Jan Van Maren

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Training Without Conflict® | Dog Training Podcast · Episode Fifty-Eight: Jan Van Maren · 22 Apr 2025 podcast

Yeah, and in dog sport, everything is about conditioning. Conditioning behavior, conditioning the exercises. So that's also for that kind of part in the program, of course. You cannot expect the same results if you never train it. Or not enough. In some ways, we make it more difficult for ourselves to change the picture for the dog than it needs to be.

Well, with young dogs, we're using it always to start. Because you need to evaluate the behaviors that the dog is showing. And if a handler is having the leash and it gets the leash at the wrong time.

Yeah, and the biggest problem is you don't know exactly what the dog should have reacted. Right. Because you're doing something to get a result. You're not doing things to look back and say, oh, he did that. No, you're doing things because you know a dog's going to give that reaction what you can reward to improve the behavior. Well, that's the way I think we should think.

Well, I think every dog is different. Every dog reacts different. Like I would tell you, like my thinking is when... So if a dog... Some dogs need to be encouraged to... To wake it up, right? But I don't see a lot of benefits for a dog that... as doing it genetically easier. I like what you're saying. There are more things than chasing someone away in our program.

Dogs are evaluated on grips and stuff. And you can use that kind of methods, but without knowledge how dogs learn, how dogs react, well, maybe you're shaping a behavior that that you eventually not want.

Because if dogs chasing a helper continuously away and getting high in aggression and you don't have the knowledge how to teach a proper grip, then you're going to have a big problem with the grips and probably the outs and the control with the handler and et cetera, et cetera.

And yeah, that's also a problem in the sport that we are doing. In these times, people want to look good. instead of enjoying to teach dog things, to experience different faces and trying new things. Well, it's sport that we're practicing, so it's not all written in a book how to get every type of dog, that kind of result.

You have to process it by yourself and helpers are getting better with trying things and be sharp on what the results are and Well, just experiencing the dog sport, how it should be with different phases, different drives, the different motions, the different exercises.

The more exercises you're doing, the more insight you get from a dog and the more you can learn from a dog and the better you will be as helper. Right. Also at trials.

We start quite early. We start quite early. What is obedience exactly? Maybe the first couple of times, if a puppy is very little, we're going to let it chase the jute and stuff. And let's see if he gets a bite or no bite. Because every dog is different. When it's in the dog, we take always a moment of rest. So they teach all other kinds of things. And after like seven, eight months, when a dog...

When we think a dog can make a relationship between prey drive and aggression and can handle that kind of behavior, then we're going to start doing protection again. And yeah, the dog needs to sit and needs to watch.

Yeah. Yeah. And you can make a break in between exercises. So it's not continuously bite, bite, bite, bite, but also a few moments of rest for a dog so that the dog can relativate. Yeah.

I have two opinions. One as someone who really enjoys if someone gets a lot of success and looks good, so points wise. As a helper it's nice to do it by yourself. Yeah, that's why I'm a helper and I love the sport. Yeah. But, well... As a non-helper,

Because you get a lot of repetitions... As earlier mentioned, it's all about conditioning. Conditioning behavior, conditioning behavior, conditioning behavior. And in the end, for a dog, it's easier to recognize the situation.

And it makes you... you're rewarding faster and more clear for a dog, because the dog knows the exercise, the dog knows how to react. I've seen that before, I know what to do with it. Yes, it knows the picture, so you can make steps.

Well, the bite exercises, if handlers doing it by their own, they want to make it look good. So they don't want to let the dog make mistakes. What I understand, of course, because they want to get result, but well,

um a helper that is focused on getting the best out of the dog raising the bar always and making the dog hey it's not so easy yes so it's not bad if if dog slips a half off in a training because of you making a motion or something else because well um the second time the dog is not going to let him surprise the second time. So then the whole exercise is improving again instead of not improving.

My opinion about barking is a dog is going to bark because it gets frustrated most of the times. So if it's getting frustrated because of not getting the sleeve or getting frustrated because of not getting the ball, I think a good train you can have almost a copy of the behavior. Mm-hmm.

Do you think sometimes some dogs, like I... I've seen really good results with dogs that were... Taught by the owner. Yeah. With very intense guarding and stuff without seeing a difference between, well, dogs that are taught by helpers.

And I, um, To teach dog, it's quite something, of course. Being a helper, it's already quite difficult because all of the movements, all of the techniques you need to know, then doing it in different situations, different circumstances. And, well, it would be perfect if a helper knows how a dog learns and how to understand behaviors of a dog.

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