will die. Oh, my God.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
No, no, no, no, no. See, it's not my sketch. It's who I am. Oh, gosh. You know what I mean? So it's you. It's me. It's like I can't. So I can't even imagine like, you know, Beyonce. You wouldn't feed it? You would forget? I would forget. I know I would forget. I know I would forget. The dog sitting right there in front of you scratching. No, I would just like, I don't know what I would do.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Yeah, I need you to find yourself and figure it out. No, literally. I'm like, how are you dogs 50 years old and still need help?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Dude, there's nothing like a dog on its deathbed. My fucking dog.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Go ahead. Like, my old dog, rest in peace, Katie, was.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
I remember at the end of it, we would all look at her. Like, me and my friends would be like, why? Like, why is she still alive? You know what I mean? And I would look at my mom like, it's time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Like, we are feeding her 10 pills a day. Oh, my God. Please.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
No, because... And then I, like, booked a trip to New York. I was really feeling myself. Like, I was like, let's go to New York this weekend. And then my parents were like, by the way, that weekend you're in New York, she's going forever.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
And I was like, are you kidding? So I had to say goodbye to her. I was like, bye, Katie. I went to New York.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
I was like, bye, Katie. I love you. I was like, I love her, but I'm on like meds that don't let me cry. And I was like, four or six years. I can't My dad was like No Katie was not well Like Katie was Like I don't know how She was still alive My mom strolled her around In a stroller Jeez Louise I ate some cheese I Oh Katie Oh my god Katie Did you have fun in New York? The best time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
A wicked fucking way. It's like, are you going to scratch me?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
What are you going to do? And it's like, you're related to a tiger. Hello? Like, do you know what I mean?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
But it's like, you can't like cuddle. And people are like, no, you can cuddle with cats. I'm like, but what if it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
And they'll like scratch you. And it just like bugs me out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Okay, I know. I used to think it was pho. It's pho. Yeah. It, Do you get like bad hangovers? Yes. The ultimate hangover cure. What? I've never experienced. It's like a mix of like some, somehow it's refreshing and really, because when you're hangover, your body, when you're hangover, when you're hungover, you're missing, you're missing salt and it's so salty and it just like cures you. It's like.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
So ever since then, I'm not, I'm not a cat. Do you have a pet now?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Exactly. And that's enough for me. Exactly. I fostered a dog for two days in college.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
That's the name of it? Kimchi and Honey. They were twins.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
one the ones i just recently seen on tiktok like one girl yes do you know what she's talking about and that one had the blue scarf i was like oh girl you're sickening play that tune play that tune actually my best friend at the time had one and i definitely stole hers because she had like three and i'm like you don't you don't you don't value this hey you guys we have a new sponsor for the podcast everyone say welcome to cozy earth
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
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Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Well, when I was on the website, I discovered that they also make clothes. And not only do they make clothes, but it's, like, elevated loungewear. So it's, like, temperature-controlled T-shirts and pants and sweats. And it's so comfortable, you guys. I'm not even kidding. They have this pant called the Everywhere Pant. And...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
I'm like a sucker for a pant that you can wear to like dinner, but like also to a movie or just chilling at home. And like, that's what you can do with the everywhere pant. I kept hearing so many people talk about Cozy Earth. It was my friend's bedding for like all of college. And so I was just like, okay, I'm just so happy I discovered it because I really wear it every single day.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
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Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
And if you do have it, please message me and tell me what you think of it. It's so comfortable. It'll give you the best sleep of your life. It's just you have to have it. Upgrade your wardrobe and upgrade your comfort with Cozy Earth. Thanks again, Cozy Earth, for sponsoring this episode. This episode of Therapist is brought to you by Booking.com. Booking. Yeah!
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Okay, you guys, I leave for tour today. So while I'm on tour, me and my team are going to be using Booking.com to be finding hotels all over the country for us to stay in. Because Booking.com is the easiest and most affordable way to book travel. They have a huge variety of options and I know I can find exactly what I'm looking for.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Also, like my number one anxiety is going somewhere and not having a place to stay. So with Booking.com, it's so easy to like organize a trip that like you can do it far in advance. So I'm like such a fan of the website already. Because I'm going to so many cities and also because I don't drive, I want to be sure I'm staying in like walkable and like centrally located places.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
No, you're, but like you're super dehydrated in terms of like sodium too.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
places and booking.com is like very very helpful with like figuring out where the best place to stay is based on your needs also if you're using booking.com to book a vacation and you're booking a hotel room you can choose if there's like a pool a balcony like whatever you need in your hotel room or your hotel like
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
that you can like customize your search to find a hotel that has that or a place to stay that has that. And not only can you book a stay on booking.com, the reason it's called booking.com is because you can book a car rental service, a flight, literally anything you need for your trip, you can book. Thank you Booking.com for sponsoring this episode again.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
What a perfect time as I literally leave for tour today. And I am so excited. Find exactly what you're booking for on Booking.com. Booking. Yeah. So tell me what's wrong. The pussy is right in. And they tell us what's wrong. Okay. And we give them advice. Okay. Okay. And then we'll prescribe them something. Prescribe them something? A drug? Like. Well, it could be, but it's like, I hate this guy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Okay. And he's with this new girl, and I don't know what to do. Oh, my God. So funny you say that. I prescribe you Tummy Hurts remix featuring Coco Jones.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
The music medicine. Yes. I like that. Or TV medicine. Ooh. Wait, I've never even asked you, what do you watch?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
I love... Have you ever seen Girls? Girls? With Lena Dunham?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Because Broad City and Girls gives me a little... Broad City is a little goofier, but now that you're in your 20s, Girls hits different.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Yeah, I think you'd like it. It's great. It's one of my favorite shows of all time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Yeah. I love those. It's like dry. Not as dry as Broad City because Broad City is like ultimate dry.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Who wrote that? They're amazing. They're so funny. They're amazing. I love Broad City. My roommate is in love with me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
He told my other roommate that he wanted to confess his feelings to me, but I do not feel the same. And now I'm dreading the uncomfortableness.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Hey there, Mr. Mr. Okay, radio. Stereo. The way you move ain't fair, you know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
I don't know, but I love it. Yeah, me too. Thank you. Wait, so you just announced your new album.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
I always feel the need to say sorry. Oh. I'm really OCD, so I'll be like, Sorry, sorry. Like I need to squash everything and make sure like we're good. There's no bad blood. You're feeling fine. I'm feeling fine. Like we're good.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Not nice. Or something. Is it something fucking nice?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
When I'm drunk, I always cry. But not like a pretty cry, like ugly sobbing crying. It's so embarrassing, and I don't want to stop drinking when I go out, but I don't want literally every person I go out with to have to take care of this big baby.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Just switch your alcohol. Sounds like you're drinking tequila or vodka, and one of them is not resonating with you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
But the last time I cried, it was like... The forced one for Katie.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Was it that one? I was like... But, like, the thing is, I felt it for her. Yeah. I felt it. I just can't come out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
It's horrible. And it's funny you mention that, because I actually was talking to my therapist today, and I think I tapered down on my meds. So I think I'm gonna do that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Yeah, my dad is like, hey, it's Big Pharma. He's like, you need to taper down on these beds.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Yeah, right? Your eyes get soggy? Like, I'll feel it right here.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
In the tear ducts below the eye surface? Like, I'll feel it, like, right here.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
You don't watch Housewives, do you? I don't. Oh, my God. Okay, so on Salt Lake City... There was this very beautiful moment with Mary and her son, and I got very emotional during that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Powerful. That takes some courage to do that on national television.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
It was such a moment. It was one of the realest moments in Housewives ever. Like I'm a big Housewives fan and you just felt how real it was. Wow. And it was just like so, oh God. And Mary... Mary used to be, like, people used to really struggle with her, and she just had this, like, crazy redemption these past two seasons. Yes, like, crazy redemption.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
So she was like, you don't like me for being myself? Okay, I'm going to come back on the show and still do exactly what I did.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Because everyone, she left and then everyone was like, wait, we miss Mary.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Yeah. She marries the best. I love Mary. Wow. I can't make this up. I was in the gym on the Stairmaster when I felt the need to poo. But before I could even hit the stop button, I had shit my pants in a packed gym. It smelt and I had to run while holding my butt. So everyone basically knew it was me. I don't know how to help you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
We need to start researching these things. That's what I'm thinking, too. My dad knew. Oh, my God. God bless him. He's alive. Sorry.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
I took an ancestry DNA test just for fun and to see where I'm from, but I ended up finding out that my dad isn't actually my biological father. What the fuck do I do?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
I don't. How is that right? I don't know. Also, you're not supposed to give your DNA to those sites. It's very sus.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
I prescribe an uncomfortable conversation. I prescribe some research. Just like that friend you used to have.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
And I'd be like, just bringing this to you. Yeah. Give me the real.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Just be like, hey. And if she lies, be like, well...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Yes. Oh, I loved Pretty Little Liars, though. Oh, I wanted that to be my life so bad.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
That show. Grabbed me by my neck. Yeah. I didn't let go. In a great way. It was the best show I've ever seen in my life. So the reboot. The reboot.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
No, no, no. It was like. Did you say 30 years? Yeah. Look, it was a completely new cast with a few same people. I thought you said three. No, 30. Oh, my God. Did you ever watch Degrassi? I did. That was my shit.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
But for those asking, you know, I, right before this, I was like, I think I'm going to stop sharing some of my personal life on here. But then I was like, whatever. So I did actually kind of go on the date. Like, I don't really know how to describe it. Like, it was like a speed date. Like, we met up at the club for like 20 minutes or the festival for like 20 minutes. But it went great.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Oh, I was like up there. I knew Drake from Degrassi. Wow. And then he wanted to, there was a whole storyline on the show. He wanted to become a rapper.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
I swear, if I'm remembering this correctly, he wanted to become a rapper. He had this girlfriend with really short hair. She really believed in him, but he was in a wheelchair. And then all of a sudden he left the show and was Drake.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Yeah, I think he like left to pursue his dreams on the show. If I remember correctly. But like, did you ever watch it with him on it?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Yes, I was like, hold on, Drake. Because I was like, on the show, I was like, oh, like, okay, like, Jimmy's gone now. Because there was always characters in and out of the show. And then I used to watch VH, a lot of people did MTV. I was a big VH1 kid. So every morning I would watch the music videos on VH1. And then I remembered seeing Best I Ever Had. And I was like, what? No way. Swear.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
So at first you were like, huh. I was like, that's Jimmy. Wow. And then I was like, oh, cool. And then he kept coming and coming and coming. And then he was raped.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Wow. Yeah. And how soon is the deluxe coming? Or I mean, I don't know if you can say that yet.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
So many people came from the USA, including the girl on 90210.
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Session 59: Coco Jones
No, it is the best show I've ever seen in my entire life.
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Session 59: Coco Jones
I can't believe that. I used to watch it and play video games at the same time.
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Session 59: Coco Jones
I cannot for the life of me find roommates I really like. Like everyone is either a little too messy, a little too needy, or just straight up wild.
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Session 59: Coco Jones
If you are constantly finding yourself hating someone, inward. Hello? Or maybe just live alone. It's not that serious.
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Session 59: Coco Jones
Yeah. I've always wanted to be an actor slash influencer, but I'm too worried people I know will judge me. How did you get over the fear of people judging you when you post online? Okay, so it's very different for you. You started when you were nine. Did you ever have that worry?
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Session 59: Coco Jones
Thank you. It really is. I just wasn't expecting when I heard it. Yeah. The Britney sample.
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Session 59: Coco Jones
Mine was it really, I will always credit my friends for it. It's the people you surround yourself with and you will always remember the people that didn't support you and made fun of you behind your back. First of all, you always know. And second of all, you will always, always remember the people that supported you. I'm so lucky that my friends never made me feel weird about it.
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Session 59: Coco Jones
That's the guy. The Britney. Oh, I just spit on you. I'm going to kill myself.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
They were just like, we'll look back on it and be like, oh, that was so stupid. But in the moment, they were cheering me on. It's just about who you surround yourself with. If you want to do it and the people you're around are like, That's weird. Maybe reevaluate who you're spending time with.
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Session 59: Coco Jones
Yeah, still. Oh, that's awesome. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah.
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Session 59: Coco Jones
They were, like, really my number one supporters. Yes. I mean, even Louise, like, has been with me since day one. And, like, I mean, like, looking back at it, I'm like, God, I was so delusional. But, like.
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Session 59: Coco Jones
Yeah. I love that, actually. Yeah. That's so dope. You need to be delusional. Yes. And you need people that are delusional with you. Yes. What's the fun?
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Session 59: Coco Jones
Yeah. I heard you guys talking shit about me on that podcast.
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Session 59: Coco Jones
I learned that I haven't had this much fun with someone in so long, Coco. Oh, my God. Like, really and truly, I haven't laughed this long in so long. You are so fucking awesome.
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Session 59: Coco Jones
You going to be there at a show? Yes, I will be at a show.
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Session 59: Coco Jones
Period. Thank you so much. Thank you. Want to give a little bye, pussies?
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Session 59: Coco Jones
I just wasn't expecting it. Taste is like you really reinvented the sample. It's just so cool.
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Session 59: Coco Jones
You know what you said? That was so funny as you were like, was I worried that people were going to forget about me, but you, Work so much. You do. You're in Bel Air as well. It's like people would never forget about you because you're always working.
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Session 59: Coco Jones
He was lovely and awesome. So it was a speed date. Okay. It was a speed date and it went great. What else? Coco's new album, Why Not More, is out April 25th, and the lead single, Taste, with the accompanying music video is out now. I'm so traumatized from saying words wrong ever since subsequent. I, like, literally just panicked saying accompanying name. Am I having a stroke? Okay, cool. Okay.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 59: Coco Jones
Right. She does definitely get it. Yes. And also like, I feel like people like that. I mean, I don't know. Cause that's like such a level of celebrity that I don't know, but like, do they like appreciate that? Like quick sense of normalcy, like your mom being like, man, like, When's the last time someone's called Beyonce, like, ma'am or miss? You know what I mean? Please.
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Session 59: Coco Jones
Like, it's always, like, Beyonce. Like, you know what I mean? Hello?
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Session 59: Coco Jones
Nope. You don't think, like, she's any, like, Mrs. Knowles?
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Session 59: Coco Jones
My mom texted me, your friend chapel. I said, friend, mom. I was like, mom.
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Session 59: Coco Jones
I was about to say, yeah. What was that Disney media training like?
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Session 59: Coco Jones
Yeah, I mean, I can imagine. How old were you when you started Disney?
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Session 59: Coco Jones
okay pussies enjoy the episode love you guys hi pussies welcome back to therapist today we have actress singer extraordinaire i adore her and i know you all do too welcome to therapist coco jones
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Session 59: Coco Jones
Do you feel more fulfilled by acting or singing or is it different?
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Session 59: Coco Jones
Hi pussies and welcome back to Therapus. Today we have actress and singer Coco Jones on the podcast and it was honestly one of the most, most fun? It was the most, it was some of the most fun I've ever had while recording. Sorry, I just couldn't figure out my grammar. I'm a little bit brain dead because I was just in Aspen this weekend with Celsius. It was really, really, really fun.
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Session 59: Coco Jones
And how do you, what is like, I'm so fascinated by songwriting, but like, how do you, what, like, what is your ideal situation for writing a song today? Like, do you like to be in the studio? Are you home? Like, what do you, what's your ideal environment for that?
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Session 68: Amelia Dimoldenberg
I think you're gonna like A Long, Long Time better.
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Session 68: Amelia Dimoldenberg
Story-wise, it's the most, like, important.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
Hi, pussies, and welcome back to Therapist. Tonight, we have on Jay Shetty, who literally sat here and changed my life. We talk a lot about meditation, and we talk a lot about controlling the mind, but then we get into stuff like dating and intimacy and whatever, and it's just a really beautiful episode, and I'm so happy that Jay came. He is the best, and if you want to see him on tour...
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
Yeah, I definitely, like, love giving people that space. I feel like that is actually, now that I'm thinking about it, like, kind of, like, I like to give people to be seen through, like, it's okay to, like, complain and be a bitch sometimes, you know? Absolutely. Which is the polar opposite of your message.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
A lot of people. It depends. I usually talk to someone and then once they get tired of hearing it, I just go down the next line.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
Thank you. Yeah, truly. Thank you. Do you hear that? Meaningful. Meaning. Well, I have so many questions for you, but I kind of want to start. So your journey kind of started when you were in university, right? Yes. And you heard someone speak and then you kind of like adapted this entire new lifestyle.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
Yes. So back to what you were saying about like the, the, how to master your mind. How do you, cause like I, I was thinking, I was just like ruminating on it. Sorry if I'm like jumping around, but like I, how do you like believe that? Because like I can say all I want like, oh, and I'll be fine or and I'll do. But like I how do I like force myself to believe that?
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
Okay, amazing. Sorry, I took you in on a totally different tangent. No, please. That's what this is all about. It's all about tangents. Okay, so back to when you were at university and this monk came and spoke to you, did you then live as a monk for a few years?
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
That is really, I would love to do that. I feel like I also think of myself as the main character all the time and I need to get out of that. So like that sounds amazing. So I'm very curious about the meditation aspect because my parents and everyone has always told me to try to meditate because they said it's very good for your anxiety as well.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
My worry is when I meditate, I just get really tired. And then I want to fall asleep sitting up. What is the goal of meditation? Can you tell me a little more about meditation, I guess?
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
Oh, that's incredible. I think I need to do breathwork.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
I can hear... Not much else. Some white noise. Yeah, some white noise. Some white noise and then I can hear the sound of my own voice.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
So it's almost like a menu and choose what works for you. Oh, that's amazing. Do you have like a meditation routine? experience that like, um, has been one of your most memorable, like you're like, Oh, I'll never forget that meditation. Cause that was like one of the most memorable. That's a good question. No one's ever asked me that before.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
Oh, like you can't scratch your foot when you're meditating?
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
And how long did you meditate for to get that feeling?
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
And what type of meditation was that? Was it breath work? Was it five, four, three, two, one, or was it?
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
That's honestly, I feel like that's exactly what I needed to hear. I have the hardest time being present. It's like probably like my number one pitfall is like I can, I'm either thinking about something that was happened before or something that might happen or something. Yeah. Nothing that's happening currently.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
I feel like it's especially hard for me and people in my generation because we're so – like, I'm so addicted to my phone, Jay. Me too. Like, I – Let's talk about it. Like, I don't know. Sometimes I think it really – like, as someone who already has trouble being present, like, it makes it –
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
so much worse like I feel like I especially with like God love TikTok because it gave me my career but especially with TikTok and everything like when I close my eyes I see my lock screen like you know what I mean like I am so I couldn't be more addicted if I tried like all I can like think about is like the glow and like it's hard for me to like sometimes I'll be in like the most beautiful place in the world that like I used to dream of going to as a kid and all I want to do is be on my phone and
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
And I don't know how to fix that. I don't know how to help myself. I don't know. Because I think it's a legitimate addiction.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
That's impossible. My thing is though, if I don't get messages in the morning, that also makes me upset.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
Who from? Like anyone. I just want to feel missed as I rest.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
If there's like a guy I'm talking to, like I'd appreciate a text from them. Do they usually text? No.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
Right. Especially because the phone kind of is a stage or it's become one. Correct.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
and it's really hard on our minds just as it would be hard to wake up backstage and walk out that's how hard it is so would you recommend like if tonight when i slept i like plugged my phone in out at my desk away from my bed so then when i wake up like i can shut off the alarm but then i like brush my teeth and like maybe like drink a coffee yeah that's good i like this this is going well and like
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
Okay, but what's your stance on TV? What is your stance on falling asleep to television?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
No, I'm really excited though to like plug my phone in across from my room and see how that works.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
My fear, and I have this anxiety that my hatch isn't going to go off. It will. I know, but I trust my phone to go off. And I think that's what I think.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
And there are also so many tours that are coming up and just announced – Lorde just announced her arena tour, which is going to be – Unbelievable. I am so excited for that. Tate is also on tour. She's on her Miss Possessive world tour, which I am so excited to see. And also Jay Shetty, who is in tonight's episode, is on the On Purpose live tour, which is amazing.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
live music and live shows was like the number one thing i missed during covid so now that we have it back um i would say i think take advantage of it and go if you can thank you c geek for sponsoring tonight's episode what did you learn about like self-love and self-acceptance like through living in a monastery self-love to me is not possible until you visit all the places of yourself you don't like
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
I feel like I struggle a lot with like, like intimacy though. And like being intimate with someone. And I feel like maybe that's why I struggle so much with dating because like, I like, well, what's the point? Like, I don't know how I'm going to be intimate with this person. It's like the first thought in my head. And then I can't get past that. And then I like, can't get into the date.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
so embarrassed of like my own like I hate going on like dinner dates I hate eating in front of people I hate like like existing in front of someone like I don't know how to be like sexual and romantic with someone and where does that come from I literally don't know I legitimately don't know I just I think it's because I like have experienced all of like my love and my love life like online
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
I never got to really like experience it in middle school and high school. So it's kind of like I'm learning now as opposed to like learning in eighth grade because I was able to kind of be like, well, there's no gay guys in my school. So just shut it off and I don't have to address anything that I'm feeling.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
And then I got to college and then I was like, OK, well, I guess I'm like learning how to on like a dating app or like online or like like I don't know, you know, and like now I just like I went on a date last night and I was like. so uncomfortable in like how I was behaving. Like I felt so like unattractive.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
Like I feel so like discombobulated with the world when I'm like trying to exist like romantically with someone.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
being rejected on a dating app because that was like the first place I ever like looked for love and like like when you're on like for example like a grinder of sorts like if someone doesn't like you like they can just they'll block you or like they'll or swipe right or swipe left or like whatever so it's like such a quick no so I don't I don't know what maybe that's where that's from it's like oh if
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
if they don't like me, like it's so quick, you know, it's like, I don't know how to, I don't know. I'm making sense.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
Because yeah, I think that's it. And also like, because I don't have like any practice in intimacy. Cause I like, I rarely do it. Like, I'm so uncomfortable with it.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
Yeah. That's what it is too. It's like, I feel like such a loser because I'm like 25 and like, I have been so inexperienced in these things.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
He is currently on the On Purpose live tour, which might be coming to a city near you. But yeah, the episode was great. I kind of just want to let you guys just go into it and experience it without giving too much away. But it's amazing. To see if I'm coming to a city near you, go to PassThatPuss.com and click live with Jake Shane.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
Does that make sense? No, a hundred percent. I just wish I could get out of my own head. Cause even like, if I am intimate, it's like, I feel like I have such bad ADHD and like stuff that it's hard for me to like be in that moment of intimacy. And then like, I have anxiety. After it, and then I have anxiety before it, and I just, like, don't... I don't know.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
How do you find that though? Do you just continue going on like dates?
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
Yeah, it's just I get so scared. I think it also – I just thought about this. It really just all boils down to like I get very scared of being made fun of. So I think that's also why I like to make people laugh and also why I'm very self-deprecating because I like to beat people to the punch. Yeah.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
And I when I talk when I'm flirting with someone like in public or like I'm showing like vulnerability or being intimate with someone like I'm so scared that someone's going to make fun of me or like someone's looking at me. And like I I know that my mom always told me like no one's looking at you. No one's thinking about you as much as you're thinking about yourself.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
Okay, I really think I needed to hear that. I'm glad. Because I do, I feel like it's, why would I want to be with someone who I have to like convince to enjoy my company?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
I think that's what I'm used to though. Cause like, I always like, always wanted to be like popular. Like when I was a kid, it's all I cared about was being popular and liked. And I would like force myself into crews and areas that like necessarily like, weren't not always for me. And I feel like, I am approaching dating with like the same mindset.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
And I feel like maybe that's also like my pitfall. It's like, I need to just, and it's also like, I hate going on dates and like not working.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
Okay, can I ask you about a date I went on last night? Please, I love it. Because you were talking about like how my vulnerability is my strength. Yeah. Okay, so I went on this date last night. Okay, can I just like start from the beginning? Please. Because I like need your advice on this. I'm really excited. So I thought this guy was cute.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
Like, I think we matched on a dating app like a while ago. And then he, oh my God, he's literally going to know exactly who he is. It's so embarrassing. All right, let's mix it up. I honestly like, but I have to tell you, like, then he became friends with Julia and Peyton, who are my two best friends. And I was like, oh my God, like, he's honestly kind of cute.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
Like, and then at Coachella, we saw each other and we were flirting like the whole night. And, And I was, like – I realized, like, as I became more myself and I wasn't, like, having this wall up, like, he was more into it. And then we went on a date last night, but then he never texted me today or last night. And I really want to text him, so you hate me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
But no one's letting me text him, but, like, that's me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
anxiety this is my anxiety i think he hates me but he also julian payton texted him like how was the date last time i know that's like i don't know if this is your field but like i just need your take on it i'm so sorry i love it and like julian payton texted him last this morning they text him because they're friends with him and i was like can you text him like get the vibe okay okay yeah that's and they texted him and he they were like are you gonna take jake out again he said maybe so what does that mean so i'm like well i don't know what that means
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
And now I'm like, now I think he double hates me. And it's like, should I not text him? I would text him. And say what? I wouldn't say, so now you hate me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
But it's like, I need that clarity. But it's like, we went on one date. What am I going to be like? Do you hate me? Like, do you not want to go on another date with me? Am I supposed to eat it? So you have two options.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
Because he's just going to, of course, he's just going to respond and be like, yeah, so much fun. Yeah. And then that's it again. Like, I just, it's like if they wanted to, they will, huh? Yeah.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
Honestly, now I'm like, did I even ask him if he had a pet? I'm the worst. I'm the worst. I'm the worst. What do I do?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
But now I'm realizing I even asked him if he had a pet.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
Yeah. Cheers to that. Yeah, cheers. Oh, yeah. It's bad luck if you don't. Oh, yeah. Even with the mic cheers. Always. I need cheers. Okay. Okay, do you want to get into the tell me what's wrongs? Let's do it. Do you know about the tell me what's wrongs? No, you're going to have to explain it to me. Okay, so the tell me what's wrongs are when the pussies write in and they tell us what's wrong.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
Oh, yes, yes, yes. And we give them advice and I think you're the perfect person for it. Do you want to take a bathroom break before we get into this? No, I'm so good. I do. Okay.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
Okay, wait, I want to tell you what a crash out is now. I assumed it was that. I assumed there were drugs and alcohol involved. Okay, so I'm realizing after my pee pee break that you don't know what a crash out is.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
No, a crash out is like... It's like, it's just like one bad thing. It's like a, it's like a pileup. It's like a car pileup. It's like one bad thing happens and you start thinking about like another bad thing and another bad thing and another bad thing. And then you just crash.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
No, I usually hyperfixate on one thing. Got it. So, for example, like, when that guy didn't text me back, I was thinking about our date. And then I was thinking about our Saturday night. And then I was thinking about the first time we matched. And then I was thinking about what I said on the date. And, like, that's a crash out. Got it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
Also, I've been meaning to ask you, because this was just before we get into the tell me what's wrong. What do you think, because everyone says I'm a really bad listener. Where do you think, do you, number one, do you think that?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
No, it makes complete sense. Can I tell you what I'm thinking about? So for the thought that gets repeated in my brain all the time is like, um, like everything's going to be taken away from me or I'm going to fail and I'm going to lose my career and I'm going to lose my job. I don't know how to like, and that, you know what I mean? Let's do it right now. Okay. I'm going to get canceled. And?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
12 years. There you go. Not a bad listener. And you've been married for nine.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
I'm not part of your team. There's lots of different ways. When I'm on a date, I think I'm a bad listener. I find myself sometimes when I'm on dates not caring. Is that actual me not caring? It goes back to what we were talking about earlier.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
It's like when I go to the bathroom on a date, I'm never peeing, I'm checking my phone.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
Yeah, ideally I get a real boyfriend before that happens. Ideally. Because I would be the type to fall for that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
Okay. So I think what I'm learning is that maybe I need less time on my phone.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
We already talked about that. Maybe you're not listening. No, I was, but I think that's like really what I'm taking. That's what I'm really taking from this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
And to submit a Tell Me What's Wrong, go to PassThatPuss.com and click Tell Me What's Wrong. Leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy. Enjoy the episode. I love you, pussies. Hi pussies, welcome back to Therapist. Today we have host of the award-winning podcast On Purpose. He is about to head out on his first ever podcast live tour and he is just the greatest of all time.
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Session 73: Jay Shetty
Are you ready for the tell me what's wrong? Oh yeah, let's do it. I'm really excited about this. My best friend is beginning to drift away from me and hang out with other people at college. It feels like shit and I'm wondering if I'm the problem or something, what should I do?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
Right. And I also feel like that's such a normal thing to happen in college. Yeah, for sure. College is such like was it like super formative for you as well? It's like such formative years and like you figuring yourself out and like, I don't know, like I feel like that's such a if you like look at it as like a blessing, like you can like rewire how you experience it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
You don't think they should message them and be like, hey, why are you drifting?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
Right. Yeah. And that's OK. You mentioned mindfulness. What is I feel like I've heard a million and one definitions of mindfulness. Like what is mindfulness to you?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
Okay. Does that make sense? Yeah. And how do you actively practice that?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
I feel like my thing would be like, as long as I made like one person there laugh, I'd feel good.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
I like that. Yeah. And then that's what you're aiming for. I feel purposeful.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
I've been post breakup for two months now and I'm pretty positive he was the love of my life, but I completely lost myself and I need to figure out how to better myself from it and move TF on the fuck.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
It's in your pocket. It's not going away. It's just about making yourself stronger so you feel the weight of it last.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
Do you ever believe in consuming media to make yourself feel better? For sure. That's usually what I prescribe people. So I would tell this person to listen to L-O-M-L by Taylor Swift. Absolutely.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
No, 100%. I was going to ask what music you listen to because I am just now curious.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
Yeah, because they introduced anxiety and nostalgia.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
Yeah, I listen to Drake in the gym as well sometimes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
Yeah, yeah. Not music video. It was an ad. It was so good. She was listening to him too and she fell on the treadmill.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
Yeah. Only one more? Yeah. Why? You're almost at two hours. Jay. This time has flown. Time flies with you. Time has flown. Have you gotten that before? I'm glad you feel that way too. I literally feel like I've been talking to you for five minutes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
I've had the best time with you ever. And I'm so excited to now ask you my final question. What did we learn today?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
I learned that you learned what a crash out is. And I learned everything that you just said to me just now. is what I learned.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
Yeah, I also learned I'm a good listener because you said how long my wife and I have been together, 12 years, nine in marriage. I didn't even have to think about it. I love it. You're the best. You could literally quiz me and I would tell you anything. Well, Jay, I'm going to text you and I would like to get together outside of this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
I'm in. We do need you. Jay, I really love spending time with you. I'm so grateful you came today and I really, really needed this. Thank you. I'm super grateful that you were here.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
Right. I feel like it just impacts how I live my life. I feel like it impacts everything that comes out of my mouth and everything I do. It's like that's always in the back of my head. But that's really good advice, I feel like.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
Well, I've always had that fear. Like even when I worked corporate, like before all this, like I always thought I was going to get fired. So I feel like in my line of work now, like how I view like a cancellation is like getting fired. It's like always been that thought.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
Like it was kind of like, um, when I was in high school, like I thought it was like, I always had this, like, am I going to get expelled or like, am I going to not get into college? And then when I had a job, I was like, am I going to get fired? And now it's like, am I going to get canceled? So it's all like cut from the same cloth of like, I don't like, am I going to get in trouble?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
Thank you so much. Oh my God, and I forgot to include that you're a New York Times bestselling author.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
It matters to me. It really doesn't. It's totally fine.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
It kind of started like, well, no, it started as like a joke, honestly. And like, I always talk about like, it was funny because like the week before, everything kind of like, I don't know if this similar thing happened to you, but like everything kind of shifted over like the course of a week.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
you know, like that one week where like suddenly like everyone's paying attention that like kind of happened with me. And I was, but right before that week, like I was very content and I was very happy. Like I didn't want anything more. I wasn't like, like, of course, like I wanted something more, but I wasn't always thinking about it. And I wasn't very anxious.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
And like, I had my job and I had like my Instagram account, my TikTok, and I was just kind of saying whatever I wanted and doing whatever I wanted. And then it, it's kind of like, And it all blew up very fast over a week. So I think I kind of got used to this idea of like this instant gratification, which is sometimes hard for me to like grapple with. Am I making sense?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
Cause I feel like I'm not making sense. But like I did these skits on TikTok and like that really took me off from like 60,000 followers to a million. And then obviously like the talent agencies and everything kind of started falling into place. And then the touring is kind of where I like found – I was like, oh, I really like being on stage and talking to people.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
It was heartfelt. I'm anxious for some reason, but I'm really excited that you're here.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
What was it that you liked about it the most? Hearing their laughs in real time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 73: Jay Shetty
So like, it was like, it felt like I was like in back in the living room with my best friends, like making them laugh. Yeah. And I know it's not like a standard comedy show, but like, it is kind of like just hanging out with me. And I think that's like my favorite part of it at all. Do you like touring?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
oops yeah what do you mean oops like you know you just complimented him yeah i i love jake like jake's a good friend of mine i think jake loves you too very cool um bless you i don't think that was a sneeze um and then also in therapy there's usually other people in the room
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I'm asking you as my new therapist. It just feels uncomfortable and I feel like I can't fully open up.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
What should I say to Jake? How should I act around him?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I think – I know, but I've seen – he has this rage inside of him. Oh, he does? I'm telling you right now. He has this, like, dark, dark heart, like a rage inside of him. And he used to work out, and I remember just feeling – he stopped recently, but I feel like – How do you know he stopped working out? Because he's my friend. We talk sometimes. So you can't tell or anything? I can't tell.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I can't tell. Okay. Just making sure. He looks buff, which is what I'm saying. It's like I tiptoe for my own safety around him because I've seen him crash out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
He has a certain level of fame. How famous? Pretty famous, I think.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
No. I would say a lot of his friends are celebrities. Holy shit. Okay. And I think he's friends with a lot of celebrities. Right?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
For the record, I'm never coming back to therapy. It's been a really weird experience. You're talking to other people while I'm talking to you and you're whispering. There's a smell. There's a sulfur stench that I can't get out of my nose right now. I'm like suppressing my gag reflex.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Okay, that was good, but that was a good bit.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
At this point, we just have to fill time. Like there's like, we need, we've ran through the talking points. I feel like I brought maybe like two talking points. It was like you going on tour. And then I gained a new one when I came in here with the sulfur situation. And now I'm like, I'm out of talking points. So we have to just fill the space.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
On... I leave for Dublin. We start in... Ooh, chic. I start in Dublin on... I don't know. We leave Friday and then we play... We start on Sunday. Okay. I don't know when this comes out. Okay. We'll be playing. Well, when do you... How long are you on tour for? We do Europe, UK until like December 12th or something. And then... We go to Australia in the first week of February, and then we do U.S.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
We finish in the U.S. Well, I'll be sure to be there for the U.S. shows.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I've never been to Ireland. I really don't like traveling. Like, I really don't like it. Why? It's just the worst to me. Like, I hate airports and planes and lines. Would you say it gives you anxiety? We were talking about this the other day. The only time I feel like I get anxiety is when I'm on a plane for more than six hours. I freak out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
No. I don't know. I've also had weird experiences on planes. I've passed out multiple times and fainted.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I don't. That sounds like untreated repressed anxiety. No, because every time that that happened, it happened three times in the past four years, and it was all from edibles.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Okay, because I kind of want to stop smoking weed. You should. Jake, I did it every day for years. That's what I do. And it gave me a freak out every time. Like I would have a panic attack every time I smoked weed, but I would still do it every day. Okay. Because one, I would tell myself that it helps me sleep and I can't sleep without it, which ended up not being true.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
And did it help you like write too? And then the other thing is like thinking that you're like creative on it. Like none of it's true.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I don't think so. I think I was just telling myself that I needed it to do those two things. And then I stopped. Did you face any like withdrawal when you did it? No, zero. I slept like a baby the first night.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Ah, sister. Let's keep an eye on this journey, guys.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
The only reason I brought them up is because of that goddamn TikTok account. The TikTok account.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
St. Laurent Cowboy, the guy who's impersonating me. I'm really sick of this weird narrative that you pull with. That's what I thought you did.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Tucker likes to talk a big game, but... It wasn't about the fact that you were wearing designer shoes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
So that's a me problem. Yeah, but I love you for your me problems.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I'm not going to smoke weed. Like that phase of my life is done. Are you going to party at all? Um, see, I don't, yeah, maybe.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I don't, it's not my favorite thing, but it is more fun in Europe. Those buses are better. Yeah, they're double-deckers. They're insane.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Bunk. Oh, yeah. That's what I wanted to talk about. You motherfucker. You are a princess. Your first tour and you have a bed in the back of your tour bus. I have been touring for how many years? Five years now? Never once have I had a bed in the back of my tour bus. I grind it out with the peasants, okay? We coexist in the stacks. Do you like the stacks? I hate it. Really?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I would love to have a bed. You know why you hate the stacks? You know what? I wouldn't be able to sleep at night because I would know that my band members are getting stuffed into those little cubbies while I'm like having the best night of my... Best what? Life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I'm just saying it's a blessing. You should feel blessed.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
No, I don't know. You seem blessed. I don't know. I don't know. I'm sorry if that came off like I was attacking you. I was attacking you, but I'm sorry. No, it's okay. I forgive you. Yeah. But that is crazy. I was very jealous.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
it's yeah you lost me where i don't know i don't know it is crazy meanwhile i'm like stuffed in a cubby on a bus getting fucking railed by the strips the strips on the highway uh-huh and there's like scabs and like weird like loose hair in my bunk and there's like scabs wires i have like a phone charger that fell out in the middle of the night it's like wrapped around my neck
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I think a lot. I think you do too.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I think we both probably think a lot. I think yours probably comes out your mouth more and I keep mine. And also I think yours is probably like if you just had ping pong balls like flying around. Yeah. There's mine. There's like shelves and units up there where I can like. Okay. What's like one of your most used shelves? I don't know. I think I judge people quite a bit. I think I do. Quietly.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I'm not like, you know. Okay. What do you judge them on? And that's not always a bad thing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Yeah, I think I'm a nice guy, but... But yeah, I have thoughts. I don't know. Like I went, like I went down a spiral when you were talking about the, your bed situation with the tube and heart rate stuff, all that. What was your spiral? I just was like, you're stressed about the bus.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I was honestly, I was like how I was thinking about how to change, like move this podcast forward and almost, almost do your job in a way. And like thinking about how to keep it moving. And like the next topic to bring up. I've brought up so many topics. I know, you're doing great. You're doing great. I was just being honest with you. That is what I was doing in my head.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
What would you like to talk about? That's fine. I'm just telling you what my internal thoughts are. I'm being honest with you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I love our banter that we are having. Me too. I'd love for it to just continue. Okay. I'm going to lay back. You know what I have noticed, though? Please, tell me. I have realized...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
recently that it's very hard for me to sympathize i feel like right now a lot of people are getting going into relationships right now it's how you say coffee season yep that was the first time we've ever really been on the same page i think we're starting to sync up i bet by the end of this episode we will be synced i think we're gonna be saying too um and i think i'm a lot of like i have friends who are like starting to get go into relationships and like
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Or at least just going on multiple dates with the same person and it's like leading to something. And I'm realizing that I have a hard time sympathizing with people who are having relationship problems or like bumps that early on in their little like relationships. I actually totally agree with you. Cause I want my own. No, no, we're not synced up.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Like, cause I'll get coffee with like friends and they'll be telling me and they'll be venting about how like they just started seeing this person a month ago. And like, there's already a little issues and we had to like have a sit down and they, I had to kind of change this about myself and like, she's going to work on this or whatever. And I'm like, I'm a firm believer that it should be easy to,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
and like smooth in the beginning like if you're already having bumps totally like i just can't sympathize with it and then they're like yeah i have to change this or like whatever like just changing anything about yourself like i feel like that's a huge red flag and i just can't sympathize with people who are having who are like coming to me with issues in a relationship that just started has this happened to you recently
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I have two friends who have recently started going into a relationship and they're just coming to me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Yeah, don't do that. I have to. I'm a firm believer that you don't have to, that that is not true, and that it can be easy, and that there is someone. Obviously, it's so much easier to, like, settle and find someone who's like, oh, my God, Jake Shane, you're so fucking hot. Like, I want to... Mm-hmm. Or you can wait a little bit and come across the perfect little puzzle piece for you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
But I've been waiting 25 years. And have the most, like, romantic sex rather than, like, Jake Shane, you're so fucking hot. And, like, you know. Don't you want to mix the both? Yeah, I think there is a balance. I think there is a balance. But I'm more saying, like, you don't have to settle and change things about yourself.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
That is what I've been doing, so that's why it's an issue.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
But I can't say anything because the only thing I want to say is, like, yeah, you shouldn't be doing it. Like, you should find someone else. Like, break up. So say that. That's always my... People don't want to hear that, Jake.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Yeah, but people just like to vent. I don't know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
And then I just have nothing to say. Not with you. Sometimes with you. But I just, you know. And then I feel bad and I'm like, breakup is the only advice I have. But you can't really say that. Have you met these people's significant others? But this is also, like, not just recent. This is, like, over the past, like, whenever.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Like, any time a friend starts seeing someone and they're like, yeah, it's going well, but, like, they kind of, like, embarrass me here in front of all the friends and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, okay, break up. What's your star sign again? Taurus.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
No, we like material things. We like St. Laurent sneakers.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Because that's what I always say. I know, but every time I say I'm a Taurus, they're like, oh, you like the finer things.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
This is the only nice thing I have. Oh, please. Really? Oh, really? Please. I've seen your house. Aside from the sulfur, it's fucking rich, my boy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I don't think there is. It was more just me venting. I think this is how it would go. I'm now realizing this is how it would go if I had a therapist. I would be like, you don't have to say anything. Right. I also don't like love advice either. You don't? I don't like advice. Why? Do you think your way is the right way always? No, no, no, no.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I just think advice is so, like, across the board, it's so situational. You're on an advice podcast. I understand that, but it's like, let me think of how to word this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
What were we talking about though? You were trying to word something politely. Advice. No, this isn't bad. This isn't towards you at all. Oh, okay. I promise. I just think it's so situational. Like me being like, like if you asked me for advice and you're like, um, kind of what we're talking about where you're seeing someone and you already feel like you have to change things about yourself.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Me being like, um break up with them i have no idea about your past or like what you've been through or if this other person is like gaslighting you into feeling like i like it's just so situational do you think that your advice to just break up with them is almost like inconsiderate I could be wrong. Sometimes I just think the advice is inconsiderate.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Like, if you're like, yo, if I'm telling someone to, like, drop out of college because that, like, worked for me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Please don't cut this up. Ready? I want the world to see this. Have you seen this one? I want the world to see this. Have you seen this? No. My God. You're something else. Let me try it. Go on. Remember last time? That was a good clip. That was a good clip. Oh, I remember. That was a great clip. I hope we get good clips this time. I'm trying to think of what we could do to get clips.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Oh, that's all you've been thinking about? That's one of the thoughts. Wait, I was just making a point, though. If I told someone to drop out of college because it worked for me, barely, but it worked for me. Seems like it worked for you. but it was close. But like me driving out of college worked, but me telling someone else to do that, like you have no idea what their situation is.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Like they might not have like a home. My parents still lived in Maine. So I took a U-Haul from Pittsburgh to Maine and got to like stay with them until I could figure out how to get to LA. What does that have to do with this relationship? We're talking about advice now. We're just talking about advice. Oh, sorry. Like advice is weird to me. I don't like to take it and I don't like to give it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
But you need to. I don't know. Anyways. How much do those sneakers cost? How much?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I have a sugar daddy and he got them for me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
And he happens to be in the room right now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
What else should we talk about? I feel like no one asked you about your sex life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Because I think everybody sees you as this cute little stuffed animal. You know what I mean? I haven't had sex. Do you want to guess the last time I had sex? Eight months. Eight months. Eleven. Coming up on a year. Coming up on a year. Jake. I know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Cut? It's already cut out. Right. I haven't had sex in almost a year. When's the last time you had sex? I don't know. We're not doing that. I just wanted to ask you because I feel like they want to know. I feel like the people who are fans of your podcast want to know about your sex life probably. So you're going on tour. You don't want to talk about that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I will say the advice part of the last time we did this was like horrible. On whose end? Mine. Okay.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Perfect timing because you just started recapping as you do. But that's good. This is perfect timing. You started recapping and now we get to do this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Yeah, I could not relate to more and thank God because I want to come off as more relatable on this this time around. Help was the way she ended that. She said, am I the problem? Yeah, I think I relate to you. I think I feel exactly the same way. And I would say, yes, I am the problem, which means you are probably also the problem. So you think she should settle, even though that's what you said?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
No, I think it comes along. I have the highest. This is another character default.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Mm-hmm. It just would have been cool to start this on like a positive note and to be like. We haven't been positive though. There's been beef. That really did it for me just now though. Okay. You doing that in the intro really just set me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I think I have very high standards for myself and how I act and how I behave and how I go through life. And also just little things. I think I have very high standards for myself, but I think I hold other people up to those, which is not always healthy. I think that's a bad thing to do sometimes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
okay i feel like i'm a very good listener outside of this podcast episode like if i'm on a date or if i'm talking to anyone i feel like i'm a very i will be attentive like i will never i will always do my best to never like go on my phone or do anything or respond to anything on my phone while someone is talking to me face totally do you genuinely care Yes. Like, I do think I'd do that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
And then it's really hard for me if I'm talking to somebody else and you can tell that they just are not... They don't care. Or their eyes are wandering. Or... Or... Or they like talk over your answer after asking you a question, right? Totally. You do this? No, I know someone that does that though. Okay.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Like just talking over, like me asking you a question, you answering it, and then me talking over your answer. Jake, I'm very pissed about that. I hate it. I can't stand it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
No, not friends, but I know plenty of people that do it. Got it. So she's the problem, this person. Yeah, but I'm also saying I am. We are the problem. We are. We are the problem.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I don't. When's the last show you watched? I don't know. I watch movies, but I haven't because my remote has been broken for a fucking month. So what's the last movie you watched? Long Legs. How was that? It was good. What's that about? Um... it's a horror movie. Nicolas Cage is in it. I love Nicolas Cage. Um, yeah. And it was good. A lot of people didn't like it. I liked it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Um, and I thought it was, have you seen the substance yet? When do you leave for tour? I do want to see that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Do they email you? No. So you didn't vote because everyone who voted gets emails from People Magazine every day and they complain about it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I couldn't agree more. What's something your mother has taught you? I don't know. She gave me very small wrists. She gave me very small wrists. Frail.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Yeah, what is this? Is this a painting or is that like a green screen? um it's a painting okay very cool abstract um okay well how about this okay because last time one of the first things you asked me was what i was pissed about octopus about therapist therapist about I think you've had quite the morning.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
And it went on too long. We're in the middle of a podcast and you're catching up with them. Yeah, those are my girls, my Jalloween girls. Well, I don't like Jalloween. You don't like Jalloween? What do you like? Halloween. I like Halloween. What were you? Did you dress up?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
No, no, no. I saw it. I saw it. I saw it. With Benny Drummond.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Do you want to do another American Idol thing?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
You can be Katie. I think I look more like Simon. You want to be Simon? Yeah, but I'm not going to do a British accent. Yeah. I'll be Katie. I'll be Katie. I'll be Katie. Okay. So you're walking in. Hi, Katie. Oh, sorry. That's okay. I'm just so excited. Holy shit. I know. Don't be nervous. Okay, I am. What's your name, sweetheart? I'm Jake. Okay, hi, Jake.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
um new york nice yeah um yeah nice and it says here um that you have never really been confident in your singing but you wanted to take a step and take a leap and do something that scares you yeah so is that today yeah scares you i'm gonna say i love you i'm sorry by gracie abrams oh my god i love that song um okay well whenever you're ready lie on
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I... Like my vibrato? I did. I liked it as soon as I stepped in. I feel like... we've figured out your pitch once I sort of came in and saved it. But I think as far as star power, I think you have the look and then I think we can just tweak those vocals, um, and really get them perfect.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. This time I was listening. Repeat that. But you said you were listening. I was, but I want everyone to hear that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
You've had a rough start today, and I would love for you to maybe open up and talk about that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Would she say fourth cousin? Sorry, I hiccuped. It's just like there's so many fish in the sea. Why? There might be fish in the sea for you. I hook up with anyone where the word cousin is like in. It doesn't.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
There's so many other options. Can I be honest? It sounds like they fucked. It doesn't. I was scared as you're reading it where it was going.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Like look through these before you select which ones. That's crazy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
That one was like, is incest cool or is it not chill? But it's 0.002% related. Okay, guys. So Jake wants you guys to hook up with your cousins. He has no problem with it. So go ahead because Jake Shane told you to.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I've already heard about it, but they haven't.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I mean, actually, you just said you don't. Let's move on. That's crazy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
That Imagine Dragons guy is so fucking hot. He was working out next to me the other day. No way. You were working out. Yes, Jake. But he was next to me. And my God, he is like a giant. That man is a giant.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
um i mean he would spin you around like a ceiling fan how do you wait he is a giant or he has it no he's a giant i'm sure if he's that tall obviously he's gonna have like a third leg but he's like built like a fucking icelandic giant is he icelandic i don't know he looks like it okay he's built like it i should say so fine see like if that was my cousin i'd fuck You guys heard it here first.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Say it, Jake. No. Is it that bad? To fuck your cousin. It's the fourth cousin. It doesn't matter. It has the word cousin in it. But you could be cousins with anyone. Everyone's related. No. There's so many humans in the world. Don't fuck your cousin, Jake.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I didn't say you should fuck your cousin. You're a weird little motherfucker. Don't fuck your cousin.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Well, get rid of these questions because now I'm not relating to them.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
But you see what I'm saying? I don't know. What are you saying? How can I help? Give advice. We just talked about this. I can't stand it. What's your favorite song you've ever written? See, that's a fun question. It is. I just think that when we start talking about music, that's when they tune out. I don't think they care.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I think when I brought up your sex life, I think everyone was like, oh, this is going to be the best podcast episode. But you won't talk about your sex life. I won't. Because I'm thinking about what they want to see, right? I'm trying to accommodate.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I don't know. I think I could go a long time though. Really? I was just in Austin and we went to Barton Springs and I was out there. What's Barton Springs? It's this massive pool that is like.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
made with like there's a river it's like a river but they like carved a pool out of it and there's just it's like very European and there's just like people laying in the grass and then you jump in and it's like an actual it's river water it's not a pool and I treaded water for what felt like An hour.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
They're my friends. I take best friend very seriously. Who's your best friend? My best friends have been my best friends since kindergarten. How'd you guys meet? Kindergarten. You want to know how I did it, though? Yeah. This is the type of bitch I am. In kindergarten, I had...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I had a friend this new kid who had just moved to our town was walking by and I had like kind of befriended him and I made them shake hands and I was like we're gonna be best friends aww and they shook hands so you're like the leader of your friend group I think they wouldn't like to admit it but I think I am I think you are too What's their, when's their birthdays? August. Leo. And December.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
December what? December. And August what? 20, December 27th. Okay. So Capricorn. Cool. And August 17th. I don't know. Leo. Virgo? I don't even know my parents' birthday, but I know theirs.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Yeah, we're all very different. So what do they do? Why did we just actually turn into a podcast?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Like, this just now. What time are we at? You just killed the flow. We just turned it into an actual serious podcast, and I hate it, to be honest. Okay, so do you want to stop talking about it? Let's stop talking about it. I love my siblings. What do they do? I'm curious. My brother's a lobster, man. What is that? He goes out on lobster boats, and he catches lobsters. That's fucking cunts.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Yeah, it is. Cunt as fuck. And then my sister does like physical therapy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I did. Yeah, it was good. It was a good water.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Mm-hmm. I don't know. I had a lot of fun. Oh, you – okay. All right. I had a lot of fun.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I'm very curious. What do you guys think? I think last time might have been a home run, but I don't know. Like, did you guys think this one was funny? Very funny. Different energy, for sure.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Do you have dance numbers? Like, no. We have a bunch of dancers for this tour. Really? Shut the fuck up. Me. I have three dancers behind me. Are you lying or are you being serious? And then we have drums, bass and keys, guitar.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
That was even hard for you to do. I watched it in your eyes. That was, like, hard for you to ask. You're like, so what is your favorite song? Yeah, you're right. It's like you threw it away.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I think I did my part. It's just as soon as we got to cousin fucking, I feel like that was more your realm we found out. Do you read? No.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I think you'd be amazing. Why? I don't know. I actually have no evidence to back that up. Because it was like a second ago when you asked me what my favorite song is to perform. That was really bad acting on your part because you tried to do this like you were interested thing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Go more, let's dig deeper into that person in your life. I know we can't say specifically their role, but maybe you could describe them as someone who...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Your art, your music. In the right environment. Like this, I know that they don't really care about like an artist's thing. Well, who are you to say that? I just know. I just know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I don't know. I think they just like to hear you talk. Oh my God. Thank you so much. I don't think they want to hear you be like, what was it like writing that song? Like, was that like mentally fucked for you? It's like, no, they don't care about that. They would rather you, I don't know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
The other things you ask when you're just, when it comes out of your mouth naturally, rather than being like, like,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
supplier has supplied you a place to has given you the shelter or or watches over the right place well actually they don't watch over and i think that might be the crux of the issue um yeah so and what happened i got in a fight with someone on the phone you did i'm like And then what'd she do?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Thinking about it. Thinking about it. Probably that. Well, I think you're doing. I think it works. I think you're doing great. That's great. And you should try it. What? Repression? You should try it. Thanks. That is my advice for you today. Okay.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
well i had a great time with you i had a great time too really yes okay um and i would still love to go out at some point if you just came a little bit do you want to see the substance oh you don't have time the other way yeah i hate seeing movies in la i can't do it wait why why because parking garages and like they're all in malls i don't drive go right It ends up being like $100. Of course.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I love you. Your octopuses are the reason I do it, and you guys are the reason I'm here, and I'm so thankful for you every day. Come see me on tour. You come see me on tour. Uh-huh. He's joking, guys, but seriously, come see me on tour.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
An old woman. Okay. Too far. Again, we don't know her role. We don't know her name. But an old woman, as soon as I got here, was like in the middle of flipping Jake off.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
It was great. We're done with your morning?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Um, cool. Spare you. I, tour was great. I loved tour with Gracie. It was the wholesome sweat tour. It was the sweat tour for people who wear loafers and it was amazing. Did people wear loafers? They did. And they, everybody's got a bow. She's got that on lock. She does have that on lock.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
It was the Good Riddance tour. Okay, cool. What do people wear to your shows?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
That's awesome. I will say... I had a great time. But I will say the comments... On that video and every clip that I saw were wild. What was your favorite? I don't know. I saw one about me telling you to take out your bicep and show me your biceps. I don't have those anymore.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Jake, show me your bicep. Pull your sleeve up a little bit. That's muscle.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
The muscle is so big that it's just moving around.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I do it all. Okay. Okay. And you can't tell?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Well, this is. Somehow this is worse than last time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I, my toilet overflowed this morning. Why? I don't know. It just. You don't know? Overflowed and then like flooded my bathroom. But what were you doing for it to overflow? I know what you're trying to get to and I don't shit. Okay. I don't.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I was just curious. No. And it just overflowed and flooded my bathroom. And my first, like I just didn't know what to do. I did have a little, I felt like you a little bit. I had like a little bit of a panic attack.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
And I, my first instinct was to call my mom.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
And she was like. what's she gonna do figure it out exactly i was like showing her and um showing her what the active like volcano of a toilet that was like spilling onto my so did you leave with the toilet i cleaned it the best i could it stopped and then i cleaned it and then um there's a plumber that might be at my house right now so
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
pretty i was pissed about that but i feel safe you feel safe now you know what's one thing you shouldn't be pissed about your amazing haircut thank you awesome um do you like compliments i yeah i do okay um do you want to talk about the sulfur smell in your home that i've heard about it was like the first thing i heard about when i walked in
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
And guys, Jake was here alone, by the way, so do the math on where that stench would be coming from. I wish you could see it, too, because the way they are shooting this, you can't see it because of the light, but he has these green squiggly lines coming off the top of him, and there's these little flies buzzing around him. My God, does it stink in here.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Yeah, that would be tough to come home to, especially you just came back from tour.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
And now you're doing this too. I know. You're a trooper. I will say that. You are a trooper for getting off tour this morning and doing this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I'm very impressed. Thank you. Being honest.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Yeah. Do you want to talk about tour? How was it?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
um so the new question that we're asking people in season two is what brings you in today yeah i forget this is supposed to be like a therapy set this is like almost like a therapy session yeah i forget about that i don't know but we should treat this like an actual you want to like we should actually treat this like a therapy session okay i could learn things about myself
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
That's what I'm saying. Never? It'd be cool to do it on camera. Okay. As a social experiment.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I know, but can we at least, like, role play it a little bit? Okay. Like, act the whole thing out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
This is your podcast. Okay. I'm on the long couch, too.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
What brings you in? I just, I, like, I've never gone and I just feel like a lot of people say really good things about therapy and how it helps them. And so I thought it'd be cool to give it a try. I also have this friend. Do you? His name's Jake and he...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
like drives me insane like fucking pisses me off and i'm just like i want to keep that friendship close and like i do value him yeah human i totally get that in my head it's like i treat him like an animal no i 100 get that and i don't want to think that way i totally understand that it's so funny you say that a lot of people come in and tell me about how amazing jake is really yes so i think we're talking about the same one other patients have a friend named jake
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I don't know. I feel like sometimes I have to tiptoe around him. Are you fucking serious? And I feel like I have to... You know when you have certain friends... Totally. That... You kind of have to treat like a princess to like make them happy and to treat them like royalty. Okay. Especially when they start making it up in the business and they start getting like St.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
Laurent sneakers and like nice watches. That's so weird. I have the same sneakers. Hold on. And they start going on tour and touring the country and... I feel like you end up having to almost bow down to them in a way. And I just feel like that's not what friendship is about.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 45: Role Model Returns
I don't know that cause I haven't been. Right. It's cool that this is my first time and I just want to ease into, I don't know. We can use to feel like I'm the problem immediately.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Hi, pussies. Welcome back to Therapist. I am in Nashville. We have two days off here before I go to... Birmingham, Alabama. I am so excited. So I guess, oh, by the time this airs, I guess I will be in Alabama. But yeah, in other news, I'm on tour. We are almost done with this first leg of tour. I am exhausted, but having the most fun ever. We just did two shows in Ohio. They were amazing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
The most cunty. But I think that's why she was so angry at Kyle because she was like, are you fucking kidding me, bitch? Like, you know I did this. Why are you bringing it up on camera? Because the thing about it is like, If it's not brought up on camera, it's not real to them. So like when you- And to us. Yeah, and to us.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
So if you bring it up on camera, that's like you're drawing a line in the sand.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Ever since I poured it, I was thinking about it and I was feeling really bad about it, but I didn't want to like overstep.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
And... Lucas Gage? Yes. He's the biggest Bravo girl.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
you guys i just got tickets off ckeek.com for beyonce's cowboy carter tour this summer and i am so fucking excited i am picking out my outfits i cannot fucking wait if you know me you know how much i loved that fucking album and how much i love beyonce and if you know me you know how much i love ckeek so thank you so much ckeek for sponsoring today's episode
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
I would also. I would like somehow weasel my way in there. No, you wouldn't have to weasel.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Yeah, I remember playing. I don't remember the game. No, I played Manhunt. That's so different. That's what I played. That's what I played. That's why I was like, I was confusing the two and I was like, how the fuck do you play Manhunt in reality television?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Got it. Okay, I want to, I think I'm going to watch Traitors.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Do you, wait, so you grew up in, South Carolina.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
So is it just like kind of kismet that you got the Outer Banks role or like?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Yes. Like this orangey brown. It's a, it's a, it's a canon event.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Did you expect Outer Banks to become as big as it was?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
That, I just remember, like, there was, like, three shows that had, like, honestly, it might have only been two, a moment in time in COVID, and it was Tiger King and Outer Banks.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Summer is just around the corner, and with summer means more live events. I just feel like going to live shows in the summer is like the best feeling in the entire world, whether that be an artist or a comedian or whatever. It is the best, okay? And SeatGeek is the best place to get tickets for it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
And I just remember, like, everybody, that was kind of the beautiful thing about COVID, is, like, everybody was watching the same thing at the same time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
I don't think there was any other shows, unless I'm missing something, that popped off during COVID the way that that did.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Was there ever a moment where you were like, I hate that this is happening during COVID?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Did you like quarantine? Yeah. I liked it too. I did.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Right. I also love sitting, but I also, I'm a pacer. Do you ever pace?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Yeah. You love to party. I do. I do know that about you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Just because we always talk. We're always like, we actually always run into each other after a night out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
I went to living room on. I said, I said to Madeline, I was like, there's this new club called living room. And she was like, I love my living room. I was like, no, like it's a club. And she's like, no, I know. Like I go from the bedroom to my living room every day. And I was like, no, Madeline, it's a club called living room.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
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Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
I didn't have a hangover. Right? I was a little nauseous, but that was it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
And I just recently got into olives too, which I notoriously hated.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
How do you get out of something? You ate too many?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
No. What is ACOTAR? A court of thorn and... What? I just... What is it? A court of... Yeah, a court of... A court of... A court of... A court of... A court of... Thorn and roses.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
I don't read. And, but I read it and I loved it. And then, um, but the, the main, the main character besides, uh, the Sydney Sweeney is the, the house, uh, the, the, the lady of the house. And it's played by Amanda. What am I supposed to the wife? Like, I don't know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
That's how you know I'm on TikTok too much. I was like, what can I call it? The matriarch? Yeah, am I going to get in trouble?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
I don't know. I was the house wife. I don't know what I was going to say. The wife. That bitch.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
The SeatGeek app makes it really easy to find live events wherever you are. It also has tickets rated on a scale from 1 to 10, 1 being not so good, 10 being good. Good, so you know exactly what type of seat you are getting and what type of show you will see. SeatGeek is literally just the easiest and the best way to see live shows. And I just feel like life is more fun seeing live shows.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Is played by Amanda Seyfried, which, yes. Okay, she's house mother. But the way she's described in the book is like this. Like this like actual slob.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Amanda Seyfried playing a slob. And then you've seen, I've seen photos on set and I'm like, Amanda Seyfried looks good. Yeah. Like really good. And the whole point is that she doesn't look good and looks like a hot mess. Maybe I haven't seen like on camera set stuff.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Oh, well, Hollywood's just sitting on a goldmine.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
When people used to comment that I should read actor, ACOTAR, I thought they were saying actor and like an accent.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
So I thought they were calling me an actor. So I thought it was like, you are an ACOTAR. Like that. But then someone started reading it and they started saying it. I was like, oh my God, it's a book.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
You are an ACOTAR and an ACOTAR. Speaking of ACOTAR, how long have you been acting for?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Oh, really? Yeah. You were in Stranger Things too, no?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
I just feel like, especially during COVID, it was like the number one thing that I really, really missed. There's nothing like seeing live music or your favorite comedian live or a sports game live. Like, it's just... this sense of community that you really can't get over the internet. There is community over the internet, but just like being in person is really, really special.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
I, meaning to ask you about the originals. Were you a Vampire Diaries fan? Such a Vampire Diaries fan. Same.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Wait, so your homework though was from your parents? Yes. What was that like?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Only child? No. I would never assume you were an only child, which is so funny because people always assume I'm an only child.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
No, I have a younger brother, but I behave like one.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Wait, do you also, are you bi-coastal in New York and LA or just mainly here?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
So if you want tickets to go see your favorite artists, go to SeatGeek.com and use code THERAPIST10 for 10% off. That's SeatGeek.com and code THERAPIST10 for 10% off. Thank you so much SeatGeek for sponsoring today's episode. I love you. I love you. Hi pussies, welcome back to Therapist.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Whoa. Tell me everything. Why the less you like New York?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
It was like a video game, but people are so horrible at driving in New York.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Dog. I'm allergic. Fuck. I was about to say you sent me a photo of one of them the other day and I forgot if it was a cat or a dog.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Have they ever scratched you? Yes. No. Bite, scratch. Bite?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Dating is also I find to be better there. I find at least maybe just for me. Have you ever spoken to Lucas Gage about this? Like I feel like because he's gay like New York is better for gay people.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Yeah. So like that's why it's more like L.A. is like I told you I'm going to a date tonight. I was like I don't know if it's a business meeting or a date. L.A.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
It probably is. But New York what was I going to say? I do see how it's work island. I feel like I work more here though, but I guess, I guess I feel like maybe I know this sounds stupid, but maybe like being in a house makes it feel like you're doing less work than being in a small apartment.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Today we have a dear friend, just the best ever, the star of Outer Banks, Knives Out 2, upcoming I Know What You Did Last Summer, recently signed on for the new movie Day Drinking, Madeline Klein.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
I'm struggling with that because my two best friends, Peyton and Julie, are moving to New York.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Because Peyton, Peyton, correct me if I'm wrong, but she keeps saying she needs a New York moment.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
We just get, like, LA is just, I don't know. No, I get it, I get it. I think I'm going to do both places, though, which I'm very lucky to be able to say I can do. But I am, I think I'm going to do, try both places just because.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
I don't want to leave. LA is, like, my favorite place on planet Earth. Right? I love it. Right? Wait, but you were saying you love the food in New York. What's your favorite restaurant?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
I missed a fun night out, though, with Theo. I remember Thomas Doherty was there.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
I'm not. I was like, you guys, I can't. And Thomas makes me nervous.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
I remember being like, damn, I should have gone.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
I can imagine. Yeah. Actually, I can't imagine. I don't know why I just lied.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Thank you, Booking.com, for sponsoring today's episode. Booking.com. Booking. Yeah! Well, you guys know I'm on tour, and you already know we do not book hotels until we get to the city because... We just forget. So this morning we got to Nashville and we did not have a hotel booked. So we went to booking.com and we put in everything we needed to make sure we got the hotel we wanted.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
I am now staying a few blocks away from Broadway, walking distance to everything because as you know, I do not drive and I need to walk. And it was just so easy and so perfect. Booking.com makes it literally just like the simplest thing in the entire world. I feel like booking a hotel is actually so stressful. I don't know if that's just me and everything stresses me out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
It's day drinking. We're day drinking. That's why I got it fucked up. Madeline brought me a nice big bottle of champagne. Because we've been wanting to do this for forever. We have been wanting to do this for forever. What happened last time? It was like everything got fucked up. I had to go on tour.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
But finding the perfect hotel you want with all your needs is very stressful to me. It just is. So like being able to go to booking.com and put in, I need a gym. I would like a pool. I would like walking distance. I would like this type of view, this terrace. And then they give you all the hotels that have that. It's just simple.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
It makes booking a hotel and booking a vacation really, really, really simple. And I'm so grateful that they're honestly a sponsor for this podcast because we've been using them throughout this entire tour. I don't know what we would have done without it. I think I'd be sleeping on the bus every night, which is great. But it is nice to sleep in a hotel bed every now and then.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
No matter who you are, Booking.com helps you find the stay that is ridiculously right for you. Find exactly what you're booking for at Booking.com. Booking. Yeah! So we just took a mid-break to talk shit, which was awesome. Yes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
That was awesome. That was great. Seeing your reaction to me delivering the news was awesome, too.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
I'm so excited to hear. Will you actually tell me after this? Of course. Oh, I'm pumped.
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Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Do you think my reaction is going to be similar?
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But do you ever, like, feel bad when someone's, like, explaining to them and you're like, am I a mean person for being angry? Yeah. Like, I confuse my anger with, like, being mean. And that's my number. And I think. I understand. Like, I was very, very angry the other day. Like, furious.
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They're furious. And I had to have Peyton sitting there with me to be like. Just basically, like, if I'm angry and Peyton's sitting there with me, like, I'm ten times angrier than I entered the room.
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She, like, really, like, eggs me on to no end. But I, like.
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Yes. She, that's, that's the thing with her. Like, she gets angry for us and, like, her friends. But I, I hate, my number one pet peeve, or just, like, my, the thing I hate most in the With such anger and such a point. And then I deliver it so poorly to the point where I'm able to get gaslit into believing that I was wrong.
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Did you feel when like all the success starts to skyrocket your anxiety get a lot worse? Yes. I can imagine.
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Did you ever have to – well, because Outer Banks, like, really popped off on TikTok for that moment. It was really popping on TikTok. You were also in, like, a relationship that was perceived publicly, and that was, I assume, the first time that's ever happened to you? Yes. And was – like, were you like, what the fuck do I do? Yeah.
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Because do you feel like when you... Figuring stuff out is like everything you do, people are going to comment on what you're doing.
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So then it's like, how am I supposed to figure out who I am and what I want to do if everybody has an opinion?
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Okay. What's the longest time you've ever shot something for? Outer Banks. How long?
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I have so much respect for you because, like, I don't know how I would ever. Everyone's opinion influences me.
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Fuck. But I think you're doing a really beautiful job of figuring it out.
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Thank you. And can I tell you what I really noticed that? When I was watching Knives Out 2, you were my favorite part of the whole movie. Oh my god, thank you. Not even just saying that, my favorite part of the whole movie, you were so funny, so quick, like your comedic timing was so there. And I remember just thinking like, She's going to go really, really far.
