Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
The deal that's on the table right now between Saudi, Israel, and America is in Saudi's interests, it's in America's interests, and it's in Israel's interests.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
What's going to happen now, though, is the political dynamics are going to shift.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
And I think that, as we've seen with political dynamics, they come and go.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
I think let's get through this moment, and then I hope at the right time that those talks will be able to resume and conclude in an appropriate way.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
And it's funny, Lex, when I was working on the US-Mexico agreement for the trade, we would have every day there'd be a tweet that would go out or there would be an issue.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
I mean, people forget how intense it was between America and Mexico.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
And I would speak to my counterpart in Mexico after a rough day and we were working on something, we were making progress, it'd get blown up.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
And I'd speak to him and say, you know what, look,
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
they're not moving America, they're not moving Mexico.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
Let's just, you know, let's stop for today.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
Let's pick up tomorrow and let's find a new way to bring this forward.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
So I would just encourage everyone working on that, not to give up, to keep working hard at it and to find a way.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
But like I said, I would take a little bit of a pause for the time being.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
Let's let the current situation play out and then hopefully there'll be a way for it to move forward.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
I think there'll definitely be communication, but words on phone calls is only worth so much.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
It's really trust between people and power.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
And obviously, when you're in a position of power, you represent your country and your country's interests.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
But the ability to have trusting relationships where people feel like they're okay taking more risks to help each other, that's actually what's most important.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
So communication, I hope for, but
Lex Fridman Podcast
#399 β Jared Kushner: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, and the Middle East
deepening and trusting relationships.