Jake White

So you can imagine, you know, if there's any noise coming from outside, Imbrose knows exactly what he has to do.

And he's been such a talented player.

If you leave him, he's extremely quick as well.

But it's interesting, Bernard, I was thinking about that as well.

You know, in playoff games now, the bench is, I don't want to say it's irrelevant, but it's less important because you can play 65, 70 minutes with your best players, win the game and then not worry about next week.

And that's probably why I think they've got a good chance, the Bulls, because they've got a strong team.

They don't need to take guys off with 55 minutes and keep guys fresh.

They can basically empty the tank.

And if the game's over and you even want to keep them on, you can keep Wilco on until the 75th minute, if it means that you need him there.

So that'll be interesting.

That's what I said.

It'll be interesting to see the team make-ups in terms of whether they're going full guns blazing or whether they're going to go with a tactic of fight for your life for 20, 30, 35 minutes, stay in the game, and then we'll make sure that the big guns come on and make a statement, like they did against Glasgow.

really kind of come together and generated some unbelievable games between the the two national teams over the last few years all right now let me tell you a couple of years ago when our coach was at munster we didn't have pony players and we didn't have ep we didn't have epd emerging play development programs and we didn't have so there's a lot of things that we've got here that we got from ireland um

And I say that respectfully.

That's why Ireland, I mean, I spoke to an Irish headmaster chap the other day who is a headmaster in South Africa.

I said, and Ireland have no right to be number one, two or three in the world in rugby union because they play hurling, they have Gaelic football.

You know, they don't have, you know, many, many rugby players as other countries have.

You know, if you think about it, I mean, it's phenomenal about what Ireland rugby has done in the last, you know, 10 years or whatever, because,

Just from a numbers point of view and from a player base point of view.

But the thing they have got is they're incredibly detailed, Bernard, as you know, the attention to detail, the ability to learn from all the other sporting codes.