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And, like, you just take up a screen. Like, you take up the whole room. And, like, that's who you are. You're a star. Like, aside from everything else, like, you do, if you continue doing what, like, gravitates towards you and what you want to do, like, it's going to work because everything you do, you do really, really, you excel at.
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Yeah, that's just my opinion. But it is true. Like, you were my favorite part of that movie.
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I love you, too. What music are you listening to right now?
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Oh my God, you're going through your Saturn return or you're about to?
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It's like, I thought I had the brat summer. No, like you had the brat summer.
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Are you pumped? What do you know? Really stayed out yet. Right. Not yet, no. Okay. Not yet. That's what I thought.
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Scorpio. Scorpio. I know, but Pisces and Scorpios are like this. Yeah, it's true. So I get it, but I am a Scorpio. I love a Scorpio. Gemini rising, Gemini moon.
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Yeah, that's what people say. You really do. It's because I adapt.
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That's not in the third. I forgot. But here's my dog.
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Is it like we'd have a lot of fun on a night out? Yes.
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Gemini moon. I feel like essentially. No, I'm both. I feel like essentially I am a Gemini.
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That's my mask, but that's also my moon. So it's like.
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Oh, that's actually super fascinating. Yeah. And I think that's why I have such a hard time separating who I present myself as and who I'm, alone with because it's the same thing. So I'm like, who am I?
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Do you ever, do you have like good coping mechanisms for your Virgo tendencies? Absolutely not. Neither do I. It used to be weed, as you know, but clearly it wasn't voting with me. I quit.
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My thing with weed was that like it was so – it was so good for me for so long that
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um it's like like how i'm here right now because like i was very like funny and creative on it and then all of a sudden it just flipped a switch and i started like the same thing happened panicking and like having like really like i started okay here's when i knew it was bad is when i started i was like putting out this like comedy album and i really didn't want to put it out every time i smoked and i was like holy fuck like
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I just, I can't do this anymore. But I feel great. Three months sober.
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I am California sober. It's what it is. What is California?
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Oh, I love that. I'm never going to be able to not do that now.
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What's your favorite song? I love Guess. So Guess was the song that got me into Brat. And then I had a moment with B2B.
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And then I really, really honed in on Everything is Romantic.
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Snuck up on me too. Never was interested in it. And then I was in the car with my friend and he played it. And I was like, what is this?
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You are like always going through it in one of the most beautiful places on earth.
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I just, like, remember. Do you like the remix album as well?
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Okay, so the remix album, when you start to see the remix album as a direct response to Brat and the success of Brat, it hits so different.
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Is my favorite, too. Yeah, it's my favorite. That's my favorite, too, just because, like, The first one, Everything is Romantic, is all about like the sunset and Capri and partying. And then the next one is like finding pleasure in like the wall. Yeah, like free bleeding in the autumn rain.
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I have sit. I have sit. But yeah, Brat really soundtracked the summer. I hope we have another fun summer though.
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Was everything. And now none of them are going to release for so long. I'm sad. It's going to suck.
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I would happily release something with you. Should we make our own? Yes.
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We should call it sitting and standing. Oh my God. Incredible. You're sitting on the cover and I'm standing.
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Boots. But wait, so you were in Barcelona filming? Yes. How good is the food in Barcelona?
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Did you take any weekend trips when you were filming there? Like to any of the islands?
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I'm now performing Sugarfish live, which has been so, so fun. But right now I'm in Nashville and And we have Madeline Klein on the podcast this week. I love Madeline Klein so much. From the first time I ever met her, she was so lovely and kind and just like such a breath of like fresh air. She's like actually one of the most... warm people I think I've ever met.
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Okay, I'll visit. I'm not doing anything in May. Wait, that's not true. I'm not doing anything in April, and then I have half of May free.
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Yeah, it's just not happening. Yoga's a lot for me, and also, last time I did yoga, I was like, wait, why is this hard? I didn't sign up for yoga to be hard. I'm tired.
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Yeah, Shavasana. I used to do it during Core Power, which I used to do Core Power, by the way.
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I like it when I'm feeling myself and I can take off my shirt. Mm-hmm. If I can't take off my shirt and I'm not in that headspace, fuck that.
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Like I was working out today. Sorry, what were you about to say?
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I get dizzy too. Wait, what are you? Sorry, my mind's racing, but that's because I'm a little tipsy. But what? When you were taught.
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What are you watching on TV right now besides Trader?
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It's not that scary. It's just a little like jarring to see and be like, oh my God, this is possible.
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It would just look... It was so unique. It was so cool.
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And you're having a better day than her. I am. A much better day.
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I'm watching... Have you ever seen The Night Agent? Yes. Okay, I just... That's my current nighttime show.
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Yeah, just like... It's like a spy government thriller. Like, it'll put me to bed. And then... I think that's about it. I'm watching Old Housewives of New York.
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Which I've never seen before, so I'm really, really enjoying it. I'm watching Salt Lake, which you need.
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Salt Lake's the best one. Salt Lake. Hands down, Salt Lake is the greatest, greatest one. It is just excellent television.
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Speaking of, should we pop this? Are you going to do it one-handed? I think so. That's impressive. Oh, I'm scared.
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Oh. She is everything. I'm obsessed with her. She visited set, right?
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I've seen a little bit of it. I've seen like a season and it is so funny.
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You're knowing my stuff. Oh, to Phineas. Well, because, like, I just wasn't expecting Phineas to come in here and tell me he knows I do Pilates.
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I saw him. I saw him the other night. And I just remember being so drunk. But his breath smelled so good. And I remember just keeping, like, your breath smells amazing.
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That's what I said. So then I was like, you know what? I need gum. So then I went up to him and I was like, do you have gum? Like, I thought it would, like, cap off, like, the joke. And he goes, no. And I go, got it.
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Yes. Okay. He's the time magazine guy, right? Yeah. He's so cool.
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My class would be... Peyton, what would my class be?
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Yeah, I would teach the art of complaining and why it's beautiful and why it's healthy. I complain about everything.
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Yes, and I would teach you how to complain... Artfully.
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Because there's a certain level to complaining where like you cross a line and it's like, no, now you're just ungrateful. Right. And I crossed that line so many times.
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And like, it's like you have to, every complaint has to have a level of humility and And comedy to it.
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Wait, I love the Madeline Klein School of Education.
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I think it will. I would take all of Sam's classes on pop culture.
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What? Is it out in theaters or on? Yes. Okay. I'll see Companion. I really want to see it because Sophie Thatcher's in it as well.
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It's thriller. It's just like the idea of like what humans are capable of is scary.
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It's one of those that I watched like from the jump and I was – have you seen Girls?
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Okay, so I started Broad City. I got a few seasons in and then I stopped I think to watch – I forget. I ended up – oh, you know what? I was catching up on Industry.
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oh i have not seen that oh my god talk about cunty that is the best show ever really yes oh my god it's like all they do is like trade stocks and do drugs and it's like the cuntiest thing there's this character named yaz and like she is louise how much do you love yaz i can't even talk Like, it'll change your, industry will change your life.
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What's West Wing about? It's about, it's like that older show, right?
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incredible tv i just i love sci-fi okay i also really like so good speak okay so if you love sci-fi would you do you ever watch shows with subtitles because it's in another language would you ever yes have you ever seen dark on netflix i love dark it's my favorite show of all time so good it's my favorite show of all time and they don't there's no season two it's just no it's three seasons you've only seen season one what yes it's three seasons and season two is the best wait
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It's changed how I view time. It's changed how I view science. It's changed... It is the best show. One of the best shows I've ever seen.
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No, you have to. But you have to re-watch season one.
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My boyfriend of three years just deadass proposed at a family dinner. Deadass. Mind you, we haven't even really been talking about it too seriously and he just did it in front of his whole family. Not both of ours, just his. Selfish. Like, I had to say, can we talk privately and then explain this is insane. What the hell do I do?
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It sounds like they were at a family dinner of sorts, but for only his family.
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right like it's just awkward you know what it's giving have you ever seen miss americana yes okay so there's a scene and the taylor swift does a meet and greet and a fan proposes to his fiance and it comes out later have you heard about this it comes out later that she ends up being like no so like you just need to be like no but it sounds like she was already like no
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It also was giving like he did it in front of his family as like a guilt tactic. And also, how old are we? I don't know. People are getting married young these days. Young.
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Right, great. You know, I've never had a boyfriend.
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Yeah, that's what I want. But I've never had a boyfriend. I tell everybody this, but like, I think it's, I don't know what it is. I think I keep going on these business dates.
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It's shit here, and that's why I want to run around New York.
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You. What do I do if I want to get into the school plays, but I'm too embarrassed to get up there? When neither the theater kids or my current friend group know it's a passion of mine.
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You have to get after it. Get after it. It's my number one regret in my entire life is not.
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We're doing very in-depth plays as a 10-year-old.
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Where did we first meet, speaking of? The airport, no? We met at baggage claim. I know we met at baggage claim.
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But at least you tried. I tried. So I recommend this girl try.
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Glee. Glee. Because everybody in that show just fucking tries.
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It is iconic. So iconic. And re-watching it, it's like this is the most out-of-pocket shit I've ever seen in my entire life.
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Do you remember when they like all took Adderall and performed? Like, it's amazing.
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Yes! They pushed Archie into the pool, and then they all did a musical number in wheelchairs.
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Gru? No. Vector. Vector. She always kind of dressed like Vector.
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My best friend hates me. There's nothing more to say.
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Sorry. No, no. Imagine. Oh, she's gone. My best friend hates me. There's nothing more to say. He would never say it out loud, but it's a general animosity. You know, girl so confusing style. He just aggressively negative towards me constantly. We've been friends for seven years, and I once stepped away from the friendship, but he wanted me right back.
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Yes, and I was like, is that not? No, that was a re-meeting.
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I don't think there's honest conversations happening in this friendship at all.
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Yeah, I would literally prescribe Girls So Confusing the remix with Lorde.
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Right, I agree. Address the situation. Address. And listen to Girls So Confusing featuring Lorde. My boyfriend is currently working on the big mustache mullet combo. I can't stand it. He's also not the type to shave just because I told him to, which I'm currently loving and hating. Help me hatch a scheme to get him to think shaving was his idea.
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No, because we hung out at Tommy's after already meeting.
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Have you seen the episode of Gossip Girl where, what's their name? I think they like pour an air on somebody's head. I prescribe that, that episode of Gossip Girl.
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I think if you think it's his idea. Okay. So what I would do, this is what. I feel like we're talking about Peyton so much. This is what Peyton does. When she, for example, she's going to Milan in a few weeks. So she picked up her phone yesterday and said, Milan, Milan, Milan, Milan, Milan, Milan, Milan, because she wanted people on her Raya to show up as Milan.
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Oh, it always works. I love FBI man. You have to take your boyfriend's phone and say like, shaving risks or shaving benefits, shaving benefits, shaving benefits, shaving benefits, shaving benefits, mustache ugly, mullet ugly, mullet ugly.
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A whisper of a mullet. And I love a mustache. My best friend Will had a mustache for the past few weeks. And every time we picked up the phone, I said, I would always say, you look. Amazing.
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Also, like, maybe she doesn't like kissing him with the mustache because it tickles. A little tickle. I don't love that.
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But I would prescribe, like. Yeah, same. Speaking into a phone and getting him to, you know.
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Or how to get my boyfriend to shave. I have an idea. This is so toxic. You need to start like subtly making comments about celebrity guys that are hot and all of them are shaved.
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It's like this guy's so hot, this guy's so hot and then he'll start to put together that they're all shaved.
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Yeah, Phil Collins is the hottest. What song does he have? I'm on my way.
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That's good. Day drinking. Day drinking, not day drinker, which you're starring in. You haven't shot that yet, no?
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Talk about a deep cut. My boyfriend never stands up for me.
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Have you ever been in a situation like that before?
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She says, my boyfriend never stands up for me. We've spoken about it before, and he's just scared about people's opinions on him a lot. He says he's all in with me, and I love him to death, but when his friends literally give me shit for no reason and he sits there, it hurts like a bitch. Angry puss. So just break up.
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Cause like he, if he's not ready to stand up for you, he's not ready for a relationship.
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He values his own, his own, uh, like self image above you.
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Penelope Cruz is in it, right? Yes. She's awesome. I love her.
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I'm trying to get more into movies and music to become an intellect like you, Jake, because I had this whole thing when I was an intellect. But IDK, where to start? What is essential viewing and listening to start becoming a more intellectual? So I actually always have this answer. Watch, this is what I've been trying to do, all the nominees for Best Picture for the Academy Awards this year.
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That way- It's just, like, it's almost like a clean slate.
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It's all topical. You can talk about it with anyone, and they will think you're smart.
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Also, like, get into, like, Phoebe Bridgers, like, you know, like, Lucy Dacus, like, singer-songwriter types, like, folk music. Like, that's intellectual.
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Yeah. No, yes, yes, yes. Reddit is good in that sense. It can also just be so gossipy.
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No, I look up, like, best Housewives of New York seasons ranked best to worst. Yes, 100%. And it'll give me lists with reasons.
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I took the guy I'm hooking up with to my sorority formal and this girl who he used to talk to came up to him and dumped a drink on his head. I'm feeling really awkward. Like, do I ask why or is this a sign to run?
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Yeah. Has that ever happened to any of you guys?
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Yes, so we were out at, was it a Margaritaville? No, where were we? That's so iconic. It was a Fat Tuesdays. We were at a Fat Tuesdays. Ruby Tuesdays? No, a Fat Tuesdays. I have never been to Fat Tuesdays before in my life. I've never heard of it. They have like little slushy machines full of alcohol. It's awesome.
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I don't know. I forget, but mine was blue raspberry. Yum. And this guy came up to us and started like basically like trash talking her boyfriends in sports terms. She said, okay. And flicked open her thing, her slushy and dumped it on his head. So that's the one time I've seen that happen. And it was electric. It was awesome. I was like, damn, that was cool.
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No, I just remember being like, everyone was like, I think Alex just dumped a drink on him. And I was like, I think she did too.
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And then she was like, yeah. And then we went to the next bar.
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Oh, yeah. Damn, I like this sound. Will you send that to me, Louise?
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Wait, I'm here. I'm sat. Please come. And I'm going to show up.
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Low key I think I'm starting to like my friend. I might be crazy but I keep looking at a friend I didn't find attractive before and thinking hear me out. But I know we would never do anything and we both crush on the same people so I hardly think he would ever like me back. Help.
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Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Okay. I think we should prescribe the song Can Friends Kiss by Camila Cabello.
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Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Bye, Camila Cabello. So I was with my boyfriend and he told me that he has booked a lad's holiday. I'm British. And he goes away on my birthday. Am I valid for being so, so upset or do I need to just get over it? Please help. You are so valid. It's not even funny. Her boyfriend booked a holiday on her birthday?
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Also, like, is he so insecure in his relationship with his guy friends that he's too embarrassed to be like, it's my girlfriend's birthday?
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I would prescribe a very intense conversation or a breakup.
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Respect is needed. I prescribe respect by Aretha Franklin.
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We have this girl who's been our friend for too long, and it's our sophomore year in college, and we need to drop her because it's exhausting and draining our social batteries. Never drop someone. How do we go about this since our formula is coming up and it's creating more problems? I would say dropping someone is so diabolical. Dropping someone as a group is not mean girl energy.
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You need to have a conversation. And it can't be like we feel this way. It's about you. I feel this way. Right. We because if it's we it's like you're going to you're ganging up.
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I prescribe not dropping her as a group and figuring out your shit individually.
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Actor. Yes. I also learned, yeah, and that you love to sit.
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Every single time. And also I learned that you have drama that you need to tell me about right after we wrap.
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Hello, my name is Penelope Cruz. I don't know how she would feel about it, but I'm really excited to meet her. You've never met her before? No. When did you start shooting? I...
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Are you going this year? Are you allowed to say?
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Are you, I do not surf. No. Okay. Are, is this the last season of Outer Banks?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
I've always just also been such a huge fan. So to have her on was just such so amazing. We've been planning it forever. I'm so excited for you guys to get to know her more. I know you see her in Outer Banks and Knives Out 2 and everything she does. But I'm really excited for you guys to watch this and hopefully like get to see what it's like to hang out with her because she is the most fun.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Well, maybe the pregnancy will lead down to like a reboot in 20, 30 years.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Yes. I can revisit it. Have you ever seen 90210? Oh, it's amazing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Was the single after The Work or before The Work?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Do you remember when she got her work done and in the episode, somebody literally acted like as if she got a body transplant? I think that was her family. Yeah, her family was like hysterically sobbing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
No, that's – but when I watched that one, I was like nine and I remember being like what – I didn't understand what was so bad about it, but I just remember –
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Her sitting there being like, I got my nose done, I got my ears done, I got this done, I got this done, and then they also wanted to do this, and then I did this, and her mom was like... And I got my boobs done, and then her mom was like... Like, just dead eyes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
There was this quote of someone being like, well, what do you say to people that don't like this? And she goes, then that's not for them.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
I don't know either. I think it was like all at once out of nowhere and like plastic surgery wasn't super talked about back then.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
It was, yes. And then the 2010s came and conquered and plastic surgery was like super open.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Agreed. Did we ever find out in the Hills what Heidi did to piss Lauren off so bad?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Yeah, she's like, I'll forgive you. Or what is it? I'll forgive you, but I want to forget you. Like, she has so many one-liners. I'm like, wait, was it that serious with Heidi?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Stay one. Or is she the one that also says like when Lala's taking her order and she goes like, I don't know, but I'll have a Prosecco.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Yes, yes, yes. It's that. It's that. It's so everything. I ran into her at some premiere and I remember being like, you're an icon.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
I've never seen Vanderpump from that. Wait, so are you a Bravo girl?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Are you, which season of the traders are you on?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
If you still don't have tickets to Live with Jake Shane, go to PassThatPuss.com, click Live with Jake Shane, and see if I'm coming to a city near you. To submit a Tell Me What's Wrong, go to PassThatPuss.com and click Tell Me What's Wrong and leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy. And yeah, I love you pussies. Enjoy the episode.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Have you seen season two? No. Neither have I, apparently. That's the best season. I'll watch it. Let's watch it together.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
I have like a date, maybe not date at 7 p.m., but I can't tell what it is, honestly. He like reached out on Raya, but I think it's a business meeting. I read it to someone. They were like, that's business. But I was DMing this hot guy and we were going back and forth. And then I was reading. He asked me on a ski date because I'm going to Aspen. And I thought that was like so cunt.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
And I was like, yeah, I don't know how to ski very well. But I was like, I will ski with you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Yeah. Well, I'm going into next weekend. Have you seen any of the housewives?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Atlanta early is the best. So good. New York early is good too. My issue is I always have to like really trudge through season one of those because it's like hard.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Because it's hard. But the thing about the housewives is Once you start to realize the game in which it's played, it's like you view it so differently.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 62: Madelyn Cline
Like you're like, okay, so each of the housewives brings in dirt about the other housewives. And then the other housewives have to play with how they bring that up in front of the camera. But Lisa was the best at that. Do you remember when Lisa like stuck the tabloid in Brandy's suitcase or like –
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Hi, pussies, and welcome back to Therapus. Today, we have a dear friend on again, my first guest ever, Tate McRae. Her third studio album, So Close to What, comes out...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Did you see that? Did you wake up to that this morning?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
It's pretty crazy. Like, I'm not going to lie. You're like, 40 to 22, eagles. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Well, you know that, like, writing stuff down is actually a method of manifesting.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Like, I used to, when I wanted to hook up with this guy named Bleep It, I would write on repeat. Like, I think I have it in my diary 30 times over. I actually did see him one more time, and never again after that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
No, I saw, I kept texting him, like, please, I want to see you. Please, I want to hang out. Jake! And he was, like, literally... lose my number.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
He has a new boyfriend that he brought all around Europe, so.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Well, what's your family's reaction to Nostalgia when you played it for them? Were you nervous to play it for them?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Well, I thought it was a really beautiful ender to the album.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Because it's like... It's kind of beautiful. Well, it is beautiful, but it's kind of beautiful in the sense that, like, the whole album is about, like, the whole theme is, like, so close to what. So you're, like, constantly thinking about, like, this, that, this, like, what am I reaching towards? What am I going towards? And then at the end of it, you have this nostalgia.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
You kind of, like, forget everything along the way.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I think it's such a beautiful way to end the album. Thank you. And, like, finish the train of thought you created.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Cheers to So Close to What and the Miss Possessive World Tour.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I do. I really, it's Tate. Like I cannot, I know I'm like jumping all over the place, but it's because I really just spent this entire weekend with this album on repeat. I'm like, it, it seriously is.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Super Bowl weekend. It seriously is. I listened to it on the way to my work, the workout today. Like it seriously is like, it's so cohesive. It's so like realized. It's so smart. It's so like cunty. Like, all, like, the references are there. Like, it's just such a beautiful body of work. And I'm so proud of you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I really am. Like, it is so awesome. And I kept thinking I'm so fucking excited to see this live.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Is it going to be, like, similar to Think Later Tour? Or, like, what, like, is it going to be, like, different? I mean, you're doing way bigger venues.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Is there a song you're like most excited to perform?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Wait, but, like, I think it's, like, a funny bit if it happens.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
No, that's, hey, I need everyone to whisper. Okay.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
whisper i'm gonna be mortified on stage you're just gonna be like wait you're literally gonna be like sweet stop guys i'm like restart um so but i think that one will be fun oh i'm so excited is there there was a song i was listening to and i was like oh the dance break oh miss possessive the dance break for that is gonna eat yeah miss possessive will be fun which other ones blood on my hands will be fun
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I just, like, you and, like, Flo Millie, like, trade verses really well. Thank you. Like, it's, like, really, like, it really works. Thank you. It feels like, I don't know, I just, I really, really like it. It's just, like, so, such a hit. Like, it's such a, like, Blood on My Hands to me is such, like, a certified, like, undeniable hit.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Hi, pussies. Welcome back to Therapus. Today, we have one of my best friends, which I never get tired of saying. She is one of the biggest pop stars in the world right now. Her third studio album, So Close to What, is out tomorrow, so the 21st, at midnight. Tate McRae.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Sometimes the worst things that can happen lead to like the best pieces of art.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
It is. I'm dead ass serious. Everything happens for a reason.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Because, like, it's just, it's, like, what was, like, I didn't even, we haven't even spoken about, like, what was it like, like, working, like, did you, were you in the, you were in the studio together, no?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
over the phone right like you'll send in a verse and like yeah they've never been like real get in the studio so that was at least I was like comfortable with him yeah so it wasn't that scary but it was definitely a first for me that song is so fucking catchy it's really catchy it's really good thank you Peyton was also addicted to that one really addicted we were addicted to the whole album but there were two songs that Peyton kept going back to and it was Miss Possessive and I Know Love really yeah interesting
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Yeah, but the reason I know this album is so fucking good is because it really does change on the day. Right. Like, well, I guess you renamed it to, what was it? It was Means I Care.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
That one is like, was my favorite today. Like it really like. Interesting. Yes. It just really like like what was your like overall like aesthetic that you were going for with the album?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I fucking love that album. But yeah. Is there any, like, what's your favorite? I was so excited to ask you this. What's your favorite lyric on the album? If you have one.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I love the one where you say, like, did my dance on your lap make you nervous? Because when you think about it in relation to the media, and you're, like, dancing on their lap metaphorically, so cool.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Right. I think that's, what's so beautiful about that song is that it can be interpreted. And just like the whole album is all, they can be interpreted in so many different ways. Are you excited to see how everyone takes each song?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I can't believe the speed at which you make music. Same. Whenever somebody asks me about you, I'm like... The only thing besides that you're like the sweetest and the funniest and the best friend is that you work harder than anyone I know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Yeah, but isn't that, like, so fucking cool that, like, everybody got to grow up with you, like, through your music?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I'm so excited for everyone to hear it. Is there any song that you were nervous to put on?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Oh, yeah, the pony look. Your hair was very straight.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I just thought you were talking about the horse.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
And then when you said that the hair was blown out, I was like, wait, that doesn't make sense because the hair was straight with the horse.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Oh, my God. Are you... Is there any song you're like... Like, do you have all the choreography down for every one of the songs of tour yet or now? When does tour start?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
So, okay. Like we have so much to get into.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I honestly feel like people underestimate how quickly, oopsie just spilled everywhere. I feel like people underestimate how quickly you learn a dance.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Like I remember, uh, uh, standing at MSG and Tanya was like, I'm like so excited for it's okay. I'm okay. They just learned the choreo yesterday. And I was like, what?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
No, no one was going to let that happen though.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
No, I was scared that you weren't going to be able to see me and I was also scared. Like, I don't know what I was, I was just scared about it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Where did that come from? Because I remember when you came up with it. Yeah. But where, like, where did that come from? And like, what else was like in competition for title? Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
We nailed it. And we also like, I remember running to your dressing room right before the show started and I was like, Okay, so what are we going to do? And you're like, okay, this, that, and the third. I was like, okay, bye.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
And it's so based in synchronization as well. Like, for all of you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
It was so visual in the sense that, like, you're all doing the same thing, like, kind of in, like, a line. You're all... Like, you know what I mean?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
It was so sick. And I was so excited to see the headset moment realized. I know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
You know what you did that show that was the sickest recovery I've ever seen in my entire life? When the mic was slipped out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
And it somehow you ran up, picked it up, came back, had a moment to like pose.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
And then like got back into the choreography. And I just remember everyone was so impressed. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Because that's how well it worked. It, like, slipped out. You ran down, picked it up, had a second to pose, and then what? It was, like, so sick.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
You were nervous. I've never seen you get nervous for a single show ever. You were nervous for MSG.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
It was also just such a big deal that you sold out MSG and, like, we're doing MSG. Like, it was such a big deal. It was so cool.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Like, that's intense. I hung out with the fam the whole night.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
You were like, he's seen so many of my shows, but he really liked that one.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Oh, and that's like hard for grandparents, I feel like.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
When you work with someone and it's like that it's like oh I see why you're so successful.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
You know what I mean. It's like I see what I see why this works.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I do. You know everything. And it's funny because last time we did this, I actually didn't know everything. No.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
We were really close, but I would say we got a lot closer in the past year. A hundred percent. I was with you every single day for a certain period of time, so I was really knowing what was good.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Well, there's a song that I made Tate make once, and she'll never release it, but it's amazing, so... Oh, One Track Mind?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I guess tomorrow at midnight now and we talk a lot about that personally it's my favorite work that she's ever done I think it's so cohesive and amazing and just god I just I'm so excited for everyone to hear how amazing it is so incredible um But yeah, in terms of me, we just announced the dates that Connor will be joining us for on Live with Jake Shane. You can see them on my Instagram.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
The best song ever. There was a situation one day, and Tate was so angry about it, and I was like, girl, put that shit in the music.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
You made this amazing song, and I don't know if it'll ever see the light of day, but it's called One Track Mind, and if you see it, know that it's my favorite song.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
You were furious, and you were like, oh, I just can't. I feel bad. And I was like, it's fine.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I was like, you... You need to just go to the studio and you need to let it out and be a bad bitch and you need to not feel bad about it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Because you are so caring and you're so empathetic and you're always like feeling bad about like, and you're like, you're always like taking care of everyone else's feelings. I'm like, no, no, no. You have to take care of your feelings right now. And if that means making a song that everybody in the world is going to hear, then that's what that means.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Should we get into the tell me what's wrongs?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Go pee. Tinder is back and it's easier than ever to put yourself out there. Whether you're looking for a one-time hookup or a long-term relationship, Tinder is there for you. Real connections happen every day on Tinder and a new relationship starts every three seconds. Long story short, Tinder is...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
where it's at right now it all starts with a swipe and you won't know if you don't try and I know a lot of you are single just like me and I really feel like tinder is the perfect place to find love it's cuffing season it's it's time we need you know dating apps are the new meeting people in bars it's just we're in a digital generation it's a digital age and I think if you're not
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
actively trying to find love, you can't expect love to always find you. Last week was Valentine's Day, and once again, I spent it alone. So I know I will be on Tinder, swiping left and right to make sure I find the one. Tinder gives you the freedom to meet people your way, whatever that looks like. So if you're waiting for a sign, this is it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Explore all the possibilities for yourself on Tinder today. It all starts with a swipe. Download Tinder today.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Well, first, we have to do what you're a therapist about today.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Do you want me to go first with what I'm angry about? Yeah, go. Do you have what you're angry about?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Okay, what am I angry about? I'm angry about... I hate the feeling of being gaslit and having it work. Like, I hate when someone tells me I'm wrong when I know I'm right. Okay. But I convince myself then. Then I'm like, oh, I'm wrong. Okay. It's the most defeating feeling in the entire world when you come at something with such strength and such, like, I'm upset about this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Like, I'm really angry. And they come back at you with, like, actually, that's incorrect. Your anger is wrong. That is... Yeah. And then I'm also angry about... Not much. I'm really happy you're here. You don't get angry about much.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
It's always bubbling under, but you're always really able to brush it aside.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Well, your mom driving your car and not unlocking your door.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I need to listen to your album with you in your car.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Because I will crash. And like, I mean, back in the day, I would have told you no because I liked extracurricular activities a little too much. And I was like, I was always...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
smoking yes okay but I actually quit weed I know I'm so proud of you thank you so much yeah I mean like there was a point where I was literally like bitch do I just show up high to the workout and she was like no yeah so that's when I knew I had a problem and I quit but um I yeah I just like I don't know can you would you get in the car with me I don't know yeah would you get in a car with me would you get in a car with me I don't know
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I'm also really short, and I feel like that's... Yes, that's what I'm more scared of. That's what I said, and someone tried to tell me... Someone tried to tell me the other day that being short wasn't a problem with driving, and I'm like, I feel like it is.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
It's like I need to drive, like, a Mini Cooper. And, like, I don't want to drive a Mini Cooper, goddammit. You would drive a minicoot. Yeah, I would. Like a little pod car.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
And I would just float around Los Angeles in my little pod car.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
It won't even fit my luggage because it's so small.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
You know, before Therapus, do you remember this? I said I was going to do a show where it was like different people teaching me how to drive.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Okay. That makes sense because it didn't really live to see the light of day.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
But we did one episode with Nebra and Julian and it ended up just being carpool karaoke.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
So we were like, oh, we have to scrap this. This isn't working. Right. This isn't working.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I learned how to drive around a parking lot and I was like, this is really scary. Like, I'm scared.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Wait, you're a good driver, though. Why were you failing it six times?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I understand that. You're, like, imagining the worst case scenario.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Before we get into the tell me what's wrongs, since we've like done these almost like a year apart.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
What do you think has changed the most in the past year?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Because like when we just left the room, Louise was like seeing how you guys like handle yourselves on camera in the past. Like, right. And the difference in the past year is night and day.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Right, like we're still doing the same thing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Right. And I think you are, I think you're like, like a lot more confident in your craft.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Like you're always confident in your craft, but like you're, you're more unapologetic with it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I don't, you're more like, like, okay. Like a year ago you were like, Yes, no, do I, do I, do I, do I. And now you're like, I'm doing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
You were. And now you're like more like, this is what I'm doing. Like tag along or get lost.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
And then you've now, like, I mean, you're doing Radio City this year. Thank you. That means a lot. Because do you remember all those conversations we'd have in the sauna where I was, like, tweaking as fuck?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
fuck about certain business things yeah of course and now I'm I also think like I'm a little more you're way more sure of yourself I'm way more sure of my decisions yeah and now like I'm like I'm gonna do it but it's crazy how necessary like those kind of changes are in order to take a bigger step forward you inspired me in a lot of really yes wow you actually I think about you all the time thank you I'm not kidding you guys because you make decisions that are good for you like like
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
When it comes to your art, you've changed a lot in the sense that like you're way less apprehensive, but you've never been apprehensive about like the decisions you make for your business and what you do.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
You've always been like, this is what I'm going to do because this is good for me and my business.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I have to do eyes every time where it's bad luck. I'd say bad sex, but I don't do that, so.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Here we go. This one night stand I had has turned into a dead ass one week stand. Must be nice. This guy has basically lived with me for the past five days. We really clicked and I might be developing some feelings. But should I kick him out? Because that's a little strange. No help. I am confused.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
She wants to. She doesn't know how she feels. And I actually know exactly what to prescribe.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Yes, that's what she's saying. Jake. No, that's what she's saying. That's what, because you're saying in the song, you're like, if I spend six nights with you, it's because it's convenient.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Right. And she's saying like, I'm scared. That's like actually so perfect, Nolan. Wow. She's saying like, she's saying like, I'm scared. I'm developing feelings like.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I remember you, can I say, Greenlight was supposed to be the first single. Yes. It was, I remember that was the first song I heard from the entire project. Yes. Was Greenlight, and that was supposed to be the first single, and then it was It's Okay, I'm Okay.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Oh, well, yes. He's been staying with you for a week, so maybe it's time to, like, hug him.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
you gotta ask him how he feels though what if he likes her back if he's there for five nights straight he probably doesn't just like think of her as a one night hook up I'm so excited for that to eventually happen to me one day where it's like I spend one night with someone and I live with them for a week after I think it will happen I think this year yeah you know I'm going on a date when I go to Aspen I'm going on a date a ski date whoa are you guys like what does that entail
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I don't know. He was like, here, do you want me to read you the messages?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Where's my phone? You're going to gag at the messages.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
What should I do? Also, P.S., please tell Tate McRae that I cannot wait for So Close to What, and that album is going to win a Grammy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Should I focus on a girlfriend or on school? I regret not focusing on my love life and only focusing on school.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
As Nicki Minaj would say, stay in school, Barbz.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I will say I do regret, like, not focusing on my love life at all in school. I didn't focus on it at all. And the first guy... Okay, the first guy I ever spoke to on Grindr when I was 18... 18 years old, I saw him last weekend. I literally looked and I said, that's him.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
No, he was with his boyfriend. And I said, oh my God, that's him.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
You've been working on this album for so long.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I actually, sometimes, like, okay, so sometimes I, like, feel it in the moment, like, when I'm, like, really shaking and, like, this, that, and the third. But, like, it's different with, like, cardio because you're, like, you feel yourself, like, really getting snatched while doing the cardio.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Sometimes during Pilates you don't feel yourself getting snatched, but then, like, a day later you're, like, I'm kind of snatched.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
No, it's not. It's just, like. Sometimes, like, I try to keep up with, like, you or, like, someone I'm with. And, like, that's hard. Because, like, I'm not as flexible. But, like, I would say it's, like, so... At the end of the day, it's also, like, I feel, like, very peaceful.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I think it's great for you. And I would suggest starting it. And don't be ashamed if you start and are shaking. Because I still shake and I'm two years in.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I agree. And sometimes I avoid Pilates because it's hard.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
It's just like because I'm like, I've gotten so into like weightlifting.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I love it. You remember you walked into the gym the other day and I was like.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Dude, this album? Okay, so I spent the entire weekend with this album, and Tate, I cannot emphasize how good it is.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I keep having dreams of my ex trying to get back together with me. I can confidently say my subconscious doesn't still like him because I genuinely would rather never kiss someone again than be with him ever again. What does this mean and what do I do?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I feel like it's your brain just ruminating on, like, a what-if situation.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I would prescribe, have you ever seen the movie, what is it, Sliding Doors? You would love this movie. I think it's with Gwyneth Paltrow. It's like Julia's favorite movie. And it's like basically, have you seen that movie? You would love it, Tate.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
It's like, so basically it's about like. So there's this train and Gwyneth Paltrow either gets on the train or she doesn't get on the train. And the entire movie is if she gets on the train or if she doesn't get on the train.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
So the entire movie is like a what if, but it ends. Sorry, spoiler alert. Both. I actually can't. You haven't even seen it. I can't spoil it. Watch the movie.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Yeah. And I think that'll tell this person a lot about what they need to know. But I think it's also important to remember that just because you're thinking about it doesn't make it true. As someone with OCD and who's constantly has like the craziest intrusive thoughts, like just because it's in your mind doesn't mean it's true.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
And like sometimes I saw this the other day that was like emotions are like, like people on the street, like, you can acknowledge them and let them pass without having to, like, attach to each one of them.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Front to back, like on repeat all day, every day. Like it seriously, like it was just so like sexy and it was so much. It was like, so like all your work is always confident and sexy, but it was like so much more confident and sexy than anything you've ever done. And like, it was so good. It's so good. And it's so like new. Everything you're doing is so much newer than anything you've ever done.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I know. It didn't change my life because I don't listen, but, like, it's... But you did see it. I did see it. My mom is dating one of my teachers and I'm so scared the kids at my school are going to find out because that's so embarrassing. No, it's not. Also, they kissed in front of the school when she came to pick me up and my friend saw them.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
So now she knows and I'm scared she's going to tell everyone. Well, first of all, if you ask your friend not to tell people and they do, that's not your friend.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Second of all, it's not embarrassing that your mom is dating one of your teachers. And I know that this happened in a show that I watched and I cannot remember for the life of me what show it was.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I think it's awesome. Yeah. Oh, maybe it was. Have you ever seen 90210? No. You would. I'm not. I'm seriously not even kidding. Have you ever seen 90210? No. Yep, that is exactly what I'm thinking of. It is the best. Tate, I'm serious. When you go home, if you have free time, watch 90210.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
And I remember the show you were telling me to watch.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Because Tate and I were, we were walking down the street the other day and I was like, what show were you telling me to watch the other day? And Tate was like,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Okay. You will be down bad for 90210. Okay. My roommate threw away my pet hamster because she didn't like the sound of his wheel. Oh, my God. She fully admitted to my other roommates that she did this, but is telling me he just ran away. What the fuck do I do about this?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Honest to God, I feel like that's not legal.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Like, if you're down, like, get animal control and law enforcement involved.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
That is, oh my God, if my friend threw away my hamster.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I'd be like, wait, you actually are like a psychopath. You need help.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I would be like, you're a psychopath. So I'm in a friend group that loves to go out, but I don't because I have so much anxiety and IDKY. But I feel like I'm missing out on a fun college experience. Should I just suck it up?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Maybe this person is like around the maybe I feel like these the people that this person is around wants to go out like all the time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
And maybe a part of them is like anxious that they are like I can't commit to being like a full partier but like I will have like my nights here and there. Yeah. And maybe it's just like the people that they're around.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I will also say that like there was a period of my life where I wasn't going out at all because I was so anxious. And then all it takes is like one time where you go out and you like bite the bullet and you like – and at the end of the day, you can always go home.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
You can always go home. You can always leave. Yeah. And you never know if you don't try. Like if you're in college and you're – You're always going to be wondering, like, what if? Just try. And if you hate it, then be like, I was right and I hated it. But who knows? You might love it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
And I have a friend that experienced that, and it's not a fun feeling.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
And if you're telling yourself you're only going out because you're scared... Like, just go out. Try something new that... I used to have this painting in my room and it was...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
a pool lap and everyone was swimming towards the finish line but there was one person that swam outside of the lap yeah and it was like supposed to inspire me to like step out of my comfort zone yeah and be the person who takes a risk yeah and like swims out of the lap yeah but like I think you should try to go out one night you don't have to drink you don't have to do anything yeah see if you like it and if you don't then you were right and yeah just try just try you're only young once you're you are only young once
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I have a clinical obsession with biting my toenails and it's getting weird, I think. But my partner just found me doing it the other night and is more weird.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I think I wrote this. You wrote this? Well, like, that's how I speak. I'm like, I think that's weird. But my partner just found me doing it the other night and is more weirded out than he should be.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Can I say it also felt different to me, too? Interesting. It felt, like, full steam ahead.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
No, it's toenails. You're right. That's fucking weird. If I saw someone biting their toenails, I'd be like, you need help.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Fingernails is one thing. Toenails is actually disgusting.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Yeah, and like, maybe get a pacifier. That's just also not
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
No. I once saw something that said biting your fingernails is equivalent to licking a toilet seat.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
No, we've given amazing advice, and we've given real advice.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
So my best friend is turning too boy crazy where all she does is talk about boys. I can be like, oh, I want ice cream. And she'll bring up a guy she's talking to loving ice cream. Ew.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
This is my best friend ever. Like, future maid of honor, but sometimes I just want to be like, quit the boy talk 24-7. So if this is your best friend, you can say that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
And if you can't say that, then this isn't your best friend.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I said, she's like, my best friend won't shut the fuck up about boys. And like, this is my best friend, future maid of honor, like everything, this, that, and third. But I'm scared to tell her that she needs to shut the fuck up.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
You're not beating around the bush at all. Like, it's like, oh, like. You're saying it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
She prescribes an episode of Sex and the City.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Should we go through them and see if we can prescribe any of them?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Well, Means I Care was the best prescription I came up with the entire episode. That was good.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I want my eyebrow pierced, but I'm worried my mom will disown me. Should I do it anyway? Oh, your cushion is off. I was like, something feels wrong.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Like, were you nervous when you got like a, like when you were like, when I, were you, were you ever nervous to get like a piercing or like your tooth jam? Were you nervous that Tanya was going to be like, what the fuck?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I loved, I just like, the opener is so strong, Miss Possessive.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I still haven't gotten a tattoo. Have you gotten a tattoo?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
As Kim Kardashian once said, you don't put bumper stickers on a Bentley.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I think that this person should get an eyebrow piercing and worry about the mom later just because a piercing isn't permanent.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Yeah, keep it in for a little, figure it out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Get that piercing. Yeah. Nothing's wrong, but I just saw this question on Brett's Instagram. Plus, I need your take. If you had to play one song to turn a non-Swifty into a Taylor fan, what would you play them?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I saw a tweet the other day that was like, Style is the greatest pop song literally I've heard ever.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Yeah. Like, play them Style if they haven't heard it. I would play them. My favorite is The Archer.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
It's my favorite. I always play, I always, play them the song that you feel most passionate about because I think what people, what really turns people on to Taylor Swift, but just like an artist in general is passion.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
She's like, that's my favorite. Really? Yes. I was like, I love this. She was like, kept repeating it again and again and again and again and again because I love the, can you keep it, keep up, keep it, keep up.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
So like if you feel passionate about something and you can talk about it, that will be attractive to someone else.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
But it's also about like... You're so poetic, Jake.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Once again, we're perfect and we're awesome.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
That's what I was going to say. We grew a lot, like emotionally.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I learned a lot about the album that I thought I knew, but I didn't know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I didn't know that Purple Lace Bra was about the media.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Or I didn't know that it could be perceived as such.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Well, it's about a bunch of different things. Yeah. You know what I learned? I learned that Purple Lace Bra is not as straightforward as I thought.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
And a lot of songs on the album are not as straightforward as I thought.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Well, So Close to What is out February 21st. It's the best album I've ever heard in my life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
And I'm so excited for everyone to hear it. Tate, I can't wait to do this again next year.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Well, that's – and I also loved – Well, can we talk purple lace bra?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Because what it means is something entirely different than what I thought it meant.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I thought it was about a man. I thought it was about a man in your life. And the actual meaning of it, I think, makes it... I mean, besides Signs, it's my favorite song on the album, but... It makes it so much, it has, it makes it have so much more depth, your meaning of it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
So I'm super, super excited to tour with Connor. He's going to live on the bus with us. It's going to be really, really fun. God, what else? I watched the season premiere of White Lotus. I'm watching Paradise on Hulu. I'm obsessed. I actually recently just got into the new Porter Robinson album that he released last year. I really, really like it. I think that's everything that's new with me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I know how frustrating it is for you. I see it all the time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
You're also, like, so, like... Like, their 20s is, like, such an age where, like, everyone's opinion seems like it matters.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Do you know what I mean? Totally. At least that's, like, I don't know if that, like, I feel like that, we feel like we both share that feeling where it's, like, everyone's opinion matters at all time. But it's so different for you because you, I always, I've always said this to you, like, as a pop star, like, you are, like, you, it requires you to, like, really bear yourself.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
like metaphorically like like you're like being like sexy and stuff but no i'm serious when you're getting like everyone's opinions and you're like sexy and stuff and like everyone's commenting on the video and this that the third you're like oh my god shut the fuck up yeah yeah it is yeah am i wrong like what is so funny no you are right it is like it doesn't back feel like that jake Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Not me as much as like you, like you bear so much of your life, so much of your life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
And like music that you have to perform every single night to a bunch of different people.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Do you ever feel like one bad comment outweighs a thousand good ones?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
If I seem a little out of it, it's because I had a protein bar at 11 a.m. It's now 2 p.m., and I thought it would somehow hold me over. It obviously has not, and now I'm like, So hungry, I can't see anything. So I think I'm going to go. You know that Shailene Woodley meme that's like, you should probably eat. That's like how I feel right now. So I'm going to probably go eat. But enjoy the episode.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
I know, but sometimes it's almost like you're like, It's like your anxiety is like telling you it's there and your anxiety isn't going to shut up until you find it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
sometimes I'm like I don't know anything same you know a lot I feel the same um okay so can you I'm just like I need to go through like every song on this album yeah which we do it's just like we talk every single day so it's like every question I have has been answered you know what I would like to talk about
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
leak when that album got leaked yeah when because you because you put so much of yourself in that for so many months like take me through that night how how it went down how you found out well um i was in new york and i got a dm i was taking a bath and i got i got a dm from one of my fans and they were just like girl the whole album leaked
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
There's nothing. And that's the worst feeling in the entire world when there's nothing you can do. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
It's amazing. Stream so close to what? Out tomorrow at midnight, the 21st. And make sure to get tickets to see Tate live on the Miss Possessive World Tour. Okay, enjoy the episode. I love you, pussies. We're back. We're back. You know, you're my first guest ever. That's crazy. And I'm pretty sure my green room was a few boxes and a plastic chair.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
it is okay and like everyone did a really good job at like making sure like it went away and I feel like your fans are so good about that too and like yeah they were sweet about it I saw online like a bunch of stuff about like them like I feel like that's so like you that you found out through your fan is such a testament to the community you know and they're and they're like I don't want to listen to it yet and I'm like oh that like
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
And the only thing you can do is come back from it, which you have. And you did sports car that week.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
It was really cheeky of me. It just feels like this album is so much more you than anything you've ever done because you're like being so honest.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 58: Tate McRae Returns
Like on signs, you're like saying like everything I say, you cannot take literally because I mean the literal exact opposite. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Yes. I actually, since I was a kid, I can't work out. This sounds horrible without someone telling me what to do.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
I can't. I don't think you're alone in that. I can't do it. I used to do SoulCycle when I was in seventh grade because I was like, I need to work out somehow and I can't.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Like, but I, I think I created it without thinking like, like, I don't know. Like I need, like I need people to tell me what to do or I, I'm not going to do it. It was like, But I can, I can be my own boss and I can, it was kind of like that way, like with homework in high school. Like at first I was like, I can't do this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
But then when I realized I had to get into college, I was like, oh, so now I think I need like an extra. Where did you go to college? USC.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Full four. How was it? It was really, really fun for the first two years. The best time ever. I was like the Kappa sweetheart or the Kappa key man.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Yeah. And so I had a lot of fun the first two years. Then COVID hit. COVID hit at the end of my sophomore year, right when I was like, am I having fun anymore? Because my whole life was going out. That was my whole life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Yeah, but also like right as it got taken away, I was feeling like I wasn't down anymore.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
So I was like, okay. And then junior year started. We were all on campus or off campus living, but we weren't going out because it was COVID. Yeah. But I was working at a record label at the time. I just fell in love with it. And I fell in love with like the music industry and the music business. And then I became, that's kind of like what my last two years of college became encompassed by.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Well, I was born in LA. I grew up in New York, but I summered here. My parents now live here. Cool. I think close to where you grew up. You grew up in Pasadena.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Right, right. I think that's a great area. Do your parents still live there? No.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
That is, yeah, that is a trifecta, right? I wasn't like so far off.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Bad and green means the ticket is better or good. So SeatGeek makes it super easy to have a really simple concert or comedy show or Broadway play live event going experience. Live music and just live events in general are, I think, great. literally the backbone of happiness in our society. They are really where art comes to life in such a beautiful way and such a fun setting.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
How long have you been vegetarian for? My whole life. Your whole life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Yeah. You know, I don't think it's all that it's cracked up to be.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
And so you got it finally. How good, what were your toppings?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Are you? No, but like, is your like, are your ancestries like.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
No, but like, but like, are you like, if you're like, where's your family from? Yeah. British?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Speaking of Irish, Irish things and Irish people, have you seen that new show Say Nothing? No.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Cheers. with our feet actually guess what say nothing's on fx fx so yeah it's about um i think i could be totally wrong louise can you fact check me i think it's about the first woman in like the irish republic army yeah period nailed it and you like it so i did fall asleep I did fall asleep, but I always fall asleep. So that's not a thing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
I always fall asleep while I'm watching a show, and I know that if I watch it, I will love it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Wait, but is what she say was good. She's mainly said it was gross.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
So what movies have you seen recently that you're like, I just watched Saturday night.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
I loved touring, so I now have a newfound appreciation for it. I always appreciated it, but I really do have a newfound appreciation for it. So yeah, the code is THERAPUS10, 10% off. And thank you SeatGeek for sponsoring this episode. Without further ado, I present to you, Phineas. You have gorgeous eyes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
How was the Miley song in it? Doesn't she have a song in there?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
I'm really excited to see it. But are you watching any TV? I'm a big TV guy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
What is she in? She's not in Freaks and Geeks. She's in... Romeo and Juliet? No.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Okay, speaking of Claudia quickly, what... Please. I watched your music video for Crying Out Loud. Yeah. Incredible. Thanks. That's not the first time you've worked with Claudia. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
And she did film it. Great. Yeah. And what's it like working with your partner?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
And is it, like, fun on set to, like... I'm no fun on set.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Yeah, so true. It's awesome. You're so caffeinated. I know. I know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
With me, Jake Shane. Hi, pussies. Welcome back to Therapus. Today, we have, honestly, such an exciting guest. Phineas is here, who I'm such a major fan of, and it was such an honor and a pleasure to get to speak to him. But before we get into that, I just got back from Alex's birthday weekend in Key West. I have never been to Key West. And I also have never been to a Fat Tuesdays.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Do you also think that, like, because when you're projecting, you're finding other issues on the set? It's all internal.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
I also... Project. I'm very insecure. Like, the most insecure ever. And I... everyone around me will know when I'm insecure so this actually happens every day but I'll find a battle to fight like I'll pick a battle I'll pick a fight and that'll be like where I'll direct my insecurity for the day but I think the first step for us is recognizing that WAP we have a problem
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Okay, can I say something? Sure. I know. It's like my favorite. It's my favorite part of myself. Do you have like a favorite part of yourself?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
That is so rude. How do you handle that in the moment?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
You don't say anything. I would, I would text them after and be like, or I would have like a friend text them. I'd have a messenger.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
But fishbowl only works when you are with people that like, you know, like you pick the most random person in your life. And like, it's like an inside joke.
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And they know exactly who you're talking about, but it doesn't work with people. You don't know.
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So it's like the Marvel Cinematic Universe for housewives. Sure, sure, sure. So you have, okay, so, okay. Are you down for me to explain this to you? Yeah, of course. You've never had this explained to you before.
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Session 49: Finneas
Okay, totally. It's on the network Bravo, right? Okay, I know about Bravo. Like the Supreme, you ever watch American Horror Story Coven?
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Is that like learning another language? Like learning how to play the piano and like all of those things?
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Cool, so there's like a supreme witch. The supreme of Bravo is Andy Cohen.
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No. What show was she on? Was it Salt Lake? Can you Google this? Can someone Google this?
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I don't know how, I mean, he must film, he must film so many in a day.
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Come over for one of your small gatherings? Yeah, absolutely.
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Session 49: Finneas
And you know what? I'll take it really fucking seriously.
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Session 49: Finneas
Yes, yeah. They always believe. They're hard on me. What do your parents do? My mom's a journalist.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Yeah. Did you ever watch, like, Switching Goals, Model Behavior?
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Session 49: Finneas
You know Smart House? Yeah. He didn't know Hannah Montana. Did your dad write Hannah Montana? No, but he doesn't know Hannah Montana. At all?
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Session 49: Finneas
So funny you say that. Spongebob was playing as my mom gave birth.
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Session 49: Finneas
No, and you are like the millionth person to ask me that.
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Session 49: Finneas
I think it was just like on the TV in the hospital or something.
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Session 49: Finneas
I also totally could be lying. Sometimes I take things that my parents say and like just run with it.
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Session 49: Finneas
I find history fascinating when it's like a mystery. I love a mystery. I love unexplained. Like the Lindbergh baby. Sorry?
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Session 49: Finneas
There we go. We're back to it. I still would like to do it.
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Session 49: Finneas
You have Andy Cohen. So he is in charge of all these different franchises of housewives, right? So it starts off, it started off- He's in charge? Yeah. No, he's in charge. He's the boss. Okay. And it started off with the Real Housewives of Orange County, right? That was the first Housewives franchise to ever exist. It became successful. Then there was New York, New Jersey. Then you had Atlanta.
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Session 49: Finneas
Utah. I know there's Utah. Salt Lake. Salt Lake is like the new baby that's like revived the Housewives. You can't even fucking imagine what goes down on that fucking show. Someone got arrested by the FBI on camera. Awesome. On camera. And she ran. She ran. On camera. Salt Lake City is the pinnacle of reality television right now. Do you watch reality TV ever?
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Session 49: Finneas
No, I've never seen Wife Swap. Is that the one where it's like, they are a Christian!
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Yeah, so they aren't Christian. You know what I'm talking about?
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I'm seriously telling you, like, some of the greatest minds in the world love housewives.
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Rihanna, obsessed with housewives. Jennifer Lawrence, obsessed with housewives. It's so good.
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Session 49: Finneas
No. And actually, you want to know the reason why I almost failed out of Spanish in college? Because I saw Billy and you perform at Coachella in 2019.
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I know that it's like, it's real. And it's also like, they all come in with like storylines about each other. Like they're all trying to expose each other's real life because like, that's the game for them. It's like, this is our job. Like, like we're creating storylines, but we're, it's like so immoral almost like we're creating storylines out of everyone else's life.
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Session 49: Finneas
So there's multiple segues into becoming a housewife. So Andy could be casting for a new show in a new city, and he could have, like, one person help cast him. So, for example, when he was casting Real Housewives of New York City back in the day, Jill Zarin helped cast the entire show. Like, she helped him, like, pick who was going to be on it. And then also...
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when they're introducing someone as like maybe a castmate, they're going to be a friend of. So that's a friend of the housewife. That's going to appear on the episode, like stir some shit up and see how it lands with audiences. And if people are like, oh, I'm obsessed, then they're going to be a recurring, a recurring character. Wow.
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Session 49: Finneas
Look at you using all the terms. No, because like us Bravo girls, we say like, oh, they're on hiatus. But like... But like right now it's Beverly Hills season and Salt Lake season. Okay. Which are my two favorites.
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Salt Lake is like there are certain housewives that like you they know their fucking job like they know what they're supposed to do and they come in for blood.
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Because I was supposed to do a project and I could have gone home that Sunday because it was Sunday, right? Nope. It was Saturday. And I could have gone. But, you know.
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And that's like Salt Lake. If I were you, I would start with Salt Lake.
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Session 49: Finneas
My tour was amazing. I'm so glad. It was amazing. How long? It was 21 cities. That's a lot. It was a lot, and it turned into a very stand-up-y routine.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Yeah, but I was doing, like, the stand-up pace. Yeah, yeah. You know, like, you're walking, like, ah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Well, so we have this thing on the screen that says, tell me what's wrong, and audience members scan, and they tell us what's wrong.
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Session 49: Finneas
And then it's a crowd. That's like my crowd work section. So I'll go back and forth. And I do like no phones for that. So people can stand up if they like have something crazy to say. And like we'll go back and forth about it.
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Never out of control. Well, I did have a few times where there was hecklers.
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And I understand that's the territory with comedy. Sure. but I really need to work on not letting it phase me.
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Session 49: Finneas
Well, like somebody asked me like, who's the special guest as the show was winding down. And I said, me bitch. And then everyone cheered. So like, that was like my one good moment with the hecklers. But then like, other than that, I'm really bad at it.
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Session 49: Finneas
Have you ever had like a horrible experience with hecklers at a show?
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Session 49: Finneas
But then it's the comedian's job on there to make it play.
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Session 49: Finneas
So, like, some stuff I learned on the tour was, like, when someone's speaking to you, you have to repeat what they said. Repeat everything so that the audience can all hear it. But not only do you have to repeat it, you have to repeat it with, like, a certain comedic tone. Right, funnier. So that it's interesting.
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Session 49: Finneas
Anywho. Um, I do have a question for you. Okay. So you scored disclaimer. Yes. Okay. I'm fascinated with like music sinks and like how you sync music. Is that, that and scoring two different things?
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Session 49: Finneas
But, yeah, I love... Yeah, so this went super well for you. It went super well. We're routing for next year. Europe. We are. That's awesome. I think we're doing a few dates in what?
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Session 49: Finneas
Yeah, it was a lot. It was a lot. It was a lot. It was really, really fun though. Are you excited for your tour?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
No, like, why are they... The bus is so, like, physically big there.
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Session 49: Finneas
And are you, how is not touring? This is your first time not touring with Billy. Yeah. And how's that been?
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Session 49: Finneas
Oh, awesome. So she's not alone. No, and she likes her band.
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I know this is kind of random, but do you have like a favorite show you've ever played?
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Session 49: Finneas
You know what I find so fascinating that you say that is because when you said you're on set for a music video, you hate when things go wrong. But then when you're on stage.
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Session 49: Finneas
Me too. I loved it. So good. It kind of made me really sad though.
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Session 49: Finneas
I love it. I would say, like, my favorite shows are the ones where I feel like – usually it's the show that I would never expect to be, like – Memorable and fun. Like, we were in Toronto.
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Session 49: Finneas
Oh, and I – I had gone out the night before for my – I made a thing. Like, I drank on stage. It was, like, part of my bit. But, like, I never partied. I just didn't party on tour. And I partied the night before hard. Like, and I was so dead. And I got up on stage and the crowd, like, revived me. And that's the best.
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Session 49: Finneas
And it was like, it was like the, and I went completely off script off book, which changed the rest of my entire tour and doubled my set length. So like, it was like, it was just amazing. It was, I love being on stage. Um, Except I hate when I – when a joke misses. Bad feeling. Oh, my God. Like, it makes me want to crawl inside of my own skin.
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Session 49: Finneas
But my thing, my saving grace that I usually pull is I acknowledge that it missed.
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Session 49: Finneas
It appeals. I'm too scared. I'm really, really anxious. I don't think I could do it.
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Session 49: Finneas
Yeah. You know who's so good at that? Marcelo Hernandez.
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Session 49: Finneas
He is like comedy's brightest star. He's really good. Have you seen him do a standup set? No.
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Session 49: Finneas
Your life. He could just stand up there for three hours.
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Session 49: Finneas
Yeah. And like, I, I do need like certain stories that I know I'm going to tell. Um, but I think as time goes on and I collect stories, like I'll feel more comfortable just pulling and pulling and pulling and pulling.
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Session 49: Finneas
Do you have a favorite standup comedian? Julio Torres.
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Session 49: Finneas
That's my favorite show. Hannah Eyebinder is fantastic.
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Session 49: Finneas
I have seen half of the third, but even better. Oh, my fucking God. The finale of the third, Louise, back me up here, will change your fucking life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Okay. You know about the Tell Me What's Wrongs? I've seen this, but why don't you explain it to me so I really— The pussy is right in. Sure. And they tell us, like— How did this whole pussy thing begin? Well, I know you don't eat meat or seafood, but I eat octopus. Okay. I know it feels like cannibalism now. It's kind of become this, like, separate thing for me, but— What does that mean?
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Session 49: Finneas
Like, it's, like, become, like, less about eating them and more about appreciating them, I think.
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Session 49: Finneas
What? So basically, my account started as an octopus review thing. Called Pass That Puss. So Pass That Puss is about octopus. Yes.
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Session 49: Finneas
And I would rate the octopus out of eight tentacles. And I called my followers, I called my followers pussies. Sure. And I say, tense up, like your tentacles up.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Well, it's me and my friend Drew. We always ate octopus together, and Drew and I would always text each other when we had it, puss. Like, we would take a photo of it and text and say, puss.
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Session 49: Finneas
And it just kind of – and when I was – so basically as I was – when I told you I was working at this record label my junior year, I took my senior year off because like – Just to eat octopus. No, because like they were like you need to finish college. Got it. Because I wanted to drop out and work there full time. They were like, no, please finish college.
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Session 49: Finneas
And I was finishing college, but I was bored. So I started this past that puss account. And then it started as like photos with reviews. And then I started like doing like song. Oh, my God. I started doing song lyrics and like putting puss and tense in the song lyrics. So I actually did one with happier than ever once. Nice. You call me again. Puss in your tense.
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Session 49: Finneas
No, it doesn't make sense. But do you remember when I used to do that?
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Session 49: Finneas
Yes. Oh, the pussies write in and they tell us what's wrong and we give them advice and we prescribe them a remedy. I see. I'm getting cyber bullied by my grandmother. Nice. She keeps on commenting stuff on my public Instagram and I don't think she understands that everyone can see it. Like I could just delete it all, but it's already a joke at my school. It's embarrassing.
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Session 49: Finneas
Of course, of course, of course. But the grandma makes it. The grandma of it all is funny. One time, yeah, I don't know what I was about to say. One time what? Like, my friend's grandma commented, like, something about, like, his sister's birth control on, like, a Facebook post. Like, it was just outrageous.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
It was outrageous, but they just don't get it. No. And you kind of just have to lean into the fact that they don't get it. And, like, respectfully, like, your grandma probably doesn't have much time left.
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Session 49: Finneas
And, like, if they're, like, using social media and they can comment, like, my grandparents don't know how to do that.
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Session 49: Finneas
I really want to figure out what that grandma, it was something about whatever. I have to shit so bad at work, legit every day in the morning. I can't build up the courage to go, but then I just, ew. Ew. Then I just end up crop dusting the fuck out of that place. What do I do? Please help me. Literally figure it out. Like I don't, I don't mean to be harsh. I always used to be scared.
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Session 49: Finneas
I always used to be scared of using the restroom in public places. It is like ripping off a mandate. Once you do it once.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
It doesn't matter. And I learned how to do it via living in a college dorm.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
But you just need to do it. You just need to do it. You need to rip off the band-aid. It's gross. It's gross.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
I used to go to the gender neutral bathroom at all times because that was a single stall. But then I was like, you know what? Like I can go to the boys bathroom even though it's multiple stalls. I can do it.
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Session 49: Finneas
Hi, Jake and Jake's guest. My boyfriend and I have been dating for a few years now, and I just found out he might never want kids. My best friend is saying I need to break up with him right now, but I don't even want kids for another 10 years. What should I do? I've never been in a relationship.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
But then what if you could spend those six years finding someone who you're madly in love with that you want kids with in 10 years?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Yeah. Yeah. I think I would prescribe Louise, tell me if I'm so off. Do you remember in The Real Housewives of New York when Bethany wanted to have kids and her boyfriend at the time didn't? Am I off? Did that not happen? I would prescribe early seasons of Real Housewives of New York. I swear Bethany's boyfriend or fiance at the time did not want to have children. And she really, really did.
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Session 49: Finneas
And it was a big point of contention. And they have like really vulnerable conversations about it. That's cool. See, it is cool. And one of the coolest things about housewives is how vulnerable they get on screen. Like they lay their life out for us.
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Session 49: Finneas
That is fascinating. So you watch the scenes and then you base...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
I don't know if I have it to the extent that the housewives have it. They, they like, they're martyrs. Like, I don't even know how to like.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
They are. The Joan of Bravo. If I could live, I would do anything to be a housewife. I would love to be on the Housewives of Salt Lake City. I'd just film. Be like, oh, I've been filming. Because I have to go film for Housewives.
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Session 49: Finneas
A friend of, you know. I simply cannot stand my roommate's boyfriend. He is such a mansplainer and is so clueless about it. He's also ignorant, attention-seeking, and thinks he's super funny. He's not. My roommate and I are high school best friends, which makes it ten times harder for me to say anything.
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Session 49: Finneas
I just don't think there's anything you can do about it, even if you tell her. I mean, I think might as well. There's nothing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Like, I have the perfect prescription for this. You ever see Girls on HBO?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Literally my favorite show of all time. But when Marnie is in that marriage with whatever his name is, like, no one's pulling her out of that marriage but Marnie. The only reason she gets out of that marriage is because she has this, like, self-realization moment when she sees her ex in the literal best episode of Girls of All Time. and is like, I'm over this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
People need to figure out they're over a relationship themselves. No external factor is ever gonna, in my mind, gonna help them do that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Or I think if you start standing your ground when he's like pissing you off.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
You go to pastthatpuss.com and you click, tell me what's wrong. And you submit a, tell me what's wrong.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
You'll text me. You text me. I'm sure we'll get it in.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Does anyone ever tell you you're an excellent listener?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
I get, it's kind of like a therapist or a therapist. And with that, I'll let you go. Pussies. Thank you for what? Well, how do I end these things? Usually? Like, why am I like brain farting right now? Thank you for coming to Therapist. This was a pleasure. Nice to meet you, Jake. Nice to meet you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
We've never spoken, but now when I see you, I'm going to say.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Okay. You're like, you are busy. Yes. You want to give a little bye, pussies? Bye, pussies. Bye, pussies!
