James O'Keefe

Because they feel like their lives are in danger.

Yeah, I mean, there's no incentive.

The incentives are not aligned.

You can't hold them accountable.

You can't defend yourself.

You can't shoot back.

You can't fight back.

You can use mace or something or spray, but if you did that as you're being attacked, they'll use force against you.

They'll kill you.

And so the only thing that- The numbers are just too great.

The only thing that we could do, and I'm not a very fearful person, but I recognize when I'm in danger, there's a difference between fear and danger.

The only thing you can do is just walk away.

and not engage them.

That's what I had to do in that moment as they're throwing projectiles.

Just walk, don't pass go, do not collect $200, not look back at them, actually, and just get the hell out of there.

But you realize there's nowhere for you to retreat to.

And my assumption is these police officers aren't gonna do anything because they don't wanna end up like Derek Chauvin.

They don't wanna be in prison for the rest of their lives or in front of a jury that'll convict them.

I think you have to experience this, Megan.

You're a reporter.