James Duthie

And myself included, like, almost everyone was like, wow, they're terrible now.

What are they going to do?

And they made a couple of moves, and all of a sudden they got back on the horse.

I hear what you're saying.

Listen, I'm not sitting here guaranteeing you that they're going to figure this out and that they're going to turn it around quickly.

I think you do have to remember, and that board was, I think, appropriate and accurate, what Dregs had to say.

There's 32 teams.

Every team has weaknesses.

Every team in the league would look at their second line and say, man, we need a winger here, or their second D pairing.

Man, we need that, or our backup goalie's terrible.

We need this.

Everyone needs something.

Yes, the Leafs need a lot.

I'm just saying, is it to the point now where regardless of what happens over the offseason,

are we going to be going in collectively next year thinking they're going to be horrendous?

No.

And they're awful?

Because that's what's happening in the fan base right now.

I guess that's what I'm saying.

It's so bad.