Jamie Wall

And I think that that's something that people maybe, when we talk about these hybrid players, people aren't sort of understanding is the ability to adjust to being a man down midfield.

on the field, especially if you've got a defensive scrum.

To be able to bring a guy in from the midfield or in from the wing and chuck him on a flanker and actually bolster your scrum enough that you've got the same power you had as someone who should have been there in the first place, that's a really valuable thing.

So I think that there's these little things along the way that Leicester can bring.

Is he going to bring them in a test match against the Springboks?

I don't know.

Could it probably happen in July?

Yeah, I do think so, especially that test against Italy.

That could be a chance for the All Blacks to try something.

You're right, though.

It's not like the All Blacks are screaming out for solutions at loose forward.

There's a ton of options before least if I'm going to argue.

Yeah, yeah, I'd agree.

I'd agree with that.

And that is in a position where there are, we talked about depth issues.

There's certainly none at lock, considering that we've still got Fabian Holland to come back from injury as well.

It is interesting because I kind of thought Scott Barrett would be back by now for the Crusaders as they head towards...

Yeah, yeah.

So that is interesting.

And how that affects his return to play, it's probably something we need to ask the Crusaders about at some stage and what their plan is around him.