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
So I did that for the first time as well. And it was fucking awesome. I had no idea Fat Tuesdays existed. It was... Like, I love slushies. So slushies with alcohol at a bar setting with a DJ is just so ideal. But I had such a fun time celebrating Alex. Celebrating her was... Incredible. And I am dead now, but it was worth it. I am seeing Billie Eilish and I'm so excited. It's very fitting. I know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Yeah, I was about to say, I feel like the general public is the boss.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Right. Because they're not going to stop you from putting out an album. It's like, you are your own boss in that sense.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Do you ever feel like stunted creatively or did you ever, was it more like you felt more guided or maybe both?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Yeah, I don't think I could ever survive ego death. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
And yeah. And do you see yourself now doing like a lot more scoring in the future? Or would you like to?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Wait, so, like, so for a scorer, is, like, the dream, like, a really memorable, like, kind of, like, like, you know, like, with Harry Potter, like, Game of Thrones. Like, is that the dream for someone scoring? Like, they, it's, it's, what's the word? It's...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
I always feel like music, I like always, what makes a good show to me is like a really good soundtrack.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
around and happy to i think you're amazing but it's like one of those cases where i don't necessarily go like i'm the thing that's missing from your right great album right i'm just like you're so good and you don't need my exactly right you don't want to like disrupt the vision almost exactly okay and what so speaking of producing and albums um you just came out with your own for crying out loud yes how long were you working on that for
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Very fitting for my episode with Phineas this week. But that reminds me that today's episode is sponsored by. Again, by SeatGeek, my fucking queens. Use my code THERAPIST10 for 10% off your ticket. Doesn't matter if you've already purchased a ticket with SeatGeek before. There are so many incredible artists on tour and going on tour now, as we all know and love.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Okay. And so how is that different from then the albums you and Billy made together?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Right. So funny. You mentioned that because today I was like, I hate this. I was talking about how much I hate the sound of my own voice when I have to watch these episodes back. I put it on like 2x speed.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Because I'm like, oh, I'll finish what I have to say quicker.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Like is like just a part of the English language at this point. So true. Well, I mean, it literally is, but like it really like, it really is like.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
But when you're recording a song, you have to hear yourself back.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
No, I just, I feel like they always perform with like a big celebrity every few years. Sounds correct.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
We have a lot of love for them. Did you guys, how, wait, what's your age gap?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Four years. So you guys were, there was a time when you were in that together.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
That would have been cute and fun. And then you guys started working together, obviously.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Role Model is on tour, and I am sure going to see him, so I encourage you guys to do the same. And my dear friend, Tate McRae, is about to go on her sold-out arena tour, but there are always tickets on SeatGeek. Each ticket is rated on a scale from 1 to 10, 1 being bad and 10 being the best. And there's a red dot and a green dot. Red obviously means...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
I just, my best friends now are my best friends before, so I don't think they, like, let me realize. Because if I did, oh, my God. Yeah. Period.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
No, I know my, like I still have my, I live with my best friends. They're on the house right now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 49: Finneas
Okay. I don't think you'll need me to get to Glenn Powell.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Which makes sense why she still has that like humanity and it's like she's so close to exploding. She's like all bottled up. Right. And about to explode but not quite. So I think, I don't know how the writing is going to go next season. If we get next season, I think we will. There's also been talk of that. I'm like, what? Why haven't we? We don't know yet. But it'll be, Got a good feeling. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
But that's when she goes down, like, the darkest path.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
And as an actor, it's, like, terrible. But that's really exciting as an actor. I mean, it's exciting. It's cathartic.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Yeah, but I hope, I mean, for fans, we've already reached that point with Misty in the pilot. So I think, I don't know if people are expecting that. I think they are to some extent because we're on a pretty fast trajectory as the scientists come in. I was very baffled by people knowing that they were scientists. People on Reddit. I mean, there were just theories that people knew with casting.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Like there was the casting that had come out and people were like, oh, they're playing the people that come. But how did people know that? I keep thinking that it's through like sides and through auditions that people start talking. Oh, got it, got it. Because I was like. I'm like, why wouldn't you give dummy sides? But I also don't. No, I'm very confused by all that because it's very random.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I mean, I don't really pay attention to that. I mean, I was on Reddit the first season and all I saw was her roots. She doesn't have roots. And all they would talk about was my hair. Your hair? I was like, just pay attention to my accent. Thank you. But it was a wig because it was just like the time. It was hard to... My hair was really short and they had a show time, yada, yada.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
So I wore a wig and all the comments were on that. So that was, I was like, God damn it. I can't wait.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I know, they're like, get a little roots. Which I get. That's, whatever. It was COVID. I was like in my dark room in New York just looking at Reddit and Like, dark phase of my life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Well, it was I was shooting this. Do you remember Quibi? What is Quibi again? Quibi was when they were trying to make the really short. Yes, short form. But then COVID happened. So everybody was craving, you know, binging and being immersed into everything. So it didn't fully work out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
but I was doing a Quibi show I was in Vancouver where it shoots and I shot it I shot the audition with one of my co-stars and it was really quick Juliet wasn't attached yet I think I read the character the character description I was like okay I can just wear my normal clothes I had the mullet at the time It was actually more because I had been cutting it myself.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
So it was like a bowl cut and then long hair. So it wasn't even a mullet. It was something in between. It was a DIY. It was a DIY confusion haircut. Right. But I did it. I think I did it in a couple takes. I knew that like the character was easy. It was like I've done it before. It was similar to the character that I was playing in the show.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Did it, sent it off. It's really bad. Sometimes I don't memorize. A lot of actors do that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I cannot lie. Well, it depends on the script. It depends on the audition. Sometimes it's just innate, which sounds like, well, you just know. And sometimes I'm, some actors are good at cold reading, and sometimes the cold read is the most honest thing. Cold reading is like... Cold reading is just saying it for the first time. Got it. Which is not always like the first time. Oh, how interesting.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I'd probably read it like a couple times. Got it. And then I said it and it was just kind of already... Not that I had it memorized, but like I understood it. So it was...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
easy in that regard but i think just because the character was close to who i was when i was younger whereas if i do another audition that's far more technical i can't do that i can't pull that off but um forgot about it it was doing a million self-tapes at the time and then a month later um i think i was in popeyes and bushwick getting um a chicken sandwich um Probably had a couple drinks.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
And then my agents called being like, remember that audition you did? You booked it. And I was like, wait.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Which, no, no callback, no nothing. Which I've never, especially so early on in my career to have that. I was like, this is a joke, right? This is a joke. And then I think they were talking about Juliet wasn't attached yet, but they were saying that they were looking at Juliet to play the older me. Because everyone talks about me. Of course, I matched Julia, but it was weird that I was cast first.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I feel like people always say that about the show. I'm surprised the casting directors haven't gotten more. They need me. And you know who's so underrated?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
They look so much alike, and it's the same physicality. Yes. It's a lot of the same mannerisms. It's a lot of the same cadences.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
But I... I do certain things that I know that Juliet would do something like that. Where it's just kind of like a more heightened version of me when I was... Shooting the pilot, I think. But yeah, Lauren is so good. Liv is so good. And I think, oh my God, at the end of this season, their scenes together, it's so Twin Peaks and it's so devastating. I know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
And it always comes back to the airplane when somebody's... Yeah. When they see themselves on the screen, that feels like a nightmare.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
When they see themselves dying on the screen, it's so meta. It's so devastating. And they're like, I'm dead. And they're like, what? This is it? Ugh.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
It's psychological and it's not... I like that it's very genre bending and you don't know when it's lying to you or not or playing with you. Right. It plays tricks with you. And I love shows that do that. It does. It does. Do that. And I think this season specifically, it's very like self-aware of its campiness. Yes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
It's always been that way, but I think specifically this season where it goes into more of the montages and it's very dependent on the music, but in a beautiful way where the music can heighten it and make it more emotional. Yeah, I'm proud of this season. I think this season, specifically towards the end, there are a lot of... Some answers. Not all. There are some answers.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
No, totally. And we're so, like... It's so just taken aback.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
It's so much more, like, heartbreaking to realize who it is. Well, especially with... I know, with Mari.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Through the third season, you were like, this girl's funny. She's kind of self-aware. And... Alexis, she's so good. She's such a good actor and like had time to shine that it like really to build that empathy and then to finally just let go just makes it all the more, you know, drastic and heartbreaking.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I wish. That's a blessing. I love when shows do that. Right? But it's just hard with all of our schedules and a lot of people have children. So we did that a little bit in the second season. We did that with the first season, which is good for me to just hear Juliet. Yeah. And I miss that. But now it's like I've got that pretty dialed in, so I don't worry about that as much.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
But I like it just to hear... the modern day actors and just to see what's going on. But then I also like watching it blind and it feeling like a different show.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I mean, yes. Yeah. I mean, lots. I guess we all knew Ben was going to die.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Which worked. Because it was like they had the trial and they were like, oh, we're going to do it now. And then it didn't happen. Yeah. But, I mean, Stephen's so good. That scene was really hard to shoot because he is family. He truly is family to all of us at this point. And the first season is like, God, we would all party at his house. I would drink so much.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Everyone would drink so much White Claw. It was COVID. Everybody was crazy. And he was just like, I don't know, would host and just be like, he's a beautiful guy. And he's just really kind. And I thought he was so good in that episode and so good this season, just in the show. But it was hard. I'm glad that they chose Natalie for that. Yeah, me too.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Because I think it added to her depths and to her guilt and made her, of course, more fucked up and closer to the Juliet version. But they always had like a special specific bond. Yeah, they did. Where there was trust. There was trust involved.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I had a moment when I was starting, after we had stopped, we'd finished season three. I would start talking about her and start crying, which I've never had, but I think it's because I've grown up with her.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
And I call it yellow jackets university. The most, it's not pussy. Yeah. Pussy. I said pussy. Um, very different. Um, um, The most fucked up university, but growing with Natalie has been an experience of a lifetime. And I know that I'll have other characters where I feel so close, but maybe not for a bit.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
She's a hero. Yeah. But that last monologue that Melanie has where she's like, I was a fucking queen.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
It's different. There are a lot of similarities. I feel like music is still so foreign to me that it's more exciting. Right. Whereas I've been acting since I was three years old. I've been acting professionally since I was like 10, started with theater. So it's still foreign to me, but I have a good sense of what to expect usually when I go into a project.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
But with music, it's like I haven't even done live shows yet. It's kind of just a very internal process that when it's shared, it's way more scary. And I was releasing the songs as I was shooting Yellow Jackets. And I was so much more stressed out about that. Right. Overshooting. Because I was like, I don't know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
It's not my story, which people assume a lot of the time that I am Natalie. Which is interesting, but kind of, you know, it's going to happen if that's your first role in anything. Right. But with music, it's my first love. I feel so much more passionately about it. I look up to musicians where it's like with actors.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I never really fangirl over actors because I mean, I have my inspirations, of course, and I look up to people. But with musicians, it's like this other realm of, you know, tapping to something really. It's different. It's very different to me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I mean, a lot of them are gone now. Elliot Smith is my number one. I have Elliot Smith tattoo. Fiona Apple, Arthur Russell, Cass McCombs. So many people. And I'm always like wary of talking about people that are around now because I'm like. It's sensitive, and I don't want to, like... I don't know. What do you mean? No, sensitive in the way that, like... I don't know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I don't want to, like, bring them up and see them be like, hey, brought you up in that interview.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
You're not like, I actually did not feel like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, I think music is... I know exactly what I want with music and I know exactly my taste. And I'm still trying to figure out my taste with with picking projects right now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Yeah. I, which is interesting. I know what I like, but like picking project wise and like getting scripts now, it's interesting to try to like decipher what resonates with me and what doesn't, because sometimes the second time you read a script, you really like it. And it depends on your mood that day. Whereas with music, it's like, I kind of know immediately. It's a very, it's a guttural feeling.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
It's a guttural in tune feeling. Whereas with scripts, it's like it can change and it's so entirely dependent on the crew and, and like having a conversation, it's like, it's less intuition based.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Like, horror, thriller, thrillery. Yeah, I mean, I was drawn to that. I made a lot of... Me, I have a twin sister. Yes. And we made zombie movies when we were younger. Oh, did you really? Oh, yeah. I-movie? Yeah. Oh, iMovie, of course. We didn't know how to use anything else. But it was all that. So it's like, of course. It's a very natural path. I'm insanely lucky to be where I'm at right now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
And insanely lucky to be in such like elevated projects where it's not, you know, purely based upon jump scares. It's based upon...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
you know something psychological and far more human and far more timely and like real topics that a lot of people choose not to talk about um so i guess i don't know i feel like i've done a lot of it so i just want to choose projects where i haven't where it's new territory right
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Where it's like, oh, it's a director that I want to work with that will teach me something. Or it's like, this is a character that I haven't played. I never want to repeat something.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I don't know, because people never really outwardly give advice, which is always, like, and I'm never asking for it out of, like, my own, you know, keeping my own whatever. I guess... This is a basic answer, but it's true. Standing up for yourself, you have a lot more say than you think. Yes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
And if you don't like something, you have to say it immediately or else you're going to be beating yourself up about it every day. And even if it's a little thing, even if it's like a hair and makeup thing, if it's one line, if it's one line that like kills you and you just can't say it, sometimes you know when a line doesn't work.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
And it's like, it's just you. It's like, it doesn't work. You say that tiny things like that make a difference and they add up. And if you can like bring it up in a way that is, you know, normal and nonchalant, then it's fine. And I'm still trying to figure that out and figuring out how to use my voice. But I remember even like talking to Juliet and texting her the first season and
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
just over like little random things. And she was like, just say something. I guess really easy. And I'm like, to me, I was like, Oh, that's a way that's an option.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
So I was like, all I was thinking about was my goddamn reputation and everyone. I was so keen on like, I'm the easiest person to work with. Like Sophie's easy. Like she can do anything. I'm like, no, like make it a good experience. Make it, make it good for everyone.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Yeah. You know what I mean? I was quiet. Like I didn't think that most things that I say now were an option. Right. Um, so that's like a big thing where it's, it wasn't as obvious as I expected.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
We do. I saw her at this wildfire benefit show and I'd never seen her play live. And she's crazy. Yeah. She's a rock star. She's like Mick Jagger. And that was fun to see her live. But I haven't seen her in a while. And I miss her. And I definitely feel it's interesting watching the show now and feeling the loss of her presence. Because she really does. I mean, she fulfills Natalie.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Or not hard, like... It was hard to watch without her.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Because it was hard to get... I mean, I read the scripts, but, like, you feel the weight of her not being there because she has so much... She's such a rich actor and has so much presence on screen that, of course, when you lose an actor like that, you feel that. And I feel like... I mean, obviously, she's the other half, but, like, she's the other Natalie.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Like, she is such a different Natalie and it, like... It's so interesting to see the comparison between the two of us. To lose that was sad, but also I had to get used to it at some point. A couple episodes in, I was like, oh, she's not coming back.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Yeah, never like, you know. like, very specific advice, but more of just that feeling of somebody has your back no matter what, and there's nothing more intimate and strange than sharing a character, and it's like, I might not ever have that again. Especially in a TV show. Right. That is a very strange, and that's why Yellowjackets is special.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
It's because you don't have a lot of shows where it's that 20-year jump. Yeah. So it's this weird, unspoken... thing where we just we have that and i don't know that every actor on the show has that with their counterpart
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I'm good. I'm good. I can't believe we have mutuals in common from Lake Forest. Lake Forest. Lake Forest is so specific. Well, Louise was like. Well, it's more shore, so I get it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I was like... Was that your first panic attack?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Wow. I'm so sorry you had, well, I have a lot of fucking anxiety. Yeah. That's always when I have, where it's like the out of body, like, oh my God, I'm going to have a heart attack type sensation. So I would be, I'm pissed at panic attacks.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
White Lotus. White Lotus. Have you ever seen The Leftovers? I haven't, but Jasmine's on that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
People are saying it's a masterful, very underrated show.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
She comes from Chicago Theater, too. Really? Not to her extent. Um, but she's like in the Chicago scene. She is God.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I'm like, I don't really have like a trio and all of, I mean, my friends are pretty blunt and I'm pretty blunt.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
That's crazy. It's like the craziest mutual to have. Popcorn. I know. That's like a Chicago staple. I know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
And then denying it and playing the field. She's the least calculated.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Yeah. Shit. I mean, this season is so fun. I'm obsessed with Amy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I want her to be in everything. She is so fucking good. And so natural. And so, like, charming. So charming. I haven't seen an actor like that in a while that just...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
oozes charisma i mean same with parker posey right i met parker at the valentino show and she was like break dancing on the floor and i was like your party like this is party girl this is everything i could have ever dreamed for she is incredible an icon and it made me excited to just like keep acting and like she's my icon like i look up to her so much that to have
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Like a night with her was so special. And then to watch her in White Lotus. Again, it's just like some people ooze presence. Yes. Where it's like some people just have an immediate presence on screen. Right. And it's nothing you can teach yourself. No acting class can teach that. Where Amy and her just have that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
The Boy Scouts. Why don't they do that anymore? I feel like there are no Boy Scouts anymore.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
The scene wasn't even about her. And she stole the entire scene.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Damn. Yeah, I'm trying to think of other. I'm a big cartoon person.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I just watched Princess Mononoke in theaters. I took a little gummy before.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I mean, I had the big Princess Mononoke poster in my room. Claire Danes is my favorite, so her voicing San. Mm-hmm. I think it's the most adult one out of all, because it's like Spirited Away is the most famous. Totoro. Totoro is, that's probably the most famous.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
What happened to... Oh, because... Great way to start this. I was like, what happened?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
But Princess Mononoke, I mean, I forget how dense it is.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I mean, I don't know how to describe, it's like war against humans and animals, and it's about environmentalism, and so many just like very adult topics, that to have that... In a seemingly... Like a children's animation. It's not... Nothing about it. It's very adult. It's beautiful. It's all painted and it's all... It's interesting. I was talking to my friends about this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
The AI Studio Ghibli shit that's been going around.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I'm not on Twitter, but my friends are all... You know what I'm talking about, right? Yeah. Yeah. My friends are on Twitter. I hate Twitter. Yeah. But everyone's like taking a picture of themselves and AI generating it into Studio Ghibli. And it's gone too far with like really discussing things.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
But seeing that and then seeing an actual Studio Ghibli movie with all of it just like hand painted, taken years. It's just offensive.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
No, I tried. I mean, I'm so, I'm like, Hey, I learned a lot of what not to say in a press and stuff. I mean, it's interesting that I like chose, I keep choosing very interesting movies and then don't think about it for the press cycle where I'm like, Oh, this is going to be tricky. Um, but it was fine.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I'm definitely, it's, it's hard because we had the, the writer's strike and that was, I think AI takes away from anything original and creativity. Um, And it's sad to me personally when I see artists using AI for inspiration or for anything. I'm like just taking away from who we are as humans. Yeah. I couldn't agree more. It's a bummer in my opinion.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I keep thinking, and that's like the point of conversation where, I mean, I was cheating a lot as a kid.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
But that's an art in and of itself. If you can cheat well, then you can go far in life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Yes, there were some at Bristol Farms, and I really enjoyed that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Yeah. I mean, that's devastating for, I mean, they said they dated a year. How long? They didn't say?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
To have a long term and then have somebody move on so quickly.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
That's offensive. That's like, but how do you find that? Like, that's like you post about, that's clearly strategic where it's like trying to hurt you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
And that's not a person you want to be with. Right. Where that feels very impulsive. That feels like... You want to be with somebody that's, you know, like, takes their time and is, like, not like that. But also, how did she... I don't know. I have a lot of questions. I have a lot of questions.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I guess Bristol now. It was Erewhon because I was living in Silver Lake right next to the Erewhon next to Bar 4100. It is, but it's I think the most sceny. It is. It's the most like, oh, you're like every time you go there, you can't go with your pimple patches. Yes. You got to put on, you got to like, you don't have to, but me being a little self-conscious, I have to dress up a little bit.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Yeah. I mean, Fiona Apple always, if I want to hate on men, which I don't, that's, I mean, that's not a person you want to be with. If they're that impulsive, that's childish. I think that's childish. And that's just like, you can do better. She said she is aware or they are aware that they've done, like they are better now. So hold on to that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I mean... Title. Title's the first record that she made. She wrote a lot of the songs when she was 16. Wow. Which kind of makes you feel bad about yourself, too, where you're like, I wasn't doing that when I was 16. That's like Lorde. Lorde, I know, I know. It's similar. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Where you're just like, how does one have so much talent when they're still in high school doing calculus or whatever the hell? Right. I never did calculus. Well, you were homeschooled, right? I was homeschooled, yeah. And homeschooling is like a joke. I was in and out of school a lot, but... Homeschooling is, you really have to teach yourself. It's not.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Or just quit. I'm going to be honest. I hate drama. I'm a Libra. I like my balance.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I don't. You're a peacekeeper. Where I'm just like, where it works with Natalie. Yeah. It makes sense. I'm like Natalie in that way. We're like thinking about drama. I'm like, I love hearing about it. If I'm not involved, like, give me, give me, give me. I don't say quit. Cause like, you know, you gotta make that money. That's not your own fault. Distance yourself. Distance yourself.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
That person is messy. That person is messy. You need to focus on yourself. Also, it's a job. It's a job. Sometimes it's hard when you get too close with people on jobs. I've never really had that where it's like, you know, Um, but focus on yourself, focus on the job and let it be a job. Um, distance yourself in a healthy way.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Um, I'm trying to think of something to, I feel like, no, sometimes we like, fuck it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Oh, totally. Totally. But also stay away because that person seems a little messy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Yes, it can be an insecurity thing where it's like you're already insecure about your own relationship. Yes. So that you see when you see somebody getting close, you assume the worst.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
And I understand that mentality. It's just like that's anxious attachment right there.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Going directly to the best. It'll fuck up your relationship forever. If I had a best friend, I can't even imagine.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Embarrassed, that affects – it's just awkward. At the end of the day, it's just awkward.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Especially if it's not that. And you can tell that it's just insecurity. But that's tricky.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Yeah. And not, you know. Yeah, exactly. That makes sense. Yes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Hi, Katie. Hi. I still have it, and it's just kind of about seeking.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
finding the right therapist and finding the right therapist is like a right that's like so exhausting and i've seen millions of therapists it's like dating it's like dating where it's just you can't even if they're a great person sometimes it's not a match and the communication is not there it's not the same it's not the banter you want it's not the sometimes you want somebody to you know really check you or sometimes you want somebody to agree with you
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Because there's a lot going on. It's just like- I can't even remember everything.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Absolutely. There's so many different kinds of therapy. I'm actually I think everyone should be in therapy no matter what. And there's so many, and you can try a specific kind of therapy and maybe it doesn't work. And then you try another, you just have to be open. And it's such a long process, but like you have to be open. Sometimes it takes years and that's so frustrating. Um,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
But, yeah, just having somebody that has your back. Because for me, it was, like, I have a lot of tics that, like, when I get nervous, I, like, do a lot of, like, specific tics where I, like, suck in my cheeks and I'm really nervous. And all these things that I still do. But having – when I had a therapist, it really helped to just calm it down and, like – She was aware.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
My boyfriend's always aware and clocks it. And it's just like a signal. He can tell that I'm not in my right mind. So this is Katie. I don't know. I think it's good to be open about OCD. And so many people have OCD and are not aware of it. Right. And are not aware of it at all.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Okay. Um, I went for Halloween. I had a tooth or not the, the yes. In my ear. No party. Just like that. And I was like, I'm Lena Dunham.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Were you on the girls podcast? Yes, I was. I knew it. I was like. I was. Were you on the girls podcast? No, I wasn't. Oh, they're great. But I follow.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
And that's a go to sleep show. Are you kidding? Yeah. It's like that show's so good.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Of course. I've watched it. I've rewatched it like three times.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Um, I rewatched it second season of yellow jackets when I actually was their age. Uh huh. Um, cause I had only, cause my mom was watching the show. I was like 13 when I watched it the first time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
And I'm like, I don't get it. I was like, oh, he's fools. Um, and now I get it. A little bit more, but also don't because I'm like, these characters are so insufferable. They're so endlessly watchable that it almost, if I want to feel bitter about myself, I go to that show or I go to BoJack Horseman.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
It's the best show of all time. It's like about depression, right? It's about depression. Yeah. And whenever I feel bad about myself or just want to feel like, I'm not alone. Yeah. I watched that. Yeah. But it's like the last thing you'd expect a fucking horse talking about being depressed and being an addict.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
It's so, it takes, it takes a second to get into it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I recommend it to everybody because if you know me, if you hang out with me a couple of times, it's like you already, like I went through a phase, right? I've probably seen each episode 30 times. I'm not joking. It was my fall asleep to show. Okay. Got it. Every night. Yeah. Where it was just ritual. Yeah. Fall asleep to it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
But I think I've calmed down on that a little bit because I have – it's to the point where I know every line that's coming up. I can't recite anything, but, like, I know every – I'm like, this is not healthy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I remember, did you ever watch the like off, the auditioning? The Glee Project? Yeah, yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Whoa. Yeah. That name, I forgot that that existed.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Well, I feel like she still has some humanity. Right. I feel like the rest of the group doesn't specifically. Shauna. Wait, so I haven't? Everyone has a very, like, visceral reaction to Shawna this season because Sophie Nolese is amazing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I remember the Legally Blondes when they were all auditioning for Legally Blondes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I need to rewatch Glee. And I think my time is now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
That's funny. Out of all shows, Glee. I mean, it's serotonin. I get it. We're just like, oh, no. It's right. It's serotonin. I get it. Yeah. Did you watch the documentary about the deaths?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Mad Men. Oh, my God. My twin dressed up as a random. We hadn't watched Mad Men because it was way too adult. Right. But I think it was like fifth grade. She had these glasses that went up. And she was like, I'm a character from Mad Men. And had to see the show.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
It's insane. Yeah. Her name is Ellie and she's like a genius. Truly a genius. I was just in Chicago and saw her and it's just nice to go back and see her because she's my best friend.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Yeah, you go through phases as a twin, and I think we had the same friend group, which was kind of hard. And I was always working, so I was a little disconnected from the friend group. And we were very similar growing up. We would take turns taking on different personalities, I think.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Yeah. But like she was always more, she was more shy and then she was more outgoing and then more popular and then yada yada. It was really complicated being the same school.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
But now that that doesn't matter and like we have our people, none of that matters. Right.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
It's not going to matter. And you're like, shut up. I truly didn't care. I honestly.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
because i was working i was like work first like none of this matters i'm around adults all day like everybody's a child here i was a child but i felt like i was like 14 going on 30 right um where i think that i was actually more mature than i was now because now i can actually live in my age and be myself right um you're what 24 25 24 got it yeah how old are you 25 yeah when'd you graduate
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
No. Okay, yeah. Neither did I. Yeah. But here I am.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Oh, wow. I know. You have a very interesting family.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
What did we learn today? I mean, even just that last thing. I mean, I... Not to be corny, but I admire how honest you are. Thank you. I'm not just saying that. I think it's really cool, and you don't get that a lot in interviews, where it's like you can talk about things really openly. So I think that's, I don't know. I've always, it was just a reminder, because honesty is...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
It's hard now. Exactly. Like, she was that good. But this season was a big turning point.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I love you. Thank you. I love you. Thank you. Thanks for coming.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I think we do. I like this. Oh, Patrick. Patrick. Where's Cassandra? Where?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Great. Yeah. I feel like we're all pretty good at keeping it light. I think you have to. Or else all of us. I have a thing where I really don't. A lot of the scenes this season are the group scenes. Right. And technically it's a pain in the ass. Because it's so many takes. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
It takes probably, like, eight hours to do, like, a two-page group scene. Oh. Which is insane, and you're just so... It really is a test for any actor, just saying the same line over and over again. It feels like theater to some extent, which I haven't done in a while. So that's the most exhausting when we have a group scene that's, like, really tense. Yeah, yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
You know, you have to stay in that all day. That's, like, the only other option is, like... I don't know. I feel like we don't really, cause we go out, we're in the, we shot a lot of it in the forest this season, which is similar to season one where season two was all on like a stage, uh, Yay! Amazing! So it was nice to have that immersion quality again.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
But that also means that we don't have our own rooms. So we don't have our own individual time. So we're doing these group scenes, but then we go to this tent where it's all of us just sitting in these chairs. I brought... Not my Nintendo Switch, but my Nintendo. Do you remember the game Dogs? Of course. Nintendo Dogs.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I would play that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's like.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
So I played that because that was my therapy and I was like, turn it off.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
I played it on the DS. I got it off eBay. But that was kind of my way of shutting off. I know some people brought their Switches. Some people would just go mute. We would share memes. We'd try to bring lightness.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
No, actually. Oh my God. I feel like it would make sense for me to be a Pokemon kid.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's also the Hello Kitty one that just came out. Yes, I'm desperate for that one. That was my childhood.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Yeah, I mean, that could be an exaggeration or it could be more. No, no, right, right. Because it's very dependent on the director and the day and the technicalities of it all.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Jennifer Morrison did episode four, which was all the court stuff.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
And because we had to get coverage. It's just the coverage. Because it's so technical and getting coverage on everybody was really obnoxious. But because it was her directing, she was so strategic. And it wasn't like, oh, let's feel it out. Like, oh, maybe we'll do coverage on this person. She had it all planned out, so it was great.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
coverage just like getting a close-up on this person and then a wide close-up just for like for the editors to have freedom in the room um but that was hard and i remember i mean i had just a couple lines when i was seated um when they were asking me questions in the courtroom scene and i remember feeling nervous i was like this feels like an audition and i haven't felt that in a while it's because all these people were looking at me that i was like oh my god this is awful
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
But I don't know. My mind was going through many, many scenes because the show is not easy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Go home! Well, because that already aired episode eight.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
We had to do that a lot. And we it was a fun experience because we took a helicopter. It was just like eight of us on this helicopter going up to this mountain. There was no snow. Right. They faked all of it. And that's kind of the point of going there is to be snow. But there wasn't any snow. But it looked just because it was so vast. Right. And it was so endless and adding to that feeling of.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
you know, being so lost in such a huge place. It made her feel so small. And then hearing the voice just added, you know, and you almost forget on the show that they get rescued, which I think is interesting that in that moment, you're like, wait,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
They get, like, because there's a disconnect to some extent.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
That's what makes... They don't know, and it just shows how...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
truly delusional they are like truly delusional so out of their minds can't even fathom going back home but it's also there's something sad I was thinking about this and I've seen comments about this the people that want to go home are the people that had the worst lives at home I was literally thinking that it makes me really emotional to think about that yeah well Nat has arguably one of the toughest situations she doesn't have parents she doesn't have anything and she's leading the charge to leave and
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
You don't really, it's interesting. I'm curious about her background or her home life. Right, we don't get much of that. Because in the pilot, it was like not, didn't fully go into it. Right. But you get a sense that it's like normal middle class, which makes it harder. Or it just is such a distinction between her background.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
and shauna um that it just makes it more devastating but then also you think about lottie and it's like she would probably be committed to right because i forgot that she was committed before yeah i forgot and it would probably be immediately after it would probably i mean i don't know i haven't gotten the script so i'm with the fans right where i'm just making assumptions i'm making it up i truly don't know
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
That's loaded. I don't know. I'm kind of like a misty defender. Well, lately I have been too, but when I- Because out of all the other characters, she's better than the other characters.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
Like, they are like- I think Thaisa has some redeeming moments.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 67: Sophie Thatcher
That's what I'm most excited about. I feel like as I got just the plot for it, my mind was racing thinking about what would happen immediately because that's such a drastic contrast specifically for my character because that's when she... you know, she kind of cracks. Right. She hasn't cracked yet.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 44: Sofia Richie Grainge
Solving your problems with the famous person on the couch It's Therapus He's got you on the hook He's slaying and he's shook It's Therapus, Therapus, Therapus, Therapus With me, Jake Shane
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Hi, pussies. We are in Oklahoma City. Tour is happening. I am having the best time ever. We are having so much fun. There's a little drama this morning, but what is a trip without a little drama? But tonight we are in Oklahoma City and I'm so excited. I guess when this episode airs, I will be in St. Louis.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I get the munchies hard too. Yeah. It was just that. It's like all the salt. It was just like – and I wake up so much easier now. Wait, but you said you were a cold sleeper, speaking of. Yes. What do you sleep at?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Oh, that's pretty good, though. Yeah. 62, fan on, and then- For the white noise? No, no white noise. Are you ready for me to change your life? Yes. What's your mattress like? Is it technology vibes, or is it like a mattress mattress?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Nope. No, they are not. And you're like, oh my God, Jake, what's an eight sleep? Well, I'll tell you. It tracks your, here, where's my phone? It tracks.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Eight and a half. Sometimes nine. It depends on the, depends on the day. This is comfy though. It is comfy, right? Yeah. These are kind of comfy too. They're just kind of, they're not as snug as I usually wear my shoes. So wait, eight sleep? Yes. So this is my app, right? Oh, my brother has one of these. They like heats you up to wake you up. Yes. And vibrates. And it vibrates you to wake you up.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Tonight on Therapist, we have Ross Lynch. He is very gorgeous and extremely talented. He is one half of the Driver era, and they are gearing up to release their new album, which is amazing. I was able to listen to it. It is incredible. And I think we honestly hung out for so long during this. This episode really felt like a hangout. We're very different people. He loves nature.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Look at that. So this is my sleep fitness score. It's a 91.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
So this is, so last night I slept for seven hours and 47 minutes. It tells me when I had REM sleep, light sleep, deep sleep, and when I was awake.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, and I snored for an hour and 13 minutes last night. It says snoring? Yeah. Yeah. I think it tracks sound, which is weird, right?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I talk a lot of shit in my room, so I hope they don't.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
No, but you know what I did last night? My friend butt dialed me and I stayed on the phone just to see if they would talk shit about me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
That would be such a sad occurrence. Yeah, I got on the phone and I texted them. Well, I let them know. So I said, hey, you're dialing me right now, but I'm not hanging up. I'm waiting to see if you talk shit about me. Damn.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
They hung up. Oh. Which means shady business. Instead of being like, oh my God, they hung up and called me back.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah. Talking shit is, like, my favorite pastime. Really? It's just, like... I've just never gotten into it. I mean, it's just such a release. I don't know if it's, like, a girl thing, because, like, I'm friends with all girls. It's what we do.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
But, like, sometimes I'll be at dinner, and it's just, like, let's go through the Rolodex. Yeah. And like, right? Are you talking about like what people are, who's dating who? Yeah, it's a lot of- Their like practice, like skincare? No, no, no, no, no. So that's like, that's like juvenile talking shit. Okay, okay, okay.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Talking shit is like when you're like, when I, when you're like a seasoned shit talker, like it's like life choices vibes. It's like, I can't believe they've done this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
No, I'm going to think. Oh, like this guy and his girlfriend broke up. Breakups are always super juicy, I get it. Yeah, but we don't know them enough to really care. But we do. Well, that's probably better to talk shit. If you're not like emotionally invested. Right. And then they got back together, but we knew that the reason they broke up was like a real ender.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
So we were just confused as to why they got back together. No, it was just like moral differences. And so we were talking about how weird it is that they got back together because the reason they broke up like made sense to be like an ender forever.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I'm not, I, you know, I'm, you guys know, I'm like connected to my phone. Like that's my, that's like my, I'm not really in touch with nature, but he was really able to tell me why nature was important and why we should all go touch grass. And I really think you guys are going to like this episode. My OCD is telling me to redo that, but I'm going to keep that for you guys, okay?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Are you a flexible dater? Like, do you... Like, when you are with someone, like, do you, like... Are you like, this is who I am? Or do you, like... I'm reasonable. Right.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Which is, you know, I've never had a boyfriend. Never? Never. Not once. And I think it's, and I decided this morning that it was God being like, you, it won't work.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
But like, I decided this morning, like it was a sign from the universe that like they're protecting me. Okay. From myself. Well, that's cool. Yeah. From yourself. Yeah. Like, I just know I'll be a, like, I'll just, I won't be a good boyfriend. Can you imagine, Louise? Interesting. Like me with a boyfriend? You're 25? I'm really not selling myself here.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
And this is kind of random because it's not what we're talking about at all.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Tell me about... so you started acting, well, you started acting on Kidz Bop and stuff, like Kidz Bop commercials. You can't really call that acting, but yeah, I was in front of a camera on TV before. Then Austin Alley. Yes. And then where was the transition into R5 and the Driver era?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I love you, pussies. Go to passthatpuss.com and see if there is a show near you for Live with Jake Shane. It is really, really fun. I've been loving doing these shows and meeting you guys in person has been amazing. And enjoy the episode. I love you, pussies. Hi, pussies. Welcome back to Therapist. Today, we have the one, the only. I say that for every fucking guest. It's actually diabolical.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Right. But there was always something to fall back on. Like, you kind of knew what you were doing. It's kind of like being, it's like your version of, like, middle school or high school. It was for sure my high school. Yeah. And did you... It was sick, though. I mean, yeah, that sounds amazing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
And you get along with your family super well, so it's super fun. Yeah, yeah. Do they ever come to set for all scenarios?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Are they still making music, Hollywood Records? Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
You said that you felt more famous than the actual band itself. Does that ever get frustrating?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Creative endeavors. Right. Like, I wish, like, all of me wants... Oh, are you not? No, it's like all of me wants to be like, I painted last night and I read and then I pranced around and did a walk and journaled. I bet you would, though, if you didn't have a TV. TV, that's not my main problem.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
My phone. Ross, when I tell you, like, you could put my phone on my body, like, sew it into my body... I would probably say yes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Like, I'm so addicted to my phone. First thing in the morning, I wake up, immediately check it for two hours. Oh, whoa. Like, I twitch without it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
It's the instant... It got really bad once I started doing TikTok as my career.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
The instant gratification of like TikTok and social media, it's like... You're doomed. My...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
no i'm quite literally doomed like my main addiction and then i tried instagram reels that one night that insert tiktok got banned and i was like i think i'm gonna finally do it like i think i'm gonna go touch grass you know what i mean like i think because i hate instagram reels i'm sorry but what's the difference the difference is it algorithm based you are a realist person aren't you i'm not yes you know what i'm doing what you're doing i'm trying to touch more grass
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I don't know what grass smells like. I don't know what grass looks like. Grass could be yellow.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
It's, like, relaxing. Oh, sometimes, yeah. I used to have these stuffed animals that you would heat up in the microwave. Oh, whoa. And they would smell like lavender. That kind of sounds toxic, though. It's the most. And it smelled like lavender, and it would put me to bed.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
You can't. They're everywhere. They're everywhere. You brought up collaborations.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Did you expect that moment to be as big as it was when you did it? Or were you like surprised by the reaction?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
That album is so good, though. Yeah, for sure. What have you been listening to these days?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Well, you said you were listening to your own music while recording it, but before recording it, was there anything you were listening to a lot of?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, that's a vibe where I'm like, that ends with me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Right, right. Do you, okay, well, speaking of gratitude, is there anything you're a therapist about? No.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Therapist. Like, what are you angry about? Like, I'm angry about my morning nausea.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Morning nausea. I have it every single morning. I've had it every single morning since high school. And I get really nauseous.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Does that happen when you intermittent fast? No, it happens because I get anxious. And I get anxious via nausea. It's probably because you're spending two hours on your phone every morning, dude. Every morning, my screen time is 13, 14 hours a day. Oh.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Right. Okay, so I will go to Yosemite, but only if you go with me. I can do that for you. Would you really?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's a song on the album about Paris.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I think you'd really like a show if you came to it. I want to go to one of your shows.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
It's not scary just because it was scary at first. And then, so my, okay. Standup gets is really, really scary when you have nothing to show for it behind you. So like I do, I do like a presentation type standup. So I'll show photos that go along with my story or videos or text or like something that really help kind of with just like the comedic timing of it all. Cause like I'll press it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Like I'll press like the change and it'll work with the joke. But when you're just like talking and you have to just be funny and there's nothing behind you and you're just like kind of like that's real. That's real. That's really hard. That sounds terrifying. You guys, I did it. I worked out alone today without anybody else, just me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Usually I have to take a class or be with a trainer, but it was just me and my aloe moves today, okay? And I had the best workout of my life. I felt amazing after. I was so happy. And I did a HIIT class with weights in the hotel gym. And I am always one that when I get out of my routine of being home, I like can't work out. It's like sometimes I'll do a class here and there.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
But now that I've like done Alo Moves and I know that it literally feels exactly like I do in the gym, I'm going to do this every day. I seriously felt so amazing. I was on my own pace. But I was being helped by the app and the instructor on the app. And it felt like I was – Right back in the Allo gym, which I actually really, really do miss a lot.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
The past few weeks, it's been hard for me to figure out my personal wellness routine. I wake up late. I'm in a different city. It's just it's hard to like really have a workout schedule. But Allo Moves has made it so easy and it's really like helped me hold myself accountable. And I get to see my favorite trainers who I miss so much. Laura, I love you. Louie, I love you. Gio, I love you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Steph, I love you. Reset your personal wellness routine with Allo Moves. Go to allomoves.com right now and use code THERAPUS for an exclusive 30-day free trial and 20% off an annual membership. That's allomoves.com, code THERAPUS. allomoves.com, code THERAPUS. Thank you, Allo Moves, for sponsoring today's episode. I love you guys. This episode of Therapist is brought to you by Booking.com.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Booking. Yeah! We are now in Oklahoma City. And once again, we had no hotel booked when we got here. So we went on Booking.com and we found the Fortson Hotel. It was amazing. We wanted a gym and we wanted a steam room. And somehow we actually did get both. So that was amazing. But Booking.com made it really easy to put in the things we wanted.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
to make sure that we found the hotel that was right for us, even though we were doing it last minute. I'm usually one to panic when we don't have something booked, but because I really do actually rely on Booking.com and I trust that it will work, I had no worries at all and we ended up at an incredible hotel that does resemble Severance slightly.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
um which i'm also really excited for brett is coming and trudy is coming because that is trudy's hometown but yeah tour is great i'm having a great time i have this new thing where i stand on the stage and make everyone take photos of me like i'm on a red carpet and actually let's cut that that's for well why would i cut that i've already posted that i am a little manic
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
They have a huge variety of options from hotels to vacation rentals. I know that I will always find exactly what I'm looking for. You also aren't just able to book a hotel on there. You can book a car on there. And honestly, whatever else you need to plan like the perfect vacation or the perfect trip, Booking.com really does just make it really easy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I'm honestly so happy they became a sponsor of the show right before tour because it has been super, super, super helpful and really awesome. And now I used to panic when we would have nowhere booked and we'd have to Google everything and go on all these different sites. But now we just want Booking.com and we put in what we need and we find a hotel easily.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
really, really quickly, and it's the easiest thing in the world. Find exactly what you're booking for on booking.com. Booking. Yeah! Thank you, booking.com, for sponsoring today's episode. I'll see you guys in the next city. Okay, well, you touch a lot of grass, so are you watching anything?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Oh, got it, got it, got it. So speaking of German shows, have you ever seen the show Dark?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
So, tell me a little bit about... Okay, so how long has the Driver era been together for? It's you and your brother.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yes. I watched like an episode or two. No, you have to stick with it. You have to stick with it. I've heard amazing things. It is the best show besides Girls on HBO. It is the best show I've ever, ever, ever seen in my entire life. Ever. And you would love it. Okay. I know you would love it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
What was I going to say? You never told me what you were a therapist about.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
No, it's not annoying at all. I aspire to be like that one day.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
six years now since 2018 yeah okay and seven years i guess wow time flies time does fly we were just talking about that i know where did you where were you guys born colorado colorado littleton colorado do you does your family still there some of my family is yeah but most of most everyone's in la now okay okay and did you guys all move out here when you started doing disney stuff
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Oh, well, you've gone through your Saturn return. That's why you're speaking like this. Saturn is my power planet. Yep. Well, you've gone through its return. That was like the big thing that was happening recently. I saw that. Well, it happens when you're 20. Correct me if I'm wrong. 27 to 30. And it's just like your life starts—I don't know, actually. I'm sorry.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
It's like your life starts to make sense, and you start to accept the things you can't control, and things start to come into the clearer picture. I'm also just making stuff up as I go, kind of based on the vibe of what I think it is.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Knock on your head three times. Wait, that's four times. No, knock three. Uh-oh. You knock three? Yeah. Cool. I get really superstitious.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Love whatever just happened. I'm going to go to bed with that. I'm going to take that with me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I'm very superstitious about jinxing things. So I can't say, well, I'm very about OCD. So I can't say like something is going to happen because then the opposite will happen. OCD is the one where you need everything in order. No. OCD is... Well, it can be. Okay. But OCD is also... It's just like rituals.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
So I used to... I might have some of that. I used to have to look in the mirror... 10 times before I went to bed and smile. Oh, whoa. It was like a horror movie.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yes. Have you seen smile? I actually really liked that movie. I love that movie. You like two or one better.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Thing. Well, I just thought it was so cool because, like, as a famous person, her whole thing was to always smile. Yeah. And then it, like, kind of became her demise.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Was really, really cool. And then, like, the final scene, I thought, was, like, epic.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
The best one. Really? I don't know if that's a popular or unpopular opinion, but that was my favorite one that I've seen so far.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
No, so Nora is about a stripper that falls in love with a Russian oligarch's son. Fun. It is, and then it's not, and it's just so... Have you seen The Florida Project? Is that... I think maybe. It's the one where they live in the motel outside of Disney World? That sounds familiar, but I can't really remember. It's the same director who did that. Okay. And he's amazing. Okay, cool.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
And there's this actress named Mikey Madison who's the lead role in Enora, and she won the BAFTA last night.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah. Wow. I love her. No way. Yeah, she's awesome. You would really, really like it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I know. And I, I, I, I just felt like I like missed it. You know, when like someone's like, everyone's like 10 episodes in, you're like, I'm just, I'm on. It was like, I'm off the train now.
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Session 61: Ross Lynch
But Mike White, the creator, I really adore. Yeah, he's been in the industry forever. Forever. Has he ever created a show before? Or is this his first show? I want to say he created this show called Enlightened with Laura Dern. It's great. It's all about capitalism and the corporate world. And he has this really beautiful monologue in it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
um called the ghost is seen and it's like one of the most beautiful does anyone know what i'm talking about no it's really moving i'll send it to you after this it's like one of the most moving television model it's basically his character in the show is like uh very introverted and it's very sad and like he has this really moving monologue and it's just a great show it's one of the best season two of enlightened is one of the best seasons of television i've ever seen is it on hbo yeah it's max
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I might be lying, but I don't think I'm lying. And it's really, really, really good. Well, Lauren Dern is just fantastic.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I do actually want to watch that. There's this new show called Paradise. Okay. I love a government thriller. Give me a government thriller. I'm obsessed with Paradise right now. It's on Hulu and it's just an easy one. Wow. It's easy. It's great. Where do you find the time? Honestly. Well, I don't connect with nature, so I use that time instead to watch television.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Can I use the restroom real quick? Please. I'm going to be right back. Hit my puff.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Talk about a movie that I thought would get more attention and didn't. The Way of Water? The Way of Water. Never saw it. Oh, really? I saw the original Avatar maybe four times, and it also wasn't by choice.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
It was one of those movies where it was like, you have to go because it's about to break the record for highest grossing film in the world, so you just have to go again and again and again and again. It's like, why? Oh, seriously? Yeah, and I didn't love it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I don't know. I think it was just part of a movement.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
But the third one's going to be, have you seen Dune?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
So, yeah, but peeing is the best feeling in the entire world.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Well, I just feel bad because you're my guest and I probably shouldn't be interrupting you is what Louise says to me all the time. But it just comes out. It just means I'm invested and I'm listening. Yeah, and you got something to say. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, and what I was going to say was when you have anxiety, oftentimes your anxiety can get mixed up with your intuition so you don't know which one to listen to.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Well, does smoking weed – Made it so much better without it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I was super paranoid. I was always questioning everything. I have this comedy album called Puss in Poems.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, and I didn't want to put it out every time I smoked. And I was like – Oh, shit. And I was like, it's too late. I've made it. So I've made the album. Like, so – I can't even have these thoughts because they're useless to me. The album's coming out. Yep.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Like, we don't need to do five days. We could do, like, two nights.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
No. Why would that ever be enjoyable? How do you hike on a water fast?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
No phone. Can I bring like a camera to record my experience?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
All of a sudden we're getting there and it's like on your forearm. Yeah, it's on my forearm. It's in my head. Like if I'm coming with you to Yosemite, the phone's staying home, but I am bringing a little camera just to remember our experience.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
But I don't know if for me, missing the gym would cause me... Well, I'm feeling that right now, low-key, because I injured myself playing hockey.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Oh, because you grew up in Colorado. Well, you didn't grow up in Colorado.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah. I like it. Yeah. It was, it was really cool. Wow. And, um, it was beautiful. And I was like, I skied every day. It was really good for my mental health.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I didn't really advance to the chairlift until the last day, but my, uh, it's the instructors named Adrian. You would love him. He has a zip line course in Mallorca. Whoa. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. No, he like owns it. So half the year he spends on his zip line course in Mallorca. And then the other half he spends in Courchevel, France. Wow. It's like, that sounds like a nice life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah. And he just skis, but he, I, he would have to ski backwards while I skied forward, holding onto him. Cause I would fall. That's kind of cute. It was really cute. We were best friends.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Well, 30s apparently are the new 20s, so I'll take it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
My tummy what's wrongs. Oh. This one's messy. Oh, boy. I need help. Oh, my God. I literally know what to prescribe. Sorry. I'm abroad right now, and I keep seeing my best friend and boyfriend back at home posting pictures really close to each other. There is a rumor that they are hooking up. What do I do? Well, you seem to think you had the remedy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
There is a movie with Emma Roberts called Wild Child. Okay. And do you know? You should watch that movie. And in the movie... Her best, she goes abroad.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Hook up and cheat on her. So I think your boyfriend is cheating on you with your best friend.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
And I don't mean to be the bearer of bad news. But in this case, it will be. I think it's the truth.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
version for that person personally 100% so what you have to do is you have to get a friend that is a spy and you have to hire a PI dude and you have to get this friend oh that's so tough maybe follow your boyfriend's car one day or follow that girl's car if you do that you're gonna find what you're looking for
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
So maybe we have this as a call to action for the pussies. Maybe a little more context is necessary. Potentially, because there's a lot of... I think if you want to ask the pussies for more context, they'll give it to you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Okay, cool. That wasn't like the PSA I was hoping for, but it was the PSA I got. Okay. Sorry. No, it's okay. My sister is 35 and dating a 22-year-old. It would be fine, but he is a freak. He is in love with playing disc golf and spits in a can 24-7. One time he overheard me talking about his hideous neon yellow jacket, and now it is awkward. I love this girl.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I've told her I don't like him, but she continues to bring him around all the time. What should I do? It's not your problem.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
But there's nothing you can do. Gossip is human nature. And you didn't like his hideous neon yellow jacket.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
If she did not like her neon jacket, it would be war. He's done. But she does not like his neon jacket. I don't think jackets are meant to be neon yellow unless it's a raincoat. That is definitely a loud color. It's a loud color and it's for raincoats. I actually bought a neon, not neon, a very bright yellow jacket because the main character in Dark.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I think it starts with a T. T, and what is, like, the vibe?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
No, but also that. And it finally rained the other day and I pranced around in my yellow rain jacket and I felt like Curious George. Nice. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
So I'm pretty used to that. So when did you gain your autonomy back over picking out what you wore?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Do you appreciate it now you think more than you would if you, like, always had the option? Like, do you have a special appreciation for picking out your clothes because there was a time period where you couldn't?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Well, you don't really remember life before it, do you?
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Session 61: Ross Lynch
But like it happened pretty early on for me. Do you think you want to do this forever? Do you think you want to kind of aspire for some normalcy at some point in your life?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
But, uh, I, I'm, I, I'm very, um, I love the tension.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah. Like, like to my core, if I could eat it for dinner, like that's a fast.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Most people do. I do. I love it. It's interesting. My, Best friend is a Capricorn and she like lives off attention as well.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah. So do you, but like, do you ever miss it when you don't have it for a minute? Like when you're not touring? Or you're not putting out music or there's just like a moment of silence. So you're like, damn, I kind of miss the attention that comes with that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
That's the feeling that I get. Well, I don't personally know what you mean no, but like I can see how that's probably the healthy way to think.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Help. I feel like I'm constantly putting more effort into my relationships and friendships and I don't know how to fix it. I can't just drop all my friends, but it's incredibly draining, and I'm just so over it. Have you ever been in a situation where you put more effort in?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
No, no, no, no, no, no. We just weren't working as friends. It was younger. I've had plenty of friendship breakups.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I'll go to Yosemite, but you know what you need to do for me then? What? Real Housewives of New York. Okay.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
We'll binge watch it in the van. You need to sit with me and you need to watch, I want to say the entirety of, when is Jill and Bethany's breakup? Season three, right? You want me to watch three seasons without a TV? No, no, no, no, no, no. We can just start with... Oh, no. Or we can watch... You know what? You know what? We are going to watch Salt Lake City. Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Salt Lake City, Atlanta, New York, New Jersey, Potomac, Beverly Hills.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I've seen most of them, yeah. I'm not in its entirety. There used to be Dallas. I think that was like one season. There was Dubai. There's Miami.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Housewives will change your life. I know you think, oh, this is so not me, but a lot of men love housewives. I can get down with a little bit of reality TV. No, no, no, no. You don't understand this. You watch Housewives? It's just, like, totally petty, huh? No, it is an examination of the human psyche. It's Marvel for gay people. It's literally, like, it will change every part of your being.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
If you guys can't tell just a little. So much so that Zach has asked me, hey, are you taking your meds? I don't know what's going on. So I'm thinking that I'm going to have a call with a new psychiatrist. Sometimes I just feel like with psychiatrists, It's like you're just, like, pushing drugs onto me. Like, you know in Mean Girls where Tina Fey's like, I'm a pusher.
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Session 61: Ross Lynch
Like, I don't know how to describe how amazing this show is.
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Session 61: Ross Lynch
There are these two best friends, Lisa and Meredith, right? Okay, and they are like, oh, well, actually, you know what? This isn't going to hook you. This will hook you. There is this woman named Jen Shaw, okay? This is, like, what really, really, like, I always watched Housewives as a kid. This really dove me in. She was committing fraud against the elderly.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
She gets arrested by the FBI on camera. They're filming. And she gets arrested in a raid on the sprinter van while they are filming.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
They have, like, hidden... Oh, because they... Oh! So, like, Jen Shah, she gets a call.
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Session 61: Ross Lynch
And she's like, uh-huh, uh-huh. And then she leaves the Sprinter van. Five minutes later, an entire swarm of FBI agents show up. And they're like, where the fuck did Jen Shah go? And everyone's like, wait, she just left. And they're like, she's literally under arrest. And she is in jail now. Wow.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
No, fraud is no joke. And... But anyway... What I was going to say was the friendship breakup I was thinking about was Lisa and Meredith because there was a moment where Lisa forgot to take her mic off.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
You are missing out, Ross. Oh, my God. Like, seriously?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
No, that's not a red flag at all. That's actually probably a really good thing. I get that vibe from you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Am I your friend? Yeah, yeah, for sure. You wouldn't say that about me, right? No, no, I would never say that about you, but I would say you were my friend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, I got the two confused.
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Session 61: Ross Lynch
No, no, no. outrageous it's outrageous right for sure but good tv now 100 we'll watch this paint this pains me to say but i've been dating the same guy for the past did we ever answer the last one oh um no what was it what was it oh it was her friends oh she puts too much effort in oh you gotta let them as mel robbins would say let them Let them go? No, like let them do their thing and, you know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
And like, we'll come to you, we'll come to you. Stop over putting in time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah. Oh, love that energy. This pains me to say, but I've been dating the same guy for the past five years, and he's not the best at showing affection to me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Break up. And I've been feeling super weird about it. How do I tell my boyfriend I need more effort? I think you break up.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah. I was gonna say that I also used to do A road trip when I was a kid from New York to L.A. every summer. Oof. Yeah. It was five nights, and sometimes we would do the drive from Colorado to L.A. in one shoot. Yeah, that's what we did. What is that, like 17 hours? Yeah, I made my dad do it once because I was like the fourth day, and I was like, if I am in this car another day, I'll spiral.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Really? I'm so excited for you. I've been infatuated. Never in love. I'm excited for myself too. I just, I don't know. As I said, I think God is like not yet, sweet cheeks.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I just think like, Louise, imagine me heartbroken. Oh no. I'm very dramatic.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Well, I think I think about worst case scenario. Okay. And like the second someone starts showing me affection, I'm like, goodbye.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yes. You're so wise. And we're back. What was that?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I think we're going to different clubs. I think you're going to cooler clubs than I'm going to.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
No, it's from Reputation, so 2017. See, I know what that record is.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
She is. She's like the best. That album is just life-changing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
And then there was a Taylor album, and what else? Who else released last year? There was a million people that released. It was just, it was a great, great year for pop.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
But you should, if you ever feel like being messy, you should listen to Brat.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
It's such an album that if you're going all in, you're all in. And it's a mindset. The whole album, I think that's why it resonated so well. Because people committed to the mindset of Brat.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I don't remember the last time an album really shifted culture in a way that Brat did.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
albums i think do that but just on different levels yeah but i think for an album to really be successful it has to do that to some capacity right it's like beyonce self-titled when she did or lemonade when she did a visual album like that shifted culture in the sense that she surprise dropped it so that brought back a surprise that brought surprise drops people started releasing music on thursday nights as opposed to monday nights i'm pretty sure don't quote me and like she kind of
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I don't know. I think she, like, at the time of that Beyonce album, it was a lot of, like, she says this, like, single, single, single, single, single, and she kind of brought back the idea of, like, a real and true album. You listen to Bon Iver?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Damn. So I made him drive 17 hours straight. What was the reason for the commute? My dad just didn't—I don't know. I think he thought it'd be bonding, and he didn't want to get a rental car in L.A., so he wanted to keep his car. He didn't want to ship it. Oh, you only did that one time? No, we did it four or five times. Damn. One time we did it with a dog. Have you ever done it with a dog? No.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
My boyfriend has this new job, and I'm really proud of him. He wanted it, and he deserves it. However, it's taking up a lot of time and headspace now, so much so as he forgot our anniversary this weekend. Best prescription. Like, I want him to be happy, but is that unacceptable? Yes, it's unacceptable. It reminds me of the Devil Wears Prada. Have you ever seen the Devil Wears Prada?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I have, yeah, yeah, but not in a long time. Do you remember when she forgets his birthday? Because she's at, like... Not the Met Gala, but she's at some very important thing with Meryl Streep, and... I think maybe a little slack can be cut the first time around.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I think if he's a loving and caring boyfriend all around, you can definitely cut some slack.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
But I think going forward, like, it's a priority. But I think, you know, when you're starting out a new job and it's hard, like, there is something to be said for working for yourself. Yeah. And, like, if that's the only issue you're having, then. I don't think it doesn't mean he doesn't love you. I just think it means he really cares about what he's doing right now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
She's just like, I want him to be happy, but is that unacceptable? I don't think it's unacceptable that he missed it. I think it's an issue, but no relationship is clean of that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
That's what I think about that. Interesting. And I prescribe the Devil Wears Prada. You should really watch it. Yeah, that's a good movie. I fell in love with a guy that made it clear he only wanted friends with benefits. He lives in another state and we talk all the time. He sends so many mixed signals one minute. Oh, he sends so many mixed signals.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
One minute he wants to be with me and the next we're just friends. Should I walk away now or get with him and hope something stems from that?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I would prescribe probably No Strings Attached or Friends With Benefits, which actually, and I've said this during the last episode, came out during the same summer. You don't know what I'm talking about. No. It's okay. That's what I prescribe. Nice. Well, that was our last Tell Me What's Wrong. That's it? I mean, there's a few more, but I just didn't deal with them. Dang it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I had one the other night. I was like really self-pitying myself after the bar one night. And... I was like, damn, I'm really playing victim right now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
um reasonable response it's like when when when can you actually say well i am being treated unfairly poorly um i think when it like overtakes your life and you're just complaining about stuff that's fixable then that's a problem that's 100 that's what i do so i was in the car and i was like okay well i know that this victim mentality i have right now like when it's based on like oh that's not fair mm-hmm
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
That's a victim mentality. And like, that's what I was having the other night. I was like, that's not fair. And it's like, well, life isn't fair.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
It's brutal. And then one time we went to a hotel and there was bed bugs at the hotel and we had to leave at 2 in the morning. It's very hard to find a hotel in the middle of nowhere sometimes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah. I think it's just about how you talk to yourself, how you talk to yourself for sure.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I'm so excited for summer. Are you excited for summer?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I'm excited for tour. I've never to tour in the summer. Sounds fun. And. I'm going to go to Europe for a little, and I'm going to go be messy. I have a wedding there.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I'm going to be in France in June. Okay. And then after my tour ends in July, I would like to go to Italy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I learned that your loafers are also comfortable, even though they're very big on me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
And they also don't look bad on me. I learned that I kind of look good in loafers.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, I'm definitely enjoying these loafers. I also learned that we're going to go to Yosemite.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
And now I'm like every hotel I go to, I think there's bed bugs.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Honestly, you're going to love it. You're going to hate that you love it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah. But then you're going to start like rationalizing with them.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Like you're like, pick a side. Yes. Always. And you're going to start being like, well, Bethany should have done this, that, and the third. And like, you know, it's, you're going to love it. You're going to love it. Okay. Start with Salt Lake. Trust. Okay. And we also learned that. The pussy needs to give more context.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I really think that isn't something we can all work on.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
No, we would be here for the summer. Oh, okay, okay. So we would get a house and be here for the whole summer.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, I once got it. I think I've had some in the past.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah. Well, Ross, thank you for coming on Therapist. Yeah, thanks for having me. You can listen to Ross's new album with his, he's half of the band The Driver Era with his brother. It's called Obsession. It's out April 11th. Yep. And He's back on tour in March. Yep. You can see him then. Yep.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah, it was really fun. I mean, road trips are fun, maybe just not five days. I had an iPod, so I enjoyed myself. Yeah, back in the iPod days. Yeah, and I would listen to a lot of Victorious. Nice. A lot of Lady Gaga, some Taylor Swift. Randomly, Kendrick Lamar was like 12. No way.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I thought all the early ones had the little like. Yeah, I think I'm lying. But I think it's like I had the one that was like a square.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah. But I feel like album art has always been a part of everything, whether it's a CD or a vinyl.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Yeah. When's the last time that happened to you? It happens all the time, I feel like. It doesn't happen to me a lot. Really? But when it does happen, like, it hits so hard. Oh, yeah, yeah. Like, do you know Blue the Tiger? The bass player?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
She has this song called You Say, and I heard it live once, and, like, that was the last time I really heard a song live, and I was like, that's amazing. Really? Yeah, and then I also heard the new Sabrina Carpenter deluxe tracks that I really liked those. You were about to say something.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Like, that's, like, what these psychiatrists feel like to me. Like, I'll talk to them for five minutes and they'll be like, okay, so this is what I'm going to prescribe you. This, that, and the third. And I'm like, but you don't even fucking know me. Like, how are you going to give me all these meds? You don't know me. That is something wrong with the American pharmaceutical system.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I like having a good time too, but I guess... That does make sense for what alcohol entails. What's your drink of choice?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
Like, what are you like, okay, I'm on the verge of blacking out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I used to black out. There was a weird period of my life when I was in college that every time I drank, I could have one shot and I just wouldn't remember the night. Oh, damn. I think it burned a hole in my brain. Yikes. Body eating spirits. Yeah, that's wild. Yeah. So wait, you're saying one shot. No, it was like three and I was done. Damn.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
And I think it's actually incorrect. And I'm not afraid to say it. So... um okay I'm having fun with this though for sure uh what else is up with me if you guys are listening to this on Spotify or Apple um I have been uploading tour vlogs what we just did week one and it's really funny and it's I like it. So give it a watch whenever you get the chance, if you want to.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
But that's because, like, I think it must – it was just, like, something was wrong, and then I stopped drinking all of COVID because, like, what was the point? And then I came back, and I still continued to black out. And then eventually I just stopped. I had this one blackout that, like, ruined my life, and I was like, okay, I need to – Maybe, like, eat before or something?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I used to smoke every single day, morning to night, for the last five years. Whoa.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
And I said, um, not on my watch. And so I stopped smoking weed. Okay. Wow. Five years straight though. That's pretty. It was my everything.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
I feel like that's just in your head. I also agree with you now, but if you asked me that three months ago, I wouldn't have agreed with you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
It's definitely addictive. For the first week after I quit, I was, like, itching. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 61: Ross Lynch
And I was like, this isn't right. And, like, now when I get really, really stressed out, all I want to do is smoke weed. And that feels like addiction. But I still haven't smoked because all I have to do when I think I want to smoke is look at an old photo of myself. Oh, whoa. Yeah. Well, how long has it been? Three months. Oh, nice. It was just, like, my face was so puffy. Mm-hmm.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Hi, pussies, and welcome back to Therapist. Today, well, let's take it back, shall we? Last season, we had a DJ on, John Summit, and it ended up being one of my favorite episodes of the season. And I knew for season two of Therapist, I wanted to have another DJ on just because I feel like there's no one in this world I am more different than.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
So, but, like, what, when did you start? I'm kidding. My mom wasn't so human. What? Like, I don't judge. I don't. Yes, I do.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
So you started smoking before you were drinking or you were already drinking at that age?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Okay, okay. Yeah. My favorite was... I miss it so much. Indica was my favorite because sativa would give me I get like borderline schizophrenic. So and because that's my number one fear, I was like, I got to stop. And I was also getting a lot of weight on it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
That is so funny you say that. It was so bad for sleep for me. I had constant nightmares that I was in a cult that was underground. Sorry I lied for entertainment purposes. It was one time. But after that, after that, I stopped smoking forever. I guess it's been two months. I seriously, I miss it so much. I can't even put it into words.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
I wish I was high right now more than anything in the entire world. I would shave my head if it meant I could smoke with no repercussions. I would. It would give you bad dreams. Do you smoke weed, Eli? Okay, how do you and your manager know each other? He hit me up on Instagram. After Love Story? Or after Baby Girl?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
I think you really are. No, I'm serious. I was talking to my friends about this. I was like, why do I feel like he's about to have such a fucking moment after Coachella? Maybe even before, but I'm telling you, like, I'm so excited for your Coachella set.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
And what I can download on my phone and what I have downloaded is the Allo Moves app, which provides users... with meditation exercises and just physical exercises in general that you can do every single day or night with someone alone and there's an Allo trainer there to guide you along the way through this entire exercise.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Okay. Okay. You don't like go to sleep and like bite your nails and like think about anxiety?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
What were some of the stories? I used to do that. Really? I still do that. All the time. I always come up with stories before I go to bed.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Okay. So like my stories I tell is like, I have a boyfriend and he's taking me out to dinner and then we go home and go to sleep. And I pretend that he's laying next to me. Those are the stories I tell myself. And I fall asleep really quickly.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
No. Never have. Damn. Have you ever had a girlfriend? Yeah, I've had girlfriends. Like long-term relationship girlfriends? Yeah. Okay. Just wondering. When was your last relationship?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Okay, so you have trust issues, or you knew you were going to misbehave, and you wanted to end it before? You can be honest. You ended it. The latter. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Well, I mean, you ended it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Whether you're starting out or super advanced, they have classes that range from five minutes to an hour, beginner to expert, whatever you need, you name it, Allo Moves has it. You guys know I like to do my HIIT workouts, my Pilates workout at the Aloe Gym, so this is literally the same exact thing, just on the go.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Yeah, I mean, the tattoo. Imagine, like, finding out your ex got a tattoo in relation to you that says nothing matters after. Damn. Damn. Yeah. Nothing matters, including that relationship, evidently.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
I want that to happen again for you. Do you feel like you fucked it up?
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Session 56: Disco Lines
What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you? I don't know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
So have you ever thought about like sliding back in?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Something I'm also actually very excited to try out, especially on the road, is the Aloe Moves Art of Sleep series because I have so much trouble falling asleep on the road because I'm so revved up. So I'm excited to see how the Art of Sleep series can, like, help me... calm down before bed and just get a better night's rest. Reset your personal wellness routine with Allo Moves.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
You deleted her number? Yeah. As if she fucked you over. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
I don't mean to yell at you. I just, why Thaddeus?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Do you? I'm like speechless right now. Can I be honest? I think you put John Summitt's flower story to shame with that one. Yeah. Hopefully. That was humbling. That was fucking humbling.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Okay. How young, what are your, what, did your younger brothers go to Boulder as well?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
My mom is a writer, and my dad's a writer. My mom's getting into writing. She is. Fiction, nonfiction? My mom writes about finance. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. And then my dad.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
No, not really. Do you read? So it's so funny you asked about that, yes, because I did not read for, what did we say, since 2012. I didn't read since 2012. And I recently just read my first novel, and I totally forgot.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Yeah. How do you see your business and your brand developing over the next few years?
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Session 56: Disco Lines
Go to allomoves.com and use code THERAPUS for an exclusive 30-day free trial and 20% off an annual membership. That's allomoves.com, code THERAPUS. That's allomoves.com, code THERAPUS. Hi pussies! Welcome back to Therapus. Today we have one of my favorite DJs, As you all know, I am new to the DJ scene, but I love it. And through being new to the DJ scene, I found one of my favorites, Disco Lines.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
We kind of are. Fashion. Can you see? Nolan, can they see? Okay.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Girl. Yeah. Please. Cheers. Eyes, Thaddeus. I'm bad at eyes. You're bad at eyes. I'm, like, seriously not over your ex-girlfriend. Like, that breaks my heart.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
How do you not have a boyfriend? How do I not have a boyfriend? I don't know. I try.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
No, no, no. I need, like, the love of my life, since we're talking about that, was this guy. I'm going to kill myself thinking about it. We hooked up twice. And he was everything to me. He worked in finance. We met on Grindr. And he, like, he was so, like, Like, chill, but, like, obviously, like, knew how to party.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Well, he used to be heavily addicted to drugs, so, like, I loved the trauma of it all. And, like, I was just obsessed with him. And, like, that's what I need. A drug addict? Well, not anymore. This is Manny, by the way. I met her earlier. Oh, okay. She's awesome. She is literally the greatest of all time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
It was sitting outside. You know what? You can just give that to me. Thank you so much.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
A little. How? I don't know. I think you make me nervous. You just said fucking Katy Perry on before me. There's no way I make you nervous. Oh, well, you'd be surprised. Well, she made me nervous too. Okay, so you were saying, didn't you release an album yet? What was the reason? I have hundreds of songs that I've never put out. Do you have any name titles that you are thinking of?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
I'm obsessed. Updog? Why is that everything? I know you agree. I'm obsessed too. It feels so on brand with you. I just made that up. Do you actually like that? Fuck you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Oh, okay. You just wanted to put it on a billboard in your name.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
And when did you – did you start making music in college or in high school? In high school. Okay. What inspired you to make music?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
But like what caused you to like, was there like a song? Was there an artist? Like what?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Can I hear it? I don't have it. Okay. I have a question for you because I still don't know the answer of what this means. When you go back to back with somebody as a DJ, what does that mean?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Do you want me to call you Disco Lines or Thaddeus?
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Session 56: Disco Lines
It was just like so brat. That was my brat weekend. We went to the show. John got a plane and we flew, me, Ashton, and him to the Hamptons. And we partied in the Hamptons the next day.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Oh, textio. Does he answer your FaceTimes? Because he never answers mine.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
I think I just lied. I'm sorry. Yeah. Why did you guys break up?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
I want to hit you. I want to hit you. Go ahead. No. Oh, my God. You weren't attracted to her anymore? That's satanic.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Are you hearing this, Louise? Yeah. Are you? Yeah. Okay.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
I don't mind it. I get Puss. Well, my real name is Jacob. Do you have a nickname for Thaddeus? Thad. Thad. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Honest to God, at least you're honest. But, like, that just breaks my heart.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Are you going down this path of you hate monogamy?
