Jared Isaacman

I think he taught me a lot about just who I am, but also how I fly.

I've certainly had some successes against some of our less skilled fighter pilot friends.

Yeah, I mean, not anywhere near as much as like the dedicated line guys.

I mean, who did we, we hired people right out of the aggressor squadrons because they were very current on the tactics and the threat.

But I did fly in it from time to time.

I was part of a big exercise at White Sands Missile Range.

We did a 16 turn 16.

And we just got these new aircraft in from overseas.

And I was the first one checked out in it.

So I had to fly in it, which was awesome.

Nice.

That was cool.

But I was in A-4s when we were fighting the first kind of F-35, the JOT, the Joint Operational Test Team at Edwards.

flown in some A4s at Fallon, brought the first L159s to Fallon, but nowhere near like the guys that were doing it full-time every day, so.

So I'll give you two sides to this.

In the beginning, so when we first started the company, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, I felt really good.

So F-35s were just coming online.

And I remember we had four.

It was supposed to be just a 4v4, which means we should just get killed.

A4s against four F-35s from the Joint Operational Test Team.