Jan Böhmermann

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2,587 appearances 16 recordings 1 series first heard Aug 2024 last heard Mar 2025

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Of course they will say that.
We've been analyzing this for years now with our limited intellectual capabilities and possibilities. But how do we put the next practical step on it? So should we now try to get in touch with Burkhard Garweg and Daniela Kledde and Ernst-Folger Staub? And again, the intervention ... The interventionist, terrorist approach.
Do we want to try to convince Friedrich Merz to stop his hostility and to try to direct his energy towards strengthening democratic institutions? Do we want to find Robert Habeck offensive, even though it's a bit cringe?
It's actually the 13th year now. So with Radio 1 in the title. The golden 13th year. So I have to take a strict look at our unwell metastasized community for 13 years and say, hey guys, we're doing something here, but that's politics and world change and world design, that's not a service industry. You can't sit there and wait for the cult Olli to change the world with his concerts.
I'm in Saarbrücken today, I don't have the time, so today on the 19th I'm in Saarbrücken, we'll take it a little earlier on the podcast, because I'm already so in tour stress. We'll even take it so far before.
I would say I'll try again with anecdotal, to somehow limit it a bit, what my current feeling for the year 2025 is. Yes.
Ich bin ins Jahr reingerutscht. Ich will gar nicht so sehr über diese Titelthesen-Temperamente-Geschichte, die hier wirklich einfach jetzt auf Wochen zurückliegt. Ich habe mir dabei aber einen größeren Gedanken gemacht und ich hoffe, dass wir vielleicht da ansetzen können. Weil was mir bei dieser ganzen TTT-Diskussion, die so Anfang des Jahres...
was so important in my peer group and where I was a bit interested in.
I totally missed it as someone who has been in and out of these structures that produce such shows for years and works with them. I wished for structural debates and structural ideas and approaches. Because narrowing it down to a personal debate in the end is of course effective in the individual case, But somehow the problem remains.
So this uncertainty of publicly legal decision-makers, who obviously do not know exactly what they are doing there, in the good as in the bad. That's a thing that goes through a lot of institutions. And then the question of how to deal with it in the future. So political institutions, social institutions like the Public Law Journal, they suffer from lack of expertise, no desire.
People don't want to get involved in it. People who have balls, who can make clear decisions, can also stand up to their decisions, who are brave, who are angry, who want to shape something, tend to stop in such institutions, which is a problem that we have been discussing for years. But is that maybe an approach?
Would that be something where you could theoretically say, this is how you could change things step by step,
die sich überlegen, ein kleines Café aufzumachen oder nach Dubai in eine Unternehmensberatung zu gehen oder mit Krypto reich zu werden, das einfach mal kurz zur Seite stellen und sagen, nee, jetzt geht es um was Größeres, um eine Legacy, um irgendwas, was ich meinen Kindern hinterlassen möchte. Und ich gehe jetzt einfach mal, ich werde jetzt Vorsitzender des Ordnungsamtes.
Oder ich gehe, ich mache... My first state exam in law school, I apply for it so that I can get involved in politics and really try to become something in a party. Or, for example, create new parties or make an existing party better. Or to get involved in offices, in institutions like the Öffentlich-Rechtlichen Rundfunk and try to design things there. Because I think few people do that.
Of course, it's always easier to destroy things, even in terms of language, rhetoric, in criticism, than to build things up. That's why I have a very deep respect for media critics, for example, who sit in their small office communities and say what's all shit and why something isn't really cool, from my perspective.
And as someone who tries to build it myself, you just notice how incredibly complex and incredibly exhausting it is to make a little bit of progress, not just to do it, but above all to keep it. Because once you've made progress, it's not like it stays that way, but there are always forces that are against it and that push against it and that sort of do the work.
Yeah, and I think it's so easy to say, like Elon Musk, disruption, disruption, I'm the richest person in the world. Breaking it is totally easy. In the criticism, of course, I know from my own experience, speaking badly is always much easier than trying to do something cool yourself. And maybe... You can say that for every bad thing you say, you have to try to create something good yourself.
And I think that creating something good takes longer and it is accompanied by fewer rewards and it can also fail. And that's why people don't even try. And this basic feeling of saying, someone will fix it. So also from smart people who are successful in their professions, who then say, Yes, man, what about politics, what do you want to do? But that will certainly go well somehow.
If you think that, I think the first mistake is made, because it will not go well if you think that someone else is taking care of it. That someone else is doing all this for you. Yes, exactly.
It doesn't matter, it's the beginning of the first show.
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