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James Smith

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80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

I do talk to a lot of people about this who think we should reject the kind of risk benefit framing for an issue like this, where you have catastrophic risks, you know, that could...

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

that could kill a large fraction of multicellular life, like they'll ask, okay, what is the benefit that you can actually imagine that would justify doing that?

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

And I'm somewhat sympathetic to this, but I think it is also important to get into the benefits to some extent.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

And in this case, I don't think it ultimately makes any difference in terms of what we should do.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

So what are the benefits?

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

The key benefit that people talk about for making mirror life would be making mirror molecules, which can be used for therapeutic purposes, more efficiently.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

But we can already make a lot of these mirror molecules without mirror life.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

So it's specifically focused on large mirror molecules.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

Yeah, so the properties of mirror molecules in general that make them interesting for therapeutics are the fact that they tend to not produce an immune response and they don't get degraded in the body so they can last for longer.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

Those are the exact same properties that make mirror life dangerous.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

I see.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

Having said that, mirror molecules, there are already quite a lot of these in use, at least in early development.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

So this is an area where there's some investment and some interest.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

Big mirror molecules, it's a little bit unclear to me what exactly you'd want to use them for.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

Maybe if you wanted to make a mirror enzyme that could...

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

cut something up, then you might want to do it.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

Most of the mirror molecules at the moment work by binding to something.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

So they don't need to be that big and complicated.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

If you want a molecule to have lots of, if you want it to have a complex function, then it needs to be a complex molecule that can kind of move around and have like different pockets and things.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund

And so maybe there would be applications for those mirror enzymes, but I'm not really sure what they would be.