James Chandler

Voice over artists, producers, sound engineers, you know, they would level at you that ultimately you're now getting AI or...

Agent Nigel to do a job that potentially they could do.

What do you think about that?

Yeah, and you can just look at some of the advancements.

I remember playing with Nano Banana around the imaging stuff, just thinking, oh my God, I can't think anyone could do any better.

The latest version of ChatGPT is just incredible for that.

And there'll be someone next week, as you say, Kimmy or something's just going to kind of do it all again.

So much of the prevailing narrative around creativity is that AI is hindering it or somehow making it worse or leveling up.

That's where the whole slop thing comes from.

If we give these tools to everyone and everyone can make the same thing, you get more of...

the same thing.

What you're describing is something very, very different.

the Reddit thread I was referencing earlier, actually a lot of the comments were about video and the fact that these are purists who think that podcasts are purely about audio and it should be called something else if it's video.

And I guess it's that sort of prevailing thing that anything that comes along and tries to change or evolve or move on what we think, what these people think a podcast is, gets treated as, oh no, that can't be it.

We have to treat it differently or it's somehow the enemy or

It's all about the RSS with these people.

It's incredible.

I've got no time left to listen to any other podcast.

Yeah.

What do you, I'd love to get your take on, we covered a story a couple of weeks ago around Spotify, who are kind of doing all sorts of things, kind of having a bit of an internal arm wrestle about how they think about AI, how people can kind of make their own podcasts, how they kind of label it.