Jan Agafjortov

And I kicked him so hard and he fell down and I kind of stamped on him when he was down.

I was so mad at him.

And then he stood up and said, that's what I want from you, Jan.

And from that day, he was my best mate in the team.

So sometimes you've got to do what you've got to do.

What do you mean, Steve, you get away?

When you started a career, you could kill people without getting a booking.

Wasn't it the story with Jackie Charlton, the one World Cup winner for England?

He had a list of people that he was going to take out in games.

He had a list.

He wrote them up so he shouldn't forget them when he played them.

But it's interesting because as a centre forward when you came to England and I came from Austria, I mean, one of my first games was against Liverpool, I played against Neil Ruddock.

I mean, how do you protect yourself in the beginning of games?

So the ball is coming like flying up to you and you know that the centre half will go through you.

So how do you protect yourself?

Because you can't go down like this.

You have to do something, so you kind of need to have your elbow without doing like this, but you've still got to protect yourself.

Wow.

So in Jackie Charlton's time, they were even worse.

I mean, it must be terrible.