James O'Keefe

It became 5-1. 5-1.

It became 5-1. 5-1.

Excuse me, 4-2 when Steve Alemich voted against it.

Excuse me, 4-2 when Steve Alemich voted against it.

He actually committed suicide. You can't make this stuff up. It was a four to two vote when they combined the boards and they voted to indefinitely suspend.

He actually committed suicide. You can't make this stuff up. It was a four to two vote when they combined the boards and they voted to indefinitely suspend.

It was within the year after this happened.

It was within the year after this happened.

I don't know. It may be unrelated. I don't know.

I don't know. It may be unrelated. I don't know.

Absolutely, and there should be some clips in this film to back up what I'm saying. As you know, I like to make factual statements. Matthew Terremond was the number one orchestrator, the top guy. And you want to take you through a little bit of each of these guys. Matt Tierman, I was on a boat in the Bahamas, Pat, about eight, nine years ago with a big, big supporter, big philanthropist.

Absolutely, and there should be some clips in this film to back up what I'm saying. As you know, I like to make factual statements. Matthew Terremond was the number one orchestrator, the top guy. And you want to take you through a little bit of each of these guys. Matt Tierman, I was on a boat in the Bahamas, Pat, about eight, nine years ago with a big, big supporter, big philanthropist.

And he said to me, you have to be aware of this man. I said, why? He said, because this man is incredibly jealous of you, James. And he wants to be you. You need to get him off your board. Now, at the time, I didn't know what that meant. I was like, oh, what does that mean? He admires me? I didn't have any life experience to inform me what could happen to someone who wants to be you.

And he said to me, you have to be aware of this man. I said, why? He said, because this man is incredibly jealous of you, James. And he wants to be you. You need to get him off your board. Now, at the time, I didn't know what that meant. I was like, oh, what does that mean? He admires me? I didn't have any life experience to inform me what could happen to someone who wants to be you.

But apparently people saying this guy was very envious. He wanted to, you know, to be me or to... have what I have, whatever that, we could talk about that. That's Matthew Tierman, the guy who orchestrated everything. And there are some insane, pornographic, obscene messages he sent me.

But apparently people saying this guy was very envious. He wanted to, you know, to be me or to... have what I have, whatever that, we could talk about that. That's Matthew Tierman, the guy who orchestrated everything. And there are some insane, pornographic, obscene messages he sent me.

Now, Matthew Tierman was soliciting the board members to put money into his companies, that he was his for-profit Wall Street. He worked on Wall Street. He has an economics degree from the University of Chicago. His father was a famous Polish anti-communist dissident. A lot of these guys had fathers who were wealthy and famous. So one theory is that they lived in the shadow of their fathers.

Now, Matthew Tierman was soliciting the board members to put money into his companies, that he was his for-profit Wall Street. He worked on Wall Street. He has an economics degree from the University of Chicago. His father was a famous Polish anti-communist dissident. A lot of these guys had fathers who were wealthy and famous. So one theory is that they lived in the shadow of their fathers.

We could talk more about him in a minute. There's George Skakel who we've been talking about. There's a man named Joseph Barton. There's federal deposition clips of him in the film. Joe Barton said some pretty crazy things in his deposition. He said, I'm not entitled to a private life. So these guys were publishing messages about my personal life with my girlfriend.

We could talk more about him in a minute. There's George Skakel who we've been talking about. There's a man named Joseph Barton. There's federal deposition clips of him in the film. Joe Barton said some pretty crazy things in his deposition. He said, I'm not entitled to a private life. So these guys were publishing messages about my personal life with my girlfriend.