Jamie Rubin

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3,234 appearances 20 recordings 1 series first heard Jun 2026 last heard 4d ago

Jamie Rubin’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Recordings per month over the last 12 months — 20 in all, peaking in Jul 2026 with 7.

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Christiane Amanpour Presents: The Ex Files · Q&A: Europe’s border crisis & AOC for President? · 20 Aug 2026 podcast

One side of the debate, which is to create the perception that there's going to be a horde, an invasion, a swarm, a changing of our culture. voice-verified

And I think it's a hard subject. voice-verified

Um, the the substance of it is very, very difficult to get legal immigration right and to get illegal immigration right isn't easy. voice-verified

Um, and it's going to be a problem that governments are going to deal with for a long, long time. voice-verified

You're absolutely right. voice-verified

Syrian uh refugee crisis. voice-verified

I was there in London. voice-verified

Uh we were living together then. voice-verified

It really was used by the supporters of Brexit, and there was a a daily re uh in uh voice-verified

Headlines every single day of refugees coming into Greece or coming into Italy. voice-verified

And it really looked like an invasion. voice-verified

And so it is an area where irresponsible behavior can exaggerate the problem. voice-verified

On the other hand, there has to be a way to distinguish between those refugees that have a genuine fear of being killed and should be taken in for. voice-verified

Humanitarian reasons, and those who are just trying to uh improve their lot. voice-verified

And the world is not a fair place. voice-verified

And it is true that if you're born in some countries, you have a less good chance of thriving than if you're born in other countries. voice-verified

But that's not fixable by opening borders. voice-verified

And I think too for too long, um, the idea of uh easy immigration uh was voice-verified

Was pushed. voice-verified

And for example, in my country, people were trying to, for a while there in the Democratic Party, suggest that the border in the South shouldn't be a criminal offense if you go in across the border. voice-verified

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