James Catledge
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208 appearances
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first heard Apr 2025
last heard Apr 2025
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It's hard. Yeah, it's hard. And I can't say as I sit here that we did as good as we could. You know, I think looking back, there's some things we could have done even better. But I will say, and maybe it's through the tough experience that we lived through together, they are more resilient today because they went through it. It's one thing to live in the $8 million house.
and then moved to the $10 million house, and then moved to the $12 million house. It's a whole nother thing to go from the $8 million house to the $500,000 house. To the apartment.
That's a whole nother adjustment. And we did it slower than I just said it. We did it slower, but we end up there. Yeah. And my kids had to make that adjustment. I'll just tell you a quick anecdotal story to that point. Six kids, right? The youngest boy is Nathan, okay? Nathan today is in college. He's in his sophomore year, wrapping it up at Brigham Young University.
Nathan lived through the heart of the difficulty. My litigation with the United States government lasted from 2008 to 2018, so a decade of the children's life, which is most of it. Yeah. They only know dad under pressure, right?
Whatever pressure one processes when the United States of America is prosecuting you, whatever that pressure looks like and however you handle it, the kids are observing that. And somehow this 18-year-old boy in the middle of all this becomes captain of his football team. Homecoming king, 4,000 students in the high school, homecoming king. There's not 19 of these homecoming kings, okay?
There's one homecoming king. He is the most kind, gentle, Young man, when I was inside, and maybe some other time we'll get into how I get inside, but I'm inside a federal prison. Oh, we're gonna get to it. Okay, we're gonna get to it. Well, while I'm inside, this is the boy who arranged the kids to come visit. This is the boy who made sure everybody was in the car.
This is the kid who watched his dad not only go through it, but maintain communication, clarity, love, support, and made sure everybody in the family knew how good dad was doing and how well dad was doing, how safe dad was, how everything was going well for dad. And I wrote a blog inside. He's the one who published that blog. Each entry he published.
So he had to read it, clean it up, type it, publish it. I think in an odd way, Nathan's life got real. In a significant way. And I think it's blessed him. He is the most amazing. He'd been amazing interview. He's an amazing young man because of what he witnessed dad going through and how he managed it.
Obviously he had to make choices to manage the way he did, but those choices he made, I think changed his life forever.
Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And then what seats were in. Yeah. Yeah. Right.
Yeah.
Yeah, BYU.
Yeah, what's interesting, and I'll get you to the first breakthrough for me. So I get home from my Mormon mission and all my buddies are headed to BYU. They're all missionaries. These are my best friends on the planet. We've had this galvanizing experience together as missionaries. And my friend's from St. Louis. He drives down in his RX-7 to Memphis to pick me up. We're loaded with clothes and
footballs and shoes and we're headed out. He's been accepted to BYU. I have not been accepted. My grades in high school were too low to be accepted to BYU. I'm like a 2.8 grade point average. But I know that's where I need to be.
I need to be out there, you know, and hopefully while I'm out there, there's a way to get in BYU where you're not full-time day school, but literally your adult night school. And you kind of start there, get your GPA up, and they'll accept you to day school.
No differentiation in the quality of the credits. It's just you're going to school at night. And that worked well for me because I need to work. So we get out there. I sit with my mother constantly. It's time to leave. Brian has picked me up in the RX-7. He's ready to leave. And I've not had a discussion about money, and I don't have any, okay?
My money's been spent on my mission, and I haven't been home long enough to have a job yet. I'm going to school. And so I asked my mom. I said, look, I'm going to school. I know you don't have much. do you have anything that I could get started with? She says this, I'll never forget it. She says, I have $78 in my checking account. How much of it do you want? And so I know right then,
There'll be nothing.
And so I tell Brian, because we're planning on splitting gas money all the way out. You know how it goes. And then Brian's dad's a dentist. So he's got the apartment rented. I'm literally sleeping in an apartment paid for by my friend. I'm not accepted into this university.
Yeah, I got to figure it out now. And I don't have a car. It's his car. And so I know I need to be out there though, man. I just knew I need to be there. I didn't need to be at home anymore. And so I literally the next day walk to the bus, get a bus route map. it back then we had help pointed ads in the thrifty nickel or the newspaper. So I look for jobs that I think I can do.
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