James Islay

That's like a common kind of... Well, I mean, we just saw Zoom Info go public, right?

Yeah, we put them in a space.

I think that that figure really applies to more the enterprise clients.

And if you actually look at their SMB net retention or their mid market, then I think it's more towards our figure.

Yeah.

Part of that is we started in that SMB space, right?

And then we've moved up towards, you know, moving towards enterprise right now.

So that's part of the story.

In total, over a thousand, if you include the Mailtastic clients.

Um, in total, um, like our ACV right now is about 14,000, uh, um, per year.

Oh, no, we've already gone over 10 million.

So we're over 10 million now.

Oh, got it.

And we should finish this year at 11.5.

And then next year, you know, I'm certain with the kind of metrics that we've got that we'll be at 20 at the end of next year.

Well, yeah, I mean, we always have like a deck ready.

But, you know, I'm just quite solid on our metrics.

And then the other thing is that we're aiming to increase our ACV.

You know, it was at 11K.

Now it's at 14K.