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Session 56: Disco Lines
Okay, do I think humans are meant to be in relationships for life? No, I don't.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
I don't think humans are meant to do anything. Humans aren't like... Like, they're just meant to, like, exist, right? It's, like, up to us, the rules we create.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
A hundred percent. That's all subjective. Like, I might not want kids. I do want kids. I want kids. You know the TikTok thing that's like, I want to have another baby. No, I want to travel. Have you seen that? Fuck you guys.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
I need five seconds to collect myself. Let's talk. baby girl. How did that come about? How did you create that? When did you realize it was popping off? I want to know everything.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
It is a great song. It really made its way through L.A.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Where'd you go to college? I went to Boulder. Mm-hmm. Where'd you go? I see that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Wait, do you have, like, a song that, like, you feel, like, is a hit that you just haven't released yet?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
No, it's not. Yeah, it's like you are here to just gas me up. Like, I seriously needed this. I needed this. It'd be a moment.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Like, I've sang my songs live. Would you, before this episode drops, like, remix one of those songs? Yeah. And we could release it with the episode?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
I'm back February 2nd. Okay. Do you want to ask where I'm going? Where are you going? France. For what? Skiing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
One time. I did miss a really good... Like, I missed a really good trip there once. All my friends went. And they said it was really fun. And you guys really partied hard there.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
One friend. My friend, her mom, our other friend, and their mom.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Wait, I'm serious. I want to release a Jake Shane disco line song with this episode.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
What was it like? Teaching or? So did you grow up skiing? I grew up skiing, yeah. I think I'm a lot drunker than you are right now and I'm starting to have like really bad, no, no, no pressure, no pressure.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Yes. Thank you. Cheers. Eyes. You know it's seven years of bad sex and bad luck if you don't do eyes. I didn't know that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
I'm so serious. Like, the last time I can remember having, like, actual enjoyable intercourse was the time I lost my virginity to a 39-year-old when I was 21.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
And he was lovely-ish. He lied to me about his age. He told me he was 32, but I'd already Googled him before, so I knew he was 39. Mm-hmm. When did you lose... I was 21. When did you lose your virginity?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
I don't think... Well, maybe for you that was true, but I don't think... For me, that was true. I grew up in New York, so. Fair enough. What do you want to talk about now? I don't know. Can I ask you, can I ask you what you're therapist about? Yeah, go ahead. You go first. Okay, so I got a new phone. I was so pumped about this new phone.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
But I kept putting on, like, putting off, like, downloading it and, like, doing it, which I shouldn't have because I did it last night and TikTok doesn't work on my new phone. So every time I want to use TikTok, I have to use my old phone. So, like, I have two phones now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
And, like, while you can say that's a career milestone, like, for me it's annoying and very frustrating because I forget oftentimes when I'm on my old phone that it's my old phone.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
This is the beginning of a seriously beautiful friendship.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
I said he's like... I think you're under... I know Davis Freeman extremely well.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Yes. Oh, really? Yes! No, I know Davis Freeman. I've known him since I was 18 years old.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
No, I'm... I've stopped recently. Well, like... Like, I... But I did black out a lot. I have, like, a lot of stories of me blacking out. And, like, there was... There's a few times where I'm, like... I woke up and I was, like, I can never drink again. And... No, I do. I black out. Long story short, yes. You've never blacked out before?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Oh, okay. Well, when's the last time you blacked out?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Okay, what's the craziest time you've ever blacked out and you woke up and you were like, what the fuck?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Louise would slash your tires. Are you looking for love right now?
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Session 56: Disco Lines
Yours is right there. Eyes. Okay, so you studied computer science.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
I'm... Sorry, I'm a little drunk. I'm now just putting it together. Why were you DJing the Kansas State Fair?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Thank you for coming. Thank you. You want to go to what?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Have you ever met an Amish person before? No. Are you Christian?
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Session 56: Disco Lines
You have the craziest lore out of anyone I've ever met in my entire life. Yeah. And you know who I'm still thinking about? Who? Who do you think? One, two, three, Genevieve. Taylor Swift.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
And I've been listening to Disco Lines music a lot, and I knew that I wanted to have him on the show. So today, for our DJ of the season, we have Disco Lines. And we also have Matt in the room with us today. Hi, Matt. Hey. Are you hungry?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
I just would like you to know that merch specifically was the first puss merch I've ever, ever, ever made.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
No. But that's the first puss merch I ever, ever had made. And I was a senior in college.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
No, I started last year. I started like a year ago.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Puss brand was since September of 2021. Yep. Okay. So... Do you know about the Tell Me What's Wrongs?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Okay. So they're telling you what's wrong. Like, they... Oh, my God, Louise. This one is from someone named Louise. No. Swear to God. So this, they, the pussies submit, tell me what's wrongs and we like give them advice.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Damn. Yeah. I majorly fucked up by sleeping with my best friend. He and I were super close and always flirty and touchy, but ever since we crossed the line, it has been awkward and horrible. Is there any way for me to get my best friend back? Please help. Love, Louise.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Like, what do I do? How do I get my best friend back?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
So this guy I was supposed to be casual with laughed all... I don't understand this one.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
My boyfriend met up with his ex and did not tell me. His excuse was she was in a bad place because her boyfriend broke up with her that night and he was the only one who was still up. If you were with someone and your ex-girlfriend texted you and was like, I need you, like, would you show up?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
She's like, what do I do? I would break up with them.
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Session 56: Disco Lines
I cheated on everything. Really? I stand by it to this day. To what level though?
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Session 56: Disco Lines
I always get the biggest crushes on DJs. But I'm afraid they're too cool for me or won't want anything to do with me. Or maybe I'm just in my head. God, please help. How do I approach Tom?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
You know, he doesn't answer me, but he would answer you.
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Session 56: Disco Lines
He does call me Honey Bun. I'm serious. Like, I feel this is the start of, like, a really beautiful friendship. I would love to come on stage with you, and I will be at your Coachella set. Let's go. My New Year's resolution is to not get with any men as I'm going abroad for a year in September and don't need that stress. Any help?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
If I was going abroad, my resolution would be to fuck anyone I could.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
I would prescribe them... Men. Men, but I don't know. Like, if I was going abroad, like, my ideal thing would be, like, I'd want to hook up with someone.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Right. Do you, like, meet a lot of people on tour? How do you meet them?
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Session 56: Disco Lines
But most of my fans are women, so it's not like... We're in the same boat. Okay. I matched with this guy on a dating app. He ended up being a catfish. Oh, that happened to me once. But he's still, like, kind of hot. Oh. No, like, I was fully catfish once, and it was really embarrassing. Do I add things or keep talking to him?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Public relations. I was like a communications girlie.
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Session 56: Disco Lines
It's good. What are you doing for your birthday this year?
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Session 56: Disco Lines
Shut the fuck up. I don't even want the words to leave my mouth because it's so not. I don't even want to get my hopes up with, you know what I'm about to ask. Do you watch Housewives? No. No girl you've ever been with watches Housewives? No, I don't think so. What do you watch? Ratatouille.
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Session 56: Disco Lines
Would you ever watch a show that's in another language and you need subtitles?
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Session 56: Disco Lines
There's this show called Dark. I love Dark. The German one? Don't fucking play with me. That's my favorite show of all time.
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Did you watch all three seasons? I didn't make it through. We watched it in college, though. What seasons did you watch? The first one. Thaddeus, it only gets better. Like, seriously, it's the greatest show I've ever seen in my life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
What? Beast Games. Okay, why did you stop watching Dark? That's one of my favorite shows of all fucking time. And all three seasons are equally as beautiful.
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Session 56: Disco Lines
What's your favorite movie of all time? I can imagine that.
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Session 56: Disco Lines
I don't think I've ever seen Superbad. No way. But I've seen Fight Club. Do you like Seth Rogen? I love Seth Rogen. I'm sure you love comedy. I do love comedy. But I like female comedy. I don't think men are very funny. Why do you think that is? I don't know. I think females are – I think women are, like, very, very, very funny. Like, Bridesmaids is one of my favorite movies of all time.
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Session 56: Disco Lines
Okay. On pink dresses. What? Yeah. Yeah, where she shits in the dress. Yeah, it's incredible. I don't know why I think that. I just don't laugh at, like, boy humor.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
I've smiled at Shane Gillis. I've laughed at Shane Gillis probably very hard. I don't think I've ever seen a Chris D'Elia set.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
But I laugh very hard. I think Shane Gillis is very funny.
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Session 56: Disco Lines
No, I'm going to do more because I think, sorry, spoiler alert, but I think we are going to do the UK and all that stuff in the fall. So, yeah. Yeah. I guess this year, 40, 50 or something.
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Session 56: Disco Lines
A lot of crowd work. Like the Tell Me What's Wrongs are very crowd work-y. I have like stories I tell. I perform my songs.
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Session 56: Disco Lines
I'm completely dead. Like we'll go out to dinner as a team and I'll leave right after I finish my entree. Really? I get up and I just go back to the bus and I fall asleep. Do you bus? Do you tour with a bus?
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Session 56: Disco Lines
Mm-hmm. I love the bus. Wait, I have to pee really bad.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Fuck, dude. Yeah, I would hope that. I don't know, actually. What doctor was your grandpa?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Watching what? Dancing with the Stars? Oh, they weren't really watching, they were just chatting.
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Yes. Just like you, I live with my three best friends.
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Losing my mind because my guy friend of eight plus years and I have this awful will they, won't they thing going. We don't live in the same city anymore, but every time he comes back, I swear I'm living out Tis the Damn Season in real life. You know what Tis the Damn Season is, do you?
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Like, I'm telling you, Thaddeus, like, if I put you on to certain Taylor Swift songs, like, I think you'd really fucking get into it. If you remixed Tis the Damn Season, like, my life would change.
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When is this due? I'll do it in the evening. Do you want to get home? I will also do this tonight. Do not bail on me.
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I appreciate you. And that was it for the time we went through that. Did we answer one? We answered one. What did we learn today, Thaddeus?
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That's a wrap. I have learned. Thank you for tuning in to Two Peas and Paw. This has been Jake Shane. No, I have learned.
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I literally, when I said that, I was like, he definitely died. I'm so sorry.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
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At this rate, yeah. Where are you from? Colorado. You're from Colorado? Denver, yeah. Denver. Okay. Your family's still there?
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Sorry, I almost said Thaddeus, but it's Thaddeus. What? You guys, stop. I get nervous around DJs. I can't help it. Yeah? Yeah. I've actually heard you were very close with John Summitt. I love John. Yeah.
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Yeah, well. And have you guys ever collaborated before? No. Have you guys performed together ever?
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Yours starts in February. You should come. I am so down to come. Vegas shows are the most fun. I've been to one of his Vegas shows. Are you going to do day or night? I think it's, I don't know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
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Yes, and I know you're performing there as well. Let's go. Are you excited?
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Session 56: Disco Lines
Well, we have dinner at 5.30. This Disco Lines episode was honestly probably one of my favorites I've filmed so far for this season. It was really, really funny. We are very opposite. I think that's what makes us work. Also, reminder. God, Matt, you just reminded me. I am going on tour starting at the end of February, going until July. You can get your tickets at PassThatPuss.com.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Wow. I love the Sahara tat. I love the Sahara tat, too. Have you been to a show at the Sahara Town that's changed your life?
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That's really not really? Wait, why do you say that? I feel like they talk like you. I guess they're Australian, though, huh?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
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I'm down for these compliments. I love them. I love them. Okay, so before we started, you were telling me that you have not put out a debut album yet.
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Yes. Very big. The last album I listened to was like in full front to back was Calico by Ryan Beattie. And then obviously every single one of Taylor Swift's albums front to back. And then. I love Taylor.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
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That was my first introduction to her as well. Not at bowling, but yes, for that music video. I swear she wasn't my first crush, evidently, but like. You know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Well, no, I've never spoken poorly about her. Exactly.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Taylor Swift, Fearless, Speak Now, 1989. You don't know 1989? Probably Fearless. What's your favorite song?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Was your remix the one that went viral on TikTok where people, like, humped the phone?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
You know what I'm talking about? Where they would, like, and they would push the camera?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
It is going to be so fucking fun. Matt, are you excited? I can't wait. Are you so excited? Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Well, okay. So you released that and then did, and Baby Girl came out almost swiftly. Like two years later. Oh, two years later. Got it. Got it, got it, got it, got it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
When things are out of my control, do not laugh at me. When things are out of my control, there's nothing I can do about it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
There was literally nothing I could do about that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
And then the next morning, I was down for it. But like I was ready to touch grass. You know, I was really ready to touch grass. I was ready to like experience life. But then I got a new phone. And TikTok isn't downloading on my new phone. So I can only use TikTok on my old phone. So now I call it content phone. And I'm using TikTok a lot less and I'm a lot more present.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
This has been one day, by the way. Congrats. Thank you so much.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
I knew it won't work. I know, but it's just what you're programmed to do. It's an addiction. It's really gnarly. Do you have addictions? Do I have addictions? Yeah. Yeah. What are you addicted to? I was really addicted to weed.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Oh, my God. Why do I want to smoke right now? You're making me want to smoke.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
No, I've done half of the podcasts you've seen. I'm high. But actually, have you seen the podcast?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
That was one of the most fun I've ever had while recording. Really? Were you there for that, Luis? I've just never met someone so different. Yeah, we were so drunk. But yeah, I was really addicted to weed. I stopped smoking. When did I stop smoking? Early December. Early December I stopped smoking. And apparently it's been great. It doesn't feel great for me. Like I miss being high every day.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
I used to wake up and smoke throughout my entire day. Every single day.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Yes. I feel a little more manic. But like that mania leads me to production.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Got you. Tickets are available at past that. Yeah, really? You do? Tickets are available at pastthatpuss.com. Love you, pussies. Enjoy the episode. I'm going back on tour, which means I am not going to be near the gym I go to every single day. But what I am going to be near is my phone because I never stray from that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 56: Disco Lines
Oh, you text me back really fast. I like texting you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And then also, you must remember this. I started getting calls all of a sudden, and it was voicemails screaming into my phone. Do you not remember this? Screaming like for a week straight. I thought I was like my number. I thought I was getting human trafficked. Like I like thought like something was bad was happening.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Turns out there was posters at where we lived at the time posted everywhere around us. Chewbacca roar contest. Please call this number. And it was my, you don't remember this. And it was my fucking number. And it was people calling screaming into the phone.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Cammy! Oh! Cammy! That's so good. And I was like, who the fuck did this? Like, I know it was one of you. And at the time, we didn't know Cammy was such a prankster. After the People magazine prank... Oh, my God, that's so funny. You guys, like, I...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
No, that was like when I knew you had really bad anxiety. I was like, somebody has to call this prank off now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
She's such a great friend and I'm so excited for you guys to get to know her more if you don't know her already. She's incredible and I love her and I really think you're going to enjoy tonight's episode. I love you, pussy. Oh, as always, submit Tell Me What's Wrongs to PassThatPuss.com. Leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy. And yeah, enjoy the episode. Love you, pussies.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I was in, I was shaken. I was like, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what the truth is. Like this is online. This is online. Someone bamboozled me. Someone impersonated me. Like who the fuck is this? Who did this? We now know who it was. Period. We do.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
A prank for the ages. I think that was probably like the most anxious I've ever had. seen me and you, and I could feel it through a video. I wasn't even there. I just was getting sent videos from gammy. And I was like, I really think you have to tell him this is not real.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
It was just like, it was such a point of conversation. We were like, who is leaking that? Like, obviously it's none of us. Like, like, you know what I mean? Like talking to the press in that way takes so much time and energy and you have to like meet up with, and like, you know what I mean? It's like, who's actually doing this? And obviously everyone thought it was me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
But I really didn't know who it was for so long. I honestly thought it was. Actually, fuck it. Anyway.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
So you're a therapist about the fact that your kneecaps look weird.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I went to – okay, so I had three dentist appointments booked. I'm sorry to all the dentists that I canceled on. I obviously went to the worst one because it was the last one. It was my last chance to go to a dentist before I left for tour. And I walked into the dentist and, um, I could tell something was wrong right away. Um, do you know, uh, the palace, that restaurant?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Okay. It was in a, it was in a strip mall. And so I'm like, I'm, I'm walking up to the dentist.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
We'll cut that. And so it, I walked in and, they could take me right away. Like there was no, like, it was like, I was supposed to come in at three and I walked in at 11 and they were like, so fine. And I was like, so that's wrong. That's wrong. Um, I sit down and I'm doing these x-rays after I signed these papers, whatever, I'm doing these x-rays and then the dentist comes in and I've never seen.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Okay. So like, I've gone to a lot of, not a lot, but I've been to the dentist and, um,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
he's they've said to me like I've been like I want veneers and they're like they usually look out for you they're like I don't think you need that you know like you don't need that you're not your teeth aren't hurt like if you want to whiten them you can whiten them like you don't need that smile you have such cute teeth
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
No, my teeth are small and yellow, according to this dentist. And he kept saying, bro, bro, bro. And, like, fucking, like, pounding his tools in my mouth. And I was like... Oh, that sounded really wrong, but it was, it was what was happening. And he was like pounding them. And he was like, bro, like this doesn't upset you. Like you don't want to bite. You don't want to bleach your teeth.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
This doesn't upset you. Now it does. And then he, I have an in dead on one of my teeth. Like I've just had it since I was a kid. And he, he was like, Asking me if he wants to fill it right on the spot, which was so sketchy. It's like going to a psychiatrist and having them be, like, prescribed.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah. Because I feel like... Why is that? Because I feel like we're really similar in the way that, like, if somebody in the moment is telling us, like, this is really good for you, you should do this, like, because you don't want to upset that person, you're just like, okay, fine.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And he was, he started, and my number one pet peeve was like, my mouth was, he kept saying, open your mouth, bro. Open your mouth. Why does he talk like that?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And then he kept going into my mouth and talking to me and asking me questions. Like, while my mouth was open, which is, like, my number one pet peeve. Like, why are you asking me questions right now? I'm, like, mumbling answers. He's, like, so, like, what do you do? Uh, hug her? Like, that's what I said. I was, like, what? And then, oh, my God. And then what else did he do? It hurt.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Hi, pussies, and welcome back to Therapist. Today, we have such a special guest and such a dear friend, Olivia Jade. Welcome to Therapist.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And then, like, I kept, like, kicking my feet. Like, ow, ow. Because he was, like, oh, your nerves are exposed. Like, did you break your nose as a child? I was, like, what?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
How does that have anything to do with your teeth? Anything to do with my teeth.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
it was a really, really bad experience. I got home and was like, dentist can kick rocks. Like he was the, it was the worst dental experience I've ever had in my life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Dentist. I have a really great dentist. If you need in the future, he's in the Valley. He's really good.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Okay. I'm interested. Except my wisdom tooth recovery was like the worst thing in my whole life. But,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
You were like, I can't work out this week. I'm having a really bad reaction to my wisdom teeth. And I was like, you know what? She's probably being so dramatic. Like, as you can tell with the kneecap gate, like I was like, she's probably being so dramatic. No, no, no. She had a bad reaction.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Look. For like two weeks straight. And we kept saying like, it'll go down, it'll go down, it'll go down. What happened? You got a dry socket.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
It was the worst experience of my whole entire life. I don't know what happened. Basically anything that could have gone wrong.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And everybody told me it's, it's a walk in the park. It's so easy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah. But everybody else, so easy. Like it was my best friend's birthday in New York that weekend. And I thought, perfect. I'll get the surgery on Tuesday and I'll be in New York partying on Saturday. No, no, no.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Hi. Hey, Liz. Hey, Jake. Olivia and I go way back.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I don't know. I like weirdly think I share so much of my life, but at the same time, nobody knows anything about me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Such a good description. I don't know why. She is the most fun time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Because I get fucking twisted, bitch. Like, I'm, like, I'm, like, oh, my God. Like, especially, like, we just, like, go for it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Oh, no. I don't even know. I'm just going to tell the story. I don't even know if I want my parents to hear this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
We were partying. And, like, we were both, like, it was just a dark place.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
You make it sound like we're on, like, a fuck ton of drugs.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
We were just drunk and I, you know what? I'm not going to tell this story. How about that?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
We go way up. Olivia used to teach me how to vlog, and now I'm showing you how to podcast.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Oh, speaking of human trafficking, I thought you were going to get human trafficked.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I woke up and I was like, Olivia, I sucked dick in the hotel last night.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And I was like some 40 year old. And she was like, when did you have time to do that? We were together all night. I'm like, this was very my MO. Back in the day, like, I would pull some shit like that. And she was like, you cannot do this anymore.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I felt like a mom. I was like, never again. That's how you die.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And I almost did die. Speaking of songs, not that we were talking about songs, but for those, because I just cut out the story that I just told. But it led us to talk about music. What are you listening to right now, Liv?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I really like I'm addicted to Post Malone's album. It's sick. I think I've listened to it on. I need to see him. I need to see him.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
He was. And I did see him live then. But and I really liked Post Malone. But I don't think I was as hooked as I am in this current moment.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I love you have a pretty. But I like old music. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I was about to say, you know, you girl, you know, that's all I do. You listen to a lot of oldies. A lot of oldies.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Like, whenever we're in the car, like, it's always.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Sometimes I'll walk in and I'll look at her like, thank you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I got a new car. Shut up. It's outside. Wait, what? It's a Defender.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I told her, you got to get the Defender. It will look so good with you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah, I was a bit of a fame whore. Like, I was like, wait, give that to me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I'm so excited for you to see it. I'm excited. I have to pick you up for a workout.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
It's really cute. Anyway, what were we talking about before? Wisdom teeth?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Wisdom teeth and how your experience was just god-awful.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Oh, yeah. So I thought I would be in New York partying on Saturday.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
That's where we left off because I was... And I wasn't. It was the worst experience of my whole life. Basically, the dentist said that if... Like he had seen this once in his like 30 years of doing this. And I was like, oh, perfect. So let's say it's a Tuesday. I have my surgery. I'm like, I think I know what happened, actually. I remember my mom was watching me and she gave me yogurt.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
With me, Jake Shane. Hi, pussies. Welcome back to Therapus. I realized when, as the season has progressed, that I haven't done any of my life updates that I used to. So I thought now would be such a fun time to do some. I'm on day 11. By the time this airs, it'll be day 12 of not smoking weed anymore.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And I think it was the yogurt with the little strawberry. Yes, it was.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And I swallowed it. And I remember feeling like the strawberry went on my back left tooth. And I told her, I'm like, but I'm on so many drugs that. You know, I was like, I think it went back there. I don't really know. My mom's like, okay, well, hope for the best. I also got a gum graft at the same time, which is... What's a gum graft? Crazy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
It's when you have gum recession and they pull apart of your gum. Like, it's a whole nother surgery. But I decided since I was going under, like, do two at once. And, you know, two birds, one stone.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
You were like a natural. We should have seen this coming, honestly.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Does it still hurt? Are your nerves still exposed?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I'm fine now. But anyway, Tuesday I got the surgery. ate the strawberry went in the wrong part of my mouth. Then like Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, I woke up and the left side of my face just kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And it was just, it wasn't good. So then on Saturday I like called the dentist. I'm like, can you please meet me in the office? I think it's an emergency.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
We go in, I'm in excruciating pain. Um, I called more. I was on so many painkillers. I was, but it like, didn't even feel like anything. Like,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Oh, that is what you said. That is what you said after all this began. Yeah. Yeah, I used to take her camera and just pray that it made it in.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
It hurts so bad. I think that it just did its job. Like took some of the pain away. Anyway, I go in and they're like, okay, well you're going to have to come in for another surgery on Monday with a different doctor. So then they knock me out again on Monday, like six days after I had my last surgery. I'm like, great. So they knock me back out. This man knocks me out with ketamine. What?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah, because I had an infection. So my left side of my face was infected. And I guess when you have an infection, it's really hard to knock you back out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
With whatever they did the first time. Anesthesia? Yeah. Wait. Anesthesia? Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Anesthesia. Anesthesia. continue anyway um yeah so then i went back into surgery on that monday with a lot of ketamine and this was like a way darker experience for me waking up like the first time i got knocked out and woke up i was like laughing everything was great everything was funny best day of my life this day i was like crying at everything i thought my mom was gonna like call someone
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Just drop me off and leave me for dead at that point. Cause you were crying so hard. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
No, my mom, she took care of me. She slept on my couch every night, even though I kept trying to get her to sleep in bed with me, but she didn't want to because I think I was up so much like complaining.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
No. Well, then I got to, I'm like, that's another phobia I have.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
That is the one thing I, for some reason you must've said this. I think you said this in an old vlog or something. You were like, when I wake up in the morning, I have to brush my teeth and you can't, when you get your wisdom teeth out, you can do like the front too.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah. So that was a really big problem for me. Cause I just like that taste you have in the morning. It's like, Oh, it's so bad. It's so bad.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And it did. And then I would play it really chill every time it made it in.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
We are so similar but so different. I didn't brush my teeth until right before you came today. And I've been up since 8 a.m.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I was just like, I can't. I was like, I fucking can't. Like, sometimes I'm just like, right before I go to bed too, I'm like, ugh.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Before bed is harder and it doesn't, like, I always make sure I brush my teeth. But, like, sometimes before bed I'm like, I really don't want to brush my teeth. Like, in the morning I'm, like, excited. I'm like, let's go.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Really? I just can't get out of bed. Do you floss?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
No, because I have permanent retainers. And the backs of my teeth. So I like when I try and floss, it just gets.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I don't know. When I got my braces off when I was 13, they put these in and I've literally never gone back to the same dentist. So they've just stayed there.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I kind of want a permanent routine. Well, this bro dentist was telling me that I needed braces. And I was like, I don't want that actually at all.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Like it was the whole thing was a fucking problem.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
But, like, I would say things. Like, everyone else would be like, oh, I saw you in the vlog. I'd be like, oh, like, why are you weird? Like, why are you talking to me about that? Like. Yeah, but I was. It was. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Wait, so can I just say something? I saw your life before your eyes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
You were like, what the fuck is that? What the fuck is in there?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
So one of my favorite things in the world is giving advice.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Two of my close... Two of my closest friends always make out when we're at the bar, but refuse to talk about their situationship, and it can be very awkward when it's just them. Do I get involved or let them figure their own shit out? Let them figure their... Ew, it sounds like you have a crush on one of them. I'm so mean. Stop. But that is what it sounds like. That is what it sounds like.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
It sounds like that maybe... I thought it was going to be even more mean than what you said. So I think that you should just let them figure it out. Figure it out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
But yeah, I think like let them figure it out. It's giving like if you try to get involved, it's giving desperate. It's giving like drama starter.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah. It's like, does it really affect you that much?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah, it's, like, it's not, like, it's your situationship. If it was your situationship, it's another story.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I think, I think also part of them is, like, they're, like, my friend group's now getting fucked up.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Because, like, they're, because they're saying, like, my, like, we're in the same friend group and they're all hooking up. So it's giving, like, they hate change, which, like, is valid, but, like, you can't do anything about that. Because when something's changing and you're, like, going out of your way to, like, try to stop it, it's just giving desperate, like, you can't stop change.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
no it's inevitable it's inevitable my grandma used to always tell me the one thing we can count on is change that makes me sick really wise that makes me sick i know i hate change me too and it happened to me the other day and it made me change sick i forget what happened but it was just like not my vibe like it was like i was like i don't like this i'm not like i don't love this i get it i've gone through a lot of change yeah it's weird it's weird yeah that's fuck
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I watched my boyfriend fart on his hand, smell it, and then continue to scratch his ass. He doesn't know this and I haven't been the same since. Like, we haven't been dating that long. Is that a deal breaker? No. Like, no. Oh, yes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I'm good. This is my first ever podcast. I was just telling Jake. There's so many cameras in here that you probably can't see. I don't know where I'm supposed to look.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Fart on his hand and then... Smell it. And he didn't think anybody was watching. I mean, that's pretty weird. I don't want to prejudge myself.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah, I mean, I'd be like, are you five? Why are you doing that?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Okay, I don't think it's a deal breaker, but I do think you should say something. Say something. Be like, I saw you fart on your hand smell and scratch your ass. Like, I saw it happen. I saw you do that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Oh God, I actually don't know what you would do in that situation.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Ew, that's disgusting. It is disgusting, but like... I'm so desperate for love that I would just be like, it's fine, whatever. It's fine.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Like when I get a boyfriend, if said boyfriend is toxic, I'm going to be the worst. I'm just going to be like, well, I got to stay.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
You're looking at me. The best view. You know, you're the first person. Well, I guess I'll save that question for later. What brings you in today? Because you're the first person to get that question. Yeah, because this was like our new thing for season two. It's like we're going to start asking people what brings you in today.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah, everyone is. This one, like Nolan, sometimes you come so correct. Like you always come correct. But like Olivia, this is so perfect for you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
The guy I'm seeing doesn't brush his teeth in the morning. Sorry. Like, you can't even make coincidences like that up. No. No, but it's your fear. Like, not even when we have sleepovers. He said he never brushes his teeth in the morning, only at night, and he said that's normal. I'll, like, let you take the reins on this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I mean, I know that you think that that's not normal.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I feel like if you go to a dentist, they'll tell you to brush two to three times a day. Yeah. In another life, you were a dentist. I don't know who's telling this man that that's what you do. It's just one time at night.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Also, his teeth probably smell 10 times worse in the morning if he doesn't brush them at night.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
So then how do you kiss in the morning? Like if I was kissing someone in the morning, best believe I'd wake up and brush my teeth.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah. I, and then like also when you just like, I feel like then you're just putting stuff on top of it, like coffee or whatever you drink and eat. And it's just kind of gross.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
No, it feels like you're dirty. And feeling that way every day must be hell.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I wonder why. Maybe you should ask him. What's up with that?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Maybe just be like, I can't continue having sleepovers with you or seeing you in the. Ew. Ew. He doesn't brush his teeth in the morning.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Maybe you can make it cute and fun. Like, babe, let's brush our teeth.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah, it's nice. Are you comfy? Yeah, I'm very comfy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Okay. What like era vibe does this like? What year vibe does this give you?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Year? Like? Was this designed to be a certain year? I think it's kind of 70s. Yes! That's what it is!
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And I didn't tell her before. It is 70s and last season was 60s.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I grew up in a super strict household, but just moved to New York by myself. I'm like so ready to not abide by those stupid rules anymore, but it's also so hard to stop doing the things that I've been doing my whole life. How do I balance a New York moment while staying true to myself?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
You're kind of finding yourself, which is scary. Like you don't know what staying true to yourself means because you don't even know yourself yet.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
But then I think you hit this point where, well, first of all, I would say like getting into a routine is a really good. Right. I'm so boring, but that is kind of true. It sounds boring, but it's nice to have a routine. It is. That brings in stability, especially when you're alone. I know that can be kind of scary.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Okay, well, you brought me in firstly. I knew you were going to say that. I knew you were going to say that. No, but I do have a really weird phobia.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I know. I do, too. And then I hit a point where I was like, wait, I think I love this. Yeah, you are good at being alone. I really like it now. I know. And people always comment on my YouTube videos like, do you like being alone that much? I'm like, oh, I choose to be alone.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Olivia's like a grandma. Like, I ran into her at the farmer's market the other day, and she had, like, a fucking roller wrap. Like, what was it? What did you have? Like, a wagon wheel? Like, something. I was like, what is that? She's like, it's my phone.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
farmer's market back i'm so pumped about it i was like oh okay that's so embarrassing and i was like hungover like barely seeing the light yeah what were we even talking about for that finding yourself Oh, because she grew up in a strict household. But I was about to say, I remember like my first night of college, like I went to go do something.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I went to go to bed because I was so used to going to bed at like 1 a.m. because my mom wanted me home at 1 a.m. And then my friend was like, do you want to come and do face masks in my room? And I was like,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
what and then like you know it's just stuff like that like you do like it is kind of this like abrupt change to adulthood when you turn 18 like regardless of where you are like that is the legal age that you're an adult so like you things it is it becomes automatically different and like between 18 and i would say 22 you like really find yourself yeah for sure i also think that like
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
It's okay if you, to this person's question, like if you go off track a little bit, like you don't need to like beat yourself up about it. Like if you do something that maybe wasn't accepted in the household you grew up in, like that's okay. You're not in that house anymore. You're like making a life for yourself now and there are going to be changes and things will be different.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I think just like if it makes you feel good, stick with it. If it's something that like makes you feel bad because it genuinely makes you feel bad, then maybe you can put that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Whatever it is to rest, but... But I think it's also, like, I think they're, like, it's scary because it's, like, you don't want to have to build your own house.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yes, it is. It's like when someone's eating and you're like, oh, stop chewing in my ear.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
So, like, you're, like, relying back on these, like, rules that you grew up with or whatever because you're, like, this is... You don't want to have that moment where you're, like, my life is mine to figure out and not my parents, not anyone else's. Like, it's such a scary moment. And, like, like... Like, it's just, it's the worst.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And, like, avoiding it as long as possible, like, is, like, I understand. But, like, don't, I wouldn't worry about, like, staying true to yourself. Like, I'd worry about, yeah, like you said, doing what makes you feel happy and not doing what makes you feel bad. Like, and not thinking about it in terms of, like, how you grew up.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Because that, like, the rules your parents had, like, they were just how they wanted to prep you for this very moment.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And you know what? And I said I would just do one big prescription at the end of the episode. But I would like to. This is my first of the season. I would like to prescribe girls on HBO. Have you ever seen girls?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
No. What are you talking about right now? What's going on? Are you kidding? No. Is this a show? Am I going to get canceled? No.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And you would love it. Lena Dunham made it. You know who Lena Dunham is? Yes, she's amazing. It's the best show I've ever seen in my life. You would really love it. You would really, really love it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah. That's misophonia. I mean, that's not great either, but actually whispering, people like... Talking in a low voice.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Damn. You got me. Girls. Okay. Girls, I think because you're in your scripted era.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Like you're watching like these like Paul Thomas Anderson movies. Like you're watching stuff with scripts.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I'd like to read that. You're such a good writer. Olivia. No, it's true. You really are. Thank you. You're welcome.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
The journalist. Thank you. But I wrote a paper on it in high school. Yeah, it was a good movie. Those types of movies, like when you learn about them, you're just like, oh, I can't. Like what? Like all the deeper meanings. Like this is my problem with movies is I want to love old movies so badly. My ADHD because of TikTok is so.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I need to watch something that I can simultaneously be on my phone. And for that, for me, that is Housewives.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
but I think that's so good that you know that because then you can start maybe you don't want to but I think that it's so important that like we exercise our brains and by exercise I literally mean watch a movie which I guess is not really exercising your brain but in our generation I feel like because so many people are on their phone and watching this and doing that like we I think we're frying our brains do you do you take like a lot more time off your phone than you used to oh my gosh I'm so conscious of it now and not even like I'm great at it because I think that
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I think it's like actually coded to be really addictive. Yeah. So I think that like to say doesn't get me would be like a total lie. But I feel like I try and be more aware of it because when I'm on it too much, I notice for myself personally, I just get like really low.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
So I've had to like stop doing that just because I'm like, Why do I feel so low? And then once I delete the apps and I'll take like a month or two off and just like redownload it if I have to do a sponsorship or something or like if I want to film something.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I also think you're you've gotten so good about and what I'm so proud of you about is like putting stuff out and then not not reading and just putting it out and letting it live.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And just being like this is like for those who want to see it, see it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Meanwhile, Jake's at Coachella partying his ass off. Like, I'm trending on Twitter. What's going on? And I'm like, Jake, get off your phone. And I was like, I'm scared, I'm scared.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
What was that about? It was I was right behind Taylor Swift. Oh, it was so funny. Yeah. And I knew it in the moment. I was like, I look like Joe from you. Like, I look like Joe from you. Like, it was just like crazy. Like, I was like, what's happening? Like, how am I in? Because we were in a closed off. You know how Coachella works.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
No, it's been a thing since I'm a kid. I just really don't like when people whisper. It's so strange.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Like, there's the general mission, artist section, artist of the artist section. Right. And I was in the artist section.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
It was something else. But you were scared about that on Twitter.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I was at your face, like, put your phone away. Yeah, you were. You were like, put it away.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And I remember being like, I remember being like, no, but it's, it's, and you were like, it's what? Yeah. You were like.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
That was the, we had, you know, when you have like a historic dinner.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Like, do you remember the first time someone whispered and you hated it? Because I, you know how like my thing is heat? I remember the first time I was really hot.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
That was a historic dinner. We were ordering. For the books.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And then I said, okay, we got to get up. You care if I say this? Went outside. I was like, let's hit the weed pen. We hit the weed pen to prepare for the next course. Just to keep eating. Sat back down, finished. I was like, okay, we got one more time for dessert. Sat back down, hit the weed pen, sat back down. The festival was fully going on.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I didn't go that year. I honestly have been doing that a lot with these festivals.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I do. I love Palm Springs. I love being around everybody when they're not at the festival, like pre and post.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
pre mostly. Yeah. Not post. If you're like sober and everybody's like leaving the festival, it's a little weird to like meet back up. Except that night I did meet up with you guys.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
No, I don't either. I honestly don't like them enough to, it's just to do that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Like I used to in high school, like I would go to governor's ball in New York and I would get like, I would sneak alcohol in. There would be like this resealable bottle and you would pour vodka in it or tequila or whatever. And, um, I would get really fucked up. But then, like, Coachella is just not the place. It's not the place to get fucked up. It's so hot. It's so hot.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I was in my TV room and I was watching TV and I was trying to go to bed in there. And my dad said, aren't you really hot? And I said, no. And I was hot.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
It's an event. It's like... And it's become not... It's not a music festival. Like... it's just like, it's Coachella. Like, you know what I mean? Like you're not like, you're like going there and you're taking photos and then you're seeing a few, like you're not seeing like at a real and through and through music festival, you're seeing like five to six artists a day. Like,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah, no, I know. It's not. I think actually at Stagecoach, I saw one artist and it was Post Malone.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Was it? I want it. Stagecoach is like really, really.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
You can stay with me. It's really fun. That'd be really fun.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I think we should all go. Alice would go. Julia would go. Brett would go.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Like we should all do. Alice did Stagecoach this year. She said it was amazing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I love it. Coachella, but I think I would have more fun dressing up for stagecoach.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
It's really, really fun. You would look really sexy in a cowboy hat.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I thought I looked really sexy in my, like, try – my Coachella fit for this year was, like, I'm going to look like I'm, like – you remember, like, the year, like, Hailey and everyone wore, like, leather jackets? Yeah. Like, that was, like, my inspo. I was, like, they were just, like, going because they, like, have to. Yeah. And, like, that was, like – Like jeans. Yeah, like, that was my inspo.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And then every – it just, like, didn't – it didn't translate. Things don't translate when they are not authentic to you. It's so true. I try so hard. I'm a try hard. I try hard. I'm desperate. I love you so much. You're so funny. I try really, really, really hard. And for me to have these outfits that I was trying to look like I didn't give a fuck when I obviously did.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Thank you. Me too. But it wasn't a Coachella outfit.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And like anyone else could have rocked it and it would have been like, oh, they don't give a fuck. But like I give a fuck notoriously.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I think only you notice that. But I get what you're saying.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
No, there was like a few comments that were like, did he go to Coachella or where is he? What do you do if your platonic guy best friend is turning into an asshole and it's starting to make you want to make out with him sometimes? Dot, dot, dot, question mark. I've never felt this way about him before and it feels strange.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Well, is he being an asshole to you or to others? I guess.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Or maybe is that what like kindergartners do? What do adults do? That. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Right. I remember my mom would whisper at me when I was little. Well, not little. That sounds torturous. Hold on. Let me rephrase that. I remember I told her when I was like 16 or 17. I really don't like whispering. So then her and my sister would whisper at me. In your ear. And it would like scare the hell out of me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
That's like, that's how I flirt. I'm like, ew. Ew. Like, you know?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Like, I am the worst flirt in... Oh, I mean... I am the worst flirt in history. But this guy, I think he's flirting with her.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And I think... I think you should give it back to him.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah, I think you should make out with him and then beat him at his own game by, like, being like, it wasn't that serious.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah, but also that's, like, so toxic because... Maybe you should assess if he's, if this is like cutesy mean or if he's like actually being a jerk. Cause then maybe you should just like.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I think like asshole, like teasing you, kind of being playful, kind of cute, kind of sexy. Not mad about it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
If he's just being like a jerk, like you look ugly or like don't wear that. Like maybe, maybe you should.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Peace. Peace. I would be like, thank you. Thank you for talking to me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Like we've known each other for like seven years at this point. And there has never not once been any, anybody that I've been like seeing ever. But, and I've known you for a very, very long time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I think that, yeah, I actually really want to set you up with somebody.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I just don't know. I really do want to set you up though. And when I find somebody that I think is worth your time, I'm going to, pack them in my suitcase and bring them back to LA. Cause I don't think we're going to find them in LA.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Do you think I'm the same person you met six, seven years ago?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I've always said this about you. And it's like such a joy that people that don't know you get to see it now. Cause like, I always see people like this guy, like just like adore you. Like people online love you. And they're always like, you're my comfort person. Like he makes me laugh. He makes me feel good. And this is how I'd always describe you to people. Like,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
even to like my sister and her friends before i introduced you to everybody at in school like i was like no he'll just make you feel good he's like really funny he's really sweet like really genuine i think all of that has stayed the exact same um and for those who don't know okay i had a really hard time socially remember how i had a really hard time socially at school and you really helped me out oh you really helped me out you would be like i'm not going unless he can come
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah, that was so fun. Like, all the frat stuff. Because they were so mean.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
They were mean. They wouldn't let, for those who don't know, when you go, like, to, like, a fratty place, like, they don't let guys in that aren't in the house. And, obviously, like, Olivia's a gorgeous girl. Like, she was strutting her way in. And she would be like, I'm not going if Jake can't come.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
That's fine. But I think you're different, too. Like, I think that you've, like, grown into yourself a lot more. I feel like you're much more sure of who you are. Like, if somebody, I feel like, mistreats you or something, you're probably not going to, like, keep them around now. Like, you have so many great people around you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And I feel like you're so much more comfortable in, like, who you are that you're not really going to take as much shit as you probably would have seven years ago.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
No, I wouldn't cry, but I would just run out of the room. Like this is the worst thing you could do to me. So that's weird phobia. Another thing I noticed this morning as I was getting ready, when I stand up, I have to show you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah, they were mean. They people weren't the nicest, but I took it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Which I get because I feel like when you're young and also you moved across the country to a place where like you didn't really know that many people. So you were the first person I met you in the stairwell, right?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I was with Alice. You were with Bella. Yeah. I was so starstruck, you guys. So I was like, is this what USC is going to be like? It was. And I was like, I was like, you were so nice. And then who knew?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah, because I knew the person Jake was with, Alice. I'm sure everybody knows Alice.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
She's the best. But yeah, the rest is history. But I feel like you're very similar to how you were.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And I feel like your actual heart and the qualities, those haven't changed. You're still very, very sweet and sensitive. Yeah. But anxious as fuck. Yeah, anxious as fuck. And that has never changed.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
It will never, ever change. Oh, that was really nice, Olivia.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Am I very different? I feel like I'm so different.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
You're different, but you're the same. Really? You're like... You are more, like, you're more reserved. Like, you protect your peace a little more, way more. Like, you're very careful about who is around you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Whereas, like, you used to be surrounded by, like, a million and one people. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Like, we used to have to be, like, we don't, they're not, they're not being the best.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And you'd be like, oh. But, like, now, like, you're, like, you protect your peace. You have a small circle, like.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
If I position myself like this, I mean, you can tell me, why does it look like I have, like, a tumor growing off my knee?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I'm currently talking to a guy that I've dated before and the first time we dated, we ended because it felt like a friendship. We started again and I still feel the same. What do I do? P.S. I like his best friend and I think he might have a thing for me too.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Oh, no. First of all, I think if you tried it once and then tried it again and it's still not working, it might just not be your person and that's totally fine. But if you spend more time with this person, then you're kind of blocking off maybe opportunities for somebody that isn't a friend vibe for you. So you should definitely... Leave that situation, in my opinion.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Well, if you're giving it a second chance and it's the same as the first time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And then in terms of the friend, I think that's messy. I think that situation is kind of messy. I would definitely give it time. Like, I would end it with this guy. Maybe be single for a little. Maybe go on some dates. Meet some other people that aren't in the group. And if you keep leading back to this one friend, maybe with enough time, it won't be weird.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I would. But, like, I think Olivia is correct. And, like, also, like, sexual tension is seriously incredible. Like, there is, I don't think there is a better feeling in the entire world than sexual tension. It's the best feeling in the entire world. It really, like, just, like, enjoy the sexual tension while you can. And then, like, the longer, the longer, like, that first kiss, like, oh, my God.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Like, it's just going to be amazing. This guy that I had a situationship with told me I was a bad kisser to almost the whole school and referred to me as a stone wall. What should I do? How can I clear the allegations? Be unbothered.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I would say nothing. I would go about your pretty little life with your pretty little face and your cute little outfit and never turn back. I would not even give that person the time of day. What a dick.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
So if he is telling the whole school you're a bad kisser, you just stay silent. Eventually the narrative will shift to he's a fucking asshole.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
You know what I mean? And he should have never said that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And I hope most people are already thinking of him as a fucking asshole.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah. And even if you're in, it sounds like you're in high school or college and like people fucking grow up.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And nobody also probably is thinking about it as much as you are. Like, if I heard somebody say that, I would think of it and move on with my life. You know what I mean? Like, I would not be, like... You're better than me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
That's, like, my number one fear. That's why I'm, like, scared of, like, kissing people and having, like, sexual interactions because I get so scared that, like, I do a bad job or, like, I'm a bad kisser and, like, people will find out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Go the other way? I see. Yes. I see. So... I see what you mean.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
No, because I think also sometimes, like, If you feel like you're a bad kisser, like maybe it just wasn't the right, like maybe it was just a little awkward between both people. And then it's not really like somebody's fault because I feel like when you have really good chemistry with somebody, like it's so hard to have a bad hookup then. You know what I mean?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
It's very true. It's like, I completely know what you mean. Cause it's like, it's just, you're both feeling it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I love podcasting with you. This is my first podcast. And probably last because nothing will ever live up to this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Oh, no, but you are welcome back on this couch anytime.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I love you're so good in front of the camera. You always have been.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I feel so like it was actually so funny because I called my sister yesterday and I was like, I'm kind of nervous. Like I haven't done anything because like anything I put out, obviously I get to watch and edit so many times that I'll have a video that's like 30 minutes long and I'll rewatch it and I'm like, way too much of my personality came out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Like I'm going to delete half of it, which I never used to do.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I think you're a lot harsher on your, which makes me sad.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
That's okay. I think sometimes it's kind of healthy though. Cause like sometimes like maybe people don't need to hear everything I have to say. I'm like, that's okay.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I totally get that. But I think sometimes you're a little too harsh on yourself.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah. I'd rather just be harsh on myself and like not regret putting something out there.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
yeah and if that's i think also that happens like i know that publicly a lot has gone on where i'm that would cause me to like retract but i also think that that comes with age yeah like i was 14 when i started my youtube channel so and i turned 25 next week so there's like oh it's supposed to be your birthday what are we doing for your birthday i'm gonna be in italy okay so not me
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
But I really want to celebrate with everybody when, like I want to do like a really fun night out. You know I'm there.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
No, I don't know what's up with that. I think it's not normal.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Oh, this past year. Yeah. I thought you meant this upcoming Halloween.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I honestly think I might leave too. I might go to New York.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I mean, LA just like isn't doing it for me the way it used to.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I'm either going out of the country or to New York. I just haven't decided yet. Well, that's nice. TBD.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
It's not like it sounds nice, but it's really just me like running away from LA and parties.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
No, it's normal. You're just petite. Petite. You're a petite girl.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Well, LA just like isn't, it really isn't what it used to be.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
It's not, but I'm glad we did experience it when it was.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
You got more of it. I got like the tail end of it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I feel like when you first moved here, your first year, we kind of got like the saddle.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Saddle Ranch before Saddle Ranch was golden. And I wish more people could experience it before it became a thing. And then now it's just dead.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Speaking of you looking out for me, I almost got kicked out that night of Saddle Ranch.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I was blackout, hammered, wasted. I was so excited to be like out with like all your cool friends. Cause like, Like, Olivia, like, knows everyone. And, like, she's so inclusive and welcoming. So, like, I was, like, coming across the country. And, like, I had not seen any of this life before. And, like, you, like, brought me out with you. And it was just the coolest thing ever.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I never got to do a Delilah night with you. Really? And I was always really jealous about it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
No, it's not. But if we bring the right crowd, we'll make it, like, a good night.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Like, what are you angry about? I'll tell you what I'm angry about first. Okay.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
But Saddle Ranch, it was, I blacked out really bad and I was on the bull and I was like falling off and they were like, you need to leave. I said, give me a second, please. And I said, Olivia. Yeah. And, like, you just have a way with bouncers. Like, you just have a way with bouncers. And you were like, you cannot kick him out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Listen, you cannot. He's my friend. You can't kick him out. And they were like, okay. And I stayed.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah, it was probably pretty low. But I remember, like, the people that I, like, went to Saddle Ranch with, like, a bunch of these boys. Like 12 years old. Like their life depended on having the highest score on this punching machine. I couldn't believe it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
That was a great night. I'll never forget that night. I remember what we did before. We went to Whole Foods before. We got pizza. No, I'm telling you it was the best night of my life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Good fucking times. Anyway, we'll do it again soon.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Wait, we will absolutely run it back. We were trying to tell our trainer the other day like, well, I'm still crazy. But like, if you know Olivia now, like you wouldn't think like you were wild. And we were trying to explain to him like, no, we like we got down. Like we got fucking down. Do you remember your 20th birthday party? How drunk I got?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
You don't get angry easy. But when you do get angry, it's not fun.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah. Yeah. I woke up and didn't know what to do with myself.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I woke up and ate so much food that day that like I remember I like put myself into like a worse hangover coma. And I have like such a such a good like clear memory of that. It was fantastic.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
that fred's pasta from morrow's which one the vodka sauce one okay but i got like a serving for like an order for myself and then who i was with and then the person i was with didn't eat there so i ate theirs too and i remember just being like this is the worst day of my life because i felt so ill you like taught me how to have a good hangover that's so weird that you say that because if
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
No, I know. Exit. I know, but you taught me how to have a good one. You were like, you can't do this. You can't do this. You can't. I didn't know anything coming to LA at 18.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
But I don't know if... Have I really ever been that angry where you were like... Not at me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I probably just was like, we got to get good food.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I feel like I probably... I feel like that was a defining point in our friendship, too. It's like us ordering because we couldn't really leave campus.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
So we'd order Judy's. And then I remember like when I was like, this exists.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And then when I was no longer there, you were like, I'm still. You were like, hey, Jake, I don't.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
That podcasts are kind of fun. That makes me so happy. I had a really nice time. You had a nice time? I feel like I just like hanging out with you. Okay. Well, yeah. This just felt like us hanging out with some cameras.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah. And a big ass TV. And lighting. And this thing is so fabulous.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
But I've seen you angry at others and I was like, not me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Where did you get these? Joe Jonas gave that one to me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Something I never thought I would say six years ago.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
if you guys knew jake six years ago you would be mind fucked as to where he is now but like it's so expected and it's so perfect but like he was just like and i mean you still are which is what i think makes you like so epic at this job is like you were just such a fangirl at like anything it could be something so small and like i would always i'm trying to think there was always moments where you where i would be like like everything i was just like
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah, so it's just hysterical at cheering on your couch. I know. What is going on? I love it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I think what I learned today was it's nice to have people around you that have known you for a very long time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Because they know why you act a certain way sometimes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah. Even if you don't know, they'll be like, well, it's because... It's so nice to have friendships like that too because it's so rare, I feel like, as you get into adulthood to have friends from...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Like when you're a kid, basically, like those are like my strongest friendships in the world are people I've known for like five plus years because you just have like this different level of comfort, which is so nice.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
You do. You do have a lot of a lot of friends from childhood. basically like all i have okay well that sounded horrible olivia thanks for coming thanks for having me this was great this was really fun i'm sorry if you get some comments like why her oh this is you used to never say that about yourself true but here we are here we are and who cares
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And then you like, you excuse a lot of bad behavior from others around you all the time. Do you know what I mean? I'm really good at that. Yeah. And then like when you get pissed, like you snap.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
It's light. It's funny. It's funny. I start crying. No, it's all good. I'm just warning you. If you do just, you don't need to warn me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Thanks. Love you. That was so sentimental. It wasn't really meant to be that deep.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I swear I'm okay. No, but you know, thanks. Um, I love you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Love you more. Thanks for having me. This was great.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Before we leave. Oh, So this season, I don't know if you know, but last season I would prescribe after every tell me what's wrong a remedy of sorts. And I would often find myself repeating the same things over and over again. So we're just going to do one over our chain prescription per person for the episode. So my prescription is I burp a lot. Have you noticed that this episode I'm like burping?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I usually hate orange and I actually don't mind this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I like orange. Like when I was a kid, if there was like a popsicle flavor, orange.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Oh, speaking of when you were a kid. Wait. Two things.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Actually, no one knows this. The sugar fish drama. Remember how I freaked out about Sugarfish not giving me white rice? I know they give you white rice.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
No, Jake. Wait. No, no. No, they haven't. And I will never forget this. I was like 17. It was before I started eating sushi. Okay. 17 is a bit old. I was maybe like 15 or 16. And I went to Sugarfish in Beverly Hills and I said, can I please get a bowl of white rice? And they said, You're not 12. And I was like, excuse me? They were like, we don't do that unless you're a child.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
So no, I actually didn't. And it scarred me and I've never gone back.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
So my entire sugar fish beef has become unfounded or ungrounded. It was all based on the fact that I thought they gave you white rice. Stop.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
They don't discriminate. They give nobody white rice.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
But what you do at some Japanese restaurants is my favorite thing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
So I don't do this anymore, but before I ate sushi, I would get white rice, six sheets of nori, and some sort of steak.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah, you would get steak and she would put it all together.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
You know what I think? I go like inward. Inward. Like I probably won't actually snap outwardly. You don't. Like at somebody. You don't. But I'll definitely just get like really quiet.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
To you, too. We're gonna have both parts in. I just need... Like, I need everyone this season, any new watchers who haven't watched it, like, come to me after you've watched it. Like, the show changes lives. Olivia, like, it... Yes. Oh, I thought you were about to be like, stop. Okay. I really prescribe it every episode. Like, it... The show...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
shows you that it's okay to be so flawed okay and it shows you like it's okay like you're not the only one who is like as flawed as you think you are like it is the and they do it with like comedy and drama and tears and it's like the greatest show i've ever seen in my life okay i prescribe everybody to get a dog you know what i know that's a great prescription that changed your life
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
It's the best thing that's ever happened to me. I was thinking about this yesterday on my walk. I was walking my dogs and I was like, damn, this is just the best. Like I love these things so much. And then I was thinking about before I had them and I was like, yeah, life is cool. But now I feel like my heart bursts.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Like every morning my dog is basically on top of my face and it's the cutest thing in the whole entire world. Like his little head and his ears go back and it's perfection. And I just think if you're having a hard time in life, a dog will fix it. Or it will make it 10 times more stressful depending on your situation.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah, it's unconditional love. I really want a dog, but everyone says that I wouldn't be able to take care of them.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
It's a lot of work. I feel like though, okay, so I understand that most people do work a nine to five and that would be tough because they need to be let out and especially when they're a puppy. So I could see where that would be a problem. Maybe you could ask your workplace if you could bring your dog and then it would, like I'd love to bring, if I worked in an office, I'd love to bring Milo.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I don't note. I realize that my bark is a lot bigger than my bite.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
He would just sit at my feet. He would be so chill.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah. I fostered him like literally the first week of COVID. And then they were like, okay, we found a home for him. Like, are you ready? And I was like, no.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And yeah, he was $0. I can't believe I got him for free. Like I look at him and I'm like, yeah, I paid nothing for you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
He's a, yeah, he's a German shepherd mix. Oh, he's like 17 breeds. You know, he's part Chihuahua. How is that? And terrier.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Okay, so what I don't understand about that is because how the fuck has a German Shepherd and a Chihuahua fucked?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I don't know. And I don't know if that's actually how it works because there's like 17 other breeds. So what if the Chihuahua fucked the Yorkie? Got it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Like last night I was complaining about something, someone, and I was just like.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
They had something and then that was... The Yorkie fucked the Beagle and then the Beagle fucked the German Shepherd. Yeah, exactly.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
You're welcome back anytime, whenever you want. I love you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I love you. If you ever need a guest, I'll be here. Girl, don't test me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I love you. I love you. We say bye to the pussies. Bye, pussies.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Um, someone just really pissed me off. Like they did one thing that I just found to be, okay, I'm going to tell you and I'm going to cut this out. Do you watch housewives? I really don't.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I've seen episodes because Andrew's obsessed. So I watch it sometimes, but yeah, not really ever.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I was becoming a bit manic and I know I always am in kind of like a little bit of a manic state, but it was making it really, really bad. I was having like nightmares. It was just making me really anxious. So I've stopped. I really miss it. A lot. I don't know if it's forever, but it's definitely for right now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I like TV. I just watched. I mean, it's so bad. It's good. Actually, is that rude to say?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Emily in Paris. Love. Great. It's not reality. I can't get into it. It's fabulous.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Everyone loves it. Are the clothes good? Um... I don't know about that. But isn't it Emily in Rome this season? Like, I can't get into it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Oh, it's next? It's not over? I thought this was the last season.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Oh, I hope not, because they left us on a cliffhanger. We're... Oh, sorry, spoiler.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah, like, it's fine. Like, what is the appeal of this show? Everybody watches it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
It's just good. It's just, like, shitty and good, and there's sex and romance, and it's cute.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
But is it, like, such PZ sex? Like, you know, like, I want the down and dirty. Yeah, no, no, no, it's not.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I don't even know why I said that. There's, like, no sex in it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
You have a really wide palette when it comes to it. Like, if I'm, like, watching something, I'm like, you've probably seen this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I have recently gotten into some... OK, so there's like obviously so many movies out there. But then I feel like there's a certain realm of movies that are just like really intense, crazy directors that and my sister, my sister's boyfriend. Right. A lot of people in my life are very obsessed with movies. So they've all turned me on to this category of movies.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
That's like I probably would never used to find it interesting. And now I'm hooked. Like I just watch. Have you seen Boogie Nights?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Oh, watch it. That's how she gets me. That's how she gets me. You always tell me, I'm like, well, is Claire like a sex scene?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
No, there's, it's the whole thing is basically about, like, porn.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Sort of. I honestly, when I when I first started watching it, I went into it blind. So I thought it was going to be like some dance movie. And you could see my surprise when it's not that way.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
But his dick is out. And that was like before prosthetics. So like I'm down.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Well, this was a prosthetic because the whole thing is like he's got this massive schlong. Like that's the whole point. It's really good. You should watch it. I think I'm going to watch it. Yeah, so I started really liking Paul Thomas Anderson movies who directed that one as well.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Let's see. What else have I watched recently? I love The Bachelor.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Okay, so you would like Housewives if you like The Bachelor.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Housewives is so much more real than The Bachelor.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Okay. So you wouldn't be able to watch Beverly Hills because you'd be like, I know this too well.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
