James Duthie

And it is.

Players are an issue.

You cannot be a coach in the league and look at that board and say, I'm doing a great job here.

I mean, this is a disaster.

So that's all I'm saying.

For next year, is a coach bump and a coach change and a different system and style and voice has the best chance of tangible points differences next year.

No, you're 100%, and that's it.

I mean, it's not just, and the Leafs are aware of this.

Keith Pelley and everyone are aware of it.

It's not just what you're doing in the boardroom.

Like, if you're representing the front office, you're speaking with the media, you're speaking with fans, you're dealing with agents and players and families and parents.

It's managing.

There's a lot that goes into it.

I don't have an answer for you on why Mike Gillis,

Yeah, and then it's overlapping.

I mean, there's something to that.

I don't know.

I mean, I don't know in terms of timing, in terms of whether or not the individual companies would accept that.

But do they know you're using different quotes as something different?

I hear what you're saying.