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Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
And that's so that your immune system doesn't attack itself.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
Yeah, a lot of common diseases are the result of the immune system being...
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
going wrong and actually attacking you, like autoimmune diseases.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
So there's a lot of regulation and a lot of redundancy in the immune system.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
And that means that often you need more than one signal to get things started.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
And we know that many of the signals are not likely to work.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
When I speak to my immunologist colleagues about this, they said when they first heard about this issue, their initial reaction is to kind of defend the immune system because the immune system is amazing.
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Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
It can do so many things and it is really adaptive, but it also is very complex and breaking one part of it we know can cause really big problems.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
So we can't be 100% sure about anything that will happen here, but the fact that we can be pretty confident that certain key parts of the immune system won't work
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
I think is quite worrying.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
I mean, a lot of antibiotics are chiral and so they wouldn't work, but some are achiral and some come in racemic mixtures, which include both chiralities.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
And so those would be expected to work.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
I think the key difficulty with any medical countermeasure is scaling it up and distributing it to all of the people that would need it.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
And even more than that, giving it to all the animals and plants that could be
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Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
infected and you'd need different countermeasures most likely for each of the different species that could be infected.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
So this would be doing something at a scale that we really can't do at the moment and historically haven't been able to do.
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Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
I think it's possible.
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Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
I mean, I do think this is something people should be thinking about and should be working on, particularly if you care about reducing X risks specifically, or you care about long-termism.
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Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
I think there's quite a good argument to think that by investing in countermeasures, you can cut off some of the worst risks from mirror bacteria.
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Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
I'm just not that optimistic that society will be able to get itself together to do this at a massive scale, given our track record.