That one's crazy. That one's like the Holy Trinity of, well, okay. Actually, if you want a current one, Salt Lake City.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Okay, wait, that's the one I've heard about. And what's the one with all the, oh, no, you know what I'm thinking of? Vanderpump rules. Oh, yes. See, they're all so, like, intertwined.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Well, Vanderpump comes from Beverly Hills. Vanderpump is good. Okay. Housewives is great. Oh. No, Vanderpump is great. Vanderpump is great when it can be. Housewives is just, like, an examination of, like, the, like, female psyche. Like, it's incredible. OK, like I oftentimes like like the older I get, the more I feel like it isn't scripted because like they would react in wait.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
In terms of like things that I've done to make me feel better, I started a new TV show, Killing Eve. I'm on season two. It's amazing. That's always something I do to make myself feel better. I always throw myself into like a bingeable television series and it always makes me feel better just because I'm able to like put myself in the world of whatever TV show that is.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And I understand that there are situations where they're like, bring this up, bring this up, bring this up. But the situations at play are real.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yeah, I think, though, the problem with most reality TV these days is that I feel like it all is starting to get very scripted. It is because then these people get kind of famous and then they're like, wait, I don't really want to share my life. So they don't make stuff up.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I'm so happy you said that. Yes. Because the reason Housewives is so good is because everybody in the show, and Louise, tell me if I'm wrong, is out to get one another. So they will pull something from someone else's life and, like, come in. Like, Bethany Frankel just made a TikTok where she was talking about, like, how someone would come in with, like, a smoking gun.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Like, if Jill – Jill is on New York – heard something about Bethany –
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Yes. Jill would bring it onto the show. Like the other housewives bring stuff about each other onto the show without consulting each other.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Oh, so they're like a little bit messy. No, they're dirty.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
They get dirty. For example, in Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, what was her name? Was it Taylor Russell? It was Camille Grammer. Camille Grammer brought something... No, it was Taylor. Taylor's husband's name was Russell. Camille Grammer brought... Like, they were in an abusive relationship. Taylor and her former husband. And that was not talked about at the show at all.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Like, no one brought it up. No one brought it up. And Camille sat down at the dinner table in front of the cameras and brought it up.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
They're messy. They're like high school girls. They are high school girls.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
It's... Seriously, like... Do they have kids? Yeah, and all the kids love it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
You can tell. There's housewife kids, and they all eat it up. They're all part of the show. And then when the housewife kid really pops off, they'll include their life in the show. In New Jersey, Teresa's kids fight with the cast members.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
The best thing. And then there's, and then, okay, I don't want to spoil it, but in season four, it is the best finale of any reality show I've ever seen in my entire life. There is a betrayal of such epic proportions. Have you seen the TikTok sound? That's like receipts, proof.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
That's from Salt Lake. Oh. And it's very real. In the moment, like you're like, yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
You know what it reminds me of? That thing. We don't have to include this in. Do you remember the prank you pulled on me?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Can I preface this? I didn't have the mind span with energy to pull this prank. These were our friends.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I can't believe this exists. I feel like you should like put the video up.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Of the photoshopped. Okay. Have I ever told you this? I have. It haunts me to this day.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And then I also listen to my classic winter comfort albums, which are Evermore and Anything by Phoebe Bridgers. We have a really exciting episode for you tonight. One of my dear, dear friends that I've known for such a long time, Olivia Jade, came on the podcast and I'm so, so lucky and grateful she did. She's so lovely.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
You didn't. You were so out of it. You didn't know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I woke up to just another day. I woke up trading around. I think at this time, by the way, I thought I was all that and a bag of chips. So I'm like... Like, I'm getting these texts, and there was, like, there was someone leaking shit about you to the press at the time, where you were living, where you were, like, and we were like, who the fuck did that?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And it was somebody that was, like, clearly in my life, because it was accurate.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And it was very strange. I think I know who it was.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
We both think we know who it was. But it wasn't me. And obviously. And I wake up to these texts. Snake emojis. Snake emojis. What? The fuck are you sending me snake emojis for? Like, what are you talking about? I'm like ignoring them, ignoring them. Then I get a text that's like, Jake, it's okay. What's okay? What are you talking about? Our dear friend, Cammie.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
decided that she would Photoshop an article on, was it People Magazine? It was something like that. It was People Magazine. Jake Shane, Olivia Jade BFF spills all. I was like, wait, I didn't do this. I didn't do this. And like, it was like, like it was the craziest. Oh my God. It was insane. It was insane. And Olivia, like at some point got involved and she was like, it's okay.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
And I was like, no, I didn't do it. You know, there's a bit, there is a video of me. There's a video of me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I can't do this. I can't do this. I'm Googling the reporter's name. Like, Our friend Cammie is really, really, really, really good at Photoshop.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
Like, amazing. She also is, like, a queen prankster. Like, she loves to prank people. Like, remember what she did with the dead pig?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
She put it in her closet. No, she constantly gave a dead pig.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
She did not kill a pig, by the way. It was like her science experience. She studied biology or something.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 48: Olivia Jade
I think she had to study a pig in class, and she brought it home and gave it to her sister for Christmas.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
You kind of think about it more like a project and you let everyone else tell you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
But sometimes it really makes the song and you do this cool thing in your music. You do it with the last song on the record and you also do it in Night Shift where the complete vibe of the song just changes and it becomes this like kind of arena, rocky production. And I just think it's super cool.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Night Shift. Remember when I was telling you I was walking around London and I was listening to your music all day? Night Shift was on repeat. What is Night Shift about? Because normally I can really understand a song, but sometimes it's so... above my pay grade intellectually that I'm like, I don't get this. What is night shift about?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
I'm trying to think of anything else that I've been up to. I've been listening to a lot of Bon Iver. You love, huh? Don't you? Love. Yeah. I just got, I mean, I've listened to them in passing, but I just really got into them.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Wow. It's really beautiful. I really love that song. When you, were you anticipating the success of night shift when you put it out or not at all?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Right, right. I also love your song, Hot and Heavy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
That was fun. I love when you can just really dive into someone's discography and really find so many new things. I was in the car with my best friend, Will, and I was like, turn it up. What is this? He's like, Hot and Heavy. Amazing. Oh, it's amazing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Is that one of your favorite parts, though, about putting it out? It's like knowing that everyone is going to have their own experience with the song.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
A hundred. So when you see these people like screaming the lyrics back or like, like it's so rewarding.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Right. Right. Oh, that's so awesome. Do you find touring easy? Because you love the show so much, but we were talking about traveling and how that's hard. Do you find that aspect difficult?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Well, yeah, but that one I had listened to prior, but Bon Iver, Bon Iver, I actually am way into, and I like their new stuff. Mm-hmm. I like their new stuff a lot. I think it's great. I'm excited for that album. I think it comes out this week.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Right. I that actually happened to me yesterday. I had like a full episode for like 20. Well, I don't cry because I'm on meds that don't let me cry.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
No, it's it's fine. I'm actually like I'm like think I'm going to go down on them just because I think. I don't know. I want to be. I feel like crying. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Me too. Yeah. Me too. The last time I cried was. Oh my God. Everyone listening is like we've heard this story a million times. September 2019 outside of Macaroni Republic in downtown LA.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
It was. And I weirdly called my dad. And he was like, uh, hello? Like, what are you doing? I was about to say, do you like him? I love my dad, but like, he was just like, what the fuck are you calling me? I was so drunk.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
And I was like, oh my God, I gotta stop. I gotta stop. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
It'll get you. It'll get you. Alcohol just always brings out the emotions in me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Yeah. We were talking about that before in college when I used to take shots. Okay, so it's weird. It's happened to me three times in my life. I'll take a shot and just immediately throw up right after. Yeah. And yeah, it's not enjoyable. But that's only happened three times. So you were telling me it happened to you after a glass of wine.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Yeah, I'm super excited. I think I go, I think I'm going to, oh my God, I think, I know, I'm leaving for Coachella tomorrow night.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Yeah. I also hate having when people have to tell me what happened.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
It's just that was what my nightmare last night was about. Oh, no. And it was the weirdest nightmare ever. I was on a reality show. And my tour manager, Matt, told them, like, I was super drunk at the club. And Matt said, put cameras up. Like, record him. And how evil. And I woke up and I got in the biggest fight with him in my dream. I'm the type of person. I can't separate dreams from reality.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
just get me to the desert I just gotta go I gotta fucking go I gotta go now I've been thinking about it I have no I have one t-shirt and that's it I have one t-shirt for it and that's the only thing I bought so let's just hope for the best here I'm excited to go and be with everyone and just
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
So Matt could never. Matt would be like, yeah, camera's up. Oh, my gosh. Teach their own. So you love your band.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
It's like, it's like chav like, like, you know, like, like chav check. Like that's like, that's like a Manchester accent. Did you say chav check? You've never, are you on TikTok? No. Okay. So.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
back in the day there was like this like chav check and it was like a manchester girl trend and there was a song that was like have a lot of faith in me love and like they would do all their makeup like you just did yeah it's all i need yeah do you remember that yeah it was awesome
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
That sounds amazing. Yeah. Also, also like club culture and nightlife culture is so much better in London. I feel like because I feel like here everyone's like phones up and And I feel like the culture there is more less judgy and more like everybody's in their own body feeling the music. And I've actually noticed that just as a viewer and watching concerts online.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
dance and see charlie xcx and lady gaga um but yes lucy dakis is on tonight's episode and she is amazing probably she probably got me the most calm i've ever been in this room which was awesome but i'm such a fan of her and such a fan of boy genius that it was so cool um to have her here i don't know if you guys remember but like one time i was behind boy genius on a red carpet and i looked so fucking gagged if somebody can find that photo let me know it's really funny
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
I remember there was this one concert and I think it was Summer Walker. And I think she was performing in Hyde Park. I forget what it was, but... the crowd was just screaming the lyrics back. I was like, Oh my God, you don't hear that here. Cause everyone's like, like, I remember I was at a Phoebe show in 2022 and she did motion sickness. And I was not crying.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Cause as we know, but I was like, I was, I was crying. I was like, I was like moving in my emotion of crying. I just felt so overwhelmed by the music. Like I was like, no tears.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Do you have, sorry, this is like a 180, but do you have a favorite lyric on the album or any favorite lyrics?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
No, I can't, but I'll feel it. Okay. That's really beautiful.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Was that something you learned over time, like living in the moment and appreciating everything around you, or has that always kind of been your mindset?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Yeah, and did that grief kind of lead you into writing, or were you always a writer and a creative person?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Stream forever is a feeling out now. It's incredible. My favorite song is a big deal. And I also love angles, which I know is a single and a very basic answer, but I really do love angles. Like I hyper fixated on that song for a few days.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
You do have to start somewhere. Forever is a feeling. So you said that was one of the last tracks you wrote for the album because it was everything kind of put together. Kind of like when you have leftovers in a fridge kind of making what you have. But so did you come up with the name for the album after that song?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Are you nervous to put the album out or excited or just kind of like,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
You can see if I'm coming to a city near you by going to pass that post.com clicking live with Jake Shane and checking out the dates and to submit a, tell me what's wrong. Go to pass that post.com. Click. Tell me what's wrong and tell me what's wrong. Submit a name and number if you're feeling fancy and enjoy tonight's episode. Love you, pussies. Hi, pussies. Welcome back to Therapus.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
do you have a song that you're most nervous about? And on the flip side, do you have a song that you're most excited for people to hear?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
I love it. Thanks. Maybe that's why I love it so much. Wait, do you have a favorite? I love Forever's a Feeling.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Yeah, I love Last Time. And I love... Actually, my favorite is Bullseye. Bullseye is my favorite just because I love you and Hosey are like trade verses so beautifully. And then when you come together on that second chorus together, like your voices blend so beautifully. And as I was telling you, I love that lyric about like clearing out your house and moving.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
And I think a lot of the album is so present. Ankles is so present. Tell me if I'm wrong. I feel like Forever's a Feeling is so present. It's all like, it's a love record, but I thought it was really beautiful that with love comes reminiscing and nostalgia. And I thought that it was just like really explained beautifully on Bullseye. And I just thought your voices sounded so good together.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
It's true. I really, really loved Bullseye. And yeah, I just I don't know. I love I love a duet.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Yeah. It's kind of like, well, when you write with Boy Genius, like, do you guys all write together or do you? Do you come with a song one day? Someone else comes with a song one day? How does that?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Today we have the one, the only Lucy Dacus. Her fourth studio album is out March 28th. It's called Forever is a Feeling and it is so incredible. Welcome, Lucy Dacus.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
I love Emily, I'm Sorry. I love Cool About It, too.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Cool About It's so good. I just love that lyric, once I took your medication to know what it's like, and now I have to pretend like I can't read your mind. Yeah. I love that lyric. That bitch. Yeah, like, damn.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Yeah. Do you have anything that you are therapist about?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Is that okay? Yes. Okay. I'll be right back. You ruminate on that therapist.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Okay. This episode of Therapist is brought to you by Booking.com. Booking. Yeah! Sorry. Nolan told me I have to keep the mic away when I do that. Now that I'm not on tour... I don't need to book hotels or anything right now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
However, I'm going to New York in a few weeks, and you bet your ass I'll be using Booking.com to book me a stay because Booking.com makes it so easy and so quick to book your perfect stay. Okay? You put in all the things you need. So I want a gym. If I want a terrace. If I need walkability, which we know I need because I don't drive. Whatever I need for wherever I'm staying. Okay?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
You put it in and they show you the list of hotels or rentals that have it and you book it and it's easy. You could also book a car on it. They offer everything so you can like really fill out your vacation on it and make it easy and accessible. Like booking.com is really just about like making everything like easier for you. Like it's just so much easier.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Like when we were on tour, I remember I would say like we would show up to these cities and we wouldn't have a place booked and then We'd have, like, instead of scrambling, we would just put it in and find somewhere and click it and book it on booking.com. And I'm not even just saying that. We really did do that. And it was the easiest thing ever. It took away so much anxiety for me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
I get the worst travel anxiety. But, like, knowing that, like, booking.com will help me find a place to stay. Just, like, they will always have a place to stay for me that meets all of my criteria and all of my needs. Like, it takes such a weight off of me when I'm traveling or when I'm going somewhere. Yeah. It really is just the easiest and most efficient way to book travel, in my opinion.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
So find exactly what you're booking for on booking.com. Booking. Yeah! Also, special thanks to Aloe Moves for sponsoring tonight's episode. As you guys know, I love the Aloe Gym. And when I'm on tour, I obviously can't go. But I used Aloe Moves because they have, like, my favorite instructors. Like, they have Laura, who teaches me Pilates. And I was able to go to the gym wherever I was.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
and do the class. And I know it didn't feel like I was, it felt as close to the aloe gym as I could possibly get without actually being there. And, you know, you can choose from like beginner to intermediate to like a five minute class to a 20 minute class. Like they have all the, they have a million in one options for whatever you need. And like, it really just like,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
It's like the Allo Gym on the go, honestly. I know that I look like an idiot sometimes when I work out, but if you want to look like an idiot with me, you can download Allo Moves and have the same instructors I have and do the same things I'm doing, and we can look like idiots together. Um, but really Aloe Moves was my like lifesaver on tour.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Like I just have so much trouble working out like within, with me in my own head. So Aloe Moves makes it feel like I'm with a trainer that I'm comfortable, that I'm comfortable with. Um, or it just makes, it's like gives me a third party of someone telling me what to do. Um, so I feel like there's a start time and an end time, which there is.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
And like, they're like, there's a certain amount to complete as opposed to just like leaving it open ended. Oh, also, and this was very important for me on tour, they also have an Art of Sleep series. This completely transformed my sleep schedule, like, entirely. Sleep is, like, equally as important as a workout, so even if you're not looking for a workout, Aloe Moves has something for you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
The Art of Sleep series seriously changed my entire sleep. It's so hard for me to sleep on tour, and this really saved me. This was, like, this was really, really helpful. Reset your personal wellness routine with Aloe Moves. Go to alamoves.com now and use code THERAPUS for an exclusive 30-day free trial and 20% off an annual membership. That's alamoves.com, code THERAPUS.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
alamoves.com, code THERAPUS. Thanks, Alamoves, for sponsoring tonight's episode. Love you guys. Were you a little monster? Are you a little monster?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Okay, so I, it was, it was Just Dance. I don't remember the first time I ever saw her, but I remember being in my mom's bedroom and I was playing the radio and Just Dance was on. And I remember, all I remember is this feeling of like, I want to hear that song again.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
again and again and again and again and again and again for the rest of my life and then i didn't know and i remember trying i think i tried calling in being like please play just dance by lady gaga i think i was like eight and then um i remember the first time though i saw poker face uh it was very recent it was very it was shortly after that i was in my uh neighbor's like addict area.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Okay. I was like, I feel like this is about, I feel like this is about love, but I also feel like it's a bit about reminiscing, especially on like Bullseye with Hosier. What was that like?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
And she was like, Lady Gaga has a new music video. It's called Poker Face. And I just remember seeing that and being like, I just remember being like, okay, there's before and after now. Yes. And then that's how I felt with Lady Gaga. And I was the, I still am the biggest little monster. I love her. And I just, but my parents never let me see her live when I was a kid.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Cause it was so, but she did. So what? It was so like on the nose and graphic and like, well, I ain't got what they meant. But then I remember going to my friend's house and watching the fame monster on HBO. Cause she did like a concert special. And I remember being like, okay, like I wouldn't want to sit here as a 10 year old and watch this with my mom.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
But I just remember being like, loving her. And I love that album. That's one of my favorite albums of all time, The Fame Monster. I love every song on that album. Do you have a favorite album of all time?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
I'm excited to listen to it. I've never heard it. I'm excited.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
You know, I realized I didn't get into specifics with that question. Well, I'll tell you everything.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Yeah. I'm excited to listen to everything you just told me about. So good. I'm excited.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
sound pieces and then other ones are absolute bops so i love that yeah i'll just listen to an album through and be like okay i'm getting a few bops i'm getting a few think pieces right enjoying yes i love i love finding an album that because i have such a short attention span that i can listen to through and through i think one of those for me is calico by ryan beattie uh a gorgeous voice like so gorgeous or maybe yes
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
It went away. It went away. But I love Calico by Ryan Beattie. Good.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
i just love every i love uh like gay love songs so like i love frank ocean i love ryan beattie oh yeah blonde oh we're talking about best records what how are we not talking about blonde is i remember listening to that uh i think it was my senior my junior year in high school and i was in like this area uh i was in the north fork of long island and it was there was like a lot it was like
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
I'm a very calm, like it was like bays and like a lot of trees, a lot of forest. And I remember being like, this is where I'm supposed to be listening to this album.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
I think I wanted to hear the new Cody Simpson song.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
But I remember because I didn't have an iPod at the time and I didn't have a computer. Or an iPod shuffle. Or an iPod shuffle. I had nothing. So the only way I could hear Just Dance was if I begged the radio to play again and again and again.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
like a lot yeah so i was like i don't know like sassy or like the cheetah girls soundtrack oh that soundtrack talk about underrated i should re-watch that movie i bet that the fits are so fire they are yeah one and two are the best ever the song um on two the my i prefer the soundtrack actually you know what the soundtrack is so different on one and two i love on one remember cinderella
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
I don't want to be like Cinderella. Oh yes. Love that one. And then I also love, um, uh, why wait on.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
No, cheetah girls like was my shit. Okay. Yeah. Like that was like, I was like, Ooh, I like this. I think that was like, I think before Gaga, it was, it was the cheetah girls. I was like, Oh, I like pop music and I like what's going on here. Yeah. Yeah. Did you ever think about what you were a therapist about?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
He's so underrated. He's kind of underrated. He's so underrated. Yeah. There's this line on that song that I love where you talk about you're moving out and you're looking through old stuff and you find your partner's old things and you can't figure out if you should view them as like a gift or like something that you should get rid of. It hurts. Yeah. I've never had that feeling, but I am sure.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Yeah, that's a very righteous thing to be pissed about. Yeah. What do you think then the answer is for if it's not renewable energy, what do you do?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
I actually remember learning about that in high school. They were always like, look who funded this study. You should always check out who funded this study and that should tell you everything you need to know. Wow.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Best days of like the best day, few days of my life. Like it was like seriously the most rewarding. Like I felt so like proud of myself and like, I don't know, like grateful. Um, it was just amazing. I'm so excited for you guys to see it. Um, like it was, it's just the best. We're going to the premiere tonight. And I also met Ariana Grande, which was amazing. I had to process it for a few days.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Yes. I needed that today. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. I needed that. With that being said, should we get into the tell me what's wrongs?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Brace yourself. Seriously. I just walked in on my parents, but they've been divorced for five years. Let that sink in. Help. Maybe I should run away. Well, I wouldn't run away. I actually think that's kind of beautiful. What's the, what advice do you need? I don't know. That's what I'm wondering. I mean, I guess it's like walking on your parents. It's like horrendous.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
My brother's best friend, every time he gets drunk, constantly makes fun of me, jokes about me, and is just an asshole. How do I stop this?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Did you guys record that song in studio together? Did you like send him an open verse?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Probably not. It's only when the brother's drunk. It's when the brother's best friend is drunk. And he's like making... I mean, I think in some twisted way, he probably has a crush on you. Oh.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
My best friend and her boyfriend are doing long distance. He lives close to me. She went out of the country. So he comes to me for everything. Issues that he needs to go to his girlfriend about, but he doesn't want to. I've tried distancing myself, but he will call me nonstop or call my other friends asking me where I'm at. What should I do? Because this is becoming too much.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Yeah, and it's not. I would talk to the friend. I will say, do you watch Housewives?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Okay. So in the new season of Beverly Hills, Kyle is talking to Dorit's ex-husband. They're separated now, and it's just messy. So I would acknowledge it with your friend sooner rather than later before it gets out of control because it sounds like the friend isn't aware that they're talking about these things.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
And maybe just be like, look, I'm sorry. Honesty is always the best policy. It really is true. Yep. like attack it head on before it gets out of control, which it sounds like it is.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
That was awesome. That was like a real solution. Very good.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Yes. I've been in a situationship for like two years, and I can't seem to get myself out of it. We've both had spells of getting with other people, but she refuses to commit to me. We hang out quite often, but have only actually hooked up a few times because she's too afraid of being intimate. Same. She gets with so many other people, though. No problem.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
She refuses to be vulnerable and runs away from a real relationship. What should I do?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Enough said. That was great. That was great. You're bringing this like new perspective. Because like if that was just me there, I'd be like, fuck that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
And also self-awareness. Yeah. Self-awareness is key. I have actually zero chemistry with anyone I find attractive. Like I'm so unbelievably extroverted. I feel like I wrote this. Oh. When it comes to friends and parties, but the second someone's good looking or God forbid giving me attention, I shut down. Please help. I feel this way too.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
I feel, I think it's that I'm so uncomfortable in my own body that like I don't have time with that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
That's actually a really smart idea. We prescribe speed dating therapists. Therapists. Therapists speed dating. Yeah. Yeah. That's actually really smart. Thanks. Because I'm always like, well, I'm with one for a year and then, oh God, I'm learning something new. I met this guy back in February and fell for him immediately. He would stay up with me all night and just talk.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
We would talk about our dreams, goals, and future and family. He told me he wanted to meet my family and have a family with me. Then he ghosted me out of nowhere. SOS.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
I think it's fine. Is there actually a cut? Do you need a band-aid? No, I'm okay. I think I'm okay. Okay. What were you saying? Thank you for that. So sorry. No, it's okay.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Yeah. As someone who has ghosted people in the past and I'm not proud of it, like that is why.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Well, we put the shell. Yeah. Me and my roommate keep getting in fights because I like to sleep freezing. And she literally has the thermostat at 75.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
This is a nightmare. And it's so awkward. I'd like to change it. And she changes it back. We've talked about it, but there's no agreement.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Number one that, but in the meantime, I have an idea. You should switch off nights. One night's 75, one night's colder. The nights that it's 75, you use your fan and, like, in-room, like, cooling stuff. And then the nights that it's colder, your roommate can use, like, in-room heating stuff. Because, like, there's, like, heating fans as well. That's my prescription.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
I don't understand how someone can sleep hot. I don't understand.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Does your partner sleep cold or sleep hot or also sleeps no matter what?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Yeah. Our roommate said that if we don't share all our food with him that we are selfish people. What? What?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
We called him out on that. Now he's not speaking with us. We have to keep living with him for the next eight months. What do we do?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
I mean, at least you and your other roommates seemingly are on the same page.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Is it like, I don't really get it, but I remember I used to, Brett and Julia used to cook with me without me all the time. And I used to be furious. So like I've been the other roommate, but like maybe the fact that he won't speak to you because you're not down to share the food is a little wild.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Endure. Yeah. I prescribe the show Worst Roommate Ever on Netflix.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Or the movie Roommate with Leighton Meester. That's a horror movie. Things could be worse. Well, Lucy, what did we learn today? I learned that renewable energy is a hoax.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Thank you for my tea. I think this is the calmest I've ever been.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Well, Lucy, I really, really enjoyed spending time with you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Stream Lucy's forthcoming album, Forever's a Feeling, out March 28th.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Or else. You'll never know what forever feels like.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
such sadness because I feel like it doesn't feel like you thought it would feel like what it would feel like. Do you know what I mean?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
I think I just need to overcome. like I feel I have such bad anxiety so like if I can push through that and like feel it but there's like yeah there's moments like when I toured the show for the first time I felt that a lot when I would like come out on stage I got my first standing ovation so that's when I was like
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Yeah. You said you never like wanted any of this. But then so were you just like making music kind of for yourself and like putting it out? And did something just click and work?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
And are you still close with all your friends from your hometown?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Cause like I walked in and I didn't think she was going to be there. Like I knew she was going to be at the event, but I didn't think she was going to be there that early on. And I like looked to my right and she was there and like my heart like fell into my stomach and I was like, you know what I mean? And I like, didn't really know how to She's like actually the nicest person ever.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
I think there definitely will be. And I feel like it's like, Do you ever feel like in the parts where you're still, you're in for the parts that are like you're moving. And then when you're moving, you're like, wait, I want to be still. Never satisfied, of course. Right? Yeah. Actually, Phoebe has this lyric in I Know The End where she says, I romanticize a quiet life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
There's no place like my room. And I was, not to be so dramatic, but I would listen to that on tour all the time. Because I was like, I know all I want is my room. But then the second I get back to my room.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
It's funny you say that. I actually feel like I'm the least mysterious person on planet Earth. But I think that's my Gemini. Are you like into astrology?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
So I hear that. I'm Gemini moon and Gemini rising. Oh. So it's like I can't. So you got to be like. Like I'm so talkative and out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
But then there's moments where I'm like my social battery is just shot and I'm like I need to be alone.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
I actually can't believe, I still really can't believe that I met her, but her, her whole team, Courtney, like they were so welcoming and so lovely. Like I, it was the most incredible night. Like being able to tell someone who means so much to you, like how much they mean to you is like the best feeling in the entire world. I'm binge watching The Leftovers right now. It's amazing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Okay. So you were in Richmond, Virginia. You were in school to be a photographer. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Do you still take photos and practice photography? Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
yeah do you so people always used to say or what i've always heard is like that people photographers love to be behind the camera but then you started to be the one in front of the camera so like what was that shift like awful not fun really yeah oh my god i just saw your post-university oh you like it it's all my fake diplomas doctor of psychology um being in front of the camera not as fun
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Do you feel like with like Boy Genius, like you kind of have it's more fun because you have like your friends and the support system around you?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Hi, pussies. Welcome back to Therapist. This week we have on Lucy Dacus. She just released her new album, Forever is a Feeling. It's amazing. She's amazing. I was so honored and happy to have her here. But aside from that, we had a very exciting week last week. I announced my guest spot in Hacks, which is my favorite show. I'm so... It was literally like filming with them was like the best...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
I mean, all of your music is so sincere. But is there a song that's so personal that like you have trouble performing it ever?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Carrie Coon's in it. I started watching it because of White Lotus and someone was like, Carrie Coon's also in The Leftovers. And also Justin Theroux is like the hottest person I've ever seen in my entire life. I'm on season two, as of right now, season two, episode four. Outstanding. You guys, it's my new addiction. It's my new addiction. You have to watch it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Oh, I'm about to listen to this song with a whole new meaning. I'm so excited to listen to this again right after this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 66: Lucy Dacus
Okay, so I'm actually very excited to listen to this after. I love ankles. Oh! I love ankles. Is ankles about the partner you're with right now? Yeah. Did they love it? Yeah. When you are like in the studio and you're making music like that and you're like, I know this is going to be the first single or do you not think about it like that?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 52: Noah Beck
Solving your problems with the famous person on the couch It's Therapus He's got you on the hook He slayed and he shook It's Therapus, Therapus, Therapus, Therapus With me, Jake Shane Raise your right, yeah yeah Hi pussies and a happy new- Oh
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 52: Noah Beck
He slayed and he shook. It's therapist, therapist, therapist, therapist.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Hi pussies and welcome back to Therapus. Sorry, it is very, very cold in the Therapus office this afternoon. I don't know why, but I've never really complained about the cold before ever. You know what? Actually, let me rephrase that. I'm not complaining about the cold. In fact, I actually am really enjoying having a blanket over me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Were you picked up for the season or picked up for the next season? Or what was that like?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
But it's the it really is like a pinnacle of American culture. Like. I was rewatching it. It is. What is so funny about that?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
I've never seen myself so in a character than I have in Rachel Berry.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
I think I'm like, Do you? What do you think? Yeah, Rachel.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
I am. Like, everything she does, I'm the biggest Rachel defender till I die. Everything, like, everything she does, I'm like, good for her.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
I feel like it's because Rachel is so confident in what she likes and loves and like,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
seriously the best day of my life like i was thinking on my way here um i wanted to see you guys live at radio city because you guys went on tour and i was so excited everybody in my school was going to see you guys live at radio city and i was so excited i was trying to get my parents to buy me tickets and they agreed and then i got into it i think i was like 10 and i got sorry
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
I got into a disagreement with my parents that day.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
They took it away from me. Like, I threw a temper tantrum or something.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
So what was the schedule like? It was songs, dance, record? Or how did it work?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
was there an episode or like, was there like a musical number that you guys just couldn't get for the longest time? And it was like so hard. And it was like, you just remember being like, this is the hardest.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Right. Like the Paradise by the Dashboard Light, which is actually randomly one of my favorite Glee numbers of all time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Well, Lea Michele, everybody, is on the podcast today.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Wow. The fact that if I had told like little me that you just said that to me, like could die happy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Right. I mean, how could it not be intense? I feel like everybody on the show, it was everybody's first time for everything.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
So when you have everybody experiencing everything for the first time, how could it not be the craziest thing of all time?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Thank you. I am the world's biggest fan. I'm the world's biggest Glee. Like I am so excited that you're here.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
It was, like, literally, like, theater. Like, high school theater.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Like, crazy. Like, actually, like, I feel like maybe, like, the really, like, kids, like, younger than me, like, don't really recognize, like, at the time, like, how – everywhere Glee was. Like, it was inescapable. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it was... I mean, so when you weren't filming, were you doing press and promo and just everything under the sun?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
And are you doing your you're doing like Glee covers and stuff, huh?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Wait, they can do that? They can drive by your house and, like, say to people that's where you live?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Do you feel like there was just this like kind of adrenaline shock value of like dealing with grief in such a public way?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Do you feel, though, as like you all – you guys all banded together in like a very tight-knit way?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Thank you, SeatGeek, for sponsoring tonight's episode. Summer is approaching, which means everybody is back on tour, and there are so many concerts and live shows to see. Beyonce just begun her Cowboy Carter tour. It looks incredible. Lea Michele is about to go on tour. Tate McRae is about to go on the Miss Possessive World Tour.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
There are so many concerts and live shows to see, and SeatGeek has every single one of them, okay? When you go to the SeatGeek app, you can go scroll through concerts, what's happening in your city. And they'll show you trending events, what's popular tonight. You can browse by category.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
And with each seat that you pick, it'll show it on a scale from 1 to 10, 10 being the best, 1 being not the best. And it's really just to make sure that you get the most bang for your buck and you know exactly what type of deal you're getting. SeatGeek is really just the most accessible and quick way to go see a live show. Live shows are so important because I just feel as though nothing really –
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
connects people in the way that live music does or live shows in general. I'm about to go on tour. If you want to see me, you can get a ticket on SeatGeek. You can also use my code Therapist10 for 10% off your purchase. That's code Therapist10. If you click the link below, it'll take you to the SeatGeek app, which you can download and the code Therapist10 will be automatically applied.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
SeatGeek is just the best. I use it all the time to get tickets for concerts and It really just has everything and makes life easier and lets you see live shows, which I think is what summer is for. So thank you SeatGeek for sponsoring tonight's episode. Again, my code is THERAPIST10 for 10% off. Cheers.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
I did. So you were like you stopped drinking, obviously, for the pregnancy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Well, apparently somebody came on my show once and said that like alcohol actually means like... You're going to die of like your spirit or like something crazy, like spirit killer or like something crazy. Do you remember that spirit? And I was like, oh, shit.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
It was the first, yeah, it was the first show I ever watched live on TV.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
No, this is so on track. You want to know what? So randomly I was listening to on the way here that. is like my favorite i was everything i say is my favorite cover of all time but really is roots before fucking branches
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
It was, like, I would sit down and I would be, like, it's Glee time because everyone at school was watching Glee.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
I don't know why. I don't know why. I think it was like the first time I ever cried at a TV show.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
And it was, like, it was such a cultural moment, I feel like. I mean, every morning after, all the songs from Glee would be on the iTunes chart.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Do you remember a storyline? Because some of the storylines are so outrageous. Do you remember? But at the time when I was watching them, I was like, no, totally. And then when I was re-watching them, I was like, huh.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Like my personal favorite is when you guys all took Adderall and saying like walking on sunshine.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Do you was there like one that you were? Well, because the the real I mean, everyone says like the Glee song is like, don't stop believing. But for me, the Glee song that I remember, like changing the course of like everything.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Maybe I wouldn't be here talking to you right now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
You had so many incredible guest stars on the show.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Do you remember a favorite guest star? Just like a moment that you were like, this is insane.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
I'm like, uh, was there a moment where you were like, cause you talked about having such blinders on. Was there a moment though, where you were like able to stop and look at the view and be like, holy fuck. Any like pinch me moments?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
I have a photo of myself going like this when I was 10 years old. Will you text Cassidy and tell her to send the photo she has proof for her contact photo for me?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
What was I going to say? I need to talk to you about funny girl. Yeah. Yes. Because I think the entire world, when you booked that role, was like, this is just right. Isn't it crazy? It really is crazy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Second off, do you feel, do you feel, what do you feel the difference is in doing Broadway doing television? Cause both are incredibly hard. I feel like Broadway's six, seven times a week. So it's eight.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
What's the difference to you, which is more difficult for you?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
I haven't seen a Broadway show in forever. What? Yes, my mom.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
No, I was going to see Marilee. I was also going to see Funny Girl.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
And then I think the last Broadway show I saw, and this is really going to tell you how long ago it was, I think it was Fun Home.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
and feeling the warmth from the blanket and the cold from the outside air. So I guess I'm just making more of a statement. But tonight on Therapist, we have Leah Michelle. I grew up being the biggest Gleek in the entire world, and I never got to see Glee live in concert. So this was extremely full circle for me. And Really important to me. It was one of my favorite interviews I have ever done.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Like I can't, whenever I have canker sores, like I literally like, I've realized that men have the least amount of pain tolerance ever and women have the highest pain tolerance of all time. Like, I don't know. Like if I had a mouthful of canker sores, I would not be here right now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Hiding, hiding, hiding your mouth of the canker sores. I haven't even seen one.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
I'm pissed about my – I have sweat stains under my shirt.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
I know. I just, like, maybe. Like, I don't know what it is. Like, I never get sweat stains.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
I really, really, really did. And also, like, what I'm Thera pleased about is I have never been more –
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
But I literally have never felt so present. I when I was just talking to you, like I literally think I just entered like another dimension.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
I really, really adore you. And I'm like so grateful you felt so comfortable enough with me to talk about all those things.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
I've given the worst advice. I've given the worst advice in history.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
There was something the other day that someone was like, you told me. And I was like, holy shit, I told you that. And it was like, I can't believe that came out of my mouth. I mean, Louise will sometimes see like my Instagram stories of like me giving advice to people. And she's like, you need to take this down.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
My roommate hugs me morning and night, tracks my location, sits in my bed when I'm not home, and tells others she's in love with me. I'm overwhelmed and need help.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
And then watch single white female. My friend caught me hooking up at their lake house, ripped the covers off mid act, cussed me out and made us leave. There was plenty of other open beds. Do I apologize or is this over the top?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
I think what they are hiding is that it was in like their parents. They were in it was in someone's bed. I don't really understand this, but these friends went to their lake house. The friend whose lake house it was caught her friend who wrote this in hooking up with someone in bed and ripped the covers off, told them to leave and curse them out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
And she's like, do I apologize or is this over the top of her?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
I always lean on the side of apologizing just because like I remember in high school someone was like, well, you don't get to tell someone how that made them feel.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
But this reminds me, do you ever watch Girls on HBO? Oh my, okay. Like it's my, literally besides Glee, it's like my show of all time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Is this or is this not given when Marnie goes to – was it the lake house or a beach house and, like, everything goes awry on her entire week? Do you remember?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
No, Hannah, like, invites all the guys over. Yeah. And then Marnie's like, fuck you and –
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
It's like, you don't know what this weekend meant to Marnie. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
My ex was 10 hours late to my birthday. Brought flowers. My ex? Yeah. Wait, I don't understand how to give advice to this one. It just says my ex was 10 hours late to my birthday, brought flowers and a plan B. That was the entire gift. Like, girl, what the fuck? Help.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Like, if it was your boyfriend, then we'd have a different conversation.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
That would be amazing. I also feel like... casual like any Chapel Rowan song like Rachel would just eat anything chapel because she's like theater right like her songs are like brought I mean to me they're like it's my favorite like of all time the ultimate the ultimate Rachel Berry song I think it's driver's license
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Right? Like, I don't understand this. Wow. I placed first at a debate competition and qualified for nationals. I'm sick already.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Okay. I would pay money, obviously. To see me in a debate? Yes. I would say I would pay money for a Lea Michele debate tour.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
I feel as though as now you the rumor is so camp. It's so camp and so out of love from the gay community at this point.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Well, what was, I didn't even catch it. I was so enamored.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Oh, it's giving like the mom is super insecure and like
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Maybe is like super. Like doesn't want the dad to be like. Yeah, that's creepy. That's creepy. But you need to say something to your boyfriend.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Do you believe that, like, when you're marrying someone, you're marrying their family as well? Or, like... Yes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Yeah, like, something like that. Like, it would just be perfect.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
So it would be like staying in New York for college or staying in New Jersey for college.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Also, like, you can't focus on the past. Like, what's done is done. You already stayed for a year. You already... And it doesn't feel right. And it doesn't feel right. Get out of there.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
I thought about your car accident while I was listening to that, but that is crazy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Yeah, and be like, you're a liar. Yeah. I hate when people lie. It's like my number one thing. I can't do it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Because how are you going to ever know if they're telling the truth ever?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
You can always get it fixed. One time when I was a kid.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
One time I cut my friend's hair. We cut each other's hair in the closet and we got in so much trouble. This is deep. Yeah, I think we like hid in a closet and cut each other's hair. Oh my God.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
No, we got in so much trouble for cutting each other's hair and it looked so bad. Her hair was just mauled. Like I wrecked the hair. I just did the workshop and she was able to go to the hairstylist and get it fixed.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Go get it fixed and maybe take like a beta blocker or something that like relaxes you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
And how does it manifest for you? Do you like pace? Do you sit quiet, talk?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Right, because you're exerting so much mental strength.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
I'm so grateful for you and your friendship. And everything you've done for me in my life, like without even, you don't even know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
I really love you. You too. And I'm really excited.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
And that I love you more than I ever thought. You do. I love you. Thank you so much.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Is there anything you remember that was like going on behind the scenes that you were like, oh, my God, if only these people watching knew right now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
You had a lot of like family, like family on that show, like Jonathan Groff. And you were in Spring Awakening.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
I'm glad that you did. Were you guys did you push for him to join the show? Like, how did that work?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
During the interview, I honestly couldn't believe that I was doing it because I kept thinking about how excited I would be as a 10-year-old if you told me that this would be my life today. So I'm just very grateful to Leah and everyone. It was incredible. It was incredible and I'm so excited for you guys to hear it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
That is a wild, crazy, wild story. That makes so much sense.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
But is it true that... Because I remember hearing that when you auditioned, there was a car crash or something that happened right before and you had glass in your hair.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Before I go, if you want to see me live, go to pastthatpuss.com and click live with Jake Shane to see if I'm coming to a city near you and click tell me what's wrong to tell me what's wrong. Leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy. Love you pussies.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
That is the, I feel like life imitates art in Glee with you. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
What do you mean by that? How did that come about?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
That is crazy. And then you did Les Mis. You were eight years old. And then from there, what's happened?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 71: Lea Michele
Were you like, did you guys have what were your expectations for Glee upon shooting?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
Hi, pussies! Welcome back to Therapist. This is the first time I've ever recorded... an intro away from home, I think, right? I think this is the first time I've ever done it, but we are on the bus. We are on tour. We've done Dallas and we've done Baton Rouge. Tonight is New Orleans. It's Mardi Gras. I am so happy to be here. I'm so excited.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
I want. Relationship. I want. Yeah, I would like a boyfriend.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
I don't know. I don't I don't know what I would like it to make me feel confident.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
And I would like it to give me more life experience stories.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
Like I want to be able to like lay down with someone and watch TV, but also like feel romantic with them.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
I feel my main issue with dating is I am so insecure. Like I don't know how I'm going to share. I feel like when you're in a relationship, you like share your body with someone almost like you have to like be so vulnerable. And I struggle so much with like. To be frank, like being like naked with someone.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
Sometimes I love it. Yes. Like sometimes – like yesterday I woke up and I felt so good and then today I just don't feel good. And it's like I don't know how I'm going to be able to share that with someone ever.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
Yes. I would say that's a huge, huge reason because it's how I carry myself. I don't give off that like I want to take off my clothes and be with someone.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
Someone made a comment when I was in fourth or fifth grade and it really stuck with me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
I was wearing a rascard, I think. Yeah, it was horrible. And then I... I don't know. And then I really lived my life on the internet for my entire life. I spent my entire life on the internet. So I was a Tumblr kid. I was, what does a Tumblr kid mean? Like I, so like I was really, you know, so it's Tumblr is a website.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
So like I'm seeing Tumblr's, All about Tumblr is all about the aesthetic. It's very aesthetically pleasing. I was also introduced, and I have, my parents, I love them for this, let me watch whatever I wanted to at a young age. Okay. So I was watching any movie I wanted to, any, it's part of why I'm so creative and so into this space now. But I was seeing, like I was introduced to what sex is. Yes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
Based on like a multi-million dollar movie. So those men are ripped.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
So that's what I'm thinking like a normal person looks like. And then also in the gay scene, it's very, very, very body focused. Yes. So I'm short and I don't have a six pack. So it's like I don't have either of them. Okay. And when you're in the gay scene, you're kind of forced into certain roles. Uh-huh. And I don't really know. I always felt like...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
my body was weird and watching people on TV, I still felt like it was weird. And then because of that, like I then had a weird relationship with food and I'm like, do like, okay, I like, I was remaining in the kitchen. So like, I'm just going to eat a lot less. And then I eat like, and then I end up binging.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
And I just like, I just have a horror at the end of the day, I just have a horrible relationship with my body. And I don't know how to feel good. And then like right when I feel good about it, like something happens where I'm like, oh, no, I don't feel good about it anymore.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
Yeah, it's just hard because so much of my comedy is so self-deprecating. So, like, my whole bit is, like, making fun of myself.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
And then – but I, like, I believe it, you know? Like, I buy into that. So it's – I don't know how to separate the two. Like, what my job and my persona and what I do to make people laugh is me. Uh-huh. I don't know how to separate the two.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
That I feel sexy and I feel attractive and I feel like I feel hot. I feel attractive. I feel like powerful. Oh, I love that. I can get what I want.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
I'm a really confident guy, but I do not like how I feel about my body and I don't like how I feel about how I look on the outside.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
Um, I have, I like, like I'll look in the mirror and I'll like take my sides and I'll like pull them back like this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
Like I would like to pull my duct tape there. No, but I will. And I would like to like just shave my sides off. Um, I like have a bigger like bosom area. So I would like that to be flatter. Um, I've been working out my arms a lot. Great. And, um, but it's not toned. It's more just like bigger. I'd like to shrink it. I don't like my chin. I feel like I have kind of like a double chin.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
I feel like I have a bump in my nose, but that's like kind of the least of it. And then I really might, at the end of the day, I hate how short I am. Okay. I hate how short I am.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
Like, no, because then I would feel not – I don't want to wear heels. I just want to be taller. Okay. I want to be, like, 5'7". That would have been great.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
I think just the way I really and truly like I think more guys would want me if I was taller. At the end of the day, what I think.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
I think sometimes I feel like I'm speaking into a void. I don't know why I never thought that someone was like actively being like, I am so excited to listen to this and I'm going to, actively press this and listen to this, I, it's when you don't, it's okay. I think it's because I started on TikTok and TikTok is very fast and very hard. Yep. So it's kind of like, like love bombing. What?
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
I just feel unhappy. I base all my happiness and like other things that happen to me. I am not happy. Like when I go to bed, like I don't feel happy in my body. I don't feel happy in myself.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
Right. Never. Yeah. That's just not what I... Like, your waist is too big. Yeah.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
Like my, exactly, exactly like my microphone, but everything happens really very, very quick and TikTok, you know, within like five minutes of your videos working or not. And like how many people are liking it and like, yes. Oh my God. That is so cool. That really just like changed my whole perspective on this. Honestly, I'm not even just kidding.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
My entire life from morning to night is, I'm so, you could describe me as one thing. It's in my head.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
I like now feel like there is like one person right there that's listening. Yeah. It helps you visualize.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
I can get on people's shoulders during music festivals. Great.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
Skiing's easier for me. Yeah. Because I'm closer to the ground.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
That too. I look different. So like people can call me out easier and I'm more like jarring to the eye. So like.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
Oh. Recognizable. Yes. Yes. Yes. And so like people, I can be more of a personality because I look different.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
Right. I used to have this bit in my show. Um, Where I wore this outfit to this award show once and my bosom was out and about. And I like basically go through everything people said about me.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
Because I thought I believed it was true. And that's why it was funny. Because it's true.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
No, see, it looked worse than it was. And I actually give credit to my ski instructor who was filming it, who's the best. Shout out, Adrian. And it looked, he cut it. The video was just perfectly timed. I fell, and he cut it immediately, so it all seemed very fast. Wasn't that bad though.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
I think it's really hard for me because I actually discovered this on TikTok, but like a symptom of OCD is like thinking you're a bad person and you have bad intentions. So I sometimes really convince myself I'm a bad person. Like I feel like I don't know myself.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
And so when someone says, that's why I always say I don't really mind when someone said, like I have very thick skin when it comes to like, I say I have thick skin.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
But I think I'm very good at deflecting comments about my appearance. So when I get a comment about my appearance, I can deflect it quickly into a joke or I can I can change it and like make it funny and get something else out of it. Yes. When someone comments about my intentions and my character, I really take it to heart and I really feel like a bad person.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
Thank you. And I actually found, do you ski? Yes. For me, it was because I don't drive. Why don't you drive? Okay. So I grew up in, I grew up in New York. Right. So it was never, it was never needed.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
That I need to let people form their own opinions of me and not base my behavior and how I think their opinions are going to be formed based on what I do.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
And then I moved to LA and then my dad just like, he coddles me and he's like, you cannot drive the car. And like, he's like, you will crash. And I'm like, I know I will crash. I don't think I can accept the responsibility.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
Right. I feel responsible sometimes. I know what you – like now I'm like – like I feel like if my actions make someone feel a certain way. Uh-huh. I'm responsible for how they feel.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
I'm the biggest venter. Like I talk and talk and talk and talk and talk. Until like the words are like nails on a chalkboard.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
I get really homesick, but seeing you guys makes it so much better. I just like every place. I really love the South. I'm discovering I really, really love the South. Connor's with us. He's the best. He's so funny. I love watching him on stage. Today we have Mel Robbins on the podcast. I tried to be as open and honest as possible.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
Yes, I think I do. But I'm so accustomed to not driving now. I can't imagine driving.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
It's just hard because in LA, you're at the mercy of drivers. As in New York, you're at the mercy of yourself because you can take public transportation easy. You can walk everywhere. But is it an anxiety thing? It must be. Okay. I think I really cannot picture myself driving. I cannot. I get so distracted so easily. Everything distracts me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
This episode of Therapist is brought to you by Booking.com. Booking dot yeah! So we have been using Booking.com non-stop to book all of the hotels and all of our travel for tour. I totally forgot how stressful booking travel was until you are in a group of 10 people and we all need a place to stay and we are all incredibly last-minute people, especially Matt, who I love dearly.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
Booking.com makes it easy to book travel because it shows you exactly what you are looking for. You can set criteria if you want a pool. You want a hot tub, you want a balcony. And that's specifically very important for me and my team on tour because most of the time are in cities we've never been in before.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
So it's, we really rely on booking.com to book the best hotels or wherever meets all of our needs the most. For example, today we literally woke up in New Orleans and Matt was like, oh my God, I forgot to book the hotel and we had nowhere to stay. And so we went on booking.com and
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
We found a hotel literally across the street from the venue with all of the requirements we needed and we booked that immediately. And it was just so simple and so easy and it took all the stress away from travel, which is something that I really appreciate as someone who is really stressed out all the time, especially during travel.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
I've also found that it's incredibly useful and very important to find stays walking distance to the venue. When you're on tour, it's hard to like actually move your body and walk around. It's important to find a hotel that is walking distance to the venue. No matter who you are, Booking.com helps you find the stay that is ridiculously right for you. So what are you waiting for?
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
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Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
Some hobbies I enjoy doing... are complaining, going on my phone and doom scrolling, cooking. I love cooking. I love working out. I love watching TV. So if I could find someone that loves going on their phone in silence with me, that would be ideal for me. And honestly, I think you can make anything out to be a hobby. It's just, I feel like the definition of a hobby is just
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
My brain moves at like 100 miles a minute. I can see that. If I'm driving, I don't know how I would – I don't think it would be safe for other people. Wow. And myself.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
My brain moves at the speed of – I don't even know. It just jumps and jumps and jumps and jumps and jumps.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
You know, it's funny you say that because I was talking to my dad about like an old therapist I went to, and he was telling me that that therapist – said that about me when I was like five. So I guess it has always been that way.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
It's because, like, when I pick someone, I'm like, okay, like, that is... Like, I'm talking... I was thinking about this... I was honestly thinking about this guy I was talking to.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
And he... I thought he didn't respond to me, but it turns out I didn't respond to him. So I reached out the other day and we were talking and he was being lovely and we were having a great conversation and he, he was on a plane somewhere and he said he was going to watch this movie and he was like, and then I was like, I'll watch it too.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
And then, so I've been trying to watch it and then I was like, I'm going to text him when I finished the movie. But then I was like, should he have tech? Like, is it, Should I text him that I finished the movie or should I let him text me that he finished the movie? Or does he not care? That's what I was thinking about.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
I was questioning... Well, I didn't finish the movie yet. So there's that. There's that. But I was questioning, like, why didn't he text me that he finished the movie? Because I know he finished the movie because he was on a plane. How do you not finish a movie on a plane? You know what I mean? Let him. Okay.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
Do you want it to change? I think so. I think it would make me more grateful if it changed. Like, I think I would be able to like live in the moment more.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
Cause like life moves so fast for me, but so slow at the same time.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
Yeah, or I'll text him. I'm having a really hard time getting through this movie. I'm sorry I recommended it to you. It kind of sucks. Yes. Did you end up finishing it?
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
Like, I feel like I blink and I'm like, how did I end up here? Like I've known Louise now for, almost three years. It feels like I just met her yesterday. And I can't remember a time in between that, that I like looked around and I was like, took in the view. So everything moved really fast. But then in the moment, all I'm thinking about, like all I'm thinking about is the next thing.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
Yeah, that is true. I was like, you should watch this. I heard it's amazing.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
Yeah, they are. Because I'm not going to think about my height.
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Yes. If that person chooses me, that means I am like on par with that.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
I feel like that is so true to me. I'm always wondering how I'm going to look with another person and how they like what I'm going to be like with them like on Instagram, just transparently. And yeah, I do think that. All the time.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
And then I can't appreciate that. the present, but it also moves so fast at the same time. I don't know how to, if I'm describing that.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
That there are certain things I need to do. Like I need to actually practice in order to feel better about myself and how I live life.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
Like I can't just like be complacent in my, how I like feel all the time.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
I think that's actually what I did. Yes. In terms of like, I remember like my senior year, I just started posting and posting, but I just didn't care because I thought it was funny. As long as I was making someone laugh, like I didn't really care. And then it ended up lucky, luckily becoming a business.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
I, Matt, my tour manager is here. I'm really, really happy he's here.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
I thought they were supposed to be like the best, though.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
Yeah, I don't have many. Like I do. I remember things. Yes. But like not like, yeah, I don't have many.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
Louise was like, you have to, if she's coming on, you have to be honest. So I was just, I let it all rip. And, you know, she's the author of The Lepton Theory, hosted one of the number one podcasts in the world. She's incredible. I'm really, really excited for you guys to hear from her, if you haven't already, which I'm sure you have. I love you, pussies.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
Can I do the exercise right now? Okay. Can I just like name a time?
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
Okay. I was really, really, really happy when I woke up. I went on tour in the fall. I'd never done it before. And I didn't think people were going to buy tickets on the pre-sale.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
so uh materialistic but i just i did i really didn't and i got a text that it all sold out and i and i wasn't expecting it and i was really happy okay and what was your day-to-day life like i was having a lot of fun it was during summer and i was just living my life okay but like tell me more like where what time would you get up like who are you hanging out with like
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
You were traveling? And I was working. Okay. I was going to a lot of events. I was working the whole summer. Okay. I was showing up to places. I was really putting myself out there.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
I was saying yes to things. Saying yes to things. I was saying yes to things. Okay. I remember it was right after this like weekend, so happy.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
Like literally the best weekend of my life. Okay. What happened? I went to, uh, my friend was, my friend is a DJ. He was performing in Las Vegas. Come to Las Vegas. Let's do this. I always say no. I always say no. Not to him, just in general to stuff like that. I'm always like, I don't, I'd rather just stay here. And Peyton was like, she was like, you, we're, we're going. we need to go. I do.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
We need this for me. Like I need to go. And then my friend Ashton too was like, let's go. So we went and, um, then we flew from Vegas to the Hamptons. We like, I was living my gossip girl dream. I flew from Vegas to the end. Like that is something, if you told me I did that as a kid, I couldn't even imagine that that's real. And I literally just had like I felt so on top of the world.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
Like I felt like I could do anything. I was, I felt like the coolest person in the world.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
Wow. You have your own formula. Yeah. you know what to do.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
So it's not about like the extra, the outside stuff. It's like what you are actually doing. Yes. Like you're dancing. You're saying yes. You're waking up early. You're working out.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
So funny you say that because I feel like, or I've always told myself that if I become successful and people want more of me, That will make me feel good. I'll become more successful and I'll get the hot guy because he will want my life and want what I have. But that's such a bad way to think.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
Period. You ready for the tell me what's wrongs? Yes. I'm currently in art school and there's so many personal projects I want to do to add to my portfolio so I can actually get a job. Every week I tell myself that I'm going to work on my projects, but I always end up getting sidetracked and doing something else like decorating my room, meaningless chores, et cetera.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
It makes me feel awful, but it's not like I'm not motivated to do them. I just put it last in my priorities.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
Do you have advice for that? My advice would be to just like force yourself to do it one day. And then like that starts a pattern. It's kind of like what I did with working out. Like I always put it last in my priorities, priorities. And once you just like force yourself to go, like you end up, it becomes natural. Like I used to smoke a lot of weed every single day.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
I would smoke weed like morning to the night. Um, And then I quit and then I really missed it the first week. Second week, I missed it a little less. Third week, I missed it. Now I don't even really think about it. So like when this person – the same goes for starting a project. So like you start it the first week. It might be hard to like keep yourself on doing it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
Second week is a little less hard and then it just becomes second nature. Yeah.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
Right. Right. Yeah. Just 15 minutes. That's it. And then you might even want to spend more time doing it. All right. Yeah. There we go. There we go. What? A prescription? That. That. Yeah.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
I recently have found out that my boyfriend's family is very wealthy. It all hit me when plans started to form for our vacation that we are going on next week. What's wrong? I'm a small town girl and I feel worried I'm not going to fit in with their vibe. How do I cosplay?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
And like if they're not going to think of you in a certain regard because of your wealth, then why would you even want to be with them?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
Right. It's like how a guy treats you in front of his friends.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
I ghosted my best friend of 10 years. We live a few hours away from each other now and she basically randomly called me one day just judging my entire life and made me feel like shit. It was completely out of nowhere. It's been two years and I still don't know if ghosting her was the right move.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
And it's never too late to clean up something. Yeah. It's still on the floor. Oh.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
Clip that. It's true. Just because you don't clean it up doesn't mean it's going to magically disappear.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
I dated a girl for three years with a super unique name. We broke up a year ago. And I think this girl in my philosophy class is really cute. She happens to have the same exact name as my ex. I can't tell if the name thing is part of my crush on her. Or if I actually really like her. Am I psychologically fucked? Let me know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
I just found out my boyfriend went to the strip club last night with his frat brothers. Do I go total ape shit or try to be cool? He also will never take me out to a nice dinner. So I don't know where he's getting the money.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
Right. It sounds like he told her... No, it doesn't sound like he lied to her.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
Let him. Right. You don't think that's cheating at all?
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
That he never spends his money on her. Okay. That's what she's saying. She's like, how does he spend this money on the strip club but not on me?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
Well, yeah. I don't know what to describe besides once again, that. My sister is really pretty, and everyone is always telling me that she is super hot. How do I not compare myself to her? This is my daughter's.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
Oh, I see what you mean. You're not playing against someone in a card game. You can share cards and look at their.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
And you know what? I think that's a beautiful place to end. Mel, thank you so much for coming on Therapist. Thank you. I had a lovely, lovely time with you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
She told me before this started, you have to be honest.
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
I can't wait to give you another tour update. Hi, pussies. Welcome back to Therapus. Today, I don't think I've ever had so many people be so excited about a guest before in my entire life. Today, we have New York Times bestselling author, author of The Let Them Theory, host of the number one podcast in the world, the Mel Robbins podcast, Mel Robbins.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
Like the worst case scenario, because I have very bad OCD as well, like in terms of like...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
Right. That's what I'm thinking. That's why your let them theory resonated so well with me because it was like you cannot control anything. All I want you to do is control everything because I'm so scared of something bad happening. Okay. I'm so scared of something bad happening.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
my, I have this like fear ever since I was a kid, like of getting in trouble. So like now with, um, what I do, I, I'm very scared of saying the wrong thing and then having everything taken away from me. And then what do I do? I have nothing. So like, that's like, you know, that's what I think about. I'm scared of losing everything.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
I don't know. Like, I don't know where I would go. I don't know. Cause you in like, I'm the type of person who I make really real relationships with everyone, even the people I work with. So it's like if you lose everything and then those people that you work with and they're not there anymore, if you lose everything, then what happens? What do you have?
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Session 60: Mel Robbins
I'm so scared of Jake saying that. Like that's what I'm so scared of. Like I'm so superstitious. Like if it all works out and then I'm like, oh my God, well, if I just said that, is it not going to work out?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 60: Mel Robbins
What were we just talking about? Oh, I was telling you how your podcast feels like, and I have a very short attention span. I have a very hard time listening to things. I have a very hard time reading. But I was listening to your podcast the other day. It was so easy to listen to.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Hi pussies, and welcome back to Therapist. Today we have one of my best friends in the entire world on, Brett. You guys all know Brett, so I don't really know if I need to explain anything about Brett. But for those that don't know Brett, Brett and I have been best friends since the first day of college. It's like one of those, like, we met and instantly became best friends.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
There was a moment where we were, like, miserable.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
We didn't go out. We only went to Taylor Swift nights.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
But at the time market was only playing like house music with no words.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I didn't enjoy myself last time I was there. No offense to anyone that I was with. I love you all. But like I didn't enjoy myself.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Like Julia threw up in a cup and left. And like Irish goodbye.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
It was recently. And I was like about to like get into having fun.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
And Julia threw up in a cup. And I was like about to get into having fun. And Julia wasn't there. And I was like okay.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Pei would have stayed. But Julia, you left at the original party.
