Jamie Kern Lima

Yes. And you just reminded me too of after we launched on QVC, after we made it, after we started gaining traction, Alan Burke, remember the head guy that said, you're not the right fit for QVC or our customers?

Yes. And you just reminded me too of after we launched on QVC, after we made it, after we started gaining traction, Alan Burke, remember the head guy that said, you're not the right fit for QVC or our customers?

Yes. Okay. So after we launched, he ends up retiring from QVC. He'd been there several decades. He retired from QVC and we hire him. in a paid position on our advisory board. So the guy that rejected me is now working for me, right? And the days I was crying myself to sleep when he said, you are not the right fit for QVC or our customers, no one can tell you you are not the right fit.

Yes. Okay. So after we launched, he ends up retiring from QVC. He'd been there several decades. He retired from QVC and we hire him. in a paid position on our advisory board. So the guy that rejected me is now working for me, right? And the days I was crying myself to sleep when he said, you are not the right fit for QVC or our customers, no one can tell you you are not the right fit.

And I just believe in divine timing. And the other thing I wanted to share quickly is, you know, after When L'Oreal bought our company, right, they paid $1.2 billion cash. And because they're a public company, they had to report it and disclose the purchase price. The day the deal went through, because it was on the homepage of the Wall Street Journal, because it was everywhere...

And I just believe in divine timing. And the other thing I wanted to share quickly is, you know, after When L'Oreal bought our company, right, they paid $1.2 billion cash. And because they're a public company, they had to report it and disclose the purchase price. The day the deal went through, because it was on the homepage of the Wall Street Journal, because it was everywhere...

It was the first day I heard from that one investor, that potential investor, who said women won't buy makeup from someone who looks like you with your body and your weight. It had been six years. And that was the first time I heard from him. And he said, congratulations on the L'Oreal deal. I was wrong.

It was the first day I heard from that one investor, that potential investor, who said women won't buy makeup from someone who looks like you with your body and your weight. It had been six years. And that was the first time I heard from him. And he said, congratulations on the L'Oreal deal. I was wrong.

Right? Oh, my gosh. Megan, had he believed in me six years earlier, I was so desperate. I had no money. I didn't know how we were going to make it. Oh, you would have given so much equity away. because he didn't believe in me, we are still the largest shareholder. We sold our company. And by the way, when he said that, when he said, congratulations on the L'Oreal deal, I was wrong.

Right? Oh, my gosh. Megan, had he believed in me six years earlier, I was so desperate. I had no money. I didn't know how we were going to make it. Oh, you would have given so much equity away. because he didn't believe in me, we are still the largest shareholder. We sold our company. And by the way, when he said that, when he said, congratulations on the L'Oreal deal, I was wrong.

I don't know if you remember in the movie, Pretty Woman, where she goes,

I don't know if you remember in the movie, Pretty Woman, where she goes,

Yes. I was like, I want to say big mistake. Huge. Right. But I didn't. I kept it really classy. I wouldn't have wanted to be him.

Yes. I was like, I want to say big mistake. Huge. Right. But I didn't. I kept it really classy. I wouldn't have wanted to be him.

Hallelujah. I am getting emotional right now. Getting out of the prove-it game, like, feels like joy, tastes like freedom. Megan, Duchess of Sussex, in her first ever podcast interview.

Hallelujah. I am getting emotional right now. Getting out of the prove-it game, like, feels like joy, tastes like freedom. Megan, Duchess of Sussex, in her first ever podcast interview.

It's happening.

It's happening.

I have not like done a show with no makeup since my thousand QVC shows. Do you think

I have not like done a show with no makeup since my thousand QVC shows. Do you think