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Jared Isaacman

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

35 years and $100 billion have been spent trying to get us back to the moon.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

And we haven't flown humans around the moon, which we did in Apollo 8, you know, in 1968.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

We haven't even done that yet, let alone landing.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

So like, we gotta admit that what we're doing right now is imperfect.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

Um, and it's hard in a politically divided time and like, you know, you know, Elon's bad and all these things people say, it's like, it kind of in somehow balances out to like what we're doing must be right.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

No, like there can be lots of things wrong.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

And, and certainly there's a lot of things wrong at NASA, um, and not unique to NASA.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

It's like government wide, but, um, we got to reorganize.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

You know, there's 50 different safety departments inside NASA.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

It doesn't mean safety isn't important, but if you have 50 different offices that all have the ability to say no, that's not a good thing necessarily.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

Like safety should build up logically.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

So one department has all the necessary information to make the right call.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

And honestly, we got to recalibrate that risk framework because like you're not going to explore the worlds beyond ours without taking some risks.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

This kind of trying to drive risk to zero is why telescopes that are supposed to cost a billion become $15 billion.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

Why, you know, missions that are supposed to take people back to the moon are taking 35 years and a hundred billion.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

So, and we need cultures around ownership.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

We need accountability.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

We need, you know, freaking more doers and less management.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

Everybody inside the agency has a deputy or a vice who has a chief of staff, who has a deputy chief of staff.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#234 Jared Isaacman - Will China Trigger the Next Sputnik Moment for NASA?

I mean, departments with six people in it have a chief and a deputy chief.