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Session 55: Brett’s Back
It was a miracle that you were there to begin with.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
To the younger viewers, don't do what we do. Mm-mm. Like that, but we aren't trying to be role models, but continue.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I just spoke about this when Julie and I recorded, but there was this thing about this girl that took an Ambien on a plane and blacked out so bad she masturbated mid-flight. And a flight attendant walked by and saw her pants down. No.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Have you ever heard Manny's Ambien story? It's not that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
So Manny's Ambien story, Manny took an, cause I almost took an Ambien. Like I've never taken one before ever. And we had a lot. What, why did I want one?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
We had a six hour flight and I had a show. And I was really, really, really scared that I wasn't going to be able to sleep. I was terrified.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Yes. I almost took an Ambien. It was an Ambien, right? And right on my tongue. And she goes, before you take that, I just want to tell you, go straight to bed. Don't stay awake. You might do weird shit. And I was like, what? Because the way I fall asleep is I scroll. That's how I fall asleep. It's toxic, but I would have stayed up had I taken it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I didn't know it didn't automatically just knock you. I didn't know you had to actively close your eyes. And She was like, when I took an Ambien on the plane for the first time, I fell asleep and there was a bag of Cheez-Its next to me. I woke up, the bag of Cheez-Its was gone and like finished. And I turned to the guy next to me and I said, hey, did you eat these Cheez-Its?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
And he said, no, you actually woke up in the middle of the night, ate the Cheez-Its, then accused me of eating the Cheez-Its, went back to bed, woke up and have done now the same thing twice. Shut up. And I was like- Did you know the guy?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Shut up. God forbid. God forbid I like post something crazy or like- Oh, so true. Like God forbid I just like have a Kristen Wiig moment. Like I just like was like, you know what?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
But I'm not going to think about it until closer to when my lease is up on this place. I just love LA so much. I don't know how I would ever leave. My entire life is here. Everyone I love is here. I don't want to leave. But I love New York. Wait, we just announced tour. Since last week, we just announced tour. I'm really excited. I can't... I'm thinking... I'm nervous for sure.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Oh, I met someone the other day that was taking lorazepam.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Okay, well, you know what I'm watching now that you would love?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
And it's like giving like, It's like, I don't really know the premise. She works for like an anti, I think she works for the CIA. Oh. What's this on? It's on Paramount Plus.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Oh, you know who scored disclaimer was Phineas. He did the music for that show.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Apparently there's like, I don't want to spoil anything. I don't even know the spoiler. But apparently there's some like massive twist there.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I just like, I couldn't, I was having a hard time following it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I always give people, like, when I have, like, a guest come in.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
So, like, in Leigh Bay's episode, she sits in this chair. And I'm trying to think of, like, someone else that also sat in this chair.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
These are so much more comfortable than the last round.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I don't know. I guess this is like, these are the last few weeks.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Were they here last year? No. That's why I was like, I know we missed them one year.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
But in Orlando, I'll never forget. Like, Brett's mom always sent us cookies in college. Always. You always came home with cookies.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
But, like, I stand out. Like, I really wait for the Christmas cookies to really, like... She made this batch, like, especially for, like, Jake's excitement about the cookies. If there's one thing Mocho's gonna do, it's support me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Like, I will never forget... Brett's mom is one of my favorite people in the entire world. I will never forget. After my Chicago show, we were – there was a huge crowd of people. Like, I could barely – like, honestly, like, vibe. Like, thank you, guys. Thank you for that. Like, it made me feel really famous.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
But, like, I was trying to get in the car, and suddenly I see this woman pushing through people. She goes, it's Megan! And I turn around, and I'm like, oh, Mojo! Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Mocho is my everything. And she made these cookies for me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
And I'm really pleased because in Orlando. Yay. Wait, you guys don't want some?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Thank you. Oh, mine's Galinda. Who's yours? Also Galinda.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I'm definitely nervous, but I'm really, really excited to get back on the road. If you went to my last tour, this is a different show. There might be some elements that are the same, but for like the most part, this is a different show. I'm really excited. I'm really excited for Matt to come back. Does he get, does he land tonight?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
They're crack. They're seriously the best things in the entire world. Like.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
And I'm so grateful that they're having their moment on TikTok.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
You've been at this way longer than you give yourself credit for.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
She like came into college and was like, I have breath bites.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
And then like we were like, and then during COVID, that's when you really started to take it seriously.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
One thing about me and Brett is whenever we eat, we have synced up reactions.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Like, and the best part about these cookies is that they get better as you continue to bite into them.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Buy it. Yummy. Wait. Like at a second wave hits, you know?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
It's like a second. Oh my God. They're amazing. You know what's crazy?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Is the last time we recorded, I had, I would say like my first real viral TikTok sound on this app. And it's crazy because there was only one clip made from that entire episode. It was that. And I was going to have more made. I usually like sometimes like have them made as the week progresses. But I just had one made because it was Coachella weekend. It was my first Friday drop.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
It was the first surprise episode. I just threw up the clip and it was Coachella weekend. So I didn't really think anything of it. And then all of a sudden.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
It felt really good. It felt like we did a good job at something.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I didn't think it was as funny as, like, I just was like, oh, it's cute.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
You guys, I have been desperately trying to coerce Matt into doing a therapist episode and Please, like, do you want a Matt reveal? Just for like five minutes. That's all I ask from him. Five minutes on this podcast. That'd be awesome. Speaking of tour, you can buy tickets for my tour on SeatGeek. Thank you SeatGeek for sponsoring today's episode.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
It wasn't like, because I have moments where I'll clip something from the show and I'm like, this is going to be the clip to end all fucking clips and it's just not.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
And like, it's really just shows you that like it's the things you'll never expect.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
But I was just having fun. It's when you're having fun.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Yeah, they use it a lot during the election. Like, go vote.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Well, the marathon part can, like, it's basically me insinuating I know something. You're saying you actually don't know it. And you should know it because it's common sense.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Right. And we made dessert bowls in that episode.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Because it's like I don't want to not experience something just because I'm such a miserable human. Like, do you know what I mean? Like, everyone's like, everyone's like, are you ever happy? No, I'm miserable. Like, I'm a miserable human. Like, but at the same time, like, complaining is my love language. Like, I look back and, like, I, like, laugh about things I complained about.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Like, it's just, like, I'm just Jewish. Like, I don't know. I think that's what it is. But, like, I don't know. Like, I don't want to ever. But then it's, like, sometimes, like, I don't need to apologize for anything. Not like, not everyone's enjoyment comes from the same thing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
So it's like. You're valid. I need to just, I need a breath. I love, it's like, and then sometimes I'm like, oh, I gotta get out of LA. And then I get out of LA and I'm like, I would literally cut my own dick off with a saw to be back in LA. Like, I love this goddamn city more than anything in the entire world.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I ride or die for LA. You really do. I really ride or die for LA.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Just because it's like, I like, I have my things and I think that goes for wherever people live. Yeah. Like I have my things. I wake up and I do my thing. Like, you know what I mean? Like I have on Saturday, like I have my thing on Sunday. I do John day. I do my thing. Like I have my things. Like, you know what I mean?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Fuck that. We're done. We're fucking done with that place. I am so sorry. I got you fresh corn grill. I mean, I'm sorry if you are not from LA and you're like, what the fuck are these literal losers talking about?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
You have to be here. You have to understand. Basically, fresh corn grill is like... Okay, let me... Tell me, stop me if I'm wrong. There's this really expensive restaurant called The Ivy. It's very sceney. It's, I've never been the biggest fan. Sue me. They love it. I've never been the biggest fan.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I don't. I don't... Yeah, I don't have a pep in my step when I'm en route. Like, I don't... Like, I don't want to go there. And it's also just... It's so expensive. And, like, really... It's stupidly expensive. It's like they are, like, assuming that you're paying for the experience. And it's like, bitch, what experience? I'm sitting at a table.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Like, it's not even like we're at, like, the Rainforest Cafe and there's, like, fun things going on. Like, I don't know what I'm paying for.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Sorry. And... But regardless, the Ivy does have a really good, like, Spanish rice and a really good carne asada. So, the chef at the Ivy made, like, a fast casual restaurant, right? Called Fresh Corn Grill. We discovered it in college.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
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Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
In a way. I didn't think it was disgusting until I watched someone get a sun-dried tomato pasta from there.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
And I hate sun-dried tomatoes. And, like, actually, more than anything in the entire world. Pfft.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Like, what, you put them out in the sun and dry them? Like, that's disgusting.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Oh, sorry. I couldn't tell if it was a laugh, a burp, or a cough. So I just thought I'd check in. Continue.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
That's not a question of you being polite or not. Like you're paying for something. Like you're allowed to say like, this is exactly.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
What was up with mine? Did I get like pasta or something?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Wait, Brett, when I tell you, this conversation is going so seamlessly. I guess I'm not surprised as to why it does, considering we're best friends. But still, it's always nice when that happens.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I was about to say you were at Tampax headquarters.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Okay, and so did you see like the, like what was the vibe?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
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Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
What? You know where we have not been back. You know what I'm about to say. We went there once. I have begged and begged and begged to go back.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
La cha cha cha. I have begged and begged. It was the greatest fucking food I've ever had in my entire life. It was the greatest food I've ever had in my entire life. And because I don't drive, no one will come with me because I like have to get them to agree.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Because the chips were, like, popped or something. Like, and they had, like, pasta. Oh, I remember us saying we didn't need that pasta, though.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
We liked the pasta. Yeah. The chips were just, they went stupid. Like, they were incredible.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I mean, should we just get into the tell me what's wrongs?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Severance. We never talked about, did you watch the trailer for season two?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
It was one of the greatest finales I've seen on television ever.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
It was, it was just because of like how it all went down. It was so well written and like, it was just so good. It was so good.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I'm so excited for season two. I forgot about the whole missing wife thing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Yeah, what was the, what did that mean? Was that like his visions of?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
At the end of season one, I was like, give me season two now. And now that season two's here, I'm like.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
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Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
It's literally, do you watch Hacks, Manny? I haven't seen this last season. The last season's the greatest season. It's the best season. The best one. And it's just good. It's great television.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I love Leon. What else does she have that we love?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I hate to be that selfish asshole. I really need reputation.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I really need it. I hate – but, like, I feel so bad saying that because, like, imagine you finish, like, a world tour. Each show is three and a half hours. And how many shows did she do? Like, 150?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Oh, Jesus Christ. Like, I can't say that. Never mind. I take it back.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
This is why – okay. I read like the erotor and theories. I don't think people understand how exhausting it is to clown. Beyond exhausting. It's exhausting. And that's why I like give up on it. I'm like, I can't do this anymore.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Because also like there is some beauty and like being surprised.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
And of course it makes sense. They all make sense. They always make sense.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
But, like, it is fine. But then it's not fine when you're sitting there and you're so disappointed. Yeah. Every single time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Like, but it's, like, I don't want to be. Like, it's, like, okay. I think the reason I love Evermore so much is, like, I really wasn't expecting that. Like, I. Yeah. I was. I don't know what I was expecting. But I remember. Oh. Like, there's just some moments of my life I'll never forget. And the day Evermore dropped, like, from start to finish, I will never forget that day.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
You woke me up at five in the morning. Yeah. I was like, Taylor is releasing an album. I said, excuse fucking me right now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Yeah, I said, excuse me. And I was like, okay, like, I wonder what this is going to be like. And the second I heard the opening strings to Willow, I was like, this album's my Roman Empire.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
It is. That's my number one favorite Taylor album. My number one. And my top albums always kind of shift. I will say the number one and two always are 1989 Taylor's Version and Evermore.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
1989 Taylor's Version, just because, like, is it over now, is, like, so fucking good. Yeah, it's so good. And Now That We Don't Talk is so good. And Suburban Legends is so fucking good. And, like, 1989 in general is just so good. But I would say the third often varies between – well, back in the day, it used to be Fearless.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Back in the day, that was, like, my Roman Empire, that album. But I would say the third is probably – Lover.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Probably lover. Yeah. I love Daylight so much that like I don't know what to do about it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Rep is your number one. I love Rep more than anything. Well, obviously that's not true. I love other albums more. But I don't know where it is.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
You all love her. Queen of dessert bowls, marathons and Christmas cookies. Please welcome Brett.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
There's just like, I'm trying to think of like why that's not higher.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Fuck, I love Evermore so much. I'm like ruminated on- It's also Evermore season right now. It is Evermore season.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
When it's summer, like that's lover season for me. And I know people say that's folklore season. August is folklore season for me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
But lover is like, I will never forget summer 2021. Like the world was kind of going back to normal. I think like we like- Half stopped wearing masks, half didn't. And I discovered, I don't know what, like there's certain songs that just get lost in translation for me on occasion. And Daylight was one of those songs. And when I discovered.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I just like was so amazing. And I would like remember getting on the New York subway.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Okay. Sorry. We had a little bit of technical difficulties and I had a panic attack. So. Well, I'm reading these on my phone. There's a little bit of technical difficulties. My boyfriend always throws up when I get naked. We've been dating for three years. He says it's because he gets nervous, but like it's been three years. Is that crazy? Yes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Oh my God, that's like my worst nightmare. I'm sorry. I know I'm here to make you feel better, but like you need to leave him.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Maybe it is because he gets nervous, but like girl, like.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
My own insecurities wouldn't be able to handle that. That's just me. So like if he, I just need, I would need to protect my peace in that situation.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Break up with him. Sorry, I'm sorry. But, like, I'm also sorry for you that that happens.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Nothing's wrong. I just got engaged, and I wanted to tell you. Call me. Aw. Let's wish them a happy engagement.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Wait, we're so sorry, but we just needed to congratulate you on your engagement.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Thank you guys. Wait, can you, what's your name? What's your name?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Oh, period. Wait, tell us, when did you get engaged?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Congratulations. It's really cute. When is your wedding? Where, when, where is your wedding? Do you know anything about that yet?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
No, we know. Well, I don't, because I'm single, but I know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I know. It's crazy. It's crazy that I had people here in that space last year.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Oh my God, Holly. Well, we actually fucking love you. I was in such an anxious mood before this phone call, like literally spiraling, like recording, like actually tweaking. And this made my entire day. You've made me feel so much better. I love you guys. We love you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Yeah, I know. That's why I like feel safe being like I'm anxious because it's just Brett. But do you want to give a little hi, pussies? Hi, Holly. Tense up. We love you. We love you. Congrats.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
What should I do when my best friend is not talking to me because her boyfriend said that he had a crush on me? but I've never met him. I know it sounds weird, but I swear I've never seen this man in my life. She is so pissed at me and not at him. Like she's not even going to break up with him.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
The random treadmill. No, the treadmill was one thing. And then what else did we have? We had a million suitcases. It was like, I don't know what happened. I think it was when I lost my luggage and a bunch of brands sent me suitcases.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I'm at such a loss because I've had nothing to do with this situation, but it involves me and IDK what to do. Help, please. Your best friend sounds incredibly insecure.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
And this relationship sounds miserable and despicable. Yeah. But I will say, I actually love the term hold space. We can hold space for the fact that this does make you upset and you are losing a best friend. Yeah. But there are certain situations where it's like there is literally nothing you can do. You can't take her and shake her and be like, you are being crazy. Yeah. Because she won't listen.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
No, it doesn't matter if it's toxic or not. It's the truth.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I prescribe to you Tell Me Lies. I just became friends with benefits with my ex-boyfriend's brother. Am I going to hell? Dash Rebecca. Rebecca, no. No. You're not going to hell.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I prescribe to you. I prescribe John Tucker Must Die. Because in John Tucker Must Die, the main character ends up hooking up with John Tucker's brother, which is Penn Badgley. I'm sorry for the spoiler alert.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
We've been best friends ever since. We've lived together for, I think we're going on year three now. Everyone knows her. I feel like you all know her. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. Anywho, I just got back from Courchevel, France, and I had the time of my life scheme. I didn't take my meds for five days. I felt so at peace. So that's just kind of what's going on in my mind.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
But that's what I prescribe. Have you ever seen John Tucker Must Die?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Can you do a few shows in Europe? I feel so left out, sweetie. Pussies, do I have news for you? I'm planning that right now. Really? Yeah, I am. Wow. See, it's like still in the baby stages, but we're getting dates and we're going to do London, Scotland. We're going to do UK, just like over the UK in general, Scotland and Ireland.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Okay. Okay, so my sister has been hiding her boyfriend from our family for over a year and we just found out she's been going on dates with other guys. What should we do? Do we accept it even though it's wrong?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Okay, let's address the first part. Your sister is hiding your boyfriend. What would you do if Hannah or Elle hid their boyfriend from you? Have they ever done that?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Or do you think there's also like this person should like look inward and like maybe there's a reason there. But clearly this girl is not a good person because she's going on dates with other people as well.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I think you need to have a conversation with your sister. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I got rejected from my dream uni and I stayed in my home country. Still in a good uni, but it's not the same. And all my best friends are in different countries. I'm adapting and making new friends, but I feel like it would have been better otherwise. Should I try again? Because I'm so genuinely tired, but I can't let go of my dream. In my opinion, I would try again.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I wouldn't let you being tired deter you from something you still want. But at the same time, If you apply and you end up loving your current situation, which very well could happen just because you're staying in the same place doesn't mean that you don't love the, you don't love your, you won't end up learning to love your situation at your end or loving it just naturally.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
But I would apply just so you have the option. It's always good to have an option.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
And you never know if you don't try. Yeah. You will never know. I agree. You don't want to live with that regret.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I prescribe normal people because they went to uni.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
It's really good. My boyfriend works with a girl we both went to college with. We weren't friends, and she continues to post him all over her Finsta and real Instagram. He feels weird telling her to put the camera away, and I don't want to be a mean girl and tell her to back the fuck off, but this has been happening for months. Months. Anyway, love you, Jake. XOXO. Love you, too.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
We use every single one of them. There's just a lot.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I don't think that's a mean girl thing to say. Like, I would freak out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Like, I don't want us to get in trouble for saying that, but yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Someone would be like, girls and boys can be friends.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
It's just, like, when a guy has a girlfriend, it's just, like, a different... It's just rules of... It's just...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
unspoken girl code like that obviously will make another woman uncomfortable exactly it obviously will like I'm sorry if it's rational I'm sorry if it's not rational I mean I'm sorry if it's not rational but it's just that's the thing it's just how it is I think it's just like when a girl gets a boyfriend and like even if that guy like has girlfriends like
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Like you don't have to apologize for something making you uncomfortable.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
So in the community I live in, everyone gets married by a 22 latest. Do you live in a cult? Like I'm asking respectfully. I'm asking respectfully.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I'm 19 and I've never had a boyfriend. Any advice for putting yourself out there? Also, I love your podcast. I love you too. You absolutely do not need to be getting married by 22. I understand like when you're in an environment where like that's the norm. Like how could you not view that as normal? But I'm 25 and I've never had a boyfriend and that should be the advice in and of itself.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
But it is hard to put myself out there. I completely understand where you're coming from.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Okay. This one's in Italian. Do any of you speak Italian? No. Let's see what that means, shall we? Hi, I wanted to know your price. Expensive. Expensive. All right.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
What a way to end. What did we learn today? Maybe I'm like therapizing myself now, but I really need to work on enjoying life despite the things I cannot control.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
It's really hard. And that's something I learned today while I was sitting talking with Brett and you guys.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
What did you learn? I also learned that I'm coming to your Chicago Marathon, which I already knew.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Okay, I've got it. I don't know why we didn't use the garage for storage to begin with.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I think I just blacked out. Speaking of, let's stop doing that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I'm, like, my brain's completely shot. But, like, this was the best. This was the best. I had such a good time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I'm really happy you're back. I love you. Love you so much.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I look back at how we lived in Orlando and I seriously wonder how we got out of bed.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I just, you guys like, you couldn't see the floor.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
That's what Manny was telling me. She's like, you don't have storage space.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
So like I have a million and one things just like piling up because I'm a collector. I'm a collector.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I don't want to throw anything away. Like I collect everything.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Because everything does have meaning. Like I can't say goodbye to things. I don't know what it is or why, but I'm sure there's a very reasonable explanation.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
The desk is like you open it and it falls off and you have to push it back in. And it's like, why don't I fix that? I don't know. But like that doesn't have meaning to me. That's just like pure laziness.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
But like a lot of stuff, like, yeah, there's like, like I just attach meaning to everything.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
But like everything in your room feels necessary. I will say.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Do you remember like how we were checking it every five seconds?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
And then you were the, what were the second most tracked?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
That was super fucking cool. Next to Casey Neistat and you were above Vinny from Jersey Shore. Like that's cool.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I'm also really hyper fixated on the fact that Phoebe Bridgers hasn't released an album in five years. And I've been listening to a lot of Phoebe Bridgers lately. What else has been on my mind? You guys watching Severance? Are you watching Severance, Louise?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
And the next one you're going to do is Chicago. And that is.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
So we'll all be there for that. Cause like now I have enough.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I promise. But now that I know how touring works, I didn't know how touring worked. I thought I like I thought I couldn't say no to dates.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I thought like everything was booked out and I couldn't say no to dates. I like now I've learned that like I can move stuff around.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
But there is nothing over October 10th. Like I'm saying it right now. Like I won't do a show that day. Like I am having that day free and I'm coming to the marathon.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
It's your hometown marathon. It's your hometown marathon. Like I do have to go.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
But that was in L.A., so, like... Yeah. It was, like, I better have been good.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
No, but just, like, the marathon of it all. Also, like, waking up and, like... I guess I didn't sleep, actually.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
It was a really crazy time. I would say my favorite memory from that time is all we do reminisce.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Yeah, that was a really, really, really good memory.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
But, like, you did, like, Brett brought up a very good point today. Like, she made so much goddamn fucking money off that tour that, like, she will do something of, like, maybe not the same stature, but a similar stature, hopefully.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I think she's going to do like three to four or like three. I'm going to say two to three albums.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
She's always going to like dedicate an era of that tour to the Bad Bloods, the Shake It Offs. Love Story. Love Story.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
And like she's going to do, she now is going to do Cruel Summer at every show, which is like very good news for you. And like the surprise songs aren't going away.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I think I'm very upset that I never got to see TTPD.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
No, Brad takes things very personally, especially when it comes to Taylor Swift.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
And it was like, what? The Zurich shows were super low energy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
You also got offended when you weren't a verified fan on Ticketmaster. Like legitimately offended. Like it was like a point of contention in the house. Like me and Julia got verified fans just because it was a fucking robot picking it. I didn't know it was a bot. And Brett was like, so weird that I didn't get it. Oh, like we were like, it's a bot. She was like, must be.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Yeah, you can't scroll and watch Severance. Anywho, what else has been on my mind? Oh, I've been really debating. I know this sounds crazy because I've been in a... What?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
But we got the tickets and that's what's mattered.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Do you know what I regret, actually? If I have, like, one Eros tour regret.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Oh, I knew there was a reason we didn't do that one.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Okay, well, everything happens for a reason because now you're like a thawning queen.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
You should do a TikTok of all videos of a bunch of you, different clips of you running in all three marathons to dancing through life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Yeah, I think it would go super viral and the caption should say running through life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Yes, I think it would go super viral and then like end it with you like finishing it as well.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
But thank God that like, it just made you work that much harder. And it made you do hill training, which you never thought to do before. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Yeah, exactly. And it is true. Like LA went so picture perfect just because it was like, February, it was freezing cold out. It was freezing cold. It was like 5 a.m.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
You know the L.A. streets. You knew where you were running through. Like it just worked.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
But next Chicago. And then what's after Chicago? Tokyo?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
No, I don't. I hate baths. Fun fact about me. I hate baths. But I've been really debating a New York move. I don't know. I've really been thinking. I mean, I would definitely. I've really been thinking about it. Connor Wood inspired me. He really did inspire me. And I am really thinking that maybe I want to do 26 in New York. So that's what's been on my mind, honestly.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
I know what you'd be up to if you were not thought in.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 55: Brett’s Back
Like dad said on it too. And you were like, I don't, I was like, Brett, I don't. No, actually, I think I was like, do it, girl.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
called to let it all hang well i used to kind of like let it all hang and look like i am like very very very this is like on a much smaller scale but like i i get very scared of things disappearing and going away and i get scared of fucking fucking it up and like saying something stupid where i used to and it's funny because i feel like maybe that's why people initially like
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Genau, deine Verletzungen, das ist, warum Leute mit dir auftreten, weißt du? Und dann ist es so, dass du Angst hast, warum Leute mit dir auftreten, weil du Angst hast, dass es dich fast entfernen wird. Weißt du, was ich meine? Ja, sicher. Und ich denke, ich muss vielleicht bis zu dem Punkt kommen, wo du sagst, was ist das Schlimmste, was passieren könnte?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Weil ich jetzt denke, ich will nicht wissen, wie schlimm das passieren könnte. Weißt du, was ich meine? Nein, sicher. Ich fühle dich.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Ja, aber ist es so? Fühlst du dich, als wäre es Solar Power, wenn du aus dieser Armut ein bisschen rauskommst, in die Natur und fühlst alles. Und dann ist Virgin, als würdest du zurück in die Wasser.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Ich liebe dich. Ich liebe dich wirklich. Ich bin so gespannt auf dein neues Album. Danke. Wie lange hast du es gemacht? Wie lange hat es gedauert?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
But I think what's so beautiful about your music is all of your work is... your vibe at the time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
That's beautiful, Jack. It's true. It's true. Solar power is like... It's very true. Solar power... I find myself, when I listen to music at the age where you wrote the music, I relate to it so much heavier. When I listen to Melodrama, it's like 21, 22, 19. When I listen to it, I was like... I feel this. When I listen to Solar Power today, I'm like, I don't want to fucking go out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Oh yes, yes, yes. And we have the Taylor there and all the fake diplomas.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
I want to get high and go to the nail salon. I don't smoke anymore, but I used to do that all the time and listen to Stoned at the nail salon. I think that's what's really beautiful. I think that's honestly what makes your music timeless. In my eyes, it really is like this kind of universal diary. You spoke about...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
feeling these things and not having it, being able to hear it in your ear, because no one else spoke about it, but I think you speak about it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
No, please, I can tell you about anything you want to know about.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
get you there you know i i would send i would text my friend julia i'd say sorry and then she'd say why and then i'd send like all the lyrics super good and then she'd be like cool like you're so sweet sorry i honestly like this is very moving for me because i actually like um really struggle with like
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Wie hast du dich mit dem Lied befasst? Was ist das Lied? Ich versuche es herauszufinden. Ist das wie ein iPad in der Brust?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Yeah, I had no idea I thought it was an iPad. And I thought it was like this like saying of like technology and like I thought it was this whole thing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Waren da irgendwelche Alt-Cover, mit denen du gehen würdest? Oder hast du nur einen genommen und gesagt, das ist es?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
And then did you like have any other like title names for the album besides Virgin or was it just like?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
When you came up with Pure Heroine, Melodrama, did those names come to you immediately? And it was like, this is it?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Ich bin chill. Wie viele Songs hast du für das Album gedreht?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Und war es so, als hättest du, als hättest du, als hättest du, als hättest du, als hättest du, als
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Und ich kann mich nicht erinnern, dass ich ihn mit dem ersten Namen genannt habe, aber egal. Es ist Jimmy Stack, oder? Ja, also in meinem Kopf war ich so, was, wenn das nicht sein letzter Name ist?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Es ist großartig, ich liebe es. Aber wie habt ihr euch getroffen? Wie kamen ihr zusammen?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
What did he think of the... Sorry, did I just interrupt you? No, not at all. What did he think of the Washington... How did you come up with the Washington Square Park idea?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
I was literally walking there and then it got shut down for a second. So I was like, okay, I guess I'll just go to dinner. And then I checked my phone and I was like, cool. So she went back.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
I went to... Where did I go to dinner? I went to this Sartianos. It was like this Italian place. What's your favorite restaurant in the city?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Okay, also ich habe es noch nie gehört, also wir werden das rausblicken, um es für dich zu retten.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Ähm, ja, ich war einfach da. Ich liebe es, aber growing up there für mich ist so anders als meine Erfahrung mit es jetzt. Ich weiß nicht, ob du dich in der gleichen Weise fühlst wie in Neuseeland. Aber ich habe es gehofft, growing up. Ich habe es gehofft, weil ich es gehofft habe, wie ich war. Ich habe es gehofft.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
I was so uncomfortable in my own skin, I, like, didn't go out, like, I, like, well, I wanted to go out, it wasn't that I didn't want to go out, it was, like, it was just, like, to grow up in New York, it's, like, I looked like a baby, so my fake ID didn't work, and then, like, I did, so, like, these places would be, like, I'd go with all my girlfriends, and they'd be, like, yeah, you need to go home, and I, so I was, like, I hate this city, I hate this city, and then, now, when I go back, I have the best time, like, I go on dates, and I see people, I actually find, like, dating and romance to be, like,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Ja, genau. And I also feel like I'm that type of person. I don't know if you also feel this way, but it's like I hate wherever I'm at in the moment. And I romanticize everywhere else. You know what I mean? So when I'm in New York, I'm like, I miss L.A. And when I'm in L.A., I'm like, I miss New York. It'll always be there. You can pop back. Okay, I have a question.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
And it's been eating me alive for years. Is Melodrama a concept album in the sense that It takes place over one house party.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
When I told my best friend, I was like, so melodrama takes place over one house party. She dropped her phone. She said, okay. Ich erinnere mich, oh Gott, es ist so verrückt, dass du sagst, dass du manchmal fühlst, als hättest du keinen Einfluss, weil deine Musik ist eine der meisten Musik, die ich erinnere, genau wo ich war.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Es war während Covid und mein bester Freund hat nie die perfekten Plätze gehört und sie war im Kühlschrank und ich sitze auf dem Kühlschrank und ich habe es aufgenommen und sie hat die Tür geöffnet und sie hat gesagt, was ist das? Und ich habe gesagt, It's perfect places. It's one of my favorite moments of my entire life. I just share so much of that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
I'm sorry, I feel like it's just me regurgitating how much I love your stuff. It's so beautiful. I don't know when else I'm going to be able to do this, so I just have to do it now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
This episode of Therapist is brought to you by Booking.com. Booking.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Once again, I am so grateful that Booking.com is the sponsor for this episode, because once again, we used it. We are going to Denver tomorrow. We have nowhere to stay. And Matt once again pulled up Booking.com, typed in what we needed, whether that be walking distance, whether that be a terrace, whether that be... Ja, genau. You can also book vacation rentals. You can book car rentals.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Like anything you need to make the vacation as full and as complete as possible, booking.com has. Obviously also we're booking for like six different people on my crew. So it's so easy to find an accommodation that works for everybody. Because like booking for a lot of people can be really difficult. Especially when you're just going through the hotel website or like looking up individual hotels.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
So going on booking.com and being able to like kind of search everything all at once for what you need. It's just, it couldn't be more helpful for our tour. If I can find my perfect stay on booking.com, anyone can. Find exactly what you're booking for on booking.com. Booking. Yeah! Book today on the site or in the app. What are you therapist about today?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Modern medicine. I know. It'll probably take them forever to do it as well.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Wie hast du das gelernt? Ich glaube, ich höre nicht zu meinem Körper.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
I have this gut feeling and I'm like, is that a gut feeling or is that anxiety? I can't tell, but hopefully when I'm able to help distinguish it, but have you ever found yourself in a situation where you're like, I can't tell which one it is?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Richtig. Und dann ist das so, wie die Name Virgin kommt, weil es so ist, wie all die Erwartungen, um zu der ersten Zeit zu kommen und dann machst du es und dann beginnt alles zu fliegen nach dem.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Do you like your later 20s? Are you liking your later 20s more than your middle or earlier 20s?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Sex ist gut. Es klickt alles zusammen. Ich bin wirklich aufgeregt. Ich bin nie aufgeregt, älter zu werden.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Du wirst es in drei Jahren wieder machen. Okay. Wenn du das gesagt hast, ich schaue mir alte Fotos von mir aus der Hochschule an. Ich dachte, ich war der dreckigste Arschloch in der Wohnung. Und es ist so... I wanna like hit myself. It's like, why did I think that?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
So it's like, I'm really trying to work on like, I really try to remind myself in the moment, like especially when I go on dates and stuff, it's like, in two years you're gonna be like, you were hot.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
So just feel it now, as opposed to like, I was actually thinking about it literally this morning and I was like, because I wasn't like a very sexual person for like my entire high school and then I was like, and then I was like thinking about my freshman year of college and
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
How I like... It's like when you don't like view yourself as sexual or you don't even like view yourself as hot, like no one else around you is gonna... It's like such an energy thing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Do you talk about this all the time? No, like, so basically what happened was, I lost my virginity when I, I'm really just going into it, but like.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
No, no, are you down for me to tell you this story? Go, go, of course. Okay, so like, I lost my virginity when I was 21, and like, it was with a much older guy, and we like, didn't use protection.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
And then so like, for the next two years after that, I had like, this like,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
crazy internal panic that I had like all these diseases and then like I finally like got like tested for diseases and they were like yeah you're good like you're good and then like I had sex one more time and then I was like no no no no and then I just haven't really had sex since that so I think I've only had sex twice and it's like but I'm trying to like get myself back out there and then it's like once I started doing this I started feeling like
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
I like to make everyone laugh but then by like making a fool of myself but then I have this like juxtaposition where I'm like is everybody making fun of me and then it's very hard to separate in the bedroom and it's very hard to separate like romantically so like I don't know if like I don't know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
It's probably so different for you because you write music and stuff, but because people are laughing at, because my goal of the day is to make somebody laugh, it's hard to separate romantically. So I think that's maybe why I haven't had sex.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Nein. Nein, nein, es ist wie bei vielen meiner Videos, wo ich meinen Körper bewege. Wenn ich meinen Podcast auf der Straße mache, mache ich Spaß auf alte Fotos von mir, in denen ich schlecht sehe.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Ich bin Angst, dass sie mich lachen, wie mein Körper, ja.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
and you must have so many people hitting you up right i have one right now wait are you kissing i recently i am so that's why i feel like a lot of kissing i feel like i feel like a tad lighter do i it's because i'm like okay maybe catching a dick here and there but like not like in the not yeah you know but like yeah but like everything else and like i i'm trying to talk to people i'm trying to
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
In there, you know? Yeah. Just like, take your time. Yeah. Oh my God. It's gonna be great. Like, I feel. Well, I feel like this summer, I have a good feeling about it, hopefully. It is, it is a Lord Summer.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
And I, I feel like, last summer was Brat Summer, so last summer, like, I was like partying and getting myself out there. And now it's Lord Summer, where I'm gonna like, party, but like, Really like feel into like my thoughts and emotions and myself and like yearn and like feel everything.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Yes, I want it. I want to like jump down the streets of New York to Virgin and like... It's perfect. It's right. It's gonna happen. What do you listen to? Like what is the music you listen to? And what do you watch? I am so curious.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Sie ist auch so ein Performer. Insane. Sie ist so aufregend.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Du würdest sie lieben. Sie ist das Kindeste, das Schlimmste. Sie ist die beste Person jemals. Und sie ist ein sehr, sehr großer Fan von dir.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
TV, what's on? What's your vibe of a TV show? Because I can put you on in a certain direction, if you're looking for it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
I didn't watch Severance, which maybe I would be into. You would, but I have a show for you that I think you would love. Talk to me. Are you fine if it's foreign? And like subtitles? I was like, no. Yeah, I know, I know. It's German. It's called Dark. Oh, okay. And it's... Okay, so basically all you need to know is that a boy goes missing in a small German town.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
It is the most beautifully shot, beautifully told story I've ever seen in my entire life. I know you will love it. Wow, Doc. Okay, sick. It's about time and love. I know I'm being very broad, but I just don't want to give too much away. It is really so amazing and it feels like Wenn ich mich daran erinnere, kann ich deine Musik sehen. Wow, okay, ich werde das sehen.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Wow, welche Saison schaust du? Ich bin mit der ersten Saison fertig, also sind sie in den Regionals. Ich bin so gespannt. So süß. Und ich bin wirklich überrascht, also schaue ich wieder Glee. Ich habe gerade Overcompensating geschaut.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Oh, it's amazing, it's amazing. They have a great scene where they, I think it's team.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Yeah, it's amazing, it's amazing. And then, God, what else am I watching? Yeah, I'm watching Glee, I'm watching, what else am I watching, Louise? Oh, I just watched The Leftovers, which was beautiful.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
You've seen The Leftovers? It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
What do you think about the ending when she's like... Do you watch the whole thing? I watch the whole thing. Do you remember the end where she's like... Yes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Oh my god, I can't believe you've seen The Leftovers. That's awesome as fuck. Very cool. Do you want to get into the tell me what's wrongs? Yes, yes. Okay, so the tell me what's wrongs are the pussies write in and they tell us what's wrong essentially and we give them advice. For example, and we prescribe them things. If someone was like, I keep wanting to go back to this guy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
It was so bad, but I can't. I'm having trouble remembering the bad. Oh my God. I prescribe Supercut.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
A book, whatever. Okay, I'm ready. I want to be a singer so badly and I know that it's what I'm meant to do. I just can't seem to put myself out there as I have massive stage fright. All I want to do is share my music with the world, but I'm literally my own barrier. What do I do? Wie war es für dich, zuerst diesen Stagesturm zu überwachen?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Wartest du, wartest du Angst, deine Musik auszulösen, als du jünger warst? Oder warst du zu jung, um den Fakt, dass es eine furchtbare Sache war, zu erinnern?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Ich würde verskriben... Beta-Blocker. Literal verskriben. Weißt du, ich habe noch nie einen Beta-Blocker genommen. Oh.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
I kind of also prescribe, like, I know, like, like, okay, so I always describe, like, doing something scary. No, no, no, no, I'm about to do what you just did. A cooking show? No, you can do, no, you can prescribe anything. I'm gonna, like, prescribe jumping into cold water, because when you, because I always describe, like, Das ist perfekt. Ja. Liebe. I think my boyfriend is holding me back.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
We've been dating for three years and moved across the country together. And now we've been living together for the past seven months. But there's part of me that is yearning for more self-exploration without a partner. Help.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
I was like, how do I play this chill? I literally remember when Pure Heroine came out. You know when you just remember certain moments of listening to a song or an album and exactly what you were doing. I remember tying my shoes in my foyer of my apartment and listening to Team for the first time. I remember getting into a fight with my best friend at the time and listening to 400 Lux.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
What's inspo about being single? Well, actually, the movie Someone Great, which I always prescribe, but I really think it's a really good movie because she was being held back by her partner. And that's actually the movie where I really fell in love with Supercut.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Ja, sie wird gehalten. Das ist mein Lieblingsfilm aller Zeiten.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Oh mein Gott, ich auch. Es ist ein unglaublicher Film. Was denkst du über das Ende? Was meinst du? Wie, wenn sie den Job verlässt. I'm always like, I want her to stay and be like Miranda.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Still like fashion. Yeah, yeah. Oh, God, I love that movie.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
He really is. And he gets mad at her for missing his birthday. Yes. Which is like valid, but like she was like, yes, iconic. Was ist die Psychologie dahinter?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
No, it's good advice. It's advice that I've never done and I probably should have.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
I'm clearly in a real like, fuck it mode. No way, I'm obsessed. But that's because I feel like that's like the late 20s vibe. You know what I mean? It's like, whatever. Are you going through your Saturn return right now?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Erinnerst du dich an einen Moment, an dem du endlich gesagt hast, dass du aus diesem schlechten Zeitpunkt rausgekommen bist?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
And then I remember melodrama coming out. And I'm just like, I'm so crazy that you're here. I'm sorry. I'm freaking out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Did you feel, because I think I might have seen you say somewhere that when you did the Girl So Confusing Remix with Charli, that was this really cathartic release that kind of led you into finishing this album.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
I think people were like so like people so admired how you like you like received the feedback and like validated the feedback and then was like, but this is like why I was the way I was. I think it like was like so healing for like everybody. It was like, it was healing for me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Es ist so fucking perfekt. Es ist großartig. Wie hast du das... Du hast den Song in einem Voice-Memo bekommen.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Und dann hast du... Hast du sie angerufen und gesagt, das ist so, wie ich mich fühle? Oder hast du sie einfach zurückgegeben?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
A year and a half. A year? That's insane. I know. I know. A year and a half.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
It's one of those. That's beautiful. So cool. Do you have a favorite lyric in that verse?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
That's like a bar. I heard that and I was like, Weißt du, was ich meine? Ja. Ich mag das Meme, das ich gesehen habe.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
1999. Jesus. So I like to say I'm like a 90s kid, but I'm not. Right, right, right. 99 is cool. I like that. Right? It's like right before 2000, but I'm a Scorpio and you're a Scorpio as well, right? Yeah, same, same, same, same. I mean, I remember, it's so funny that you wrote What Was That? and then it ended up becoming the first single.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Ja, ich brauche es, das zu sehen. Ich dachte, ist die Bombe los? Warst du nervös, das rauszuholen?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Was war deins? Mein Bratsommer? Ich war... Ich war viel partieren. Okay, fab. Ich war reisen, ich war partieren. I was like, I was like, just like, like, you know, like I felt like very free to like experiment. It was like my summer of yes. It was like my summer of like, oh, I'm going to say yes to this. I'm going to say yes to this. So cool.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
And then I want to take, and then what I was saying was like, I want to take that from this, that summer, bring it to this summer.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Das Album wird dir helfen. Ich bin so begeistert. Ich liebe das Gefühl, dass ich nicht warten kann. Ich kann nicht warten.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Ich weiß nicht, was ich tun soll. Aber es kommt raus. Es ist so kismisch und perfekt. Es kommt raus. Ich mache Radio City. Oh mein Gott, das ist unglaublich. on the day this album comes out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
And so I'm gonna listen to it like all day. I already know I'm gonna wake the fuck up just blasting it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Yes, I live, I'll show you after. My room is right there and then all the girls live in the main house.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
It's great. It's hard when I don't feel like I did a good job. Oh yeah. Like, you know, I mean like, it's just like, And sometimes if I can't fill a room completely, I'll look at an empty seat. Or if I see somebody leave a little early. Totally, I get it. I've left early before too, but it's moments like that where it feels like a shot. It's like, oh my god.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
You're essentially dancing on stage for everybody to look at and laugh or enjoy and feel. If you feel in that moment that you're not entertaining someone, it's like, So it's like I have like the highest highs and then I have like really low lows. How is touring for you? Do you like touring?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Did you know when you wrote that, you were like, this is 100% on the album and this is going to be the first single?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
This is my second tour. So I toured for the first time this past fall. Okay. And now I'm doing the second tour and I'm a lot better at it than I was the first round. I'm a lot more comfortable sharing parts of my life. I'm a lot more comfortable talking to the audience. I'm a lot... Ich bin auf der Bühne viel komfortabler. Ich habe keine Angst mehr.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Aber ich habe diese Momente, wenn ich einen leeren Sitz sehe. Ich denke immer, oh mein Gott, denkt jeder, wie der Sitz leert. Hast du das jemals gemacht?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
It's just like, and melodrama is such... wie ein wohnungsvolles Album, also weißt du, wie du siehst, wie du siehst, wie du siehst, wie du siehst, We scaled it. So like, yeah. And I'm like, what does that mean? And then I'll look up and it's like, they blacked out the seeds. Yeah, the little drape.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Ich möchte, dass du einen meiner Shows sehen kannst, wenn du noch da bist. Ich möchte auch. Ich liebe es, zu lachen. Ich glaube, du wirst lachen. Ich spreche viel über meine Kindheit. Es ist lustig. Was freut dich am meisten an deiner Tour?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Do you have your own sheets? Yeah, yeah. Okay, good. Do you use the shower? I used it once. And I used it once in the shower, like, spurted in my face, like, across my entire, everything in my room. And I was like, I can't do that again. I use the showers at the venues all the time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Wenn es eine gute Show ist, bist du so aufgewacht. Wie bringst du es runter? Ich nehme Advo-PM.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Dann schlafe ich. Das ist der einzige Weg. Das ist hart. Ich fühle das. How do you calm down after?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Did you ever go through a period with smoking weed where you didn't smoke for a while?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Oh, so the album doesn't sound a lot like, what was that?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Und du hast es an dem Tag in Washington Square Park gedreht, oder?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Das ist verrückt. Das ist unglaublich. Oh mein Gott. Ich versuche zu denken, ich bin so... Was haben wir für mich? Ich weiß, ich fühle mich... Ich wusste, dass das zu mir passieren würde, wo ich... I feel like I've known you my whole life and then I have all these things I want to say and then you're right here and now it's like... You're killing it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Really? Yes, of course. Are you guys having fun? Okay, cool. Because I'm going to freak out about this for the next two weeks. So, respectfully, I'm going to be like, was this fine? I'm honestly curious, do you ever go back and listen to your old work and think, I wish I could tell this version of me like this?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Like if you ever listened to Pure Heroine and you're like, I wish at the time the Lord then knew this, that I know now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Weißt du? Ich weiß nicht. Und du hast gesagt, als du das gemacht hast, warst du so... Du hast nichts geschrieben vorher, du bist einfach reingegangen und hast es gemacht?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
It really is a public journal. Do you have a favorite memory over these past however many years in the studio? It reminded me when I watched that video of you getting the drums right. What was that? Do you have any other moments like that where you... Remember feeling like this explosion of like, we did it. We just did that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Well, Lord, well, do I call you Ella? Ella, yeah. Okay, okay. Because I was meaning to ask that the entire time and now I'm just, Ella, thank you so much for being here and doing this with me. I cannot tell you how grateful I am. Before I let you go, what did we learn today?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
If I can get your number after this, I'm gonna text you every time I hook up with someone. Great, great. Just letting you know. Any excuse to text you. I think I learned... Gott, nein, ich hatte es gerade und jetzt habe ich nur geblinkt, weil ich glaube, ich bin aufgeregt, deine Nummer zu bekommen. Aber ich denke, ich habe gelernt, ich habe gelernt, auf deinem Körper zu hören.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Ich habe gelernt, dass es wichtig ist, auf deinem Körper zu hören. Ähm, na, Ella, danke, dass du auf Therapus gekommen bist. Ich liebe dich. Ich bin so ein großer Fan. Und das ist das Coolste, was mir je passiert ist.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Okay, I need to calm down. I need to calm down. I need to calm down. Do you have a favorite song on the album?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
I know. And they're all like sitting in their room like this right now that you're here.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Das ist so krass. Wie ist es, dieses Album anders zu machen, als wenn du Solo-Power, Melodrama, Pure Heroine oder The Love Club ausmachst?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
So you're not from L.A.? No, well, I was born in L.A. and then I was raised in New York.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Do you remember a song on the album that was specifically really difficult to write? And you were like, oh. But then when you did it, you felt this release, maybe?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
So I was raised in Washington Heights in New York. Yes. And then I moved to Los Angeles for college. Okay.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
I just love L.A. But I'm like, why don't I live in Los Feliz? Because as we met the other night, I was like, I feel like everyone's in Los Feliz these days. And I actually used to live in Los Feliz when I was a little kid.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Weil du so lange geschrieben und performt hast und deine Musik immer so gefährlich ist, fühlst du dich, als du weiterhin kreierst und weiterhin in deiner Karriere bist und du weiterhin öffentlichen Raum besitzt, wird es schwieriger, gefährlich zu sein, als du weiterhin dich als dich selbst siehst?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Es ist lustig, das am Sonntag zu tun. Ich weiß. Ich habe alle angerufen und gesagt, das ist ein 9-1-1. Lorde kommt am Sonntag. Ich bin müde darüber. Verlöse deine Pläne.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 76: Lorde
Well, it's almost like when like the armor rusts, you're like scared to take it off because you don't know if you're going to be able to get it back on. Totally. All of this. Like,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 47: Matt Rogers
You love it. That's the thing about, it's too good.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 47: Matt Rogers
Like, I'm like, so, because you don't cry, how do you express emotion? If you eat a hard-boiled egg in front of me, die!
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 47: Matt Rogers
What are you going through? Wait, can I say something? I was thinking how much I hate this. I hate this. Throw it, please. I hate it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 47: Matt Rogers
There we are again in the middle of the night. Dancing around the kitchen in the refrigerator light.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Hi pussies and welcome back to Therapus. I am finally back from tour. I slept almost, I slept 19 hours the day I got back. So I definitely needed the rest. I was exhausted, but that was just the first leg of Live with Jake Shane. We start the second leg May 16th. I am really, really, really excited. But yeah, I definitely missed my bed and I missed my roommates and everyone here.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
How do you switch your mindset from... Remind me, sorry, I watched Opsic when it came out. What was your character's name in it again? Betsy. Betsy. How were you episode one Betsy and then episode eight Betsy in the same day? Because as for those who don't know, the character takes a very intense journey throughout the show.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
And to submit a tell me what's wrong, go to pastthatpuss.com, click tell me what's wrong and tell me what's wrong. Submit a name and number if you're feeling fancy. Enjoy the episode. I love you pussies. Hi, pussies. Welcome back to Therapist. Today, we have one of my favorite actresses. I fell in love with her in Booksmart and Dopesick, but I recently got to see her shine in Apple Cider Vinegar.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Okay, no. And I feel like that's crazy of me because I feel like everybody's seen Jack Frost.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
when you like are on a show that has like a more somber or a movie that has like a more somber tone, like is the, like, Oh my God, I'm going to fuck this word up again. What's it? What is it?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
The subsequent. Good job. Thank you. I said subsequent in front of a really big group of people the other day. That doesn't sound right. And I said it. That sounds a little inappropriate. And I heard Louise go subsequent. And I was like. And then I, it was just, it was super embarrassing. And then it was on the Hollywood Reporter.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Well, like, me saying subsequently wasn't the headline. But, like, that was involved in the video. So, I said subsequently. But subsequent.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
We are trying. Some, me hard, I try very hard in a lot of, I don't know why I said that. I'm sorry.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
How long have you been acting for? It's like the first time I've done a podcast. I feel like I've done a podcast.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
She has also recently announced that she is going to be in the new season of The Last of Us. And I think this is announced, right? That you're in the new Godzilla?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Isn't Texas the size of... You moved to Dallas from Arizona.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
It is announced? Great. And she's also in the new Godzilla. Welcome, Caitlin Dever.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
And was that because you were like I want to act or was it just like an afternoon activity that your parents were like.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
I bought them for, I know. I bought them for tour last year and I wear them every single day. The best thing is when you purchase something and like, you're like, I really hope this is worth it because it's expensive and you end up using it every single day.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
I'd rather not be disappointed. Yeah. You know, I'd rather not. I always loved that style of parenting. I do. It really was great for me. Like I constantly assumed the worst.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Oh, okay. Because you have to think about that as an actor, right? You're like, they could literally cut me on the cutting room floor. Yeah. That's crazy. Yes. Even after you're announced and stuff, they could be like, oh, we don't like this and cut the scenes. Yes. That's crazy. Has that ever happened to you?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Was there one no in particular that was like the most devastating?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
I don't have that, but I know that that is healthy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
So it's just like, well, everything happens for a reason.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Well, you wouldn't have known Haley had you probably, right? Cause that was her, that was her break.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
I love sliding doors. I think I spoke about it here the other day. Did I? Did I? I did.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Wow. I just love your outfit. I love your outfit.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Well, I don't normally like look like this. I just, I put it on for something and then I like looked in the mirror and I was like, I guess I'll just keep this on.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
I'm, like, all right. I got to be done. Wait, what was I going to say? Was there a moment when you were auditioning where you got something and you were, like, like, what was your, like, moment where you were, like, okay, like, I made it and I, this is my job and, like, I made, I'm successful at my job?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
This episode of Therapist is brought to you by Booking.com. Booking.yeah! Okay, so as you guys know, I am now... Can you do that again? You peaked the microphone. What does that mean? It means it was just a little too loud. Oh, okay. This episode of Therapist is brought to you by Booking.com. Booking.yeah!
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Okay, so you guys, I am finally home in Los Angeles, but I would not be here if it wasn't for booking.com. I swear to God. For my last show in Indiana, I know I needed to stay at an airport hotel because our flight was at seven in the morning. So I went to booking.com and I looked up hotels near the airport. It was easy. The hotel had a shuttle that could take us to the airport.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Or we could call a car if we needed it. But regardless, it was literally so close to the airport and it got me there to my flight early in the morning. Once again, we obviously didn't have the hotel booked until the day before. So we went – I mean we just don't need to at this, right? Because we go on booking.com. We type in what we need and there's always something. We type in our criteria.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
So whether we want a terrace, whether we want a bath, a shower, like what we need and it will show us exactly what we want. Obviously, you know, for me, walking distance to everything is super important because I don't drive. Booking.com really, really saved us this tour. Like we would literally show up in a city and be like, where are we staying? Booking.com, this is what we need.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
We want to be close to the venue or we want to be close to the street with all the restaurants. We want to be able to walk to them and it would just show us a list of hotels and And we would click one and book it. You can also book vacation rentals. You can book cars if you drive. You really can plan out the perfect trip on Booking.com. I really, truly would not have survived tour without it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Find exactly what you're booking for at Booking.com. Booking. Yeah! I love online dating, okay? I love online dating and I love Tinder. But, okay, we... We've all been there when we match with someone and it's not like a normal match. It's like, oh my God, like I think I've just matched with the love of my life. Like obviously he's the hottest person ever. I'm freaking out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
I don't know what to do. And you actually start to like, it's like you're at a bar, like you don't know what to say to them. You don't, and you ask all your friends and they don't know what to say. and everyone's giving you a different answer and you just don't know what to do. Well, Tinder gets it. That's why they dropped the AI powered feature, the game game.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
And it drops you into unexpected flirtatious scenarios to see how you would react. And you essentially talk with this AI like you are speaking to a potential suitor and you go back and forth with it to practice your answers. You'll face like different flirty situations and drop your best like responses and the AI will rate your game essentially.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
And not in a brutal way, this is all about fun, low-pressure practice, okay? It's kind of like making out with your pillow to practice how to kiss someone, except you're talking to an AI to practice sliding into someone's message on Tinder. It basically is just giving you a chance to see what works, tweak your approach, and level up your flirting skills, which I definitely need.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
I'm the worst flirter in the world. And this isn't, like, just a normal, like, AI where you're chatting response. Like, it's a game. Like, it gamifies flirting, so it's like you're playing a game and... It makes it more fun and enjoyable and it gives you like an end goal. Try it now on Tinder and see if you actually got game or need a little help. It starts with a swipe. Download Tinder today.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
And thank you, Tinder, for sponsoring tonight's episode. Oh, my God. That was my question before I couldn't figure out how to say subsequent. Subsequent.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
When the material of the show is so heavy, does that, like, affect the set around it? Or is, like, do people do, like, a good job at, like, kind of separating?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Yeah, it was a big deal. I remember watching that and like that show. I mean, I always I knew about the opioid epidemic, but I that show was very like for me, it was very educational on like how it went down and like what happened and how unjust the whole thing was. So I just me and my me and my roommates love that show. Like we really we really I think that came out our scene 2022, right? Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Yeah. Are you allowed to talk about this? You're in The Last of Us.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
What was that experience like? I loved the first season.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Right. I feel like that TV show gave the game. I mean, I feel like the game, I feel like fans of the game would say that it had so much depth already, but like, like I really feel like that show gave it a lot of depth, especially in the, you know, did you watch the first season?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Again, I watched this a while ago, but it was the two guys, I forgot their names, but they were living together.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
And where, and you're about to film Godzilla as well, the sequel to, a sequel to Godzilla.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Do you, um, what, what are you watching on TV right now?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
You know, I still haven't seen that. Oh my God. I know. And apparently it's amazing and everyone loves it so much.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
I feel like for the first time and, Like, years. I feel like we're in, like, this binge culture now, especially with how Netflix rolls out shows and they do it all at once. Yeah. I feel like for the first time in years, I'm actually doing, like, weekly – I'm, like, waiting weekly for episodes because White Lotus is out now. Oh, fun. And then there's a show called Paradise on Hulu that's, like –
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Yeah, I think it's fun to watch. And then what else is out there right now that I'm also watching? Oh, Severance. Do you watch Severance? I never watch Severance. You have to watch Severance. It really is, like, that good. I watched it. I think it came out the same year Dope's hit came out. So I remember those being my two main shows of that year that I was, like, really, really into.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
But I think you would really like it. What else are you watching besides Nobody Wants Us?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
wait, so how did you prepare for the role? If not like looking at her mannerisms and all of that, because you kind of nailed her.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
yeah and clara did i already say clara sabrina carpenter just the girls yeah yeah i'm really i'm really in a pop phase right now me too i'm in a pop phase and i'm listening to like a lot of old like bonnie vera and stuff oh fun which is like kind of random for me but i am like is this like a new journey with no it was it's i was listening to like what his first album was for emma forever ago right yes i was i just was like i used to listen to that a lot in college and then like
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
I don't know what happened, but I think I was super hungover and rediscovered it while I was hungover. And it just makes me feel like the main character in my show, you know?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Actually, yes. I remember seeing him perform on some TV thing. It was definitely SNL.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
You know, I'm honestly not angry about much today. I feel like I've been in a great mood. Do you disagree?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
I was watching, what was I watching this morning? I was watching the new White Lotus. Do you watch White Lotus?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Oh, you saw both. Because I thought, because everyone thinks it's so weird that I never saw the second season. I just like gave up on it. But they played the second season's theme song at like the music festival I was at this weekend. And I, it was so.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
It was so awesome. Like it was just like, oh my God, it was the most fun ever. So I guess I'm pretty therapy pleased today.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Did your sister tell you about the tell me what's wrongs?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Okay. So the pussy's right in and they tell us what's wrong and we like prescribe them a remedy. So like that can be Anything. Like a show, a song, the McGee YouTube special.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
My best friend has ADHD, has been overstimulating me so much recently, but when I tell her she is stressing me out, she gets mad help. I, like, don't know how to help you there, honestly. Not to be... I'm sorry, like... Is that a, like...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
But you're doing the right things. You're being transparent and honest and telling your friend she's pissing you off.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
And you're like acknowledging your feelings. Like there's not. That's like a your friend problem, not a you problem.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
I oversimulate my friends all the time. And they're like, stop. And I'll stop. Or they oversimulate me. And I'll be like, stop. And they stop.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
But you know what the conjugated one of that is? Pop, protect our peace.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
That's what me and my friend Peyton came up with recently. We're popping. We're popping. So like we need to pop or a pimp plug in my phone.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
No, I know. I know. I start to speed up during this round because I get really excited.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
I'm having a problem in college that every time I get high, I get the serious ick from my friends. That is horrible.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
They're new friends because I've only been in college for three months, but it literally makes me not want to be friends with them because I get such bad second embarrassment. Secondhand embarrassment, my friend. Sorry, that was so mean. What do I do to stop it, but I'm not willing to stop smoking? Well, I would say, I don't, do you smoke ever?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
I quit. I used to do it, like back in the day, like I probably would have been high for this podcast.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Oh, I was able to, like, work out. Like, I could have done anything high.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Also, like, sometimes the pussies, like, do leave out details for us. Like, there's crucial details. Like, why are you getting secondhand embarrassment from your friends while you're high? Like, maybe they're not, like, acting. They don't like the way they're acting while they're high. But I will say also, you didn't go to college, did you?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Okay, so as someone who went to college, those friends you make in the first three months, like, while some of them might stay forever, realistic, like, we can be realistic here. Like, most of them are not forever. Forever. Like, they're not.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Like, you're about to go through four years of your life in this place and you're about to meet so many new people and people are going to come in and out and you're in the dorms and, like, you know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
I also like to say that me and my friend group like to say that we all have our fatal flaw. And if you can accept someone for their fatal flaw, then you can accept everything else.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
No. Some people's fatal flaws are worse than others. They like to say that about me. But... No. But it's okay.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Because once you accept it, you're good. Right. Because once you accept someone's fatal flaw, like you... you can't complain about it anymore. You're like, oh, that's just their fatal flaw. And then when you take that out of the equation, you're not complaining about much. And then friendship's awesome.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
But I had so much fucking fun on tour. Like I really, really learned how to like balance stuff on the road. And, you know, like I finally I worked out. Like, you know, I feel like I handled myself better. This week's therapist is with Caitlin Deaver. She is in one of my favorite TV shows of all time, Dope Sick.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Like, you have to accept... I haven't gotten that far yet.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Right. Wait, I'm, like, thinking about the people I speak to now, and I'm like, you're so right.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Yeah, so I guess I need to move it. What do you think my fatal flaw is, Louise? Oh, have you never discussed this? No, I know what all my friends say it is, but what do you think it is?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
I'm the worst listener on planet Earth. But that manifests in very, very bad ways all the time because I don't listen.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Maybe there's like... No, well, they like to say I'm a narcissist.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Wow. You're the second guest to tell me I'm not a narcissist. And I really, really appreciate that. You know... Uh, yeah. She told me I wasn't a narcissist either. Oh, that's amazing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
And then I told all my friends and they said, well, Julia said, well, the other day, the other day, Julia tried to tell me a story, one of my best friends, but she said, are you ready to hear a story that isn't about yourself? And I said, pause, I'm not ready yet. I just need five seconds. And she said that that is narcissism, but I wasn't ready.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
I'm always thinking about myself. The guy I was talking to about... I can't help it. I can't. I have a friend who cannot for the life of her stop spoiling everything. Like, she doesn't even think about it for a second, and she'll just blurt out what's in the next episode of Severance or apple cider vinegar. And I just want to scream, how do I fix this?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
I don't know. Sometimes I like to throw out words.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
That is. But the thing is, I believed you. I was like, is it?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
It's a big word. And I'm like, I didn't take it seriously until it started happening to me. And I was like, wait, I'm literally so gaslit right now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
It's the most infuriating feeling in the entire world.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
But for your friend that's spoiling the shows, I just would no longer tell her what you're watching.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
What is the biggest spoil you've ever gotten for a show? Because I remember mine.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
That ruined the entire show. That like actively ruined the entire show.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
That's diabolical. That's diabolical. One time I... What did someone spoil for me? Oh, I think it was like the end of season three of Succession or like... Yeah, I know, Nolan. I know. And or it was... They spoiled – I think it was, like, the end of season three of Succession. And then I also – they also spoiled season two of The White Lotus, what happened at the end.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
And then they also spoiled – this isn't all the same person, by the way. Oh, I was like, Jesus. This person's spoiling everything. And then I was also spoiled the big – have you seen the OC?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
He's in everything. I literally have the palate of a five-year-old boy. I'm trying to go on dates with these men, but every time we go to a nice restaurant, I want to throw up. How do I culture myself? I have the best advice for this. I hated olives. Olives were my number one enemy. The sight of them made me want to throw up, gag. You...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Yes, because I realized that they are classy, chic, and wealthy. And I knew I needed to get behind this. And everybody was drinking them and everyone was talking about how good dirty martinis are and this, that, and the third. And I was like, I have to do this. I have to figure out how to do this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
And once you just pull the bandaid off, the first time you're like, ew, second time, you're like, okay. And the third time, you'll actually enjoy them. You can't overdo it, though. I had six or seven the other night, and I feel nauseous thinking about them now, but I really like olives now. I can really eat them. The same thing happened with me and sushi as a kid. I hated sushi. I hated raw fish.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
You're still there? Yeah. You can do it. You just start with the vegetable rolls, and you make your way to the fish.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Yes, but that's all it takes. You start and then you keep going and going and going.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Me too. I hated avocado. And then I slowly started with guac and I just like went from there.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
I wouldn't say it's my favorite, but I do enjoy it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Yeah, me too. I feel like these like niche foods always have clubs, except the one food I'll never, ever enjoy. And I'm putting it out there now. And if I do, like hell has frozen over. Beets. I hate beets.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
How hard was the accent to nail down? Because I was talking with someone the other day and I'm pretty sure they said, that the Australian accent is like so, so difficult to do.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
I don't think I've ever even tasted one. I just don't like the look of it. I don't like the texture of it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
I love nectarines. I heard stone fruit and I thought of rocks. To be honest with you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Sometimes I just speak without thinking. I saw this TikTok the other day that was like, I don't think before speaking, so I'm just as shocked as you are. And like, I really resonated with that. You know, I really did.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
okay are you a i can just tell you no no now i want to i'm going to do three because i have 12 chances so i'm gonna guess three okay virgo out you cancer no yeah i don't know why i guessed that sorry yeah um are you a leo no what are you i'm a capricorn yeah yeah i should have guessed it what do you think i am
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
With Gemini rising, Gemini moon. Yeah, it's diabolical. Do you know you're rising in your moon?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
I love Pisces. Jane, I love Pisces. Pisces are my favorite sign.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
One of my roommates is disgusting. She hooks up in our dorm shower. We are all here and she pees her bed when she's drunk. And is genuinely farting all the time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Genuinely. How do we tell her that she needs to get it together? Because she gets super defensive when we talk to her about anything.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
I would move out. Right? Like, what are you supposed to do? You're disgusting.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
In the dorm shower. And that to me doesn't feel that crazy. That really does not feel that crazy to me. Maybe that's because I was in like the party dorm of my college, but like that just doesn't feel crazy to me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Yeah. I think you would have liked college. I don't know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
So basically my roommate is a random person. She was fucking crazy to sum it up. But one time she made up the story that her grandpa died as an excuse to go fuck another dude in a different state while she had a boyfriend. She left while he was at our apartment. So he stayed and we all kind of sort of had to like watch him. Not know. It was so weird. Do we get involved? Watch him. Watch what?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Oh, okay. She made up an excuse that her grandpa tied as an excuse to go hook up with another guy while she had a boyfriend. Right. All these people, her roommates, had to basically babysit the boyfriend while he was in the apartment alone and watch him not know that she was lying about the grandpa. Do they get involved?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
I also think you get involved, especially cause it's so diabolical. Well, what did we learn today?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Thank you. Thank you. What else? I learned that you, I consider you to be so, so good at what you do, which I just think is so impressive. Thank you so much. So that's what I learned.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Oh, I think she's going to love it. I think she's going to love it. Yeah. Do you want to give a little bye, pussies? Bye, pussies. Bye, pussies. Thanks for coming on, Caitlin. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me. Oh, thanks for being here. It was He slayed and he shook.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
How did you like prepare? Like how did you see a dialect coach?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Well, I literally thought you were Australian. So I think you did a good job. Thank you. I was like, Caitlin Deaver's coming on. My friend was like, she's Australian. And I was like, that makes so much sense because her accent was so good in Apple Cider Vinegar.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
Not Australia. Both start with A's. But was it hard to go in and out of that accent? Like from take to like not take?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
More recently, she was Belle Gibson in Apple Cider Vinegar, which is about a real person, Belle Gibson. And she basically pretended that she cured her terminal brain cancer first.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
through like healthy eating and it was a crazy story and she's from Australia but yeah that's what Apple Cider Vinegar is about so Caitlin Deaver plays this con woman Belle Gibson and like through her lies and eventually being found out and it's fascinating she's also recently announced that she's going to be in season two of The Last of Us which is one of my favorite shows as well and
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
So but what the spreadsheet. What does that spreadsheet look like. Like how does that help you manage.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
No, but it makes sense. Was there, was there like a year specifically in the story that was like the hardest to switch back and forth from?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
You also, like, the roles I've seen you in are all, like, so incredibly different. So, like, I am really, like, speaking of shape-shifting, like, curious to hear about, like, what is your normal prep for a role like?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 65: Kaitlyn Dever
I just think she's so talented and I'm so happy I got to talk with her. I think she's so fucking cool and like so humble and like awesome. I'm just, she's great. And I'm really excited for you guys to get to know her if you don't already. To see if I'm coming to a city near you, go to pastthatpuss.com and click live with Jake Shane.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Solving your problems with the famous person on the couch It's Therapus He's got you on the hook He slayed and he shook It's Therapus, Therapus, Therapus, Therapus With me, Jake Shane Hello pussies and happy 2025 Oh my god, I cannot believe it's 2025 Um...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
She is so fucking awesome. She's so funny. She's so talented. She's so smart. I'm so excited for you guys to learn about her if you don't know her already. For those who don't know, Peyton was a little too starstruck to come in. And I wanted Peyton to come in and hang out with us for the episode. But Peyton, Nicole, Julia, and I all hung out in the main house. So Peyton had her time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
And they were just mean. Well, that I can tell you, I mean at 15, I don't know if you knew it, but, um, I can tell you that that's literal, just insecurity projecting all up on you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
You know who needs a lot of psychological help is every single character in these movies.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Because. It's crazy. It's. The actual premise is like so. Fucked up. Fucked up. Because I'm watching the second one and I'm like thinking I'm like how is not everyone talking about how the entire family is together. But like I guess technically. We're not family. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
I like that. Does the third film, I don't know if you can give too much away, but is there a race scene in the third film as well?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Because in the first two movies, you guys, there's like racing. And like a lot of it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Now that you've finished filming all three films, do you see yourself acting more? Are you in anything exciting coming up?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Payne asked all the questions she needed to. And yeah, Nicole, if you're watching this, I love you so much. I'm so proud of you. Culpatuya is fantastic. If you have not seen it yet, I hope you pussies watch it immediately after this or before this. I don't care. It's incredible. And Nicole, you're incredible. And yeah, happy new year, pussies. Enjoy the episode. Hi, pussies.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
When you work on sets like that, are you alone? Who are you with?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
No, I wish, I feel like I wish I could have your attitude. Like, don't care if people are being mean to you. Don't care if you're alone. I'm an Aries. Just picked up acting one day.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
You're an Aries. I was going to ask, what are you? You're an Aries.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Interesting. Okay, so you know how to feel emotions.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Wow. And you're also Sagittarius rising, so you know how to party.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Yes. And you know what? It's so weird. So many people always tell me I've infiltrated their dreams. Really?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
I want to say that I have it saved. I sometimes forget to save voice memos.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Oh, that is so funny. I forgot that that's what the dream was about. People dance on top of horses?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Do you ride horses? Yes. Okay. How long have you been riding horses for?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Yeah, Passandra's the greatest. Patrick's awesome, too.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
No, they're brother and sister, but, you know, as we know... Sorry. As we know. I mean, I guess they're stepbrothers and sisters, so... Then maybe? They could. Nick and Noah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Welcome back to Therapus. Today, we have a really, really full circle moment. If you remember from season one, Peyton's favorite movie ever, Copa Mia. I became obsessed with it. We all became obsessed with it. Well, the sequel is now coming out, Copa Tuya. And we have the star of the movie here, Nicole Wallace. Hi! Oh my God, I'm freaking out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
When Jenna is upset with Lyon... Sorry, this is a spoiler alert for those who haven't seen it yet. When Jenna is upset with Lyon... For racing. I didn't really understand that part because Lion, to me, was just trying to get the money to save his garage. So why was Jenna upset? Did I miss something?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Yeah. Men are just. Hard. I asked somebody on a date the other day and they said, sure.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Sure. Sure. What does fucking sure mean? It means, like, maybe. It means, like, if... Why not? The guy was from London, so, like, maybe, like, that's just how they were speaking, or... I mean, London, yeah, English boys can be very... How are the men in Madrid?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
I think everybody is much more real than in America.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Right. But someone could argue that that's just because they're happy as is.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
I think that would charge me, I think they would charge me $18 for that here.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Maybe more, honestly. Plus tip, tax, probably over $20.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
I've never been to Madrid. I've been to Spain. I've been to Barcelona.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
But I was supposed to fly out for that. And then I couldn't. Something would schedule. It didn't end up working. But I was like... Because me, Tate, and Nicole all worked out together.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
And we were talking about, like, oh, we should all go to this... Well, Tate was like, yeah, I should probably go to the concert. But... We should go, me and Nicole, we should go to the show in Madrid. How was it? It was so good.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Her stage presence is, like, otherworldly to me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
She is so hardworking. I've seen that girl's schedule, and it is relentless. And, like, she never heard her complain once. Ever.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
I'm so excited. We just had a little thing inside where Peyton screamed at the top of her lungs and jumped up and down and hugged her.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
No, that's good. That's what we do here. It's what we do in the therapist's office. We cut each other off. And I'm sure I have already cut you off at least 40 times. So they're remaking the Coupables series.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
In English. But the Coupable series in Spanish isn't even finished yet.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
I wonder. I just found it. I mean, I guess they saw the success of it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Wait. Speaking of Sabrina, speaking of pop stars, you love Taylor Swift.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
No, because Peyton is... Peyton is part of the press tour for Copa Tuya.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Was it? I'm seeing right here. King of My Heart. And? Jump Then Fall.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
You're on your own kid. You're on your own kid. Long live.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
She's told every single person, like, and I got the, well, I got the advanced screening link to watch it before this. And so I watched it without Peyton. And now tonight we are going to watch it again with Peyton. And it was just, okay. It was incredible.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
You guys got a lot. Oh, she was mashing them up, huh?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
She was mashing them up. Okay, do you have like a favorite? What's your favorite Taylor Swift song and what's your favorite Taylor Swift album?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Really? That's the inspiration. Wait. So the Mercedes Ron.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
The author of the books. That was her inspiration.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
She's a little, everyone in that movie is trouble.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Okay, so I was literally finishing it as you pulled up.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Did Noah and the guy from college, did they hook up? Yeah, they did. They did. And then the parents are like, everything is our fault.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Everybody is lying in that. Except for Noah. You come clean at the end.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Before we get into everything, should we tell the pussies in the audience what the Coupables series is about?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
I thought Noah's roommate was going to do something way crazier. You know what I'm talking about. That cat scene. I know. Was despicable.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Because I thought she was about to kill the cat.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Oh, they, they try. And then were they like, this is too.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
She plays crazy. But like, I will say what happened to her in the film. If that happened to me, I would know this. And I would, that is so bad. It's so bad. It's so unforgivable. It's unforgivable. I would do what she did 10 times worse.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
I think I would like to think I'm a revenge person. But no, I'm not. Are you?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
I'm just like, I hate it. I hate it. Because I'm very easily... I'm very easily swayed, so I don't know by the end of the confrontation whether I'm right or wrong. Like, I just, I'm very easily- Like, what are we even fighting about? Like that, and like, wait, am I wrong?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Like, is it my fault? Like, I'm very easily persuaded. Okay. But what about, and you don't mind a confrontation?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Okay. I feel kind of similarly. Like I can confront,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
In terms of like, I always, when something bad happens to me, I always have these moments where I'll be like, that is never going to happen to me again because I'm going to surpass that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Like, do you know what I mean? Like, I am going to, I'm going to win.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
The best revenge is always winning. 100%. I think I learned that the hard way in high school. But I did learn it. And I would say it's an important lesson that I've learned. Yeah, like choosing your battles and knowing- Well, I still choose a little too many battles, but I still like to go to war.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
But I do have an issue where I still pick fights, but in terms of revenge, I do know, as Beyonce once said, the best revenge is your paper.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
So when you were filming Culpa Mía and then it obviously blew up and then you had to film the next two, the dynamics on set, was anything affected by the success and the fame of it all?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
No, bitch, I need to come to Madrid right fucking now. Like, I know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
That sounds... Incredible. If Peyton was here right now, she would be on her phone booking her flight to Madrid.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
And, and would you say that people have like their phones out a lot less on these nights?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Oh, I feel like here it's just like you'll go to a house party and everyone, including me, is on their phone and just scrolling and scrolling.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
So, okay, a few questions. Yes. So we were talking about this before, but so it's a trilogy, right?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Let me tell you that the clubs here are not... Great. But I'll tell you where the clubs are great. New York.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
You've been to New York. Have you ever partied in New York?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
If that's even an option, of course. Why is everyone here then? I love LA. I love LA, but for what you are describing that you don't like- It's not.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
So we have Copa Mia, Copa Tuya, and Copa Nuestra. Yes. okay perfect period um duolingo so you filmed copa tuya and copa nuestra together yes okay like back to back or was it like how did that work it was like mixed in so some days we have like two um scenes of one and then no way yeah so it was all together oh wow what was the reasoning behind that
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
It's okay. It's your experience. That is your experience. And you are entitled to that. And I think that's so fascinating that Barcelona is LA, Madrid is New York.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Okay. Wow. I've only been to Barcelona. And then...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
New York's a little too fast sometimes. I did not know Madrid was so fast paced like that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
I think that's a fascinating take. Are you having fun, by the way?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Literally. Literally. You love Madrid. You don't want to leave. If an acting opportunity arose in the States, would you take it?
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Um, what side of the family is American? My dad, your dad, where, where was he raised?
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Oh, wow. Yeah. Okay. And how did your mom and your dad meet? Sorry.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
I would say, okay, so I'm actually recording this intro in 2024. I am really, really hoping right now that I have held out on my no weed until 2025 because that would be so fucking awesome. Also, this hoodie smells amazing. You know when you, like, spray cologne or perfume on, like, a hoodie and it, like, lasts for a few days? Ugh. Mm-hmm.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Wow. It's crazy. So your dad literally fell in love in Spain and never went back.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
How was your relationship with her being your momager?
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
You know what? I mean, I know that it lives in your head. I would never have guessed that, but...
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
How does your anxiety usually like manifest itself? Like how does it come out?
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Right, because you'd be filming two movies that are, like, the same.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Okay. I'm currently trying to wean myself off of THC. So maybe I should get into the CBD because the THC was making me anxious.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
And I think I was like doing it because, you know, sometimes when you eat when you're bored.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
So it's better to eat when you're bored than smoke when you're bored.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Um, I, I was smoking a lot when I was bored and it just like made me super anxious. And so I'm like on day three right now without it. And I just, I don't feel as tired. And like, I feel right. Nolan, would you say I feel more awake than usual?
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Yeah. That's so cool that you said that you just let your anxiety pass.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
But you also, and you watch your comfort TV shows.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Who do you, who's your favorite character? Blair. Yeah, I love Blair. She's my favorite, too.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
The shit that goes down in these movies. You have no idea. You have no idea. Well, okay. And it's funny because Nicole and I like hang out. We go to Pilates together.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Oh. No. Right. Cause I was like, how the fuck did I not see you? Cause I was wandering. I had no one to talk to for a minute. I was wandering that boat in circles. I was like, if I knew you were there.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
I was there. I was there. I was supposed to be in the video. I was there. I was there. That was a sick show.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Are you ready to get into the tell me what's wrong?
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Okay, let's do it. My boyfriend has a girl best friend who he gives a lot more attention to. He says it's healthy for us as she's his platonic soulmate. He also has guy friends he connects with, but am I jealous for zoning in on her?
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
But we never, I finally saw Copa Tuya. So now I'm like, I have all my questions. Okay. So what was I going to say? I'm just so excited. The car racing scenes. The car racing scenes. How are those filmed? Like obviously when you're doing it, because in the movie, Noah, who Nicole plays. She's a bad bitch. She's a bad bitch. She's a bad bitch. And she also races.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
I was gonna say the same thing. I think connecting with the girl.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
I will say him calling her his platonic soulmate is a little rubbing it in her face.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
You're going to love it. Gossip Girl. When Serena's dating Dan and then Vanessa comes in.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
And Serena's jealous of Vanessa, but because her and Dan are best friends.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
The premise is there. But yeah, I would say your feelings are super fucking valid.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Um, talk to the girl. And like Nicole said, if she's a girl's girl, she'll hear you out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Going on year three with a new roommate each year in our apartment. Each one is crazier than the last. How do you find not just friends, but the right people to live with?
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
It can be. I am very lucky because I've always lived... I used to live alone. So my freshman year of college and my sophomore year of college, I lived alone and then I lived with my friends and it's been great ever since. And then I moved in with Julia and Brett and like... And obviously it's an adjustment period, but it's just been incredible. And I'm very lucky.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
But I would say finding a roommate and finding a therapist are kind of similar. It's all kind of like dating.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
You have to try. And it's hard and it might not work out. Look. It sucks to hear, but life isn't fair.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Life's not fair. So you're not going to, sometimes you're not going to find the best roommate on the first time or the second time or the third time.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
And then maybe you're like, maybe the conversation is you try again or you live alone. Personally, I struggle to live alone. I just can't. It makes me too depressed. It makes me too anxious. That's just my experience. If this is your year three with a new roommate and it's still bad, try living alone.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
I was living with your sister. Oh, oh, like you lived with her growing up.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Exclamation point. Like you, you really know yourself. I mean, you're a psychology major, so I guess it makes sense, but you really know what you need mentally and you really, you really know yourself. It's really awesome to see.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
like favor but sometimes it's horrible because i'm like i can't i would love to be a little more impulsive and a little less self-aware so i could like fuck up a little more yeah i'm too responsible sometimes sometimes i feel that way too yeah i'm too scared to fuck up i'm too anxious yeah i'm too like um i'm too scared of what will happen yeah me too so sometimes it's good times
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Two of my best friends begged me to have a threesome with them, and it's destroying our relationship. I cannot look at them the same.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Also, never, ever been in that situation. Yeah. I know people that have, though. Okay. And you kind of just have to... I don't know. I don't know.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Right. And if that's their reaction and the relationship is weird and it's destroying your relationship, maybe let it fizzle.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
I hooked up with my neighbor, and now he won't stop knocking on my door and trying to hang out with me.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
He's low-key ugly, and I was drunk when I hooked up with him. How do I get him to leave me alone?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
You just got to be like, I'm not interested. I'm sorry. I understand.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
I got laid off from my super easy and awesome job, and now I feel like I'm going through a breakup and I need help moving on. I cry every time I think about getting a job where I actually have to work hard.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Cause I kind of agree. Like it's like, you have to work.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
It's important. And like maybe, Maybe watch Confessions of a Shopaholic. Have you ever seen that movie?
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
So good. She kind of gets a reality check wake up call and has to figure life out. Or I prescribe Girls. Girls is so good. It's my favorite show of all time.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
It's my favorite show of all fucking time. Wait, have you seen the whole thing?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Oh my God, it's the best show ever. Watch Girls because they kind of also have to get reality checks.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
I learned that I love you even more than I already thought I loved you.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
We learned that you're an incredibly hard worker. Thank you. And we learned about the sandwich method.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Pussies, we love you. Nicole, thank you for coming on. I love you.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Do you, what was your, I guess you filmed the second and the third together, but in your eyes, which one is your favorite?
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Um, and then it's done. We're done after the third one.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
So how did you film that at the same time as the second? Are you supposed to like, do you have different looks? Like how did you do that? Um,
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Yeah. That's why they pay me. Speaking of acting, you are—I cannot even emphasize this enough— Exceptional. Like, exceptional. No, seriously. Like, there are some people who are just really born for it. And I really feel that way about you. Like, your mannerisms, the way you portray emotion without, like, saying anything. Like, you are so gifted.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Okay, well, pussies, today's episode has been a long time fucking coming. Ever since Peyton showed me Copa Mia last year, I became obsessed. And more importantly, I became obsessed with the movie star, Nicole Wallace, who I just found to be a literal, like, exceptional, exceptional actress. She is so fucking talented, you guys, like... I was blown away. Like, I was actually so blown away.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
So, of course, you deserve it. How long have you been acting for? When did you start acting?
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Wow. So everything happened fairly quickly for you. Yeah.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
I mean, you're also literally amazing. Like, wow. But do you, were you like, was anybody anticipating how big Copa Mio was going to be? Or were you like shell shocked?
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
How fast after the release did you realize, oh, this is like much bigger than I anticipated? Yeah.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Yeah, like I took Spanish in high school and college, but... Do you remember anything? Like... Come on.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Okay. Maybe say a sentence to me and I'll like see if I can translate it.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
And I'm lucky enough that I can now call her a friend. And the latest installation of the Copa Bliss series, Copa Tuya, is out now on Amazon Prime everywhere. And we are lucky enough to have had Nicole Wallace in the therapist's office. So I thought, what better way to kick off 2025 and celebrate the Copa Tuya premiere than an episode with the queen herself, Nicole Wallace.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
We are friends forever. Oh, my God. Okay, wait, wait, wait. And we also, speaking of friends forever, well... We have a few more things in common other than loving these movies. And well, you're in the movies, so of course you love them. But Ariana Grande.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Yes, have you? Did you cry your eyes out? Okay, so I haven't cried in like years. I'm on meds and I can't cry.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Yes, yes, yes. It's a vibe. Thank you so much. So how long have you been an Ari fan for?
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
She is like one of the strongest people. I feel like she's been through it all and like really just continues to make art.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
It's like my, it's my song of the year. Like it really is. So what's your favorite?
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
So underrated. And I didn't get it at first. I really didn't get it at first. But I love Eternal Sunshine so much because every song somehow grew on me.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
It's so good. But the one that didn't need to grow on me and that I love- The one that didn't need to grow on me besides we can't be friends was imperfect for you. That one fucks.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
Well, you know I've never had a boyfriend, so I have no one to think about but my friends.
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
And how long have you and your best friend been friends for?
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Session 51: Nicole Wallace
And you started acting when you were 15. Mm-hmm. You grew up in Madrid.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Hi pussies, welcome back to Therapus. I am really, really, really tired today. I just got back from New York last night. I had a very fun time last week. My first episode of Hacks came out, which was so incredible. I watched it in bed and I was like, I seriously can't believe this is real. So I just wanted to say a quick thank you to Paul, Lucia and Jen for taking a chance on me and letting me
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
What is the political, tell me about the political campaign.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Yeah. Enjoy tonight's episode. Love you, pussies. Hi, pussies. Welcome back to Therapist. Today we have... You know, I'm going to say it. My favorite comedian in the entire world. Nobody makes me laugh harder. Nobody is more original. Nobody is better.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
It's going to be awesome. Have you written the show or are you just like getting up there and doing it?
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Like, yeah, where is she? Didn't she, like, say she could see something from her house? Wasn't that Sarah Palin's whole bit? Oh, she could see Russia from her house.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
I was talking to this guy from the other day. Whoa! In a sexual way? A little. And he asked me where I live and something about it just like told me him like maybe I shouldn't. So I was like, you know, I live in like this vicinity of Los Angeles. And then I didn't respond to him for a day. And I knew my gut was right because let me read you.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Where's my, can I want to read you what he said to me? Will you grab me my phone? Okay, ready for WhatsApp? Yeah. Because it was WhatsApp.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
He said, because he called me six times. Oh, that's scary. I'm glad he doesn't know where you live. And then he said, I didn't respond. And he said, typical gay.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
I mean everyone, I'm saying. She's about to embark on her Prettiest Girl in America tour. She is a star of the Emmy Award winning, Golden Globe winning, Critics Choice Award winning comedy show, Hacks, and the star of the new Lena Dunham directed show, Too Much. Max Salter.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
How crazy? He never met you. But then he called me blackout drunk, screaming at his Uber driver. What?
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
No, the Uber driver was like, where do you want to get dropped off? And he was like, I don't know.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Wait, you should get it. You've never even seen it.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
They will. You know what I'm looking at? I can't stop looking at it because I was thinking about how I don't like mine. You have an amazing nose. Oh.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Well, my nose used to be perfect. It is perfect. I was at Arnold in Cape Cod, which is a lobster place, when I was six years old and I fell off a tree.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
That is true. I've never had any work done. Have you? No, never. I've never done it.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
That's so true because I want to facelift so badly when I turn 40.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
You are my all-time favorite. No one makes me laugh harder.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
I really do. All of this goes to say what I was therapist. What I'm therapist about is that I do have a deviated septum. Does it bother you? Closed. Okay. So basically what happens sometimes is like, I was just talking to you. You can't see it though at all, by the way. But I was just talking to you and like,
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
It, like, something closed up here, and then, like, it felt like an echo in my ear, and, like... Oh, my God. Yeah, it, like, hurts almost.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
No, and, like, I want to get it taken away. I'm not gonna get a nose job if I do. I just, like, it just happened again.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Well, no, Joan Rivers didn't make me, like, she made me laugh in kind of like a way, you know? It's like, I can't believe you said that.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Want to know something weird though? I went to the ear, nose and throat doctor. It's literally happening right now. And he said, you don't have a deviated septum.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
He was phoning it in that day. He was like, no, you don't have one. I feel it. I know I have one.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
I was like, what? I feel like I have one. He's like, you don't.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
It's like, it like clogs right there. And then I like hear a vibration in my ear.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Yeah, it always gets clogged up on airplanes. Okay, my ears pop really bad on the airplanes. Really, one time they popped so bad that I started crying and all the flight attendants had to help me.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
And I had a layover in Amsterdam and I walked around Amsterdam, the airport, crying and they didn't have any iced coffee or any good food. And I was so upset.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
And then finally when it pops, it's like you're, like, orgasming.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
You know what I always think about when cleaning ears? What? Have you ever seen that episode of Girls where Hannah has an OCD attack and has to... Oh, my God.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Neither do I because of that episode. What was it like working with Lena Dunham?
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Okay. Okay. I have always thought about if I were to do a sex scene, like, yeah, I don't know how I like, what was it like?
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
We were flirting all day, and then, do you remember, I left for Miami that night, and you had me text you every... hour and update on my travels.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Well, I learned that, actually, when I lost my virginity.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Yeah, but okay. So I once went to a wedding that was an outside wedding and it rained.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Yeah, we thought there was never rain. No, I know, exactly. There was.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Hopefully I am. You will be. Oh, thank you. Well, how are you doing? I didn't have anything else to say. Anyway, I like the octopus. You like the octopus?
