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Therapuss with Jake Shane

Session 114: Thomas Doherty

04 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

11.692 - 27.393 Jake Shane

Hi, pussies. Surprise. Welcome back to Therapus. Today, we have on Thomas Doherty, star of season two of Paradise. He was also in the Gossip Girl reboot and Tell Me Lies, and he is also a very good friend. But for the intro today, we have my dear friend, Will Hunt.

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28.074 - 30.477 Will Hunt

Hi. Hi, everybody.

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33.106 - 44.132 Jake Shane

Are you serious? Will and I have discovered that adult friendships require grace. But not too much grace, let me tell you.

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Chapter 2: How did Thomas Doherty and the host become friends?

45.035 - 45.516 Jake Shane

What do you mean?

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46.659 - 47.741 Will Hunt

Grace can only go so far.

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48.343 - 50.608 Jake Shane

Will and I haven't seen each other in about three months.

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51.01 - 52.051 Will Hunt

It's been a little too long.

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52.071 - 63.581 Jake Shane

Well, you've been writing in Nashville. Yes, I have. I've done some sessions. Will's new song, Worth Fighting For, is out now. You should all stream it. It's amazing. Any other life updates from you? Not really. My little Southern male. I mean, you've got a lot to cover, baby.

63.621 - 75.231 Will Hunt

Like what? I don't know. I haven't seen you in a minute, so. Is this a little awkward or what?

75.251 - 78.834 Jake Shane

Do you have any questions for me? No, I feel like we've covered a lot of the bases.

78.854 - 79.515 Will Hunt

Yeah, I agree.

83.073 - 86.899 Jake Shane

You don't watch Paradise? No, but I need to start. Did you watch season one?

Chapter 3: What insights does Thomas share about his experiences on Paradise?

92.587 - 97.214 Will Hunt

I am, yes. Any songs you're excited about? Yeah, there's one called Tennessee at 17, and I think it's going to be good.

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97.714 - 105.366 Jake Shane

Ooh, Tennessee at 17. You love country music. Will always puts me on to good music. You put me on to Devin again.

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106.127 - 107.168 Will Hunt

She's so incredible.

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107.228 - 125.413 Jake Shane

You also put me on to Carter Faith. Oh, yeah. I am obsessed with. And you put me on to that. What's that song? It's a very Americana. Yeah, I have no idea. It's like I'm American Dream.

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125.433 - 129.838 Will Hunt

Oh, Sierra Farrell. Yeah. She's incredible. Yes. And she plays her own instruments. It's insane.

129.858 - 130.339 Jake Shane

Yeah, well.

130.659 - 132.382 Will Hunt

She's one of the best live performers I've ever seen.

132.402 - 134.865 Jake Shane

So who should we put on right now besides you?

134.963 - 136.464 Will Hunt

Oh my gosh, that's a really good question.

Chapter 4: How does Thomas describe the difference between acting in film and theater?

154.642 - 157.404 Will Hunt

I do. I miss that. Well, I haven't been here. I'd like to do that soon.

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157.505 - 164.211 Jake Shane

Well, I haven't been here. I get that. We're seeing Project Hail Mary on Thursday. I'm really excited for that. Yeah, have you seen it? Twice. So good.

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164.393 - 194.812 Jake Shane

twice oh it's one of those yeah what's it about though i don't honestly no go go in blind though go in blind it's about space yeah oh it'll be fun okay yeah i'm excited um okay well will i love you thomas i love you pussies enjoy the episode i love you guys Hi, pussies. Welcome back to Therapus. Well, it's just another day in paradise because we have Thomas Doherty.

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195.993 - 199.457 Jake Shane

We have Thomas Doherty on the podcast and it's Doherty.

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199.597 - 201.178 Thomas Doherty

Doherty. Doherty.

201.579 - 213.978 Jake Shane

My first question to you was we are actually old friends. Yes, we go way back. So how? We were meant to do this last year. Okay, but how did we become friends? Because I forget. Everyone kept asking me and I kept saying, I don't know.

214.059 - 215.861 Thomas Doherty

We were at the Tommy Hilfiger show.

216.622 - 231.422 Jake Shane

And I came up to you and I was like. Oh my God, you did. Yeah. You did. I was so gagged. I was like, wait, hi. And then we became friends and then you came to my New York show. We went out. We had a night. Yeah. What? That's what we were doing the whole night. The whole night.

231.662 - 232.283 Unknown

Hi, pussy.

Chapter 5: What challenges has Thomas faced in his acting career?

232.303 - 233.345 Unknown

Hi, pussy.

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233.425 - 235.828 Jake Shane

Well, you're in my favorite show on television.

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236.011 - 238.796 Thomas Doherty

Yeah, I know. You told me. How are you finding season two?

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238.937 - 242.383 Jake Shane

I think season two, I'm not even just saying this because you're in it. I think it's better than season one.

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242.523 - 247.693 Thomas Doherty

How was it starting on the outside of the bunker? Like, was that quite jarring?

