Janine Turner

Dr. Hotez mentioned the ones I worry about, and I've worried about things like that for 40 years. Have you been worried about it for 40 years? I have, I've been dealing with it for 40 years. Should you have been worried about it all that time? Would your life have been better? Would you have been safer?

Dr. Hotez mentioned the ones I worry about, and I've worried about things like that for 40 years. Have you been worried about it for 40 years? I have, I've been dealing with it for 40 years. Should you have been worried about it all that time? Would your life have been better? Would you have been safer?

Would you have not had illnesses that you ended up getting because you worried about, and you altered the course of your life because you're a biological agent? No, that's ridiculous.

Would you have not had illnesses that you ended up getting because you worried about, and you altered the course of your life because you're a biological agent? No, that's ridiculous.

It's not just media, it's the sickness of brainwashing and that media has, I didn't realize that, I thought propaganda was something that happened in the 1930s. I didn't realize that humans are always prone to being brainwashed by propaganda or that it could happen. It really was very surprising to me.

It's not just media, it's the sickness of brainwashing and that media has, I didn't realize that, I thought propaganda was something that happened in the 1930s. I didn't realize that humans are always prone to being brainwashed by propaganda or that it could happen. It really was very surprising to me.

It's funny. There was a podcast called You Are Not So Smart that I used to listen to before COVID because I was... I was frustrated with people that I couldn't persuade through rational discourse. And in particular, I was frustrated with flat earthers. And I thought, God, how could I get a flat?

It's funny. There was a podcast called You Are Not So Smart that I used to listen to before COVID because I was... I was frustrated with people that I couldn't persuade through rational discourse. And in particular, I was frustrated with flat earthers. And I thought, God, how could I get a flat?

I mean, literally, I want to go to them and say, the basic laws of mathematics and trigonometry and geometry would have to be null and void if I were to take your point of view.

I mean, literally, I want to go to them and say, the basic laws of mathematics and trigonometry and geometry would have to be null and void if I were to take your point of view.

And it turns out, the one thing I learned from studying this a little bit is that it's a worldview and it's a community and it's the connections in that community then that shared worldview that is what's important, not the facts. You can actually persuade someone Let's say the measles vaccine is good.

And it turns out, the one thing I learned from studying this a little bit is that it's a worldview and it's a community and it's the connections in that community then that shared worldview that is what's important, not the facts. You can actually persuade someone Let's say the measles vaccine is good.

Even an anti-vaxxer could be persuaded the measles vaccine is good, but there's something called the backfire effect where they'll double down on everything else. So even though you may be able to persuade them in a narrow area where you really get them to dig in, they'll double down on other areas that are similar.

Even an anti-vaxxer could be persuaded the measles vaccine is good, but there's something called the backfire effect where they'll double down on everything else. So even though you may be able to persuade them in a narrow area where you really get them to dig in, they'll double down on other areas that are similar.

And the only way you can go about it is to go, have you thought that maybe your thinking about the world is off? And how often can you get in that conversation with somebody and really get anywhere, right? It's so funny, myself, because I'm in that 10% that doesn't seem to be affected by typical brainwashing.

And the only way you can go about it is to go, have you thought that maybe your thinking about the world is off? And how often can you get in that conversation with somebody and really get anywhere, right? It's so funny, myself, because I'm in that 10% that doesn't seem to be affected by typical brainwashing.

The 30% go all in, 23% go all in, 10% throw the bullshit flag right away, and 70% just kind of want to be left alone. That's the mass formation numbers. I'm at the point right now, you saw Joe Rogan's stand up where he said, I don't know, maybe the earth is flat, maybe Michelle Obama has, I don't know. He said, I'm up for anything. And I kind of feel like that now.

The 30% go all in, 23% go all in, 10% throw the bullshit flag right away, and 70% just kind of want to be left alone. That's the mass formation numbers. I'm at the point right now, you saw Joe Rogan's stand up where he said, I don't know, maybe the earth is flat, maybe Michelle Obama has, I don't know. He said, I'm up for anything. And I kind of feel like that now.

I'm open to everything because things that I thought could never be turned out to be. And that was exposed to me during COVID.

I'm open to everything because things that I thought could never be turned out to be. And that was exposed to me during COVID.