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
What do you think your hair is going to look like?
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Yeah. Right? But then it's like I take them off and it's like, oh, whoa.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Yeah. Well, pussies, it is almost Mother's Day. Happy Mother's Day to all the mamas out there. This is Peyton and I's first Mother's Day as mamas with our babies, Justin and Bradley. We are so in love with them, and it's just a real reminder that mothers everywhere deserve the best. Without my mom, I would not be who I am. She taught me how to write. She taught me how to gossip.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
She taught me how to... Be funny in a smart way. She really is the best. And, Mom, I love you so much. And if you still have not gotten your mom or a mom in your life a gift for Mother's Day, Cozy Earth's bamboo pajamas are literally perfect. You guys know how much I love pajamas. My mom loves pajamas, too. And Cozy Earth really makes the most comfortable pajamas.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
I found out about Cozy Earth actually yesterday. when I started getting their sheets for my bed, their bamboo sheets for my bed. And then I realized that they make bamboo pajamas, which is just basically like I'm living in my sheets. So who wouldn't love that? It really is the perfect gift for Mother's Day. It is the perfect gift to just lounge with your mom or a mother figure in your life.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
I had no idea when I first started buying their sheets that they had such incredible loungewear and pajamas and they really just have everything and it's so comfortable. I mean, I feel like inherently if a brand, That makes sheets, also makes clothes. You can expect those clothes to be extremely comfortable. In this case, they are.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Whether you're celebrating a mom, remembering a mom, longing to be a mom, or navigating motherhood in an unexpected way, moms deserve the best. And you guys know I love a discount code. This Mother's Day, get 40% off your purchase at CozyEarth.com with my code, Jake.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
And they're doing a BOGO sale, buy one, get one, so you can use my code JAKEBOGO to get one pair of bamboo pajamas and then get another pair free. First Hope for Mother's Day, you and a mom or a mother figure in your life can be twinning. I obviously know what I'm getting Peyton to celebrate our first Mother's Day. I hope she has the same idea for me.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
But once again, go to CozyEarth.com and use code Jake for 40% off or code Jake Bogo for buy one, get one bamboo pajamas. Thank you so much, Cozy Earth, for sponsoring today's episode. And a happy Mother's Day to everyone out there. If you're loving, remembering, or longing to be a mom, we are here for you and we love you. This episode of Therapist is brought to you by Booking.com. Booking. Yeah!
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Oh my God, that one was a little more singy than usual. Booking.com is my go-to for booking any vacation needs, especially when I'm on tour. We literally, as you guys know, show up to a city and don't have anything booked, but we always go on booking.com and we can put in exactly what we need if we want a terrace.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
If we want walkability, which obviously I need because I do not drive and I like to move my feet while I'm on tour because most of the time I'm just sitting. But I've been using Booking.com especially recently because I'm trying to book summer travels, which I don't usually do. I'm like doing it as an adult for the first time. I usually get a lot of help with it.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
But for the first time, I'm kind of doing it on my own. And so I went to Booking.com. I put in exactly where I'm going, exactly what I'm looking for. And they listed out a bunch of hotels or vacation rentals. They also offer that. That offered exactly what I need. It really just takes the stress out of traveling, at least for me. And I, as you guys know, I'm the worst traveler ever.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
So anything to make me feel better, I would love. And as I said, like this sponsorship couldn't have come at a better time because we used it all throughout tour and now I'm using it for my summer. You can also book like things to make a full rounded vacation. Like as I said, you can do vacation rentals. You can book a car.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Like there's so many things that booking.com can help you with to make sure that you are getting the most out of your trip. It just takes away all the worry of not finding a perfect hotel because they will always find one. that's just right for you and your price range, what you need. It really is just the best. Find exactly what you're booking for at booking.com. Booking. Yeah.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Thank you again, booking.com for sponsoring tonight's episode.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Yeah, I fucking mean it. Kayla is the funniest character on TV. okay, so I watched this episode of Girls and I was like, fuck, that's something I would do. Hannah has a book deal and the publisher dies.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
I understood her. I was like, well, what's she supposed to do? She was really relying on this book.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
But it's also, I think what's so good about her is like, those are like very real feelings that everyone's ashamed to feel and everyone's ashamed to say.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
What's up with my book deal? Yeah. Really and truly.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
But like that, Hannah, like I just, I love Hannah.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
I forgot the Adam and Jessa thing. And also when she makes them pick her up from rehab, which is my favorite girls episode of all time.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
I'd be furious. I'd be so mad if I was Lena or if I was Hannah, I'd be so mad. I actually really liked the final girls episode.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
A lot of people give it slack, but I thought it was great because it was like Hannah's entering her next stage of life, but she's still Hannah.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Because there it's it doesn't like the episode nine closes it.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
She was like, well, people want more. And people are like, oh, well, what's up? This isn't a season finale.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Yeah. Yeah. She's trying to get the baby to latch. Yeah.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
I mean, the Kanye West song. The Kanye West song, the Desi marriage.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Oh, I love that show. Did you watch that show before too much?
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
No, I mean, I was also at home like when I wasn't in college during that. But I wouldn't have been like,
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
No. How nervous was I say I was? I said I've never been more nervous in my life.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Okay, so I don't know if you'll count this, but, like, that's kind of technically when I moved out. I moved out when I was 22.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
But, like, when I left college, like, I went home. And I lived at home for summer and winter. And then COVID, I was at home. I was, like, you know, I was living at home.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
Okay, you want to get into the tell me what's wrongs?
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
I'm really excited too. My best friend was sleeping with an older guy, and we were all like, okay, yes. But then we were over at one of my family functions, and my aunt wanted to introduce her new boyfriend slash future fiancé. And when he came in, my best friend gasped because it was him. We don't know what we should do. Should we tell my aunt? Please help. Plus, love you so much.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
But it says my best friend was sleeping with an older guy.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
I feel like she should actually, yeah, she probably should be like, yo, like... How young is it again? How young is the age difference? No, no.
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
I'm thinking like this group of people is 25 and the aunt is like late 30s. 40.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
The Scorpio. Do you? I'm a Scorpio. I love Scorpios. Scorpios and Virgos get along so well.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
In my career, yes. In my relationship, no. So I'm the same as everyone.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Like I like to be in control of everything outside of sex and love.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Because I think it's, like, I want to feel, like, so wanted that, like, I don't want someone to, I want someone to be, want me so bad that they, like, want to control me. I don't.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
You are always so funny. One time I ran into Trixie Mattel and I didn't know who she was.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Okay, so Aria dates her teacher. And there's the scene where she walks in and gasps because he's her teacher and they already hooked up.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Just like is a vibe. My best friend slash roommate's boyfriend is a narcissist. He also lives with us. I'm moving out in a couple of weeks, but I've just seen her slowly become less and less herself because of how he treats her. He is very controlling and pushes her away from me and our friend group. Should I tell her that I think he is a narcissist and that she should run?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
No, she was in drag. I just wasn't well versed in the space. I like in my head, I was like, Is that Trixie Mattel?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Yeah, my mom always taught me not to get involved in other people's relationships.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Whatever is going on and they just need to figure it out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Yeah. Jake, I am literally obsessed with my boyfriend's ex from high school. Oh. I don't know her, but I consistently find myself stalking her on social media. He gives me no reason to worry, but I can't help it. I think a part of it is that I don't have an ex. How?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Do you think we have a different outlook on it because we're gay?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
be a part of their incredible show. And they also introduced me to the wonderful Meg Stalter, who is our guest tonight. She is so fantastic. We worked together on Hacks for the few days I was there, and she was just so welcoming and so lovely. I was such a huge fan of her before, and meeting her after just... made me an even bigger fan.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Yeah, it is. My boyfriend went to a bachelor party in Mexico and drunkenly posted a video of him making out with a stripper and took it down two minutes later. I didn't see it, but my friend screenshotted it and sent it to me, good friend. Now he's back and he doesn't know that I know. He's acting normal. Do I dump him or get my revenge?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Or maybe you go to a strip club, you make out with a stripper.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
You post it. When he gets mad, you be like, yeah, we're done. So you, like, checkmate him.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Yeah, checkmate. And he's like, tries to get mad. And it's like, you can't get mad. You're done. We're done.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Oh, wait. Oh, my God. This is actually insane. What? Me and my ex-boyfriend have been working on getting back together for months at a party. He kissed a gay guy. He is straight.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
I don't know what, like, just acknowledging that your ex-boyfriend is, like, maybe bisexual.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
But you did say you liked her sweater. Like you played it off.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Well, we don't know. Sometimes the pussies don't get specific.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
My boyfriend and I only had sex with each other. I love him and I hope we get married one day. But I will always wonder what sex with other people will be like. But I don't want to break up. Should I tell him? What would you do? Well, I don't have sex. So, Meg, what would you do?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Right. That's, like, I mean, there's so many pop stars that I feel, like, before they blew up, I didn't know what they looked like.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Right. So, you know what I would prescribe is the movie How to Be Single.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Monogamy is in. Yeah. Do you watch Real Housewives?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Start with Salt Lake. How do you know when it's the right time to move on from a relationship? Like, literally, what are the signs? I should be looking for it. It doesn't feel like it used to, but there are no blaring issues. Help, I'm so lost.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Oh, yeah. That you wrote into a podcast about them?
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
I love that. What would yours be called? Wait, I had one. Oh, Mommy Help, I'm a Narcissist.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
No, no, no. I think I have narcissistic tendencies, but I feel empathy. You are not a narcissist. I care about my friends. I love my friends. I love my family. I have deep amounts of empathy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
You are not. Before you leave, can I ask you what music you're listening to and what you're watching on TV and movies?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Why did they get in trouble? Ooh, yeah, so that was...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Wait, Meg. We are so synced up. I was listening to Lil Wayne this morning.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
You know my favorite feature from Lil Wayne is his verse on Motivation with Kelly Rowland.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Girl, I turn that thing into a rainforest. Rain on my head. Call that brainstorming. Yeah, this is deep. But I go deeper. But make you lose yourself. And find us keepers. It's go green light. Go, go, go, wheezy, go. I like to taste that sugar. That sweet and low. But hold up, wait.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
New position I put her on my plate Then I do the dishes She my motivation I'm her transportation Cause I let her ride While I drive her crazy Then I just keep going Going like I'm racing When I'm done She hold me like a conversation Wheezy baby This is hot You sound just like him Thank you Wait that He is literally like His voice is hot Yeah he's awesome Like it's like Like My motivation Yeah Yeah
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Well, not only are you the prettiest girl in America, which is the name of your upcoming tour, you're also the funniest.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
listen to it I would listen to that Manny would you listen to that
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Session 70: Meg Stalter
I'd listen to it for an hour. I told you, you could be four hours late today and I wouldn't care.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
We didn't really touch on Hacks during the interview because I think I thought it was going to come out before and I didn't want to spoil the surprise, but she was so, so lovely to work with. She's so hysterical. She's such a pro and I just adore her. Everyone on that set was so wonderful. But yeah, I was in New York this week. I had a lot of fun. Yeah, I had a great, great time. I love New York.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
I think you should sing. I think you could do anything you set your mind to.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
What do you feel like God's put you on this earth to do?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Your video of when you do... So for those that don't know, Meg does meet and greets during the show.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
You do meet and greets during the show. And she just screams at the audience members.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
They're doing it wrong. So, like, for example, someone will be walking around and go like this. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
I do, though, have an anxiety there that I don't have.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
in los angeles i go back on tour may 16th i start in san francisco we just locked down a really exciting guest for las vegas over memorial day weekend um it's just i'm so excited to be back on the road if you don't have tickets yet go to past that puss.com click live with jake shane and see if i'm coming to a city near you also if you want to submit a tell me what's wrong go to past that puss.com and click tell me what's wrong and leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
I think, I think if you just do what God put you on this earth to do,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
That means you did a good job. When straight man hates something, it means you did a good job.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
One time someone told me, I think it was a straight guy, that he wished I was on the top floor in the Twin Towers during 9-11.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Top four, which means I have no way of getting down.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Louise, what was the Google ad? Yeah, the pixel Google pixel.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
I think I was doing like a bit. It was like find out Google has a phone.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
Wait, what office one? Oh, that's Walmart. Oh, okay, okay. That's Walmart. With Paul. Paul Briganti directed that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 70: Meg Stalter
He told me to tell you that he says hi, but only as an animal Memoji.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Hi pussies! Happy Friday and welcome back to Therapist. Today we have a special episode for you guys. Me and the other half of my mama tribe, Peyton, came on to talk all things motherhood in this special mama-themed therapist. If you don't know, we have two new babies, Bradley and Justin. We gave birth a few months ago but introduced them to the world a few weeks ago when we...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Yeah, that was the first listen.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
How's The Bachelor this season? Ssss.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Wait, why, though? Why are people saying it's not good?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Is Julia enjoying her first bachelor bar? Yes. Okay, but, like, there's no drama, right? There's so much drama. So then why is it boring?
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
And we didn't know we were pregnant. We didn't know we were pregnant.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
I haven't heard anything about it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Do you have a favorite Bachelor that you've ever seen?
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
You know what show I'm going to start watching? You're going to be so happy about it.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Summer House. I've never seen it. I've heard it's amazing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Well, so Paige was with, what's his name? Craig?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
We had eight martinis and we were so nauseous. Like I remember that Uber ride home and I was like holding on for dear life. He kept telling me to get out. What he kept saying?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
But has Craig always been a part of the cast?
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
And was it like devastating when they broke up?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Can you imagine going through a public breakup?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
It would be bad. It would be bad.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
You'd have to take my phone. Did I even tell you what I was therapist about today?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
I guess I was therapist about my nausea.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Good. I'm therapist that I get into Dallas really early tomorrow and Matt gets in at like 6 p.m. Shocker. It's like, what do you, why? He's like, my flight's at 4 p.m. Who flies at 4 p.m.? Of course, Matt. But it's like, I feel like for me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
And it's like, I, my confusion is like, wouldn't you rather fly at night or in the morning? Like 4 p.m. is diabolical.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Should we ask him why he's flying at four?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
I'm calling him. Was it he swissed?
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
What? That part. Oh, you were saying that part? Yeah, because that part.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
And then Matt woke up, and I got a call in the morning saying, like, fucking Peyton was, like, in the background going, that part, that part.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Well, it's hard, because, like, we really, like, when I believe in something and you believe in something, like, we'll really convince each other of it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
So I saw Copa Tua before pay-in, which was like a cardinal sin.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Like, don't eat too much. Like, we have plans.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
And so we did watch it. I did watch it in bed alone. And then you watched it with Julia.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
I forget like how freaky they get.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Yeah, I loved it too. I, I, okay, here's what I didn't understand. I didn't understand. Okay, can you remind me of the character's names?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Yes. Yes, I remember that. I remember that.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
No, not Noah, but Noah's friend.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Jenna's boyfriend. I understand why Jenna was mad at her boyfriend for racing to get money. Like, she was, like, actually actively angry, and it's like he literally had no other option.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Wait, I missed that. What happened?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
What do you mean you met them outside of dinner?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
And Payne was like, I guess I threw up. I think I slept in her room that night.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
What do you mean, how do you know Culpa Mia? It's a worldwide sensation.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
I guess we had Nicole to answer all of our questions.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
I miss her. We got to go to Madrid.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
What are people saying about Copa Mia London?
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
So nothing's different. It's just in London.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
So in Coppamia Nuestra, like... And it's like, ugh. I'm just like, so... How did we end off in Coppetua?
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
What happened again? Spoiler alert.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
So we went out and we shook our ass. We obviously didn't know we were expecting. Which is super dangerous.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Well, he was, like, super foul in the movie.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
So he's, like, a bad guy in the movie.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
But like obviously... I don't love Noah's mom.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
But it's like you would think... She's very selfish. So selfish. Yeah. Like you would think they went through so much together. What's the problem?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Well, it's just like, you can't do anything about it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
We should probably watch Culpa Mia London. I know. Is it called Culpa Mia London, or is it My Fault London?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
What are some of your other favorite Netflix originals?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Yeah, it was super dangerous. But we didn't know, so it's fine. Then we woke up the next morning and we went to Beverly Glen Deli.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Oh, okay. So good. Yeah, you've seen that, what, twice?
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Can I ask you a question? Do these shows ever end differently?
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
No, I'm just saying, like, can, like, they're all kind of the same vibe, like.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Well, I'm just wondering, because, I mean, like, a lot of, like, my thriller shows, like, I can, like, pretty much guess.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
No, but I can, like, guess what's going to happen. Like in Paradise, something happened in the last episode. I guessed it right before it happened.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
What else? What's XO Kitty about?
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Oh, those milkshakes were amazing. And mozzarella sticks. Well, you know, they were hungry.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
What other, what other Netflix originals?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
I love Shonda Rhimes. I don't, I don't like period pieces. I'm surprised you do.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Don't they do an instrumental version of Thank U, Next?
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Like... People love Nobody Wants This.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Are you excited? You know what I wish we could rewatch for the first time?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Yeah, we were having cravings. We got, we got, ooh, were the mod sticks good?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Well, that's a Hulu original. Well, that's actually a book.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
I feel like your favorite author is Coho.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Well, weren't you just reading a Coho book?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Didn't Coho do The Housemaid? No. Yes, she did.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Okay, should we read it together?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Like do you do a chapter a night?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
You are like slow with the stuff you consume.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Yeah, but like you like to like, you're good at like self-control.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Right? You don't like them? I thought our meal at Beverly Glen Deli that following week with Julia was the best.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Well, Peyton also used to wake up two hours before work to watch Scandal.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Were you excited to wake up? Yes. Would you, like, wake up and run to the couch?
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
What was your favorite season of Scandal? Mine's obviously season two. Um...
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
No. Oh, my God. Where was I? It was amazing. You were in San Francisco. Yes. You were in San Francisco.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
You were like hungover from Shondaland.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Is she your favorite showrunner? She's a good showrunner. She's the best.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Yeah, Peyton's very scared of needles for those who don't know. I guess we haven't talked about this before.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Yeah, Peyton's very scared of needles.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Wait, but have you seen How to Get Away with Murder?
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Should we? Okay, because I haven't seen that in a really, really long time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Do you remember the day we went out after I lost my virginity? That was the night there was like a gun scare at the club.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
You don't remember this or like a knife scare or like some fucking scare. We were at that warehouse.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
And Kennedy was visiting. And we went to the proper for dinner. Bless you. Bless you. Bless you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
I was babysitting, doing a bad job at it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
It's like we have like new friends and- What was your favorite night out we've ever had post-grad? Because I know mine.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Casamigos Halloween party on my birthday.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
It was the best night of my life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
I don't think I've ever actually ever had more fun in Los Angeles.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
There used to be this place in Los Angeles. It's not open anymore, but it was open until, like, 5 a.m. And, like, call time in Los Angeles, like, last call, it's 2 a.m. Like, that's when all the bars closed.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
It's honestly, like, some of LA's, like, biggest downfall. Is that, like? It is, because you can't go out really late. Who wants to go home at 2 a.m. ?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Yeah, I'm putting you on blast. Well, Justin just slept for four days while you were in Milan.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Five or seven is ideal. So it's like... Coffee. Thank you. It's just confusing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Oh, at Off Sunset. That was the best night ever.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
That was really, really fun. That was a really fun night.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
That you have to leave. Well, they told me.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Well, that's why I bought the bottle. They said, you can buy the bottle and we will not close.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Well, not only were they, like, lights on, they gave us the alcohol and paper cups. Do you remember that? To hide the fact that it was in vodka.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Like, it was actually diabolical.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Okay, are you ready for the tell me what's wrongs?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
I literally have a fear of newborns. I'm an aunt to many now adorable munchkins, but I was truly afraid of them when they were much smaller and alien-like. Whoa, mama. How can we appreciate them for the sweets they are? Motherhood isn't for everyone.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Like, I don't know what to say. What do you mean like you're scared of newborns?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
I will say there's nothing like an ugly baby. Like, that, like, is, like, I'm always, like, damn.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Like, you know what I mean? Like, when you see an ugly baby and you're, like, that's unfortunate.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
It's, like, they're fat and, like... Yeah, I guess you're right. Was Wes a cute baby?
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Yeah, I'm obsessed with Peyton's nephew.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
A little bit, huh? So we went to the Beverly Glen Pharmacy and- Yeah, next door.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
I think so too. How's it hanging mamas?
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
It's Tara. I'm having some problems with my sweet boy Charles. He won't stop throwing up on me and I'm extremely emet phobic.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
It sounds like a fear of throw up.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
I need help. Can't relate because our babies don't throw up on us.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Right, and also, like, I feel like they don't throw up for that long.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Agreed. My newborn baby was at my great aunt's house a few days ago and peed in her eye when she was changing him. She is blind in that eye now. What do I do? She's pissed.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
I also feel like especially if your aunt went blind after pee in the eye, like she definitely had eyesight problems beforehand.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Ever. It's the best pharmacy ever. They have jelly cats.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
When you were giving birth to Justin, did you shit on his head?
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Yeah, that's not my energy either.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Yeah, and his hat. Wait, that can't be. Does urine cause blindness in the eye?
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Does urine cause blindness in the eye? Google.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
Okay. It's an eye infection that affects the tissues or fluid inside of the eyeball. It is a medical emergency. If you have symptoms... Okay, there are two main types of it. This is the most common type of it. With this type, the source of infection comes from outside the body. Bacteria or fungi gets in the eye from surgery. Okay, this isn't correct because pee is sterile.
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Anything you could ever want, including children.
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Or you, mama. You're just trying your best. Why does no one tell you about the sounds baby make when they are first born? My daughter sounded like a literal goat for weeks. And in the middle of the night would wake me up from a deep sleep. Mama, we cannot relate.
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Alert, like they might sound like a goat.
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Oh, so obvious. OK, so like this is a complete sidetrack. But like I have to bring Bradley on tour.
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So what are we going to do when we separate them?
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They're going to miss bath time.
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I have a friend and her baby would bite her nipple while breastfeeding. So her mother told her to take the shit from the baby's diaper and put it on her nipple. So he'll stop. So she did it and it worked. It works for you, mama.
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Yeah, but I don't think I'm going to put the shit from their diaper on my nipple.
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Ooh. Hey, pussy princess. I saw my therapist on Tinder last night. I'm not going to lie. He's really hot. Should I swipe left, right, or straight into the abyss?
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Same. Same. All my therapists are women. I've never had a male therapist.
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Well I did actually have a male therapist for like once but he was homeopathic and it was super weird.
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Agreed. I can't have a hot male therapist ever. I do have a hot gay doctor kind of.
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Yeah, it was the hospital aisle.
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Which they're, oh, me too. My roommate keeps talking in her sleep and she even screams sometimes. It keeps waking me up, but somehow she never, it keeps waking me up, but somehow she never wakes up. It's not that, I'm not that close with her, but should I tell her? Mama, we can relate with the kids sometimes.
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And we discovered we were expecting.
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I snore and I have a deviated septum and I'm sick of this. You snore? So bad.
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Peyton said that part every time.
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That part. You're on therapist. Say hi.
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Shia, do you want to meet our babies? Shia, look. Look at. Look at the babies.
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Say all the pretty girls walk like.
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He doesn't like that anymore. I told you. Show him Bradley.
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Yeah, do you have any advice for the mamas out there?
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What's funny? I don't know. Kai would have better insight than I would.
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Well, we want data insight. Yeah, we want data insight. We have all the mamas here for our mom tribe, but we want some data insight.
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I really think it's just all about being a good partner, you know?
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That's not about... We're single mamas.
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Did Bradley come with anything? Bradley came with a hat, but he lost it.
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Yeah, so let's be fucking sensitive, please.
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I'm totally sensitive to it. I think that the single mamas have the hardest job on the planet.
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And people should bow down at their feet with the amount of work.
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That those single mamas are doing out there because they are doing the ward's work.
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And It is next to impossible, and I couldn't imagine doing it solo. So.
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Can you get Shia to say hi to Pia?
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He's fussy. He's way more fussy than Justin. Yeah. Which makes sense. Then we brought them. Well, we couldn't find a babysitter because we gave birth so last minute. So we went to a play that night with the kids.
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Yes. Can you say hi, Peyton? Oh, Pia said P-P. No, not P-P, Peyton. What? Shia!
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What? Oh, the baby. Shia, look. It's Bradley. Say hi, baby. Say hi, baby. What? Baby's eyes.
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Hey, Shia, can I have a bite of the apple? Oh, you're such a good mama. Can I have another bite, please? Can I have a bite? I'm hungry. You need a haircut, yeah. That's not what he said, Pat. Yeah, what?
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He's saying head, head. It's his head. It's the hair, the head.
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I don't think the hair. Yeah, you just made that up. You just made that up.
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He didn't say that. He didn't say that. If you're a good Dada, you know what your kid wants.
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Okay, bye, Dada. Bye, Dada. Bye, Shia. Bye, Shia. Bye. Bye. Wait, are you going to babysit the kid on tour? While Jake's on stage?
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His name's Bradley, first off. First off, it's Bradley. And what are you insinuating, Dada?
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Yeah, can I order like a little harness for him?
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Yeah, do you need diapers too and wipes and stuff? Yeah, and passies. All right, well, I only have size fives right now. Is that all right?
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Oh, wait, wait. I remember what we were going to say. Why the fuck is your flight at 4 p.m. tomorrow?
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And then we brought the kids to Nobu.
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Because I have to handle some stuff in the morning.
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Yeah, that's the most you thing ever.
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My kids to school and Miss Diane's. Okay, Dada. I'm being a good mama.
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Oh, whatever. We just got one. Well, are you going to get in for dinner, Mama?
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Yeah, I am. Even if I have to come to dinner with my luggage, I am coming to dinner.
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Yeah. Very important to us. We gave them rice and we put them in high chairs.
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Not actually a mama, but I'm a kindergarten teacher. Yes! And one of my kids told me I really need to start getting my life together and get a husband. Proceeding to tell me I looked prettier yesterday and I should never wear this sweater again. Anyway, any advice on dealing with mean kids?
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They're not meaning it. I know this sounds horrible, but the kid just has an opinion.
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You can't take that seriously. Also- They don't understand the nuances of relationships. Exactly. They don't understand. Yeah, they liked your sweater yesterday.
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Right. And the kid is telling you never wear the sweater again. It's not like, fuck you. It's like the kid is six. Like, oh, sweet. It's actually cute when the kid is rude.
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Exactly. I had a six-year-old cut me in line the other day. I said, excuse me. I did for the bathroom. I said, I have to pee.
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Yeah, the best vibe. She was obsessed with the kids.
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This is a toughie. What was the hardest thing about giving birth? Would you do it again from Susie K?
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I, on one hand, was like epidural now. Yeah.
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If you're going to be pregnant with your friend.
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Yeah, and, like, plan your due date so it's the same like we did.
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Obviously, ours happened very fast. Like, ours happened, like, at the Beverly Glen Pharmacy. We had to give birth right then and there.
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When did you end up getting the epidural?
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And then you took the. Can you take Xanax when you're pregnant or giving birth?
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What was, so I would say that was probably the scariest part for you. The scariest part for me.
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The scariest part for me was like, I think just the anticipation.
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Yeah. I also have a question. Oh, ask away.
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Could you imagine? I don't know. You would know.
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How did you guys arrive at the names? The names? Mm-hmm.
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And Bradley's after Bradley Cooper.
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It was super easy. Well, Justin came very quick to pay in, and I was really jealous because I really like the name Justin, but then I came up with Bradley.
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They're a hit. People love the kids.
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Do you have any other questions?
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Do you guys have any, like, hopes and dreams for your kids? Of course.
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We just want them to be happy. College or no college.
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He'll be on skates when he's about one and a half. Bradley will be in theater.
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Like, Justin's going to be in hockey like Bradley's going to be in theater.
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Yeah. Hope everything is doing okay with you and your little ones. I know postpartum can be a rocky road. I was wondering if you have any tips on latching. XOXO newborn mama.
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I mean, Bradley took so fucking long to latch. I can't even get into it.
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Mama nothing I'm just like Like I can't believe We're mamas Sometimes it's like Still so hard to talk About like the
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Yeah. So we brought the nipple cream to the hospital.
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I mean, talk about a FYP. Come on.
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My babies are a little older than yours, ages three and five, and just will not eat.
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Yeah, toddlers, not babies. And just will not eat. How do you guys think I should, actually, there always are babies. How do you guys think I should get them to eat something more than just pasta and chicken fingers?
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Asking us about the kids. I don't think we encountered anyone rude about the kids.
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My baby's nose is super runny, but I can't get behind using one of the things that you put in your mouth to suck the snot out of the baby's nose. Have any suggestions on what else to use?
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No, they don't. We didn't have anyone that was like nasty about it, I would say.
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Hey mama, so proud of y'all. I had a friend ask me to use my breast milk that I pumped for my child. Is it selfish to keep my own breast milk for my baby? I know it takes a village, but I can't feed the whole village with these boobs. They're tired, lol.
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It's also not fair for your friend to be like, let me use your breast milk. Like your baby needs your breast milk.
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Yeah, but when we protect our piece, we're popping.
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Okay, mama, what did we learn today?
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Yeah, which is so good to know.
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It doesn't. It seriously doesn't.
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I would have been nasty right back.
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We went to Nobu the same night we gave birth.
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Like always remember that you're a good mama even if you take care of yourself.
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Like we've been doing that a lot. Get your mom tribe.
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And, like, yeah. Okay, well, Mama, hey, thanks for coming on Therapist.
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I love you more, Mama. Bye, pussies.
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He slayed and he shook. It's Therapist, Therapist, Therapist, Therapist.
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Moms deserve to have fun too. And we're allowed to drink wine when our kids are there.
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Found them at – well, I guess that wouldn't make sense with our birthing story. But we found them at the Beverly Glen Pharmacy, and we will get into that in the episode. I love when my best friends come on because it's just like we're just hanging out, and you guys get to watch. I am still on tour. It is amazing. I'm having the best time.
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Session 64: Motherhood with Payton Purther
It was mom's night out with the kids.
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But so then Peyton went to Milan and I went to Aspen. So we did put the kids to sleep for four days.
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Some people say their kids like wake up every hour, like not ours.
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Yeah. Which is super, super lucky.
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No. So pay, what are you therapist about today?
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Well, I'm pissed that you're not caught up with paradise.
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Have you really? Yeah. Did you only watch the first two episodes? Yeah. So, Pei, Julia, and I started Paradise on Hulu.
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It's the best show we've ever seen in our lives.
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And it's amazing. It's about, well, we can't, the best part about Paradise is we can't even tell you what it's about because you just have to watch it.
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Damn, it's so good pain and it only gets better. And this last episode was about... What episode are you on? Seven. I just finished episode seven.
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Next week is the finale. So you have to catch up.
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I'm sure you don't want to talk about... Okay.
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She said he smelled like bad breath, and he drank eight dirty martinis in 20 minutes.
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And then Julia got upset, so she left.
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I could have told you. I knew that this was going to happen.
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If you still don't have tickets to Live with Jake Shane, go to pastthatpuss.com and click Live with Jake Shane to see if there's a show near you. It is so much fun. They're singing. There's audience participation. It's just, I have the best, best time doing this. And I want all of you guys to be able to come. But yeah, enjoy the episode, pussies. I love you. Hi, pussies. Welcome back to Therapist.
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What do you mean? What do you mean?
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What else did he say he didn't like?
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That is super valid. I do that always, every time.
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Wait, hold on, hold on. Change our flights to where? I'm confused.
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Yeah, because you were in Paris.
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Escargot. Yes. Yes, I do love escargot.
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It's just heavy. It's really heavy.
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Okay, well, and then you guys were in France, and what, you smoke cigarettes now?
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I mean, I guess postpartum does things.
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Should we not order? Should we go? It sounds so good.
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It is my favorite meal in LA. Will and Charlie want to come.
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I know, me too. When are you coming? Detroit?
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I know. We have to figure out what we're doing after. Yeah.
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And I know you guys have been waiting for this episode. Me and Pei are, it's our mama tribe. And we are here with our kids, Justin and Bradley. And we are here to talk to you guys about all things mama.
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Your mom bought front row seats.
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She didn't even ask me for tickets. She just bought front row seats with Sage.
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She said that Sage wanted the best view.
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I know. I don't know why. The second episode of White Lotus.
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Episode two of season three is so much better than episode one, I think.
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Would you prefer to go to the White Lotus Hotel in Thailand, Italy, or Hawaii?
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I agree. I would want to do Italy.
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Yeah, but it's like, one thing about us is, like, if we're going somewhere, like, there needs to be nightlife.
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Because my thing is, like, if we're out on vacation and there's not a club, like, and we're not drinking, like.
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Why are we there? Like, I'd rather just lay in my backyard.
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Yeah, like, that's my thing. It's like, I do need nightlife wherever we go.
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You will be. I want to be, like, unconscious. Do you have a favorite birthday out of all your birthdays?
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That's not... Well, no, the thing is, I actually, like, had a grand old time. But I would say, like, my favorite... What did we do this year?
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Okay, my favorite birthday of yours... Honestly, I really loved your birthday after freshman year of college.
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When we went to that amusement park and then we went jumping off the lake.
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A year. And I never got home with you.
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All things motherhood and all things mom life.
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Do you miss Michigan? Michigan has the best vibes. Do you want to raise Justin in Michigan?
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Okay. For how long? Like, probably, like, What do we do? Oh, Peyton and I want to go on a date. Honestly, should we put this as a call out for anybody interested? Straight and gay duos.
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We want to go on a double date. A straight guy and a gay guy or bisexual. I'm not picky.
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Yeah. If you're a boy. Exactly. If you are interested in either of us and you're friends with each other, take us on a date.
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Well, we've been secretly planning double dates. So like we'll plan dates on the same night and like at the same place. Like Peyton will tell me where she's going and then like I'll suggest it to whoever I'm talking to.
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Are we, what are you listening to right now? Just Tate?
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We had, okay. Shuffle. So the weekend that we got, we gave birth, we got, Tate sent us the album because I was having Tate on Therapist the following week. So she sent it to me to listen to before, and so we spent that entire weekend listening to it.
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Yeah. So basically we went out. We went out.
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But we paid and refused to drive unless it was playing.
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I would say our best drive with that song was probably on the way to the play with the kids.
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
What are other times that you've had like really bad imposter syndrome?
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Right. Right. Right. But isn't that so cool that you have that effect on someone? It, It makes me sick. I don't know. It makes me sick, too.
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Yeah. But, like, I think... What has like, I feel like junior year, like you were doing social media your junior year, but I feel like it changed a lot from junior to senior.
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I actually feel like I never really see you nervous. Really? No, I just lied.
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I feel like this summer was like the major shift. Well, how has junior year been different or how has senior year been different than junior year in terms of like, just like work and everything and school?
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
you know i love a friday episode drop and who better to do it with than one of my best friends ashton earl i am so proud of her i love her so much getting to know her over this past year has been such a joy and i know you guys already know her but if you don't i am so excited for you guys to get to know her more I have some of my most fun nights and some of my most fun weekends with her.
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
You are always nervous. Wait, so how was Sunday of Coachella?
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And I just remember seeing you everywhere. No, no, no, no, no. It wasn't the week brat came out. It was, you know, it was a few weeks before I met you at Coachella. Oh, really? That's when I started to feel the shift. And I thought you were like the coolest person ever. And I remember like I came up to you and I was like, do you remember we were behind each other?
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
And I was like, oh, I'm so nice to finally meet you. I think you're the coolest person in the world. I feel like I was so rude to you when we met. You, what?
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I think you have rudeness dysmorphia. You were super lovely.
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
No, you were super lovely. We literally hung out the entire night. And then the week Brat came out, we were in the New York the same weekend and I messaged you. We did party together. Are you going to be at this thing? You were like, yes, are you going to be at this thing? And I was like, Yes, and we hung out the entire weekend. I'm so happy you messaged me.
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I know, because I was like, I feel like she's going to go. I don't know if she's going to go. Whatever, and I just pulled the trigger, and I'm so happy I did. So grateful for that. Because then we had the best weekend of our lives. That was the best weekend of our lives.
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
That weekend changed the trajectory of my entire life.
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
That was what I liked. That was my brat weekend. Yeah. That was the peak of brat.
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Then we flew to the Hamptons. Wow. When people ask me what my brat summer was like, I always think of that weekend.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Wow. That was like the best weekend ever. And then Alex's boat thing was on like a Sunday.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
And we still all, that was the funniest night of my life. Because your friend Gianna was like my favorite personal planner.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
She was making me cry laughing that night. I don't know why. It was just like her cadence of the way she was speaking to me was like so fucking funny. It reminded me of my best friend Cassidy. Like everything she was saying was making me hoo-ha. Like I was hysterics at this girl. Oh, I miss her.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Wait, so you saw that was opening night of Brat, right? It was the first time she performed Brat. What was that like?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I remember seeing the videos of you dancing on like tables there. And I was like, oh, this is a vibe.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
She was just like chilling at the after party with you guys.
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Was it fun? It was cool. Like there's a lot of cool people there. Did you meet Terry? No. You'd love him.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
He... Terry O'Connor. Yeah. He... You should shoot with him sometime. He's super, super talented.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
He's amazing. But... What... That... Brat... That... Also, like, I loved the album, but I remember, like... Seeing, I don't know, like, that just, I remember that concert specifically was, like, so, that was the kickoff to Brat Summer.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Because I remember, like, that's where, like, all the Brat Summer shit started.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
It was, yes. You just said that. And, um, God, I'm so jealous you went.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Do you have, like, the, what is, like, your most favorite concert you've ever been to? Because I know mine.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Like, Charlie at Coachella was so good. Charlie at Coachella. When she did the very end where it was like, I guess this mean brat summer is officially over. And then she was like, who am I? So good. That was just so.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
But I think she's like dealing with this thing of like, she wants it to be over. I mean, she literally wrote it out. She's like, I want it to be over, but I don't know who I am without it. She, like, wants this moment to, I don't know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
She's just the coolest girl in the world. That's literally me. She's the coolest girl in the world.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
When she, when they, when, cause they did the, you walk like a bitch thing and they walked down. It was so fucking sick. I also loved when, who else did she bring out? It was, it was Billy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
She's your number one artist. Have you seen her concert live?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Every concert I see at first gets better and better and better and better.
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Okay, so who was your favorite set that you saw all weekend?
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Mine's watch. And Billy says that's like the song she hates the most.
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Yeah. She's like, I hate that fucking song. And that song, that song got me through some shit. Really? Yes. That's all that got me through hell. I fucking love that song.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Okay, we're just going to have to say Charlie XCX for the sake of this episode because I miss Gaga.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
It was right after you broke up with your boyfriend.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
It ran its course. But it was hard. Your sophomore year?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
You guys, spring and festival season is upon us, and so is summer. And what would make spring, festival season, and summer even more fun? A love interest. Whether it be a crush or someone you are seeing, Tinder has it all, okay? The thing I have learned about dating apps is that you never know if you don't try, okay? And then my favorite part about Tinder is when you like someone...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
They can't see if you like them. They will only see if they like you back and it's a match. So there's really nothing to lose. You know what I mean? And like, I feel like we're in the day and age where people are so embarrassed to put themselves out there, but Tinder really does make it so easy to do that. It's like shooting your shot and the shot can only go in.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Also, you guys know I'm in my dating era. I'm really trying to put myself out there and Tinder does just make it so accessible to comfortably put myself out there because I'm not like embarrassed if they don't like me back. You know what I mean? Like I've just, I'll, ignorance is bliss. Also, like what I've always dreamed of is a summer love fling.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
And I know that hopefully I can find one on Tinder. And the only way to find that is to swipe right. But it starts now on Tinder. It's never been easier to find a summer fling. All you have to do is swipe right. Thank you, Tinder, for sponsoring tonight's episode. Explore all the possibilities for yourself on Tinder. It starts with a swipe. Download Tinder today.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Oh, you reminded me about Phoebe Bridgers this winter, and I was like, fuck, I need a new album from her desperately. I know. It's been like, what, five years? Has it been? Yeah, since Punisher, it's been five years, and I love that album.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Not that I've heard of. But, like, I'm sure she is. I'm excited for Lorde.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Do they do like an ID? Isn't that what the DJs call it? Like an ID? Like a song that they play that they like do live? Like, Nevermind.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I need Lorde. Well, because Charlie said it's a Lorde summer, which means Lorde is coming very soon.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Oh, yeah, on June 8th or something? Mm-hmm. I think this summer is going to be amazing for music.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
And then because last summer was amazing, those people that released last summer are also going to release next summer. So we're just like... It's just going to keep... It's never ending.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
It's never ending good music. Well, I feel like we're in an era where there's so much music output right now. There's like... Because it's like streaming, so everyone needs to keep putting out, putting out, putting out.
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Me too. And I think... I just love it. I'm so fucking excited for, um, what's her name's Lords album.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
But I know it's coming. Wait, Charlie said like it's a Lord summer, which means it's coming for summer.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
What is the date she announced? Lana always picks a date and then ignores it. But I want to say she picked June something. It's not going to be June. It's going to be like July or August. But like I need it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I like it a lot. Like, I want her. She said it's a country album. Like, I want some twang in there.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Like, I want some Lana twang. Like, I think she could kill it. You know who I really want to return to country really badly? Who? I know she won't. Taylor.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
You know what? Actually, I just came up with this in my mind. I think for her 13th album, she's going to go back to country.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
You heard it here first. TS13 is going to be country because TS12 is confirmed pop. She's working with like Max Martin, who's my literal favorite producer of all time. And she's working with like all these like major pop producers. So I know TS12 is going to be pop. I think TS13 is going to be country and I think it will. When Taylor Swift goes back to country, it will rock the world.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Did they do like anything, like something you haven't heard before that you were like, okay. Like when I saw Jamie XX live, like he did like a remix of don't you want me baby that like he doesn't have on streaming services, but like you could like maybe find on SoundCloud.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
It will rock the world. Speaking of rocking the world, did you feel the earthquake today?
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Can you bring me? You, you will get invited on your own. Like they are, but yes, but they are the most fun I've ever had in my entire life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
And now that you're moving into, but now that you're moving to New York, they happen while SNL is like on season. Like they happen every Saturday night and they go until like seven in the morning.
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And one time I went to one and I looked up at the sky cause it was like at a bar that was half indoor, half outdoor. And it was just like so bright out. And I was like, life is awesome.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I don't think I've ever, I think I think I'm, like, the coolest person in the world every time the sun rises. I know that there was one time where I was, like, oi, like, I gotta go home. Yeah. Like, this isn't it for me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
But, like, my thing is, is, like, I know this sounds so lame, and I know I'm not that old. I know I'm not old, but I really wish I was 22 again. I'm so jealous that you get to experience 22. It seriously was like, nothing matters.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I think you literally came to Coachella right after.
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
What was the vibe at your birthday party? What was the theme again? It was like- Burlesque. Burlesque, right. Yeah. And what- You first.
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No, but you are not the first person I've heard say that.
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Okay. I think I'm okay. Well, I can't watch it tonight because I'm watching. Have you ever seen The Leftovers?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Okay, so it's basically, it's the only show, I'm so hyper fixated on the show. Have you seen The Leftovers? Oh my God. I am so hyper fixated on the show right now. It's basically about if the, wait, I totally just interrupted your story about what your birthday party theme was.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
It's technically day four of Coachella. Don't worry.
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Really good. That sounds amazing. It was really good. I loved it. I wish I saw them. The reason I left that festival so early Saturday is because I was so anxious about getting to that after party. Yeah. When I just shouldn't have been.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Did you do this on a Sunday? Yeah, I did this on a Sunday. Why did you do it? Because I was like, oh, she's doing it on Sunday because her birthday was on Sunday. But then your birthday was on Monday.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Oh, because you did it to turn midnight understood. Because I'm in that mindset of like people, did everyone go out on that Sunday?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
When you throw a party and everyone texts you the next day being like, I have never been so drunk. It's like actually the greatest feeling in planet earth.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
What is it? Ashtini again. It's just, you gave it to me in Miami.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Got it. Totally. Right. I was like, because you gave me them that night. We went out in Miami and I blacked out. And I was like, why did I black out so hard? It was Ashtini.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
You too. And I will say blacking out on a Sunday is one of the, is God's gift to this earth.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
No, but every time I've gone out on a Sunday, it's like such a send. Like it's such a full send. It's like, it's Sunday. Like we've made the move to go out. We're taking this all the way.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Yeah, I made them go to the car and sit in the car because we couldn't show up too early, but we couldn't show up too late. So we sat in the car with the AC on for 30 minutes because I was so scared about... Because I feel like when I'm with, like, you and, like, Alex and co, like, Alex, like, just, like, marches her way to the front and, like, figures it out, but I can't do that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
The worst feeling in the entire world is when the night is ending and you don't want it to end.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
And I felt it. I was like, fuck, I feel this night dying down and I'm so upset. And then when Alex and Kristen went home, I was like, stop. We can do this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Okay. So I want to tell you about the leftovers because it's the best show I've ever seen currently. Sorry. It's not the best show I've ever seen, but like, It's amazing.
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Okay, so what is The Rapture? I keep burping into this mic. Can you hear it? Can you hear it? Can any of you guys hear it? I'm getting really insecure about it. You can hear it? Nolan, you are going to have to cut that out. I'm not fucking kidding because I can hear it every time. Are you going to be able to cut it out? I'm seriously going to kill myself. No, leave it in. No, you can't.
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
No, it's like... It actually happens once a minute.
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I would. I seriously would. So what is the rapture again?
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Okay, so the leftovers is basically like... Okay, so... 160 million people disappear from like the, have you ever seen Avengers Endgame?
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Oh my God. Okay. You need to see Avengers Endgame. Have you? Okay. You guys are all, you can't do this. Um, so basically 160 million people like disappear off the face of the earth. It's like if we were talking right now and like somebody just like, and you just like vanish into thin air. Oh, okay. And I just burped again. Cool. And I'm literally, do I take something for this? Like, Nice.
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
And so, it was, like, the end of the world. And it's basically about a town three years later, like, recovering from the rapture.
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
The Leftovers is amazing. And I'm on... So, there's only three seasons. And I love a three-seasoner. Like, I love a three-seasoner. Like, Dark on Netflix, which is German, also only three seasons. So, I'm on season three, episode seven of The Leftovers. And, like, I... I'm so excited to finish it tonight is all I'm trying to say.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Well, don't worry. I can't hear it because everyone can hear mine. I think that's all I had to say about the leftovers. Okay, Ashton, what are you a therapist about?
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I know. I can tell you what I'm a therapist about.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I have these pre-made meals and I never eat them. And I always fucking end up ordering food. I always end up ordering because I always get this weird craving for something.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I was going to have the chicken teriyaki over like a broccoli rice blend or something.
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
And I had Chipotle. Yeah. With disgusting hot honey chicken. It was so bad.
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So, like, if there's a line... Like, my night's over. Like, essentially. You know what I mean? And I was nervous that there was going to be a line, so I just, like, had to get there early.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Well, that's the point of therapist. There's no helping involved.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I'm also pissed that I took a nap because I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Back to Me. So good. Amazing. I just thought she had great stage presence too. Dude, yeah. Did you catch any of Clara?
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I was smoking a cigarette and like, and it wasn't packed. And I was just like. Vibing. Vibing and like roaming free. And like, it was perfect. But then we left a little early and I missed bags, which I'm super upset about. I know. But I also just love Clara. You met her at that after party.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Because I was like, I know how much we both love her. And she was right there. And like, she's just the, she's so fucking awesome. And like the nicest person ever.
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And, like, her aura. Like, you know when someone's aura is just, like, so cool? She's so cool. That's her to me. So you're a therapist that you went to bed at 6.30 in the morning.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
You were really wanting to see Beltran. I was really wanting to see Beltran.
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
And Braxton. Me, too. Because, well, Braxton really figures it out. Braxton always takes care of everything. How does he do that?
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
But his set looked amazing. I was so sad that I missed it. I really wanted to go too.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Which was great, but I missed Disco Lines. I'm really upset about it. I also kind of wanted to see The Dare.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Also, I would just like to say something I'm not therapist about and therapist about is that you brought me home. You said you were going to bring me home your Dutch bros and you did.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
And I saw you guys at Dutch Bros and I was like, holy fuck, please get me something. And this is everything I could have wanted.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Dutch Bros is very sweet. It is very, very, very sweet.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
You know, I've never been to your guys' place in New Jersey. Rook? Never. It is the best coffee in the entire world. I've never been. Can you just please come to New Jersey? I've also never been to your house.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I need to come. I need to come and see everything and hang out with TJ and do the whole to-do.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
While you were gone, I decided that I think, similar to you and your sister, I think I'm going to start doing Day in the Life's.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Today was not an average day. Today I woke up. I worked out.
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
You know what? I need to do a day in the life. You do. I worked out. I got home. I got Erewhon for breakfast slash lunch. I had that. I sat down. I watched The Leftovers. I got an IV. Fell asleep. Woke up. watched more Leftovers, got Chipotle and I'm now doing this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
But I think I was explaining to her my week and I think I need to do a day in the life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
And then people are like, oh. That's what I am thinking too. When she was just saying like, you should do one. I was like, but I don't do anything. And then I started talking about my day and I was like, even I'm interested in my own day. I was like, maybe I should do this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I think I have some of my most fun weekends with you.
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Like I think I think it would make me feel more confident because like I if I have like a date, maybe I'll. Well, hey, this is like all goes back. I don't want someone to send me the person I go on the date with to be like you're going on a date and you just did it. You know what I mean?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
What? I'm trying to think of, like, all the weekends we've had together.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Right. What else was I going to say? There was something else I was going to say.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I have this friend and I told her last night that I really like this guy, but I was too nervous to make the first move. We both have classes with him and I constantly think about how cute he is. Well, the other day she texted me and was like, OMG, he's so cute. I need to hop on that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I was so angry because she does this to a lot of guys that I or my friends like and I don't know what to do about it. It's a canon event.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
We've had... The weekend in summer. We had two weekends in summer.
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Like, it's just... But I feel like I've learned with age that that is all insecurity.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
It's like in a similar, no, it's like in a similar sense to how someone's, like, competitive about school or a job. It's just, like, another sense of, like, competitiveness. And, like, when you're competitive, like,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
It's not a... I'm very competitive in a lot of senses. And, like, I... But I know that, like, a lot of it stemmed from my insecurities. Like, I wouldn't be so competitive in things if I wasn't so insecure. It's like... I don't know. Is that a weird take? I feel like that's, like, a proper take.
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Because if I'm trying to beat someone at something, it's because I'm not secure in, like, my, how I, what I'm doing.
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And, like, see what she has to say. But, like, once again, it's a canon event.
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
And then what else did we have? We had Aspen. We had Coachella. We definitely had more. We have more.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I prescribe girls so confusing V-Train Lord. Ugh.
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Cause like girl, so confusing. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like I think, I think that's like the perfect song for that because like, it's like miscommunication and like, it's, it's, it's not like, I'm not like excusing this girl's actions.
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Cause, but like if you view it from like a more empathetic standpoint, like I think, uh, like sometimes your point gets across better as opposed to like an aggressive standpoint.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I don't ever take that approach, but that's my advice. That's really good advice. No, I never take my own advice, but that is my advice.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I punched my best friend's cheating boyfriend in the face. She's so pissed, even though I think I did the right thing. She says it wasn't my place. Am I a bad person?
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Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Like my life was, she's iconic. My life was fucking changed. I was like, and she, she's so funny. I don't know why she, she's like, I don't know why I make you laugh so hard. She makes me hoo-ha. Like, cause she's so. I love how you say hoo-ha. Will says it all the time. Cause she's so casual about it. She's like, yeah, I did that.
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And I'm like, what? She's insane. Like, I'm like, what do you mean? No, but I don't think this person's a bad person at all. I think if my, someone punched my cheating boyfriend. Maybe I'd be upset in the moment because sometimes you're blinded by love. Yeah. That's a fucking loyal friend.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I've never been cheated on either because as we know, never had a boyfriend. I feel like I need a never had a boyfriend counter because I say it at least once an episode. But yeah, I've also never been cheated on. I don't know what I would prescribe for that. Maybe go watch Alex's content from when she dumped a drink on that guy in Key West because she didn't give a fuck.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I'm in a love triangle with my on and off again boyfriend of five years and his friend who I barely know but who wants me bad. I'm crashing out. I don't know if I can juggle this. I need a prescription bad.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I think they're, like... indecisive about it, I feel like I would prescribe challengers.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I've never seen challengers, but I know that that's what that entails.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Yeah, Peyton and Julia are like, they've never been so addicted to a show in their lives.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
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Key West. Key West. That was the most insane 24 hours of my entire life. That was so much fun. I don't know how you guys do it. Partying with you guys takes years off my lifespan. Same. No, but you like, you don't get, do you get down bad? You get down bad in silence.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Really? Yeah. Do you watch Tell Me Lies too? Yes. I love Tell Me Lies.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Is it so wrong that I think Steven's the hottest person on God's green earth?
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Like everything about him is, oh my God, like I can't handle it.
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Me, more than anything in the world actually. More than anything in the world. I would prescribe, what is it? Was this the love triangle? Oh, yeah. I would prescribe Challengers, The Vampire Diaries, The Summer I Turned Pretty, anything with a love triangle involved. The Hunger Games. Oh, that's a good one. I love The Hunger Games. Twilight. I haven't seen that in a while.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
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And like, relate to the protagonist of that movie and you'll feel like a bad bitch.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I'm talking to a guy from Norway while he is studying here in the US. I fear I'm catching feelings, but he is leaving to go home soon. Is it stupid to keep talking to him?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
He was Dutch. Danish? I'm really stupid, so I really don't. He was. I have a secret tattoo my parents don't know about. They're not against tattoos, but they'll judge me financially. Should I tell them or keep hiding it?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
She is truly just so wonderful and so kind and so humble. And it is just the beginning of her career. And I'm so proud of her. And I love her so much. We talk... about Coachella and all the memories we've shared, and it's a really, really fun episode. We were a little dead. We filmed it literally the Monday getting back from Coachella, so we were dead.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Who cares? As long as it was your money, who cares?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Tattoos are so cool. I just don't think I could ever get one. I think I know. I don't think it suits my little leprechaun look.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I would literally be like, try to rub it off my skin.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I once tricked my mom that I got a tattoo when I was in fourth grade. Fourth grade. And she hysterically sobbed. Please don't say you have a tattoo. I was like, Jesus Christ. But I got that I was in fourth grade.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I was like a truth or dare from my neighbor. They're like, tell your mom. No, no, it wasn't a tattoo. It was my ears pierced. It was my ears pierced. And I said, I got my ears pierced. And she like was checking them and was like, oh, like crying. I was like, whoa, was it like that deep? Like my ears pierced. Imagine me with my ears pierced. Like there's just certain things I shouldn't do.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Girl. Oh, I would prescribe the song Tattoo by Jordan Sparks, which I've done prior.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Okay, great. He didn't know Jordan Sparks. Isn't that crazy?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
My boyfriend and I are going to college seven hours away from each other. We've been dating for almost a year and a half. Oh my God, this is perfect for you to give advice on. And I just don't know if I should break up with him or try to make it work.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I feel like you struggle. Dude. I came home yesterday. Like I came home yesterday. I was so down. I mean, you, you could have seen the way I was behaving Saturday night and known that I was going home the next day.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Like, I don't think that's such a loser thing to say.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I agree. I feel like from my personal experience of seeing people do this, like I will I would break up. And I just get to experience like, I don't know, a little bit of college single.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Is that like a thing? Like, do you get like love blindness?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
What does it feel like when you get love blindness?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Me, too. Jill. Jake and Love. I would prescribe the song Tis the Damn Season by Taylor Swift. Have you ever heard that song? Oh. It's about high school sweethearts that come back together. Do you know that song? It's literally the best song ever. It's one of my all-time favorite Taylor Swift songs. It's about high school lovers that come back to their town during winter break and rekindle.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
You can't relate to Tis the Damn Season if you don't break up. Me and my roommate are friends with these two people who are in a situationship for the third time in a year. They end things and always get back together. And sometimes we feel like we are doing them a disservice when they ask us about the other and we have to be supportive.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I was always taught to not get involved in other people's relationships.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
And this person seems like they are deep in that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
No, seriously. Prescribe normal people. I fucking love that show. That show ruined me. Have you ever seen the show One Day? No. Before you watch The Leftovers, you have to watch One Day. Have you seen One Day? That show wrecked my life. So it's basically about these two people and it's 10 episodes. Each episode is the same day a year apart for 10 years.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
So it's like if we had a show and it was today and then a year later on the same exact day, the next episode would be that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
And it's their love story. It's really moving. Wow. Did you hear that, Burt?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
The whole night. You kept being like, this is the best night ever. It was the best night ever. Also the best part of that night. Okay, well, I would say the best part of that night was that when we were all first dancing. But then when everyone went home and we thought the night was over and we were super anxious, but then the dance floor filled up again. Yeah. But that was short-lived.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Ew. Our friend thinks she's in love with this absolutely horrible human being. She literally thinks that she found the one. How do we tell her that she deserves better without us seeming like the bad guys? Help us.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Yeah. I think tell me lies too. I would say you put it out there, and if they don't listen to you, then you've done your service as a friend.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
You can't save someone for themselves. You really can't. And speaking of myself, too, if someone sets their eyes on something and they want it, that's it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
It's really, it's bleak today. Yeah. I've learned that it's the Monday after Coachella. And we were still able to do this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I'm proud of us too. I've learned that maybe we're moving to London together.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I've learned that maybe we're moving to London together. I've learned that I'm, well, I've known this, that I'm very excited for your post-grad journey. And that I think you should go on a Europe trip with your friends. Yes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Oh, yes. I am going to start doing day in my life. I have to. You have to. Okay. But should I do it like you or should I do it like Alex? Like, should I do the voiceover or should I just do that? I think I should do the voiceover.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I love your day in my life. Thank you. I love how you do them.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I know. And I think that's what makes them better.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Thanks for coming on. It's been a long time coming. I know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Well, we're going to do it again. Okay. And again and again.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
People were. Well, when we were on it, no one was on it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
But you know what the best night ever with you was? What? Aspen. Night two. That was so much fun. That was the best night of my life. I don't think we stopped dancing once.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I know. I love dancing with you too. And all your friends were there.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
We also had New Orleans together. I totally forgot about that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Damn. We really have had, I've been in like every state with you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
We're just traveling. Ugh. I feel like there's so many things I didn't ask you because I wanted to save for the podcast. Okay. So what are you in LA for this week?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Wait, so what do you want to do tomorrow? I don't know. Want to get dinner?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
You didn't see me flirting with that guy all night.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Well, I think so. I kind of, this was the thing. I don't know how, how do you go about this with hot mess? We're like, I want to talk about my love life, but like, I don't want guys to send it to me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I care so much. But that guy was the guy was flirting with the entire night is taking me out on a date.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Sushi somewhere, which is bad because I'm the messiest eater with sushi.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Thank you. You know what? We really, really, really aligned for this because I said I was going to ask you about DJs because I've never been to DJs.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I wanted to come for Memorial Day weekend, but I can't.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I have a show in Vegas on Saturday. Wait, but isn't Memorial weekend Sunday and Monday too?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
But it's very funny, and I'm really excited for you guys to see it. Last night, I literally finished The Leftovers, and I'm now in the market for a new TV show. I'm super, super devastated. I think I'm going to maybe watch the new Black Mirror. But I also think I'm going to watch Veep. I don't really know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Wait. So, but... Okay. When you go back to Tulane, I assume you're going back this Wednesday? Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Do you think people would party in New Orleans on Easter? Like, I feel like you guys find any excuse to party at Tulane.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Okay, so you're going to be 22 for like the first half of post-grad. You're going to love it. I'm so excited. 22 was like the most fun year of my life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Okay, so you're doing New York after college. So when are you planning to move, June?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Honestly, I could use some ideas because I have a weekend of four day span when I'm in France that I can go somewhere and I'm deciding where to go. And I wanted to do Ibiza, but I had a panic attack about it this morning.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I had a freak. I literally woke up and I was like, I can't go to Ibiza. Why? Because can you imagine me in Ibiza? Wait, you, we have to go together though. I am someone who, when I go out, like I take the words of like, I am never going out again. So fucking literally. Like I woke up yesterday and I was like, never again. And like, I meant it. Every word of it. Never again.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Like I'm never doing that again. So obviously when I woke up this morning again, I was like, I can't go to Ibiza. Like, what are we talking about? I can't go to fucking Ibiza. And so I canceled Ibiza.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I can't decide if I want to continue down the dark route and do Black Mirror or do comedy and watch Veep. I think I can't decide. For the first time, I think I'm going to do comedy. Also, Hacks is back. Thank God. But yeah, it's Friday. Happy Friday. I love you pussies and enjoy the episode. Hi pussies! Welcome to Therapist, one of my best friends, Ashton Earle. Hey Ashy. Hi. Are you nervous?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Well, I've never gone out there, but I know how fun it is.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Yeah. Me and Julie were supposed to share an apartment in London. Oh my God.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Yes. No. Yes, I would. I would absolutely do a year in London with you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
We have to go when Chiltern Firehouse isn't on fire anymore.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
For like a year. Have you been before to Chiltern? I've never had more fun in my life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Like four weeks ago. It happened like... Wait, that's tragic. I know. And it's like shut down for the year or like something.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
And I see you wanting to like move around after you do New York for a year.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Are you... So who's going to be... Are a bunch of your friends doing New York after?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Oh, back to the lost phone. So have you only ever lost your phone abroad?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
So the first time I lost it. I blacked out and woke up with a gash in my head and no phone.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Three blocks away from my apartment. But you found it? Yep. I made Peyton drive me at six in the morning. I woke up. I said, Peyton, I'm free. This is why I can't like be adventurous and go out alone. Bad things happen. Like I was alone that night. You were alone? Yes. Why? Ashton. I used to be so adventurous. Okay. I used to go out four times a week.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Like I know you would never guess it now, but like I really did. Like I did that back in the day.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Then I don't know what happened. Oh, I think I started smoking a lot of weed and I was like, I can't do this anymore.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Speaking of non-Hermit-like things, though, you were just on the cover of Vogue. Can you tell me what that was like, please? Because I never got to ask you about that, really.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
I also was like, wait, what? When I opened up my phone to it, literally my jaw hit the floor.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Do you have the print copy in your house? No, I don't. I need to get it. Are you excited? Was it like when you were shooting it, were you like, did it only feel real when it, sometimes with that stuff, I feel like, does it only feel real when it like goes live and you're like, okay, it's real.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
Seriously. It was the coolest thing I've ever seen.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 69: Ashtin Earle
It was perfect. It was the shot. The shot they chose was perfect.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
Hi, pussies. Welcome back to Therapist. Happy Valentine's Day. Sorry, I am so cold. It is very cold and rainy in Los Angeles, but, you know, we need the rain. It's a good thing, so thank God. I am once again single this Valentine's Day. I've never experienced a Valentine's Day taken, but Peyton and I are going to go out to dinner with the kids, so we're really excited.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
I get more scared of, tell me if you feel the same way. Like when you were anxious, were you more scared that like how it was going to be received or like if people were going to care, like I get really anxious that people aren't going to care about the stuff I put out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
I just, there's something like as someone, you grew up on the internet. Of course. As someone who grew up on the internet, something about it today, it feels like it's a lot more like, like it's like they're, like stabbing you, but like kind of nicely. Like, do you know what I mean? It's a lot like being really mean is normalized under the guise that like you're morally correct about something.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
First of all, I also will say that feeling when it hits a different algorithm, I always find to be, it never stings for me. Cause I know that it's a different, I know that that's not who I'm, I don't care. You know, like I'm not, I don't like, like I'm not like, that's not the audience I'm trying to reach. That's not my audience. And I know what I'm doing. It's not going to resonate with them.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
When it stings the most for me is when someone who I want to reach is kind of like, is like, fuck this. You know what I mean? I'm like, ugh, I don't know. The internet's a, it's a really, really tough place.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
MySpace. I was never on MySpace, but Tumblr was my shit.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
No, you can do it. How, like, I – Fun fact, the guy who created Tumblr went to my high school. What? Yeah. That's really cool. Super random, honestly. Rag. His mom, I think, was like the science teacher. I don't really know. But I had a Hunger Games themed Tumblr. Do you remember your Tumblr name?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
That's like when I was like, I'm just a really, really big fan of Justin Bieber. I just want to marry him because I love his music. That's what I used to say in fourth grade.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
Oh, I had my birthday party in, I think it was fifth or sixth grade. It was Justin Bieber themed. I was a really big, really big believer.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
Nothing. I just wanted to say hi. You're on Therapus.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
Like I'm 30 years old. Twilight had a really cool aesthetic going on.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
It was so ahead of its time. Not me talking about Twilight again. Well, no, it's the reason that the Hunger Games exists. It's the reason that the Maze Runner, like, Divergent, it's the reason, I mean, like, I feel like people, I wonder if, like, younger people today, like, remember that insane surge of, like, YA fantasy games.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
And he's like so authentic to who he is. Yeah. So you can tell when someone just like works hard and he like really like That generation of TikTok had so much outside noise because it was such a new thing. Totally. It was kind of like when YouTube happened or reality television first came about or whenever there's something new, there's always pushback.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
And I feel like TikTok kind of was the space for unlimited pushback. And he's someone that just didn't really – I don't think it affected him at all. He's like, I'm going to do my thing. And if you like it, you like it. If you don't.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
Yeah. Uh, I don't think we've ever met. She follows me. We fought, we've DM like once and like, I think texted once and then like, I like, that's it. Like, uh,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
What is, quickly, what did you, since you said you profiled Gracie early on in GQ, is there something you noticed different from GQ to now in her?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
That laugh was harder than it should have been. Legit.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
It's just so, there's no one better. Like anyone else, you bring such a distinct voice to everything you touch. Thank you. It's true. It really is true. And there's no one better than, To take on Cosmo and change it and shape it for how the world we're in now. Thank you. That's so sweet. It's true.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
It's amazing. And you're like excited to go to work every day.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
Yeah. It depends what I'm doing. Every day is different. Like today I was so excited because we're hanging out. Some days I'm, some days I'm like, you know, I actually don't think I've ever really dreaded something. Is that true? Sorry, I just lied. I dread everything. But I, there's like, the days I'm like most excited is like,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
I think one of the most excited I ever was, I finished tour and the day, did I do role model the day I got back? I've never been more excited for anything because we had already done it once before and I was so excited to talk to him again. I couldn't wait. And, like, that was one of the times I was most excited. Dreading was... Love Tucker. Fanfic. We need it. I know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
What are you watching right now? I always love to ask. Are you watching any of the Oscar noms?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
No, I mean, I spent an entire season prescribing girls every single episode.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
It's so everything. Like it's seriously like that show changed everything. My life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
I feel the same exact way. I'm so excited for her show.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
Hacks is the best show I have seen in recent, like I had my girls moment and then I had my hacks moment. Cause the end of season three where Hannah, it like says that to Jean smart, it was worse. Like I would, wouldn't you? She's like, so kind.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
Okay. I tried to get into traders, but I, whoa, you're not into traders. I know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
Do I have time to catch up? How many episodes? I feel like there's like 10 already out. It's like two.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
You've got to watch Housewives if you love traitors.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
So, once again, tickets for my tour are on sale at PassThatPuss.com. I'm So, so excited to get back on the road. Yeah, I can't fucking wait. It's going to be amazing. I think that I was at my happiest when I was on tour, meeting everyone and hanging out and making people laugh in person and just my favorite thing in the world. So I'm really, really, really excited.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
Wait, no. Obviously, I'm like, wait, hello. Tell me everything.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
Severance is so sick. Really? I remember watching that in real time when it came out. Like, and then... It's just so good. It's so good. Because it's, like, I love a show that's, like, Black Mirror-esque.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
No, because, like, you're never going to be in a severed workplace. Okay, that's true. You know what I mean? So it's, like, unrealistic. It's, like, you're never going to sign up to do that. Actually, that's what makes me feel less anxious about that show is that you have to sign up to do that. So it's not, like, you're forced to be severed. It's just... Have you seen any of the Oscar noms?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
I saw her Colbert performance, which was just mind blowing. I couldn't catch any of the Grammys because I was in the air. Like I was on a plane for, I, Oh, this is the second time I've said I was in the air, which is so weird. I said it this morning too. I was on a plane and then I landed. Jake Shane was flying. Yeah, I was fine. I landed and I turned on the Grammys cause I finally got service.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
And, um, Oh my God. Also the scariest thing happened to me. We were, you know, about all these like plane crashes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
Okay. Well, so I had a moment I was flying and I was like chilling the whole flight. And then all of a sudden, has this ever happened to you before? It's never happened to me. They were like, you need to turn off your phone. And I was like, well, it's on airplane mode. And they're like, no, no, no. You need to turn it off. And I was like, what?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
And they're like, we're going through a really, we were about to land. And they're like, you're going through, we're going through a really foggy area. You need to turn it off. And I was like, okay. So that's it for me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
I get on my red eye. I take two Benadryl and two melatonin. And I pass out. It's like the closest thing I can get to Xanax without actually taking a Xanax.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
For Valentine's Day, we have a Valentine's Day therapist special with the coolest person in the world, as I like to say, the editor-in-chief of Cosmopolitan and Seventeen magazine, Willa Bennett, former editor-in-chief of Heisnobiety. She is seriously, like, I just feel so uncool around her. But then I also at the same time feel cool by association.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
And then I pass out. I wake up. And then I sleep until noon. Because I usually land in New York. Because it's always to New York. And I land in New York at like 7, 6, or 8. And then I'll sleep until noon and then get to start all my day.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
Yeah, I know what you mean. I try to like just lay in bed and fall asleep and then I'll wake up at like 12. That's like my routine. I'm like, I have to lay down and I have to sleep.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
You know what? I was a lot better than I think people would guess. I was a lot better. I'll tell you why though. When you're touring and you're the artist, that entire day revolves around you. Everything revolves around you. So everyone's concern is making sure that the show goes on. Am I wrong? What is so funny? No, you're not. Jake is the center of the universe. I love it. Tell me more.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
So when you wake up and you're like, it's Jake day every day. Like it's not easy to, I mean, it's easy to get out of bed. You're like, what do I want to do? What do I want for lunch? What do I like? Like, what do I like? I, it's easy for me. I'm like, I will say there's been times where I have gotten no fucking sleep, but you learn. So like,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
I started taking an Advil PM right after I got off the stage because sometimes I'm just so revved up that I can't go to bed.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
That's how I felt when, like, my tickets went on sale. I was, like, refreshing, refreshing, refreshing, refreshing, refreshing or, like, Honestly, this sounds so lame, but, like, when a TikTok does well, like, I'm, like, I can't stop. It's very addicting. Like, scrolling, scrolling, comments, comments, comments. Or, like, the post, like, yes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
It's when you're putting something out that you, like, think is, like, your own work.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
That's like what I really, really appreciate because like as a kid, I like never thought – people don't understand what OCD is. Yeah. And so like when people tell me that I've made them feel better about that, like that always makes me feel really, really good.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
She's just so smart and she's so talented and I'm so excited for you guys to get to know her. She recently just put out her first issue with Cosmopolitan. Macaulay Culkin and Brenda Song are the cover stars. It's Seriously incredible. It's like a new era for Cosmo. It's so cool. I just, I'm so excited for you guys to get to know her more. If you don't already, she's awesome. Happy Valentine's Day.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
Um, I think people think it's, like, a neat disease, and, like, it's actually, like, so not that at all.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
Like, I don't even think that, like, it could be a neat disease, but, like, the actual basis of OCD is just, like, thoughts that happen again and again and again and again and again, and, like, you have these thoughts, and, like, uh, like, you feel, like, the need to do them, like, you're obsessive compulsive disorder, like, you're obsessive over it, so, like,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
I have thoughts and, like, if I don't do it, something bad will happen. Because, like, it just, it takes your anxiety and it, like, think, okay, for me, it, like, takes what I'm anxious about and then, like, twists it and is, like, you actually have, you can control this if you just listen to me and do what I say. So, like, that's what OCD is for me. And it's, like, different for a lot of people.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
But, like, growing up, like, that, it's very underrepresented. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
It's kind of random. But, like, I just, like, it popped into my head mid-conversation, and then I was like, I really want to ask this. What is the toughest writer's block you've ever had?
