Jared Kushner

And you're right, too.

There's way more emojis involved in diplomacy than I ever would have expected.

Yeah, completely in every way.

I mean, that's an incredible book and it's a very entertaining read.

It has obviously a lot of good historical context on some of the key players, whether it was Anwar Sadat or Menachem Begin or Jimmy Carter and Cy Vance and a lot of the others who were involved with those negotiations.

And

The thing that I kind of took from that experience was just how personal it was.

And again, one of my favorite stories from that book was how Anwar Sadat, who was a big, big leader, he had a mystic who was, according to this book, again, history, I like reading it, but I always realize that you have to notice that this is just the perspective of a given author that's writing it.

But the way that they write this book was that he had an advisor who was a mystic, and the mystic was having a back channel with the Israelis.

And the mystic told Sadat, if you go to Israel and you make a speech at the Knesset, Bagan is ready to give you the Sinai.

And so he goes to Israel.

They set this whole thing up.

He goes and gives the Knesset.

They go for their meeting after.

And Sadat says, okay, well, are we going to do this thing?

And Bagan says, what are you talking about?

I'm not giving you an inch of our land.

And it was just one of these things where it was a miscommunication that brought about the symbolic visit of Anwar Sadat to Israel.

And that was one of these notions that just made everyone think that something was possible that they thought was impossible a moment before.

Actually, we had an example like that during our time in government when we