James Edwards

And maybe then you put a SAR on Franz or a SAR on Suggs and then put Kate on Franz.

Like I just think that the Durin aspect is obviously a big thing.

He had a tremendous year, all NBA, but there are still things defensively that you, you want from him that you don't always get.

And when he has it, he has it.

They need to decide early on if this is a game where Dern has it, and they have to immediately go to Isaiah Stewart if not, because Isaiah can handle...

Obviously, the physicality.

He's one of the best rim protectors in basketball.

He guards well in space.

And I just think he gives you a little more optionality.

So they're going to have to make tough calls early in that game unless, again, Orlando, like you said, forgets what offense looks like and dribbles the ball off their feet and builds houses in downtown Detroit with their shots.

They don't.

I always, when people ask me about Cade and I say this about Jalen Brunson too,

the best way to describe those two guys is you can tell they were raised right.

Like the way that they, the way that they treat people, the way that they talk to people, the peripheral people, just very down to earth, normal human beings.

And I think that's why people rally around these guys, because there's a level of being able to connect with everybody in the room, everybody in the organization and finding value and having relationships.

And Cade came into a situation where it's very clear.

He's the man.

And I don't think people know just how confident Cade is, but also so self-aware.

Like there's this story.

I don't know if you remember this, but it basically took the Pistons until the day before the draft or the morning of the draft to decide that Cade was going to be the number one pick.