URC Grand Final special with Jake White and Bernard Jackman
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What insights does Jake White provide about the upcoming URC Grand Final?
Hello and welcome along to this week's RTE Rugby Podcast. It's URC grand final week. And as you can see, no studio for us this week. We've had to change up a few things and go fully remote just for this one week. But we do have a great guest to go alongside myself and Bernard this week. Former South Africa and Bulls head coach Jake White. Pleasure to have you on the podcast this week.
Thank you, Neil. Nice to join you and Bernard. I'm looking forward to chatting about the final.
Yeah, absolutely. And Bert, I suppose it's one of the beauties of the extra week of preparation between the semifinals and final.
Why does Jake White consider Leinster the benchmark in the URC?
Normally, we only have one podcast. We've had two that we've been able to digest this week. And obviously, it gives us a chance to get the South African side, to get the Bulls view of this final.
Yeah, it's brilliant to get Jake on. I got to know Jake when he was in Montpellier and obviously has had an incredible amount of success and has been a big part of rebuilding this Bulls team who are now back in the final again and obviously went toe-to-toe with Leinster a few times as well. So it's rare we get an insight of a coach of Jake's standing and particularly someone who knows Leinster very well and the Bulls.
Absolutely. And as I said, these two teams know each other very, very well over the last few years. It's probably up there, I'd say, the best non-interprovincial or inter-country rivalry we've seen over the few years of this URC, Jake.
Well, Neil, I mean, if you go back, it's five years now. And I mean, the Bulls have been in four finals. There's no doubt. I've said it many times. Leinster are the benchmark of many provincial sides. And you can list them. Toulouse, Leinster, always up there in the European Cup games. And they're always there in the European Cup playoffs. So I've said it many times, I mean, sometimes to my detriment by saying that Leinster have been and are, you know, one of the clubs that, you know, it's like football.
What specific strategies do the Bulls need to employ to beat Leinster?
You want to be the Barcelona or you want to be the top clubs in the world. You don't want to be just another club. And Leinster over the years have been that. And, you know, some of the highlights of my coaching have been able to beat sides like Leinster in Leinster. I mean, that's a highlight for any coach, but also now tough it is. And I know this week you guys are going to ask me about, you know, what's going to change or what could happen. Yeah, I mean, I repeat myself. Leinster are a quality team. A lot of those players have won and beaten All Blacks. A lot of those players have won and beaten the Springboks. And when they're on song, funny enough, I was watching the last 30-odd rucks against the All Blacks in the quarterfinal.
I mean, it was a really great rugby before Whitelock got that turnover. And I think that's why the Leinster faithful are so... They're waiting with bated breath for that kind of... that kind of sequence to occur over and over and over because those players are good enough to do it.
It's obviously been a year since last year's final and you've stepped down from the Bulls since then. What have you been up to over the last year or so?
Look, I've just taken a bit of time off. I've been helping a couple of schoolboy sides, helping literally from under 11 A's with a mate of mine whose son plays there to a couple of first 15s. I've also had a bit of an accident. I had a hip replacement, which wasn't great.
How does Jake White view the evolution of trends in rugby?
I fell and had to have a hip replacement. wasn't great timing as in, you know, being taking time off and then getting injured. But who knows? Maybe it was, you know, meant to be. But also from a distance, been watching with, you know, with interest on how the game's evolving, how it's changing, watching the finals. I mean, I watched Exeter-Bath game on the weekend with obviously, I mean, look how the game's changed. I mean, who would have thought Exeter would have beaten Bath? And then obviously, you know, the Bulls beating Glasgow, who beat us a couple of years in the final. So, yeah, a lot of time and talking a lot to coaches like, you know, like Bernard and guys that are still in the game, Neil, and spending a bit of time also just helping referees.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What insights does Jake White provide about the upcoming URC Grand Final?
0:06–0:40
2
Why does Jake White consider Leinster the benchmark in the URC?
0:40–1:51
3
What specific strategies do the Bulls need to employ to beat Leinster?
1:51–3:05
4
How does Jake White view the evolution of trends in rugby?
3:05–4:25
5
What impact does the scrum have on the outcome of the final?
4:25–5:18
6
How do the recent performances of both teams influence their chances?
5:18–8:32
7
What role does player experience play in the Bulls' preparation?
8:32–12:58
8
What listener questions does Jake White address regarding his coaching philosophy?
12:58–55:21
Speakers
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