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I don't write enough to have writer's block. I don't. I don't write enough to have writer's block. I'm trying to think because like that high snob piece came like I already like wrote half of it and then it came like so naturally to me. Probably, honestly, it's probably when I'm writing my monologue for my show.
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That's been really, really hard for me, and we're doing it right now.
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It's like, oh, I have to do it by this date? Oh, we're getting it done.
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No, really? I feel like people ride for this fucking album.
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God, I wish I thought more about tour. Like my thing is like, I kind of just get my, well, it's tour is so based on the audience in that moment.
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Especially with comedy. So when you're like singing and you're performing, yes, it's based in the audience, but the audience knows we are coming here and we are going to hear these songs.
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When you're trying to make people laugh, every audience is different because every audience is from a different place and every different place has a different sense of humor because every place is a different environment. So you have to mold every single time you're talking to people what you kind of just, it's such a quick thing. In that moment, you have to be like,
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I love you pussies more than anything. Enjoy the episode. Hi pussies. Welcome back to Therapist. If you're noticed, shit. Sorry. Hi, pussies. Welcome back to Therapist. If you're noticing, I'm looking a little extra fashionable today.
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This isn't working and you have to quickly pivot or like they're not getting this. I'm going to go through this really quickly and then do this instead. I don't know.
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Yeah, that's fun because it's like we're hanging out. That's what I love most. My favorite part about tour is when I'll do the tell me what's wrong. And that's my crowd work section. So we'll do a lot of crowd work and it's so fun.
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so yeah I think I've seen this on TikTok they'll be like this is going on my life and you'll just like respond to that it's so cool yes and you learn a lot you learn how to respond like crowd work is such an art like you have to like you have to it's like a whole to do it's not like that much it's hard no it's hard It's hard.
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Yes. Like just what you were telling me about that episode, which I loved. And people don't tell me about it that much, but I love that episode.
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Right. So did I. I learned a lot about like her. It made when I ended up listening to Brat for the first time, being able to hear about it before. So I knew what the vision was before it came out. And so did everyone else that listened. And seeing that vision realized so like perfectly was like what really made the episode for me.
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Yes. I heard, I think she had released, she had released 360 and she had released Von Dutch.
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I think she had released the Von Dutch remix. Yeah, she had. And I think that was it. I don't think she had released anything else. And Brad, and she was sitting where you were sitting and she was talking about how Brad was
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really direct and bitchy and vulnerable and um and i i and then she and then she was talking about i think about it all the time and she was talking about what it was about and it was about wanting to have a baby but thinking about if it's not the right time and then you play the album and it's She's right. It's so direct. There's no masking in what she's talking about.
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She's literally like on the song being like, I'm thinking about having another baby. And it's like, oh, the way she describes her work is so what it was, what it is, that it made it so much more enjoyable to listen to. I don't know. I ride for that album hard.
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That's because we have my dear, dear friend, current editor-in-chief of Cosmopolitan and Seventeen and former editor-in-chief of High Snobiety, the one, the only Willa Bennett. Hi, Jake. I think you're the coolest person in the world.
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What are some of your favorite albums of all time? I love that question.
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Um, yeah, that was, that was a moment. Sour was a moment in fucking time.
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Okay. So I think for no brat. Okay. So the reason why it was such a moment is because in my mind is because like when you're like, when you're listening to brat, you're locking into what brat is and you're locking into that,
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mindset like that brat mindset and i was so ready to be in that mindset of like let's party and do drugs and say whatever i want and do whatever i want and kind of let loose and i feel like if you're not in that like you have to be in that certain position to really appreciate it
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So I'll, I'll send you a few songs that I think you'll like. So on her remix album for brat, which is excellent. Japanese house song. Incredible. Yes. Incredible. Incredible. Have you heard that? Everything is romantic remix with Caroline. Yes. Incredible. Okay. So my favorite part. Okay. You get it. Everything is romantic. Remix is that the first, everything is romantic.
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And this is what makes both albums so good. Like, by the way, when I was doing my meet and greets for my tour, I would play the brat remix album, start to finish. Um, which I just, I could go on about forever. I love that. But the Everything is Romantic remix, the first Everything is Romantic is like this like ode to like loving life and being in Capri and like whatever.
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And then the second Everything is Romantic is about how everything for her is going so well, but she doesn't feel good. And Caroline Polachek is like there to remind her that it's not just the grand, the grand, what's the word? Grandoise, grandose, grandiose things in life that are romantic, but it's the smaller things in life that are romantic too. I love that. Is what I think.
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And like, but it's a sad song as well. It's, it's sad.
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Yeah. Which is cool. Yeah, she is really, she's, like, one with the gays.
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No, she's the least... She's the most gay straight person.
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Like, she's so for the gays, but she's so straight.
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Thank you. You are so cool. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Like, I didn't want to call it out. Thank you so much. Thank you.
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She writes some of my favorite lyrics of all time.
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She's a true artist. She has this one line. I know the end and she talks it out. She's like, I romanticize a quiet life. There's no place like my room. So good.
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And she's, that's actually in reference, I'm pretty sure, because I watched her Genius interview, it's in reference to being on tour, and all she can think about is wanting to go back to her room, I think, but then when she actually goes back, it's not, she's romanticized it, so it's not, it's one of my favorite lines.
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she had this one line in this boy genius album yes i love boy genius love boy genius and cool about it and she says i think it's her that sings it she says i took your medication uh to know what it's like and now i have to pretend like i can't read your mind oh my god which is so like my favorite thing she's ever written and she talks about and then she's like and i walk down i walk the street with you and i practice method acting like to pretend that i don't know what you're thinking but i know everything you're thinking
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I was like blown away. I need to get into Alligator Bites Never Heal. I haven't gotten into the album yet. I've gotten into a few songs, but I know she wrote that album in like three weeks.
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No, no, no. But we were Instagram friends like a week before that.
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Yeah, when I interviewed her at the VMAs, she was like, I wrote that album in three weeks. Wow.
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Yeah, she was like, I wrote it in three weeks. And that was before she was like really having her moment.
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Oh, and I just, I love that. I just love her. I really want to see her live. Should we get into the Tell Me What's Wrongs? Yes! Can we call someone? Yes. This is what you have been excited for. I've never had someone so excited for the Tell Me What's Wrongs, and I love it. Okay, I need advice from my friend. He's gay, 24 years old, and went on a date with a 72-year-old who was my mom's OBGYN.
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And we were like waving at each other. And then like, I thought you were cool. And then Louise was like, holy fucking shit. Do you know you're on Willa Bennett's story? And I was like, wait, that's what my Instagram, my new Instagram friend. She was like, no, you actually don't understand. You're on Willa Bennett's Instagram story.
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The date went good, but I mean, he's old as my grandfather, and now he is sending flowers to his work, messaging him, et cetera. Does he ghost or turn him down easily? What do I say? Help.
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Of course. You will only have a few years with him anyway.
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I would say like a cap is like maybe 50 something. Yeah.
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I've never had a boyfriend, but the oldest person I've ever hooked up with, probably mid-40s.
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Well, I was like 20 or 19. Oh my God, I was 19. How is that? Horrible.
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I don't know why I'm like, you should date a 50-year-old. You shouldn't. Hi, Jake. So I just got out of a three-year-long relationship with my boyfriend. Now all of these guys are hitting me up, including one of my twin brother's best friends. He keeps complimenting me and asking me out. Is that something I should bring up to my brother? What is going on?
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I would bring it up to my brother, but I wouldn't let what my brother says sway how I behave with this person. If you feel chemistry and it's there, then...
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I feel like the brother is going to get mad at the twin brother for flirting and not going to him for the twin brother. It's messy. Yeah. Life is messy.
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You know who I have my finger on the pulse on? Speaking of messy, Lola Young. I love her. I love her.
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Like I would love. I'm on the edge of my seat. I would love to see like if since we're doing Dead or Alive, like I would love to see an interview interview between you and Amy Winehouse.
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I love Amy Winehouse. That's such a good one. And I just want to hear what she has to say. And she is like one of the most like unfiltered artists we've ever had. And I guess anything we get from her is a gift. So that's who I would want.
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I don't think I've ever been so well-spoken in a podcast episode before. I hooked up with this guy and spent the night during the night. Wait. Oh, sorry. Stroke. I hooked up. It's okay.
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I've been up at 4 a.m. every single day because of I've been.
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I've been up so early every day. I don't know why I'm jet lagged.
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I hooked up with this guy and spent the night during the night. He kept waking me up because he was doing downward dog multiple times on a yoga mat naked. Is this the biggest ache of 2025 or am I being dramatic?
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I can think of worse. I can also think of worse. So much worse. He could idolize Elon Musk.
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At least he's in touch with his body. I will say, what was that thing that people used to do where they would stand up and go like this? Do you know what I'm talking about? What was that? Soldier Boy? No. No. You know what I mean? Do you know what I'm talking about? I have no idea what you're talking about. Demonstrate. I had this guy. I was hooking up with this guy.
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And he was so on drugs, I think. I don't know what was going on with him. And he went naked around his room going like this. That is more of an ick than downward dog.
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Yes. Wow. It was horrible. It was horrible. And I still called him again. You were like, hey, I'm not ghosting you, by the way. You want to hang? So it's not the biggest ick, but I am curious as to why he was doing it.
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During your sleepover. But like if he was maybe just protecting his peace.
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Everyone does have their stuff, and yoga is really good for the mind.
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It's not a neck. It's not a neck. I struggle to... Oh, this feels like it was written by me. I struggle to find a balance when going out. I can never be chill. I always black out and don't remember anything. What should I do? You need to find a drink that you love.
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That was the best. When I tell you that was the best. I haven't. I don't think I've had a moment since then that's felt as good as that night. First of all, that show was so sick. Who performed again?
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You need to find a drink that you genuinely enjoy the taste of. So that way when you are drinking, you are not drinking as an action to get drunk. You're drinking because you're enjoying. And like by the end of the drink, you've enjoyed the taste of it, number one. And number two, you have a nice buzz going on.
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So like lately I've been into dirty martinis. Interesting. And I never ever thought I'd be into them. I hated all those for the longest time. Oh my God, we haven't even prescribed anything.
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I'm so sorry. We're moving so fast. I'm pressing the rewind button.
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For the three-year-long relationship girl with her boyfriend, and now she's talking to the twin brother, the twin brother's best friend, I would prescribe.
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The girl is flirting with her twin brother's best friend.
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The girl who thinks the yoga mat is an ick. I would prescribe a yoga class.
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Take a yoga class. It will change your life. Wait, I'm going to say something divisive. Say it.
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I love their boba. They're like little like they're frozen, like frappe situation with the boba. I love that. One time I had this taco salad. It was so disgusting that I've never been able to go back. And also, I don't like that they don't have french fries. I think it's weird.
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No, I would just say, can we go somewhere else? I hate that place.
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February is always a tough month. February is always like where's March is how I feel about February. I've also never once again experienced Valentine's Day enjoyably. So I would know that's a lie. I'm sorry. I always have my Galentine's Day, but I've never had like an actual Valentine's Day.
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Of course. Oh, really? I got one so bad the other week.
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interesting just the littlest thing could happen and i'm like my icks are like based in like my how my because i can see past almost anything when my friends are like that was weird i'm like oh my god that was weird because i'm so careful to how i'm perceived that like that's when i get insecure and anxious because like when you're in a relationship you're giving so much of yourself to that person like you kind of become one together i'm like
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I'm so, I'm a little, I'm a little too, I need to work on it. I'm a little too cautious to how my friends see the people that I want to be with romantically.
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It's just like an art exhibition, it feels like. You sit down. I mean...
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Scary. For the guy- We are so off topic. No, but we're on topic at the same time. For the guy that was hooking up with the 72-year-old, I would prescribe Call Me By Your Name.
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to my favorite that movie ruined my life and changed my life at the same time incredible I've seen it once I don't think I've ever seen it again because I want that I want an older lover in Italy like that was the dream Timothee Chalamet was living the dream so true like that was just awesome they were like going on trips together his parents were like we love you for you like it was in the 80s I was like what is happening um
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But yes, back to the girl who was blacking out. I prescribe a drink that you love.
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Yes. Okay, you know how I have my tense up thing? Yes, tense up. You have your... Oh, is that my thing? Yeah, that's your thing. That's like how I, like, I'll never forget the first time I saw you. Tommy, you looked at me, you went like this. I was like, oh, she's so cool.
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So cute. My friend group and all my friendships are with people six to eight years older than me, which I love, but sometimes I do feel I need to act my age. I'm fresh out of college. Where do I find these 20-somethings?
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Okay, I've never seen it. I would prescribe... Or Sister to the Troubled Pants.
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That was the first time that's ever happened. Really? Yes. That's never happened. I was literally about to say Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants. So good. It's been three months since the breakup, and I swear I will never get over this man. We dated for a year and a half. It feels like he's already moved on to IDK what to do.
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Throw yourself into media to take your mind off of it.
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Get into a series, get into something, get into, honestly, if you've never really deep, if you've never dove deep into Taylor Swift's work, like that's like 12 albums deep worth of it. Like you're in for a treat and a documentary or two. And like, you'll also feel less bad about being so dramatic about this because she normalizes being really dramatic. Yeah, totally.
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And, um, just, I would say throw yourself into art or something that you can just like enter a different world.
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What Taylor Swift songs do you relate to the most?
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Like, I could go on. What's your favorite song? The Archer.
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The fact that I know that is so wild. You got Getaway Car and you got, I forget what the other one was. August. I think it was Maroon.
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Because I remember I was in Singapore and it was the first time she ever did Maroon. And Maroon is my favorite fucking song from Midnight's besides Mastermind. And she did Getaway Car and Maroon. And then that same weekend she also released You're Losing Me. It was a good weekend to be, it was like a good weekend to see the heiress tour.
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What is your experience like with fashion shows?
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Oh, for me it was Tis the Damn Season and I only saw it once and it changed my life. That is like my favorite song off Evermore.
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So good. Or, like, The Archer really hit, obviously, for me. But Lover really hit for me. Lover's a beautiful song. I love that song, no pun intended. And I love when she would perform, when she did Marjorie. I love, like, the Folklore Evermore set.
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Oh, hold on. Let me grab it for everyone. Willa brought me a gift. This is... From the archives. From the archives. Taylor Swift's 2012, so red era. Yeah. Cosmopolitan cover.
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It's so freaking cool that she did a Cosmo quiz. Oh my God. Crazy for a Kennedy. Taylor Swift, age 34. The fact that in the red era... Taylor's publicist allowed her to have, go on a cover with the words late night sex, make it hot, make it happen. It's so crazy to me. Cause like, you know, she was so, so like careful back in those days. Not, she wasn't talking about sex.
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The Wonderstruck perfume? You're kidding. No, this is like truly amazing. This is like, wait, if there is, you know, when they would be like scratch and sniff?
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Do you want to, like, do you feel as though a lot of people would say print is dying? What do you think?
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Dior. She was really that cover girl for the longest time.
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okay, I'm finding this Taylor Swift thing. Yeah, no worries. We got all the time in the world.
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Oh my God. This is Lady Gaga's fame perfume. Are you excited for them?
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Wow. Oh, my God. That's exactly what I remember.
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Brett is going to be so jealous. She's going to come home and, like, smell it until her nose falls off. I'm trying to find this quiz. Oh, my God. Silver Linings Playbook. Jessica Simpson.
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Slim and sexy all over. Yes. My God, why is skipping breakfast backfires? Yeah, checks out.
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Sorry, I'm like so... Oh, my God. Talk about a throwback.
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Bebe? You don't remember? Oh, my God. Southern queen. Oh, I don't know. But you don't remember Bebe? God, this brings me back. Zooey Deschanel. Hi, queen.
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Besides Taylor Swift because that's like the always answer.
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I want Jennifer Lawrence on so bad. Wow. I love Jennifer Lawrence. Ever since Jennifer Lawrence stepped down.
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foot on that oscar's red carpet and that red calvin klein dress do you remember that of course i was a changed person what was she she was there for a winter's bone so and she stepped and i remember i was an avid fashion police watcher and i had never seen joan rivers say anything nice about anyone ever and all they did for like 10 minutes straight was talk about how incredible jennifer lawrence looked amazing and it was just like it changed me
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I love Jennifer Lawrence. If you could have anyone on the cover, who would you want?
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You want them to reprise their roles? I would lose my mind. I would pass out.
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At all. Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson don't age. It's like the craziest thing to me.
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Really? Yeah. And were you like like do you like when you see a show like that and you like do you view it more as like art or like I want to wear everything that I've just seen?
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I also feel that way. That's how I felt about Vanessa Hutchins and Zac Efron.
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How long have they known each other for? Did they get into that?
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I have awful time management and I need help. Send help, please. No, seriously, tell me your ways. I mean, I don't have ways for time management. So do you? You need time management because you're a writer. So how do you manage your time?
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Okay. I have the worst time management of all time.
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Why? Why? I mean, I don't even need to know why. I assume it's like asking why like smoking is bad for you.
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Wait, I also the other day was thinking I really want to sleep with it far away. Yeah. But I got a new phone the other day. Like I got the new iPhone. Something inside me was like, don't. your old phone yet. Don't undownload everything. Surprise, surprise. You can't download TikTok from the app store anymore. So I can only use TikTok on my old phone. So now I sleep with two phones next to me.
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Yeah. It's hard. I mean, I've never been more addicted to anything ever in my entire life. I live on that thing. I live on the serotonin. Every notification rings me. Like I feel Phantom rings, like I, God.
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Like not long. Yeah. Not long. I'm so addicted to it. When I'm touring and when I'm working, I'll like get off my phone at like 5 p.m. and go back on at 10. Totally. I use my phone for stimulation. I feel very unstimulated because your phone is so overstimulating. Like a drug, right? So you're like your phone is like a drug.
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And drugs make normal life feel unstimulating because they overstimulate you. So because my phone overstimulates me so much, I feel so understimulated by life.
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They're just like, I am... My phone makes me so lonely. We are in a loneliness epidemic and I think it's really... I think that's why Brat had such a moment this summer. Bring it home. Because it really brought people together. Yeah, I agree. It really did. I described Brat as a party that everyone was invited to. It was the coolest party in the world that everyone was invited to.
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And we are in a loneliness epidemic, which is why sad music prevails. But it's also why... there's moments like brat.
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It's like, we're all alone together. Exactly. Oh, that's why it's the worst feeling.
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I'm like, Oh, I'm not alone. But the hardest part about touring, the hardest part is not like getting, it's not getting on the bus after like getting in your room after, because you know, you're going to do it again. It's when it ends, get home and you're like, uh, what? Like, you know, like everything has just been so overstimulating for so long. Oh my God.
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I've used that word like four times, but like, it's,
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it's just such a shift and i think that's why it's i think that's why a lot of people tour for so long because they can't not do it yeah a lot of people always say artists will always be like it's so hard to come back from touring because you're just like in a different world yeah like well people are like jake they're yeah they're there to see you and it's like such a confidence boost and then that's why you go to the tommy hill figure show
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Session 57: Willa Bennett
Seriously, I'm not even kidding. I'll never forget that night as long as I live. I've never, ever, ever. I've never been to a fashion show. I never expected any of that to happen. And also, it was so cool. It was at Grand Central. Yeah, Oyster Bar. Did John Baptiste perform?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
It was so cool. Tommy always says such cool. Did you go to the one on the boat? Yeah. So cool.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
On and off. On and off. I was, like, so in my own head. I was way too in my own head to be a theater kid. But, like, I did a few shows.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
By the way, you were like, Prada's so it. And I went, remember Louise? I went to you and I was like, Willis says Prada's it. Do you remember that? I love. I do love Prada. Prada and I love their new campaign with Harris Dickinson.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
A little bit. I'm a little bit plugged in. I really... And I also like... I really... Tell me if you think I'm wrong. I really think Miu Miu is kind of having a moment.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
I love this. I bought this in... Europe and I just love it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
Yeah, I did. And I never, I was like, I never thought about my outfit more until today. I had like, I came in with an outfit and Louise was like, you and your color mismatch never fails to unimpress me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
But yeah, I would die to go to a Prada show. I just think it would be so cool. I love Prada.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
Put it in the journal. Yeah, like a Prada show in like Paris. That would be so cool.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
That would be so, that would, Make my life. I just want to see Harris Dickinson in person, and I know he'll be there. I love him. My best friend's boyfriend is a total buzzkill. He is boring and has no flavor and kills the fun. She is obsessed with him, and they have been dating for years. Do I tell her I hate him? Yes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
And like, if I could redo it, I would do it like hard.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
I also, sorry, I just cut you off. No, go, go, go. I also think that they have to figure it out on their own sometimes, which sucks. So I prescribe the episode Panic in Central Park from Girls. Amazing. When Marnie sees her ex, Charlie, and realizes that she should not be with Desi anymore. Because everybody hates Desi the entire time. Everyone's like, Desi is the worst, Desi is the worst.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
Marnie literally doesn't listen. And it takes this entire episode of self-exploration For her to discover herself that she should not be with him. You cannot convince any. It's just like it's so not worth it sometimes I feel like because like they're never. Yes you should tell them but they're never. They have to figure it out on their own every time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
Friends are always right. Yeah. Always. And I'm always the friend. So I'm always right.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
That's Joe Jonas, named him Patrick. I was like, no, normally it's a play on puss. He was like, no, it's Patrick. And I was like, got it, cool. Well, Willow, what did we learn today?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
I do love fashion shows. I learned a lot more about you. And I thought I already knew a lot about you, but I learned a lot more about you. I learned a lot about your work ethic and how important fashion is to you and in what sense it's important to you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
Actually, that makes so much sense because every time I've gone to a black tie thing, I wear a bow tie.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
Real? No. Oh, my God. I have seen so many people fall victim to AI recently. It's like actually alarming. I'm like, I feel like I can, I'm pretty good at like calling out AI, but like Louise sent me a video yesterday that like, I'll play it right here. And she was like, is this real? Were you high?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
I really was passionate about that essay because I actually wrote it. I began it as like a speech in college for my speech class. And I remember being like, this eats. I was like, I wish I could put this out somewhere. And then when we started talking about possibly writing something and I just like expanded upon that, I was like, oh, it just felt so me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
It was like, this is like a really good example of like who I am at my core.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
No, it's not. You guys, that's the scary part about AI. It's like, God, AI is not right. But I feel like I can call out AI pretty quickly. But no. I've been seeing a lot of people be like, look how cute this is. I'm like, that's AI.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
You hear that? Yeah. She likes to give me grief. She's like, you're late on everything. You're late on everything. I don't feel as though I'm ever late. She didn't need to remind me about high snob. I'll tell you that much.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
I know what you're saying about Cosmo. Everyone has this idea of what Cosmo is. Yeah. But it's like, if it's going to continue to exist, it has to mold to our current cultural landscape. And I feel like there's no one better to do that than you. Aw, that's so sweet. It's true. And you started with this. You're doing this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Please, let's show.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
Oh, this isn't even out yet? Yeah. This is such a, can you tell me about what it was like working with Brenda Song and Macaulay Culkin?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
Um, but like in a different way, cause we, we change as a society. We, we talk about love and we talk about relationships in a different way today than we obviously talked about it in the early two thousands. A hundred percent. And I feel like this is such a cool spin on it. And I don't know, I need you to explain this to me and like art person terms, but like why, what is it about this photo?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
You can't look, is it, it's like a very clean image, right?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 57: Willa Bennett
No. Tucker would never show me affection like that. We go on tour very soon. We've actually spent the past few weeks planning the show. Matt flew in. Should we call him?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I'll tell you right now. Okay, so I am on 14 days on December 13th. That was day 14. 14 on December 13th. Hold on. 15, 16, 17, 18. Oh my God. Today is my, well, I guess Nolan just said it. Today is my 20th day without weed. I am so much more alert. I am, it's very, it's much easier for me to wake up in the morning. I'm remembering things. My workouts are easier. I'm happier. I'm less anxious.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I think she draws a really pretty picture.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
You smell the town and the church and the car and, like, you just, like... I also... I did live in the suburbs for, like, six years of my life, so, like, I somewhat... And, like...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
And it's like that feeling of going home in high school and from in college to high school.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
And like her, when she says like, I won't ask you to stay if you won't ask me to wait. Like, let's just like call it even.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
What's your Taylor lyric of the year?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
This lyric, every time this lyric came on, I screamed it. I'll tell you something about my good name. It's mine alone to disgrace. I don't cater to all those vipers dressed in empaths clothing. Yeah. Because I needed to hear that. Yes. I needed to hear that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Arguably, not arguably. That is my favorite song. She's off TTPD. That is my favorite song. But Daddy, I Love Him is my, it's one of the greatest songs she's ever released.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I think it's so powerful that she said that because I think a lot of the time, like a lot of these people are like, they're putting her partner down, but they don't realize that they are putting her down. And like, it almost feels somewhat a little like misogynistic for like, it just feels like, it's like, why are you babying her? Like she can make her own decisions.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Like she wants to make her own decisions, let her make her own decisions. And I think her saying like, I will tell you something about my name. It is mine to disgrace, not yours.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I can do whatever the fuck I want.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I can do whatever the fuck I want because I am Taylor Swift and I will do, and you are going to listen to me regardless because I put narcotics into all of my songs.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Well, speaking of Taylor, what is your Taylor song of the year?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Mine is But Daddy, I Love Him. That is my favorite Taylor Swift song of the year.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Like, that is the one I listen to the most. I will also say I love Fortnite.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
It's just the outro really does things to me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Yeah, Midnight's. Midnight's already feels like a time capsule to me, which is sad.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
It came at a really exciting time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I just, like, that's my song of the year. Right. Because... Every once in a blue moon, there comes a song and it always happens when I'm in a hotel room. So the last time this happened to me was happier than ever when we were in Miami.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
And I was in New York for Alice's birthday. We were in New York and Eternal Sunshine came out. And I had gone on a date that night.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I think we had gone out that night for Alice's birthday and I went on a date and I took shrooms and I just like went home and I was like crying or something and I put on Eternal Sunshine and I was like playing around with it and then We Can't Be Friends came on and I was like, hold on.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Like I need everybody to listen to this song because I understand that like what just happened in here has been changed.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I'm still anxious, but I'm far less anxious than I was. But the devil is tempting me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
because for those who don't know my favorite strand of weed is this um brand called candescence it was like it was just like i would call it like bougie weed like it like was packaged all nice and stuff um they had like different types of like weed packaging or weed like they would have a strand called create so i would smoke that every time i wanted to like be creative a strand called calm a strand called cruise which i would smoke whenever i was hung over um
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Okay, when Ari goes on tour, the bloodbath for tickets will, it'll be, because like she's not doing as many dates as Taylor is doing. So the bloodbath for tickets.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I want to be on stage sitting in her lap.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I want to stroke her ponytail.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
She will. She does. She did it at the Met Gala.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I'm obsessed with her. Fun fact about us is that we actually saw Ariana Grande in person once.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
And she said something to us.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I said, I'm so fucking hungry. And she said, girl, same.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
She had her pony at her thigh highs.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Hacks was my show of the year.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
That show affected me the most, I would say. And, like, changed my life. Yeah, you were really, like... In, like, ways... Like, that show, like, changed... My show of the year, like, it has to change parts of my personality. And, like...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I become very entrenched in their world.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Neither can I. I would say my show of the year last year was Undeniably Girls.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Undeniably. There's no question.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Because of you. Well, I watched it when I was a kid, but Julia reminded me to rewatch it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Yes. Unfortunately. But also fortunately. What was I going to say? Yeah. Hacks was my show of the year. If you haven't seen it, you must watch it. I just, I love it. I think it's really fucking funny. I don't know. I loved it. And I got to binge it because I hadn't seen it. Right. So I got to watch all three seasons. Right. And the end of the third season was amazing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
And then it also won best comedy at the Emmys. So like a show that I rooted for won and it like felt nice. So like that was my show of the year.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
What was your show of the year?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
That was your show of the year.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
You were. Did John show you that show?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Well, did you see that Suki brought Camilla on stage?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
What would happen in season two?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Yeah. Honeycomb. That was the best song. And they refused to play it. Like that was the best song.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Is that like loosely based off Fleetwood Mac or like pretty closely tied to it?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Oh, let's do meal of the year. I love that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Yeah. Was that this year? Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
And no one saved it. Did anyone save it?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
That was the best meal of my life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Every time I, I don't mean to sound like meh, but like every time I travel internationally, like I wouldn't say I have the world's greatest meals.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Yeah. Like everything's fresher there.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
It was just – it was my favorite brand of weed and they went out of business. And they just recently went back into business. And, like, the FaceTime I got from my friend, the camera was flipped on it. My jaw, you guys, hit the fucking floor. Like, I – I'm really trying to hold out for, like, at least the rest of the month. I'm really, really trying. I miss it so much, though.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Also, like, I remember Brat came out, and it came out when I was in New York.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Brat's New York. Brat is not LA.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Or we're not invited. And it's probably the latter. Yeah. But at the same time, those don't, I don't know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Ever. We have fun in New York.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I 100% agree. It's time. I will say our most fun friend is Cassidy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Wait, my video of the year is when I'm in bed with her and she goes fruit punch. Fruit punch.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I miss her so much. Oh my God, she's coming to Miami. We're going to Miami for New Year's.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
That's going to be a disaster.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I would say. Oh, you know what?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Yeah, I'd like to continue not smoking.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Why do you think so? Wait, what?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Well, maybe, I guess it's only, and people say, like, I'm, like, glowing more, and, like, I look thinner.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Yeah, like, I might as well just stick with it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I had so much fun on tour with you. I loved tour.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Yeah, because it would have been bad. It would have been bad. What was your highlight of Brat Summer? Like your favorite part? Weekend of Brat Summer because I obviously have mine.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
My weekend that I was like, this is my brat summer was when I went to Vegas and then flew to the Hamptons and then flew back.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Why did you hate that rest stop so much?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Why did you hate that rest stop so much?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Oh, I almost just brought it back to myself again. Okay.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
That's a good resolution. I guess mine is no weed. Yours is better posture. Can I show this? You look so tan. I miss summer. Oh, you look so tan. Did you get a spray tan?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Oh, I miss summer. We need to go back. That was, Vegas was awesome.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Vegas was so fun. And then the Hamptons was fun.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
But, like, I really don't miss how – like shitty I felt sometimes I just felt very like lazy and I don't know but I I miss it as Taylor Swift says you don't oh wait I can do it with a broken heart I can do it with a broken heart just because you're clean don't mean you don't miss it like she does say I can do it with a broken heart but that has nothing to do with my weed journey
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Talk about, oh. Worst meal. Worst meal. I would say that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Well, we were at this restaurant and we were like, we ordered a chicken salad and we thought it would be like a grilled chicken salad. No, worst. Chicken salad came to our house.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Yeah. And I ate it. Yeah. Because, like, one thing about me is I'll eat it. Like, the one thing about me is I will eat it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Okay, so that was one of my worst meals. I'm trying to think of, like, another really bad meal we had.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I think another really... Are you okay?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I think... Like, see, these are times where I really wish I was high. But, like, I... That's not right.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I wish we could go to Chili's tonight.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I already know what my... These fucking cookies. We're about to have them. Oh, my God. I'm so fucking pumped for these. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Brett's mom makes these crazy cookies every year for Christmas. They're crazy. And they are the greatest thing in the entire world. You can, Manny, you have to try one.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Oh, I would say another, sorry, we're really jumping around. But I would say another New Year's resolution I have is to be better at responding to texts. I really lost that touch this year. And I used to be really good at it. I really lost it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
It's because I became addicted to checking my social media. So I would miss texts and miss calls. And my phone was always on do not disturb. And I think I need to take it off.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
It's like I'm not the president.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Right, because I do put some calls through.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I need to start pinning my friends.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I know. I need to unpin and repin.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I know. And then sometimes I'll be off. Do not disturb. But they won't know that. So they'll just call me twice anyway. And I'm like, damn, like, it's really like that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Will is the best thing that I think happened to me as well.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
What, is it him? I've watched it so many times.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
He really is. He's also, like, he, like, he has a really good heart.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Well, we just get angry because I always say a friend to all is a friend to none.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
You'll learn it one day. A friend to all is a goddamn friend to none.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Is there anything you're looking forward to in 2025?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I'm looking forward to... My ski trip. Never been skiing before. Oh, yeah. I'm excited to go back to New York in the new year.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Well, it depends how much I enjoy it. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I want to plan a nice little vacation in summer.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I do. It's actually all I do. All I do is look forward to things. And if I don't have something to look forward to, like we're not having fun.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Wait, I am going to have a great attitude.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I was like telling everyone I was doing dry January and then I was like, oh my God, I can't do dry January.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
But I appreciate the effort, Nolan. That was really sweet. Thank you. God, what happened this year? See, that's what I'm saying. Had I not smoked as much as I did, I'd remember more. I released Puss in Poems. I finished season one of Therapus. I finished my first nationwide tour. Wow, I did a lot of shit this year. I don't really have any other updates for you guys. I'm watching...
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
You're just triggered because in college they had Rush over her birthday and her birthday sucked every year.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Your greatest birthday was post-grad first year.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Kennedy was gone the second time around.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Kennedy leaving ruined our lives.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
We lost one. Kennedy leaving, like, really ruined our lives.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
No, I, I, I really, I, I was talking about it on.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Right. I miss New York a lot. I just like have fun in New York.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Cassidy is like too fucking good.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
She is the one at my after party for my New York show that pulled me in a corner in her cat suit and started telling me. What was she talking to me about? I don't remember. And then she woke up and was like, yep. She's just too, Cassidy is too good.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
What was our fight? Like, we got in a bunch of fights this year.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
No, what was your favorite fight? Like, that we could, like, laugh about the most after.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
What about the one where we were at sushi at the – oh, talk about worst meals ever. That place. Remember you, me, Peyton, and someone else went?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
Because I thought you were texting Peyton about something.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
You know what? I have another resolution for 2024. I need to stop ghosting men that I speak to.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I know, but then I think I have attachment or avoidant attachment. I don't know what it is.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
But, like, I really just stopped. I'm a huge avoidant. I stopped talking.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 50: 2024 Favorites with Julia Mervis
I need someone that's going to enter my life and, like, force themselves in there.
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No, but it's true. Hey, Jake, these two girls in one of my classes keep talking to each, hey, Jake, these two girls in one of my classes keep talking to each other about me and my friend in Spanish, but my friend knows Spanish, so she can tell roughly what they're saying. What should I do? Should we tell them that we can hear them or just ignore it?
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We definitely wouldn't be shit talking in Spanish. We don't know Spanish.
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I don't. That's why I'm saying. Well, you did take French.
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That's how I would do it. If you were to do it, that's how I would do it.
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Yeah, because, like, if it's not, like, so horrible yet, like, wait until it gets there. Mm-hmm. And then, like, go for peak embarrassment.
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Like, peak making them uncomfortable with, like, oh, no, I know, like, you're shitting on me.
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I'm really upset that I've been ghosting people lately, and I can't stop thinking about it.
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Um, this show on Netflix called, can you fact check me? It's called La Palma or Las Palmas. It's the number La Palma. So I was right the first time. Cool. It's La Palma. And, like, what I like about La Palma, it's in, like, is that it's a Norwegian show, but it's in, like, a bunch of different languages. It's in Norwegian. It's in Spanish. It's in English. Like, it's dope.
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I'm going to take this time to text people back that I haven't responded to.
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I haven't had sex in so long. I haven't had sex in so fucking long. And I don't know what to do about it.
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Girl, I think about it from the moment I wake up to the time I go to bed.
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Who the fuck am I going to find?
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Birthday texts are my personal favorite part of my birthday.
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Also, you know what else is out? Birthday stories.
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I will grid you. Hi, I need help. I have the worst luck with friendships. I don't know why I attract the most wild, crazy people and then proceed to become best friends with them as they step all over me. You seem to have the best of friends and I'm jealous. Please, how can I stop this? Well, the first part is looking inward.
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I prescribe. God, I don't know. Maybe the like maybe the movie Mean Girls. I'd like fucking watch Katie Heron because like the girls around her suck. But then like she also has shit to figure out.
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I just love Lindsay Lohan. I would say goal for 2025 dream guest on this podcast is Lindsay Lohan.
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Well, first of all, I go to Lindsay. Second of all, I just have so many questions for Lindsay. I have so many questions.
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We would be. We would be. Lindsay is- Lindsay's our type of girl. Do I not talk about Lindsay Lohan? Have I not always- All the time. She's my Roman Empire.
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She's my Roman Empire. I speak about Lindsay Lohan, and I have spoken about Lindsay Lohan forever. Forever. I've rooted for Lindsay Lohan forever.
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Forever. I broke my vagina by going down in a 100-foot water slide, and the person in front of me didn't move, so at full speed, her foot rammed into my vagina at full speed with full force.
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Like, I love shows like that. There was this show called 1899, which is by the creators of Dark, which, if you know, you fucking know is my favorite show of all time. And I hated that. I hated that. It also reminds – which is similar to the show 1899, which, if you know, is by the producers and creators of Dark, which is my favorite show of all time.
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So when someone would kick me in the balls, it hurts. It's the number one thing in the entire world that hurts. When someone kicks you in...
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Okay, right. But, like, does that hurt as equally as much or a little less? No.
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I don't know what to prescribe for that.
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You know what my favorite trend is right now on TikTok? Is the like a prayer trend where they tell... Yes, oh my God.
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Can I read you the one I heard today about... I sent it to... I sent it to Alex because it included Alex. Did you see this? Okay, can I read this to you guys? It was spring break 2020 right before the pandemic. I'm on an island called Bimini. Sorry if I pronounced that wrong.
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Off the coast of Miami. I am drunk. I am free. Suddenly, a group of men motion to us, me and my friend, to join them on their golf cart. We fly across the island. It is magical. I begin kissing who is ever next to me. I do not know this person, nor do I care. This is the life. This is the dream. I am unstoppable. Suddenly, we take a rather drastic turn. The golf cart flips over.
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Everyone manages to wiggle out. Where's Layla? My best friend asks. I am not there. I'm beneath the golf cart. Trapped. They lift the golf cart off of me. I am not there. My collarbone is broken along with a list of other injuries. A pack of wild dogs approaches and pulls at my hair and tries to bite me. There is no hospital on the island. Only a clinic.
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I am rushed there by a group who escapes the pack of dogs. A doctor walks in. He is maybe 20 years old. He is wearing Jordans. He raps... This is really good. He wraps a bed sheet around me and tells me to wait for the nurse. I am slipping in and out of consciousness. The room is full of people I know. The nurse enters.
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When she sees my eyes closing, she reaches over and twists my nipple to keep me from fainting. Everyone sees my nipple. I am covered in blood, and she continues twisting my nipple to keep me awake. They have no medicine. I am given two Advil. She continues to twist my nipple, and I fight with all my might to stay awake. Oh, my God. I am told I will need to be airlifted off the island to Miami.
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My best friend is with me. To get to the charter plane, we have to take a boat. I'm hunched over with blood all over me. This is...
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And a bed sheet holding my collarbone together. When we arrived to the charter plane, I see a group of kids hanging out in the waiting area. One of them is Alex Earl. They ask if I'm okay and I tell them no. I hit Alex Earl's friend's dab pen. I sit in the corner with my friend and watch Alex Earl and her friends literally as I am covered in blood. My best friend and I board the charter plane.
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And 1899 also had, like, multiple languages in the same show, which was super cool. Should we just keep both of those in? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Cool. I thought it would be lovely to end 2024 on our first best friend episode of the season. But Jules is back. My best friend, my girl. We had so much fun shooting this episode. We laughed so hard.
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The pilot has to help me since I cannot climb. As he is buckling my seatbelt, he elbows me in the face. Oh my God, Layla is not okay. When we reach the Miami airport, people are concerned. They think we are escaping a third world country. Random families in the airport approach us offering us cash and Advil. Cash and Advil? My best friend carries our belongings since I am useless.
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I am cranky and a bitch. She doesn't complain. When we land in Baltimore, I exclaim to the family, take me, I exclaim to my family, take me to the hospital. They tell me it's not safe due to the pandemic and that the doctor said my collarbone is most likely fractured and will heal in time. I spent three days in bed with only two Advil every six hours without a vape.
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I know something is terribly wrong. I knew this was more than a fracture. Finally, I am taken to the hospital. They perform emergency surgery. They prescribe me Oxycontin. I spent the rest of the pandemic addicted to Oxycontin. And Alex comments, Alex comments, wait, why do I remember this?
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She never misses them grabbing, twisting her nipple.
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To keep her awake is actually, like, I'm trying to find another one that really made me laugh. Like, that trend has really saved my year for me.
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Listen. I'm listening. This is my personal favorite. I buy sour skittles. Have you seen this one? No. I buy sour Skittles for my return flight from Barcelona. It's a big family-sized bag. It doesn't close, so I fold the top over and put them in my backpack. I go through airport security. I have to unzip my backpack to remove my laptops.
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I go through the x-ray, then attempt to grab my belongings from the bins as fast as possible. There is a long line. I have too much stuff. I attempt to bear hug all my stuff. Backpack still unzipped. I hear clacking as my family size begins to spill out onto the airport floor. Hundreds of Skittles bounce and scatter, spanning a 20-foot radius around me. They are everywhere.
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Everyone is looking at me. I can't even communicate to apologize because I don't speak Spanish. A TSA agent looks at me and the wreckage I've caused and says, adios, Eminem.
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I don't have a broom. How can I help? I'm paralyzed. The TSA agents speak to each other in Spanish and just wave to me to keep going. There's nothing I can do to help. I sit down and skittle.
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I skit down and skittle covered shame. My sweatshirt filled with skittles. The TSA agents don't know what to do. They don't have a skittle protocol. The TSA agents just start kicking the skittles under the machine. That x-ray your luggage so that they don't block the path. Five TSA agents all kicking my Skittles under the machines.
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I walk away glad that I had looked cute that day so they felt pity on me and didn't just put me on the no-fly list. Now I have no Skittles for my flight. Will I buy more? How could I? I deserve to suffer. I flee and sit down to charge my phone and decompress. I pull out a plug converter and plug it in. An explosion occurs. Sparks fly everywhere.
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The whole charging section doesn't work anymore. I blew the fuse. Again, I flee into the night. I question my self-worth. I pity my mother for spending nine months creating such a creature destined to antagonize and cause destruction. I look to God for salvation, forgiveness. He doesn't answer. He frowns upon me.
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We decided we'd like bring in our list of our like favorite moments of 2024. So that's what we did. And I think you guys would really going to like it. We obviously talked a lot about Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande. Wicked, all of it. Yeah, so happy Junday. Happy final Junday of 2024 and enjoy the episode. I'll see you guys in 2025. Love you, pussies. Hi, pussies.
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That part always gets me. Fading in and out of consciousness always gets me.
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So I guess that's my favorite trend of 2024.
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Maybe the apple dance as well.
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Just easy. Everyone could do it.
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It was like, I love a trend that's easy.
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I was great. I had a great, I felt great.
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Well, yeah, we were looking. We were looking for it.
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That's amazing. I have learned, number one, that I don't listen. You didn't learn that this year. Number two, I've learned that... I've like, I can't enjoy life. I've learned that I'm addicted to social media and addicted to my phone.
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And it made me think. I'm addicted to my phone and social media, so I need to be more present. That's what I learned in 2024. I need to be present. I need to enjoy my life.
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I think what I learned and acted on was that...
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It's not. It's not good for me.
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Oh, it hits for me in ways that I can't even begin to describe.
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I started getting very paranoid. That's when I realized I needed to stop. It was before I put out Puss in Poems, and I didn't want to put it out anymore because I was smoking so much and, like, second-guessing myself.
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If I ever get back in the studio.
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I would love to get back in the studio.
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Oh, I learned that I need to drink more water.
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I don't think I've drank water today. That's like a third. I'm seriously like my lunch today was so good. You would have died.
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It's spicy grain free McNuggets with sweet potato fries.
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I don't like pizza to each their own.
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How do you not like McDonald's or any type of fast food?
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Welcome back to Theraputs and happy, happy Junday and happy... end of 2024. Today we have one of the most special guests. You know her. You love her. I love her. Bejewels.
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It doesn't matter. That's the beauty of McDonald's.
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Do you not like fast food, Nolan?
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What'd you get? Tell me what you got.
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What the fuck are we getting for dinner?
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What the fuck are we getting for dinner?
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I want pasta. I want a big bowl of pasta.
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I know, but I would be down for it.
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Pastina. Okay. Okay, so hopefully in 20, we'll like.
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New restaurant. Why don't we try somewhere new tonight?
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What the fuck are we supposed to do?
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Okay. Love you, pussies. Happy New Year.
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I feel like my life has changed.
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Yeah, I have done that recently.
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I am. Yeah. Well, we wanted to do something different today. For the year end, we wanted to do our year end list. And so it's not very organized, but we are just doing like...
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This year literally changed my life. I thought my life – after 2023, I thought my life would never get better. And I thought like I had hit my stride and it was only down from there. And then this podcast and You Pussies like really – changed my entire life. You changed my year. You changed my perspective on work. You changed my perspective on comedy, on literally everything.
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Out of curiosity, what else do you think we would be talking about? Out of curiosity.
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Can I be honest? This year has been a little dark.
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We do. We want to be cold. Speaking of Peyton, my stomach hurt so bad this morning, it set my day off to a horrible start.
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I've had the worst dreams lately.
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Like gnarly. Have you had bad dreams lately? Ew, my nails are disgusting.
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Okay, well, what's up with it? Why did you stop taking it?
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Oh, my God. Is this what you took the other night?
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I actually was wondering how you were going to go to bed. Yeah. I was in bed like, hmm. But then, like, I obviously was like, she'll figure it out. And you did.
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They haven't, her and Peyton haven't left the couch in two days.
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I would like to go out for dinner tonight.
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But, like, where? There are no more restaurants in L.A. We should leave the house.
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But I maybe would want like a cheese plate.
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Right? Like some like Parmesan. Should we go to Pache?
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I will say I went there the other night and I felt very sick because I got salmon and pasta.
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No, it was amazing, but I also got pasta.
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I can't do that again. It made me feel very ill. No, I don't want Pache. What? Take your shoes off.
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Yeah, what do you want to do first?
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Okay, I actually was going to say let's start with favorite movie. I know what you're going to say. Mine is not going to be that.
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Yeah. I loved Wicked too. I would say my other favorite movie of the year. You know what? Let me go to my letterbox really quickly. Does it have to be released this year? Yeah, it does.
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My favorite movie I watched this year. Okay. And yours was Wicked.
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Okay. Mine was. Okay. Hold on.
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Okay, I think my favorite movie I saw this year... Like, who got that blue couch, honestly? It was me. Horrible.
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My favorite movie was Blink Twice just because like for me, it's like I love a twist.
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Um, so I just, I owe it all to you guys. I love you guys so much. Thank you for watching. Every session, every week, being in the chat with me, all your feedback, just everything. Thank you for the support. Thank you for everything. I started 2024 a fucking stoner and I'm ending on the longest break I've had from weed probably since I've become one, a stoner. What day am I on now?
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Yeah, wait. Someone told me though that like I thought because I'm a Scorpio, I find comfort in the negativity.
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Oh. Well, I just didn't know where Blink Twice was going, and I thought that was cool. I don't know what else.
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It was super twisted. It was fucked up. And, like, I wouldn't want to watch that again, but it was my favorite movie that I saw this year.
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And, like, Wicked was also incredible.
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Yeah, she really did. It's like...
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I think she will because she's currently getting nominated for the Golden Globes and the Critics' Choice Awards, and usually the Oscars kind of follow a similar pattern.
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Cynthia's main and she's supporting.
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He slayed and he shook It's Therapist, Therapist, Therapist, Therapist With me, Jake Shane Hi pussies and welcome back to Therapist And the final Therapist episode of 2024 I guess Therapist has only ever aired in 2024 So I guess this is I guess that doesn't really make my first statement different at all But it is the 50th episode. We did 50 sessions of Therapist in 2024.
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Like, because that movie, like, yeah, maybe that wasn't... We were so gagged, like...
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And like we also like had a long day. Like we had a long day.
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Yeah. Wicked was. It's the movie of the year. I feel like I'm only saying Blink twice to be different.
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Okay, my favorite was Daylight and This Is Me Trying. Yeah, that's very you. Because she said, this is me trying to let it go. But also my favorite surprise song of the year, and tell me if this wasn't this year. One, two, three.
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Was it in 2023 that she did it?
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I have full body chills. The fact that I wasn't there for Evermore as a surprise song, like the entire stadium was silent. The thing about me and Evermore is like, I have road for that album. Like,
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Evermore has always been my favorite Taylor Swift album upon release.
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That's interesting. Why do they say that?
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I love Reputation. But nothing beats Evermore in my mind. I just think the way she tells stories on Evermore are like really beautiful. And I also really relate to the song Cowboy Like Me. Because sometimes like we all have moments where we feel like crooks in our own life. And like you always have that one person where like you'll meet and you're like, oh, you're just as much of a crook as I am.
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Folklore, to me, felt like as a little less complex than Evermore.
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Which is so beautiful. Folklore's incredible.
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I was also able to make Evermore myself. Like, make it accustomed to my life a little more.
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Because, like, Betty and... The love triangle, that's about love.
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So I can't really make that about I've never, like, been in love in that way. But, like, champagne problems, like, okay, mental health. Like, I can relate a lot of songs on Evermore to a lot of different things. And, like, Evermore just feels a little more.
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I love Evermore. Oh, my God. I honestly want to listen to it all night tonight. It's, like, my favorite album of hers.
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You know what? Yeah. My favorite off of Evermore is Tis the Damn Season. Yeah. Which is crazy because upon... You can't relate to that. I can't relate to that, but I just... I think she draws a really pretty picture.
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Hi pussies! Surprise! I love a surprise Friday episode and today we have on Benito Skinner and Mary Beth Barone, two of my favorite people in the entire world and the stars of the new Amazon Prime original Overcompensating, which if you haven't seen, you have to go watch it now. It is unbelievable. It's based off of Benny's real life coming out story in college.
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Yeah. Everyone's doing glam for everything. You guys watch Housewives? Yes.
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Yeah. Do you still keep in contact with him? Yeah. Yeah. Does he know you were in love? Yeah. Isn't that amazing? Yeah. So what's up with you guys?
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Yeah, it's all for you. She would have been blue.
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Jake. That's like. Burr. Let me one up you. Not only am I a 62, I have a fan next to me that blows on level three. It's only three levels. And then I have a mattress called an eight sleep that goes to negative 10 degrees or a negative 10. That's the level setting I'm at. And it vibrates me to wake me up.
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I mean like this must be kismet. I was talking about it today. Just like pizza.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Yeah, give him a mic in case he wants to chime in. I know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I don't think I'm opening myself up literally and physically to, you know. Figuratively. Yeah. I'm not. I'm like, all I want to do is have sex.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Yeah, agreed. Maybe some concealer. Yeah, agreed. Come on, sweetie. I have a pimple right now on my lip. I don't see it. Where? Oh, thank you so much. I called my friend yesterday, and I was like, finally got over the hump of the pimple. I literally, I can't believe you're calling that a pimple. Well, she goes, do you have herpes?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
And I keep having What's your type Like what's your What are you attracted to It changes on the day Totally That's tough It changes on the day And that can be hard Yeah And it changes But my thing is like And I keep having like Can I like get TMI Yeah of course I keep having sex dreams And I'm like I know Yeah I love that song Sorry I just think about it Gaga Yeah Oh Mayhem That's what I write for Oh so fabulous So fabulous How That girl in your head ain't real How bad do you want me for real How bad I think about that so consistently I wish I went to Copacabana
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
What's that? The two million person show she just did. Oh, yeah. Record setting.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Do you wonder how they do like security for that? Well, I think they don't. No.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
The only time I felt joy. I mean, I miss Gaga, which I'm very upset about. Where were you? You'll see that show. Just like dealing with shit. Totally. And I was like, oh, I have to go home.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
And I'm going to go see her in Vegas. We say all the same things.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
How do you guys know each other again? We met at a show. Yeah, we met at a show.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
No, you better be honest. We're at Therapist.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Yeah, wait, excuse me? And you go, what if I did? What if I did? Yeah. Because we're trying to normalize it, actually. Do people not have herpes? No, everyone has herpes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I tried to see you at the Charlie XCX after party, and she told me, she said there was walking involved. I opted out. That's not what happened. And we actually can't get into that right now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Terry, my horse. Because you missed the after party.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I saw you there. Yeah, I know. Raising canes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Yeah. I know you kept saying that. Yeah, I know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
It's fried chicken. It's like soggy a bit to me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
One of my friends doesn't let me say Porsche. Because what? She makes me say Porsche. No, it's Porsche. Oh, no, it's not. Wait, really? It's Porsche. Porsche.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I would have come right away. I was at the house next door.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
No, I was pre-gaming in the house next door. Oh. Well, you didn't text me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
It was like where they filmed Don't Worry, Darling, maybe.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
yeah it was sort of that yeah it was kind of art pop it was art pop in a way it was art and i just yeah i had to leave but yeah i'm sorry i missed you guys i missed you i was so happy to see you last night and now today seeing you and your girls it made my night oh yeah you know one of my girlfriends is in love with you what yes let's talk about this julia said um what the hell please tell benny i'm in love with him i love her well tell her to back the fuck off
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Well, you're like the perfect size. I also have like a butt. Totally. So it's like, I can't complain, but you can't shit on the bus. Wait, what? Wait, what is right? So sometimes you wake up and you're like, because the bus driver has to empty it out. And he just doesn't feel like it. No, it's more of like, I think it's more of like a kindness thing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Like, I don't want you to do, you don't need to do that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Yeah, it happens. It totally happens. It happens. Who are you guys listening to right now? Oh, my God.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
And I am so excited for Addison. What am I listening to? I like you. We weren't going to ask. I'm listening to... I'm listening to a lot of old Glee covers right now. Yes. So I did like a Somebody to Love moment. I did Paradise by the Dashboard Light. Yeah. I was doing Roots Before Branches. So I was doing that. And then I've been listening to a lot of – Phone's gone, you know. Of course.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
No facts. You can't remember. I am listening to the new Bon Iver. I was. During the Coachella weekend when that album came out, like, that's when I was listening to that. And then I, you know, it died down. And the new Maren Morris is amazing. Oh, I love her so much.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Wait. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's your favorite Glee cover?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
My favorite Glee cover is, Roots Before Branches. It is an original. Yeah. I also love.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Your mind. I love your mind. I love your mind. I love your mind. I love your mind too.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
And I love Paradise by the Dashboard Light. And I love All Time is Faithfully. How could you not? Wow. Right? When Finn tells Rachel, I love you. God, that's gorgeous. Are you fucking kidding me?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
And the shit they got, were able to get on air is so, like, so insane. That show was out of pocket a lot.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Yeah, the Joker's right outside. Did you see The Joker 2? Yes, I watched it on a plane.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about. It's on a yacht.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Cause I grew up with scrubs and yeah, the office. Yeah. I grew up, you know, I've never seen the office.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
That's what you want. You did this in one sitting. That took seven years. You know what I need from you guys though on this press tour? What? The Jennifer Hudson show. Oh. Where is that spirit tunnel?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
There was someone at the overcompensating premiere last night that looked so strikingly similar to Ellen DeGeneres. I have never seen anything like it. Oh. I haven't. And every person I talked to, she would pass like a ghost. And I would say, is that not Ellen DeGeneres?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
No, no, there was someone that was so strikingly similar to Ellen that I couldn't hold it in. Hey, can I just say, Ellen, you ain't slick.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
You ask Owen, ask Max Salter, ask anybody. I was like, hey, to your right. Is that not Ellen DeGeneres?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I can't believe the holding space lady was there.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I love that. In a way that I'm like, that's amazing. You've got to be in on the joke.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Okay, do we think the Wicked part two press tour is going to live up to part one?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
He's like, that's fucked up. And then I realized like, that's just me like trying to be something I'm not. Cause I wasn't that passionate about it. Like imagine if we cared that you hadn't seen, you know what I mean?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Good luck. You guys never told me what you ride for.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
And they're lived in. They're lived in and they're filthy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
That's the one where she's like, they'll be Ben's partner. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Never seen it. I love Matthew McConaughey. You're going to love it. He is quite the stud in this one. Is he still a stud?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I actually wonder the same thing. No, I wonder the same thing. Well, we should think about all of them having flat stomachs.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I love Nepo babies. Speaking of Nepo babies, Lily Rose Depps auditioned for Nosferatu. Oh my God. On Zoom. To do that on Zoom. At a desk.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I need to talk to somebody about who I saw last night. You grabbing it, everyone? Look at the photos today. We'll see if she's in any of them. Please, if you find her. She has a bob pixie cut, blonde, obviously, because she looks like fucking Ellen. Yeah, of course. And I, she was there. She was real. Did she have a tie on?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
And not to be a hater, but have you guys seen The Office? Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
It definitely wasn't a dress. Okay. I'm, like, going to freak out, honestly. Like, I know Cobra Snake took a photo of her. Okay, we'll ask. We'll reach out.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I mean, I was so taken aback. Louise, if you were there, you would have taken a photo. It was that jarring. I was like, that's Ellen DeGeneres at the overcompensating premiere at the Palladium in Los Angeles. Tweet that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
You know who gave it their fucking all last night? Who? Those paid actors you guys hired to hype up the crowd.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Have you ever hit someone? No, no. You don't strike me as physical. I had a girl in fourth grade come up to me and say, like, I'm going to fight you now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Are you ready to get into the tell me what's wrongs? Yes. Okay, Adam, chime in when you feel necessary. Okay.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I have this friend that is obsessed with the idea of male attention and is talking to five plus guys at the same time. Me and my friends try to tell her that it's not right. Why not? But she just laughs, says she's using them, and moves on. I love her. We wouldn't care really, but it's now with guys that we're friends with.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I'm getting a weird vibe from the person that wrote this in, though. Yeah, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm getting a weird, jealous vibe. What do you think? I mean, Louise, don't you? Come on. Say it. You disagree?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Yeah, she's like, I haven't listened to a single word you guys have said. She's like, this girl. Our girlfriend is talking to so many guys, and we all talk about how she talks to- But what's the question? What do we do? What are you going to do? Nothing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I think she's just flirting and fucking around. Of course. I like her.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Right. Sort of thing. Speaking of, how the fuck do I deal with being back in my hometown and everyone from high school being home? Like there are so many people I don't want to interact with. It's a minefield.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Oh yeah. You're young. Yeah. I had to ask my mom for a toy after. And she said, yeah, cause I was just like, well, there's this, I think it was like some commercial I saw. And she was like, what? Like, you're not like going to get rewarded for this. Whoa. She was like, but I'm so happy for you, but like, I'm not going to like, I would have loved it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Yeah. That's what she said. Well, that is what she says, but she didn't buy me. I think, you know, maybe I was eight and I, no, I was nine and it was during the recession. Of course. Tough. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I have been thinking that the entire time. I'm so grateful for what just happened.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Avoid the spaces. Right. Maybe watch like Sweet Home Alabama or something. Absolutely. Yes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Is that it? I've seen it. Yeah. That's a good one. I've seen it. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I also have not seen 10 things I hate about you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
But I appreciate that it's okay that I haven't seen The Office.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
My dad watched One Tree Hill. Oh, that's sweet.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
That is one of my, I just finished it. Justin Theroux.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
No. They didn't answer questions. HBO makes that. I love it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
And it's like, was that real? Like, what was going on? I love that goddamn show. Carrie Coon. Carrie Coon. Period. Was it like five years? That was a long time ago.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I heard that's incredible. Apparently it's amazing. Yeah. What's your favorite show? Like of all time? Just maybe recently. Recently, um... No, you can go all time. Stakes couldn't be higher.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
It's funny, it's moving, and the music is incredible. It really is just amazing. I watched it like all in one day. It was
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I watched like a lot of MTV stuff though. Like I watched Tila tequila. Oh my God. Yeah. God, she, she lost the plot. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
That show was amazing. Paris Hilton's My New BFF.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Kind of. Real world's actually, I think, maybe partly where I realized I was gay because they were all having sex on there and there was this guy and I was like, but I like what he has going on. You know? Was it CT? I forget, but what I remember in Paris Hilton's My New BFF, and I really wonder if anyone at home listening who has seen it remembers this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
So in the final round of Paris Hilton's My New BFF... She was deciding between like three BFFs, right? This is real. And they brought in their old, these BFFs ex best friends to like come and talk shit about them to tell Paris why they shouldn't be her best friend. I really hope I'm not wrong. There was a moment where this one girl goes, Paris, you should not be friends with her.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
One time she took a shit and sent me a photo of it. And I remember watching that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Yeah, but you're good at playing straight. Like, you know, like when you put it on, you put it on. Thank you. I mean, I really appreciate that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
She went home after that. We had to drag you out. I was hooking up with a guy for the first time, mind you. Okay. Yeah, well, long story short, he farted. Oh, wait, the guy can't fart? I don't know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Because I've gotten that one. Suck what out of your ass?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
People used to tell Ice Spice they wanted to drink her bath water.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
You know what I have seen? Mm-hmm. Don't you dare. I did. Don't you dare.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Oh, you want to hear something crazy that happened?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
What was up with her in Smile 2 and doing that? Character choice.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I'm on episode three because I've been working all day, but I'm on episode three. Okay. I'm on episode three. It gets really shot out of a cannon.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Okay, so it's M. Night Shyamalan. His daughter is the main character in the movie. You haven't seen the thing. Your dad is the butcher. You haven't seen that?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Of course. I mean, they tell you that in the trailer.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
You've got to see it for M. Night Shyamalan's daughter's performance. Bring back the Razzies.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Oh, you know what? Let's do this one because I know what I'll prescribe. Amazon. Do I pick a college town or a big city? I love going out in the city, but I'm scared it's too big and harder to meet people. I also love the idea of everyone around me being a student and it being walkable in a college town.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Slim Shady's in the corner. Mr. Shady's here. Do you want to say hi? Yeah, come say hi. Come.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Right. I would prescribe overcompensating. Absolutely.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Boston's the best college town. It really is.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Okay. Well, you guys, what did we learn today? You too.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I want you to watch the OC, but I've learned that today I do need to finish Overcompensating the second you guys leave.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
And I want that to be what you learned. Okay. Hey, I'll take it. But a needle drop is also correct. But a needle drop is like when it goes into the credits.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Like for example, when they play team by Lorde in the first episode, that's not a needle drop. That's a sink.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
so fucking funny and um you know i love benny and marybeth and i love ride which is one of my favorite podcasts which is their podcast and we've had them both separately on therapist so to have them both together was amazing and just so fucking funny and perfect and i'm so excited for you guys to listen to it to see if i'm coming to a city near you go to past that post.com and click live with jake shane and to submit a tell me what's wrong go to past the post.com click tell me what's wrong and leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy okay enjoy the episode
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I love you guys. This was so fun. We love you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Please. Season two. Season two. You'll have me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
That's what I learned. Big takeaways. You need to have sex. That's a huge takeaway.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I know, but okay. You're right. I think I need to get fucked. I need to do it. Yes. I need to do it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
No. You guys give a little bye, pussies. Bye, pussies. We love you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I saw the one Getty photo of me. New worst photo of me just dropped.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I've never seen you dance. I've actually never seen you party. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Of course. You know, everyone's fainting these days. My friend just fainted after she got her titties done and she got revealed. Faint.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
She went. Well, it was a reduction and they unwrapped her. Faint. And then my other best friend, we were at a restaurant and they had like an upstairs nightclub and- She was in the bathroom and she fainted. And I went to go help her. And someone knocked on the door and it was the girl's bathroom.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
That's not for you, man. Ever. That's not for you. They grabbed me by my collar and pushed me down the stairs and threw me on the street. You got assaulted? And I thought it was a drunk patron. So I looked at the hostess and I was like, help me. Help. And he was like, just listen to him. Just listen. Just do what he says. You go submit. Yeah, like submit. And I was like, what?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
He's like filming you. I love it. Filming you. Such a big fan.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I was. Open up. Open yourself up to love. I'm good. I cut out dairy. Whoa. I cut out dairy and I felt so seen by you the other day, by the way. Thank you. When I chugged oat milk on you. And I did it for a function as well. Yeah. I'm not like super lactose intolerant.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Love you, pussies. Hi, pussies. Welcome back to Therapist. Today, we have two fan favorites combined into one. This is Ride, ex-therapist, Mary Beth Barone and Benito Skinner. This is the best day of my life. Thank you for having me. Oh, I mean, like, I couldn't be more happy that you guys are both back.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Earlier today. You hate pizza. Hate it. Why? You know, I don't really know. It's just like, if I have to pick between pizza and pasta and it's like, I'm not going to have both in one sitting. Yeah. I'm going to go with pasta every time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
And that's what I ride for, personally. Oh, yeah. Wait, what do you ride for? Okay, wait. Can someone go first?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
You do. Oh. Oh, my God. Well, today I ride for Overcompensating, which just came out on Amazon Prime, and it is fantastic, and everyone should go watch it now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Yeah, it meant the world. It was really cool.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
And it was me. It was me last year. I also ride for like, you know. Just say it. I'm really trying to think because I've been waiting for this moment for a really long time. Are you guys going to ride for something after me? Yes, of course. Okay. I ride for, okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, it can come. Does it just come to you? I'll just say one.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
You know who's Nepo baby by and large right now? Four generations make up the family. Who? Exactly. Romy Mars. Oh, who's she with? She's NEPO baby final boss. Great grandpa, Francis Ford Coppola.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
Exactly. I still have never had a boyfriend. That's insane to me. Why do you think that is? Well, you're on tour. That's why. No, I was so close to one the other night. Oh, I can't. Just the other night? In the one night? Wait, I love it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I was like, this is so weird. I love the video. Did you or did you not post a video when she found out she was playing your sister? We posted a picture. Yeah, it was that. We were at dinner together. It was beautiful.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
It was so fun. There's so many good sinks in the show. Sinks? Yeah, like music sinks. I love that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
I know. I felt like Jimmy Fallon. I thought you meant just, like, actual sinks.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 74: Ride x Therapuss
You guys do everything is embarrassing. I love that song.