Jamie Carragher

But in terms of what, something here, I was saying about the goalkeeper going down, I think there is something in that.

And he's not the only one, by the way, but there's definitely...

over the years they've sort of pushed that and that's where I first started almost the Jose Mourinho comparisons and Diego Simeone of Atletico Madrid but even those two managers you know what you're getting in some ways they've always been like that and I don't think I don't know I think sometimes is it because we thought Arteta was a certain type and then he's become that

Maybe there's a little bit more criticism around it, or he's almost fooled us in believing he was something, now he's turned into something else.

No, I'm talking about the marginal gains, the dark hat.

They definitely do that.

There's no doubt about that.

And a lot of teams do.

Maybe Arsenal just push it a little bit further than maybe you expect teams who normally win the league.

I admire that.

See, Eddie, can I ask you about, I sit in this show, I think about a month, six weeks ago, that I felt Arsenal lacked a world-class talent in attack.

I still believe that, but what I want to ask you is, because we're talking about Mikel and maybe putting the reins on them or maybe sort of when they go 1-0 in front, maybe becoming a little bit more direct.

Do you think the players aren't, I'm not trying to put you on the spot, but almost aren't world class or actually he doesn't allow them to sort of have that freedom that maybe other coaches would to go and show what they can do?

Is that the game in general?

Mikel said that, didn't he, a few days ago at his press conference?

You are there.

For the third time in four matches, he has come off the bench to have a decisive impact.

Two winners and a late equaliser now in that run in the Premier League.

It was from a counter-attacking move that Michael Carrick

team got their win but also thanks to their goalkeeper Senna Lammens who keeps a clean sheet their first on the road in the Premier League since last March at Leicester and the defensive display as much to take the credit as the winning goal Gary yeah game of attrition it was a real struggle David Moyes will be frustrated his team put a lot of effort into that game they had a mountain of corners in that second half but credit to Manchester United they stood strong