Jan Van Maren
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first heard Apr 2025
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Training Without Conflict® | Dog Training Podcast · Episode Fifty-Eight: Jan Van Maren · 22 Apr 2025
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And it's like. Yes. And as helper, you need to be sharp with that kind of dogs because you need to see everything what's going on, what's happening, how's the dog reacting and stuff. It makes you a really good helper, I think.
two, three times a week. Two, three times a week. Just to get all the repetitions that you eventually need to... Yeah, to get to a certain stage in it, right? Yes, to get to a certain stage and to manage, to really manage the behavior. Because to manage a behavior, you need to have many repetitions in certain situations.
Well, if a dog is running out a little bit, then I think then it's not challenging enough. So a dog will always need to be challenged. And if you're staying like a half year with one exercise, then it's never going to improve because there are no... Yes, it's like playing chess, just moving one piece, right?
So sometimes, even if you add up to that, the dog cannot go further, but sometimes you need to make the step to make all other things better again. And the focus is not going to be on that point anymore.
No, no, I think so as well. But my, my preference is, uh, because, uh, uh, uh, I grew up with dog sport at the German shepherd club with German shepherds. Um, My preference is going to that because as helper you're using other techniques a little bit if you're used to work German Shepherds or Malinois. So tell me more about this. This is interesting.
Well, for example, the athleticism from a Malinois for the long bite. So as helper you're going to the dog and With almost every helper, if you watch trials, the sleeve is a little bit to the side of the body.
Yes, or maybe it's the problem that the sleeve is on the side, that they are walking, so not one stable position, because... Even in the long bite, if you're coming across the corner and you give the signal that you're there and you're moving the sleeve, it's still prey drive again. Right. So that's another discussion. But if you compare the athleticism of a Malinois that can turn in like...
a half meter in front of you to the other side yeah cut you off yeah yeah yeah so the footwork is different so with the german shepherd you can recognize quite early uh which uh which side he which side he is going to choose so you have a little bit more time to to prepare yourself and and stuff and and in the end it's all uh in this but with the with the malinois
I make my steps always much shorter so I can always move a little quicker and be ready. Just be more prepared that the dog can choose the other way.
I'm working in the beginning way more passive than with the German Shepherd, just trying to give them confidence, confidence, confidence.
Yes, you need to teach the grips and stuff. You need to teach the confidence. So also with the Mali, sometimes it's difficult to recognize, but a lot of Malinois are coming really, really fast. But, well, maybe 70% is not secure of their own. So they are getting on speed and they are going to make that bite, yeah, maybe with different intentions. The intention is different.
And, well, my opinion is at the most, well, I'm happy not so many accidents happen, but... If it happens, it's most of the times that kind of dogs that are limping afterwards.
Well, I don't think that there's a lot of differences in we need to manage that that kind of things so if a dog is giving too much energy in the beginning maybe you should make the exercises longer so so the dog is going um to get used to how to to pace yes um yeah
endurance between the malinois and german shepherd german shepherds can also run out of gas quite early quite fast if they are not in shape i think they are more that's true that's actually true a lot of times um
Yeah, they have to give the energy. Right. And I think Malinois is genetically... They should handle it a little bit easier. Physically, but mentally they burn. Yeah, that's why we start quite easy with teaching the bite work.
Well, it helps. It helps if you're fit and if you can make the dynamic moves and can have the athleticism to let the dog miss and stuff. Because that's also a little bit about speed and timing and... But on the other hand, I've also seen very good results with people who weren't that fit and kind of things. And I'm also not really fit.
No, the dog has to move you. Well, that would be an optimal picture, that the dog is going to move you, is trying to make the program which you have chosen.
Yeah, sure. Yeah. If... You always must have in mind the end result that you want to get. The end result is also not a helper that is jumping around everything. That's just doing the program with certain exercises. Yeah. Jumping around to get the attention of the dog is not giving you an excellent guarding. An excellent guarding is a dog that wants to move you away from him.
Yes, I have. It depends if the dog is getting ready for competitions or not. So if we're preparing a dog for a competition season, my preference is to put the dog two months in front in program. and make little changes in the program just to keep the dog sharp. Interesting, yeah.
Because if you're not doing it, the dog is always trying to find his own benefit in a certain exercise after a lot of repetitions. A dog is going to find a way out of something. And well, if you haven't worked through that kind of things... it may pop up at the trial, what you don't want.
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