James Dolan

I won't say you can't win a title with Tom Thibodeau.

I don't necessarily know that's true.

It's just that if you want to build a long-term competitive, compete for the, you know.

You need somebody who's much more of a collaborator than Tom was.

But still, Tom is still a great coach.

He should coach again in the NBA.

If I had a franchise that I was just starting with, et cetera, he would be a goldmine to get.

And he was like that for us.

When we first started and he first came in, he brought discipline.

He brought strategy.

Right.

He was right.

He brought us all that way.

But we really felt we needed to make a change to go the rest of the way.

No, we decided to surprise him.

We talked to Tom all the time.

Right.

And, you know, look, so, I mean, I don't want to get too deep into what, you know, the interaction, but I would say that whole last year we were talking to Tom about where we wanted to go, et cetera.

He'd probably tell you that he's stubborn, but he'd also tell you that he's right.

Which is the problem with being stubborn.