247.713 - 274.763 Jake Shane

I was upset. Okay. I was upset I missed the B. You know, I missed the bunker and I was like a little, I was, I don't know, I was like not, I'm sorry, I will just like to acknowledge how poorly that joke landed. Like, I really need to just like get that- Well, no one knew what you were saying. Unfortunately, she knew. Unfortunately, she knew. She knew.

274.783 - 288.103 Jake Shane

And I just, like, I couldn't get through my next sentence without, like, acknowledging how bad that was. So now that we've gotten that out of the way, I did miss the bunker, okay? I did miss the bunker. I'm very happy for James Marsden.

288.163 - 290.266 Thomas Doherty

I never worked with James, but he was always on set.

290.286 - 293.812 Jake Shane

I'm so happy he wasn't, like, killed off, like, forever, forever, you know?

Chapter 6: How does Thomas view the role of ego in his professional life?

334.455 - 336.498 Thomas Doherty

I'm not saying that that's applicable.

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337.619 - 338.16 Jake Shane

Yeah, but that's why.

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338.24 - 339.742 Thomas Doherty

But there are little bits of truth in all of them.

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339.762 - 341.364 Jake Shane

But that's why she's hemorrhaging power.

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341.504 - 343.286 Thomas Doherty

No, but how would I be her son then?

344.207 - 348.693 Jake Shane

I don't know. Okay, I didn't read. I didn't actually read the theory myself, but I was told it. Someone told you it.

348.833 - 349.114 Thomas Doherty

Yes.

349.134 - 352.418 Jake Shane

And then you took it for your own. Yes, but you were that guy's little protégé.

353.63 - 354.331 Thomas Doherty

Yeah.

Chapter 7: What lessons has Thomas learned about self-validation?

394.006 - 394.647 Jake Shane

No way.

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394.687 - 404.468 Unknown

Oh my God, how happy are you? Yes, we can hang out all the time. Are you so excited? Yeah, why? Are you so excited? What?

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404.708 - 417.804 Jake Shane

No, it's Gorgine. Yeah. So much room for us to hang out. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we, yes, yes, you know. So what was it like working on Paradise? Oh, also, you want to know why I know there is time travel?

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418.525 - 419.946 Thomas Doherty

You don't know that there's time travel.

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419.966 - 435.873 Jake Shane

I do know that there's time travel. Okay. Okay. Alex, are you caught up to date? Yeah. Okay, so obviously they wouldn't just cast Shailene Woodley for four episodes of the fucking show. So we better get to time traveling quick because there's only eight episodes.

436.854 - 442.119 Thomas Doherty

I can't confirm nor deny. How do you know she's in four episodes? I'm on the fourth and she just passed away.

442.159 - 448.385 Jake Shane

Oh, yeah, that's very true. Yeah, so sad. What a great soundtrack, too. Good soundtrack.

448.405 - 468.663 Thomas Doherty

Great soundtrack. Well, me and Shailene were going to try and do a cover of an Elvis song, but we never really got into it. I can sing a little bit. Did you sing in Rocky Horror? I've never been in Rocky Horror, but in Little Shop of Horror, I did sing, yeah. So what's the difference between those two? Completely different musicals written by different people at different times.

469.525 - 471.63 Thomas Doherty

But what's the difference? What's the difference?

Chapter 8: How does Thomas suggest navigating relationships with difficult family members?

475.214 - 499.652 Thomas Doherty

Yeah, so Little Shop is about a plant that comes to life. So what were you? I was a guy called Seymour. Main character? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was amazing. It was really cool to go from Paradise to then going to doing a musical. What's the difference? Oh, God, it's so different. I mean, I always feel like with film and TV, it's more you sign up for a lifestyle. I suppose you do for...

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500.037 - 524.627 Thomas Doherty

I like the lifestyle of being on film and TV. Of being on a film set? Why? I love being on a film set, and I love kind of traveling around the world to different locations to film. I also just love the structure that's around a film set. With theatre, as you know... I do. It's like... I mean, you have to go to the theatre at five, and so...

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525.991 - 537.449 Thomas Doherty

Yeah, you have the day up until five, but I mean, you don't get home until like 1030 or adrenaline. Did you sign after? Yeah, I would sign after. So that takes time. I mean, not as many people as you. How many people are there for you?

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539.011 - 541.896 Jake Shane

Like on a night to night basis, I would say like 80 to 100 people.

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542.276 - 547.402 Thomas Doherty

Should I be interviewing you? So what's it like being on Broadway?

547.462 - 553.671 Jake Shane

Well, it's amazing. I do eight shows a week. How many shows do you do? Did you do? Eight shows a week.

553.791 - 568.43 Thomas Doherty

Would you do theater again? Oh, my God. I can't wait to do theater again. Yeah, I would love to do like a play. I just think it's the best practice for any actor is theater, you know?

568.65 - 572.856 Jake Shane

Well, you said that you didn't have a choice whether to be an actor or not.

573.798 - 591.407 Thomas Doherty

Yeah, no choice. Why? I don't know. I mean, it's just like... I was going to, I was going to go to university to do history, but I was like, like, who am I kidding? I can't think of doing. Oh my God. Like you want to be a history teacher? Not a history teacher, but like, I don't even know what I wanted to do. I just loved history.

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