Janet Leigh

Because what people forget is that we could not show penetration of a weapon.

So you could never see the knife going in, so you couldn't use a retractable knife.

I mean, it had no purpose.

what what you saw was you saw the the knife go back and lunge forward and then you showed the shot of either a you know the shoulder or the tongue or the thigh or whatever um and you in your mind imagined it going in there but you and then you saw it pull back and then you saw it go again but you never saw it enter the body because it's not was not allowed

I think that just, it wasn't always Tony Perkins doing that with the knife, you know.

He had different people doing it.

With stand-ins?

Stand-in, somebody, a woman at one point, so that the audience could never get a fix on the character.

I mean, they all had the same clothes and wig and everything on, but different people were in different shots so that the audience could never kind of get a glimmer of who it might be.

Oh, you mean so even on screen we weren't always seeing Jane Perkins?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, absolutely.

He wasn't even there.

He was in New York rehearsing a play, I think.

That's very sneaky.

Yes, of course, but that's Mr. Hitchcock.

Because if the same person did it all the time, there was a possibility, slim but still a possibility, that perhaps the audience might guess it.

And the...

I didn't really need a lot of other thoughts in my head because when that shower curtain goes back and you look at this figure, which is exactly what they did in the thing, you know, I mean, that's pretty frightening.

I didn't have any trouble with that.