Jared Kushner

It was just the only way to be.

I mean, if I was giving up a nice life in New York, and if I was giving up the stuff that I really enjoyed, the company that I'd helped build, and the life that I was enjoying in order to do government, I was going there to make a difference.

And we had to focus on it.

The other skill set, so there was a couple of skill sets that I found were quite deficient in government.

First of all, there was a ton of amazing people.

I mean, people talk about the bureaucracy and

What I found was is you had incredibly committed, passionate, intelligent, capable people all throughout the government.

And what they were waiting for, though, was direction and then cover in order to get there.

And so there were a lot of tasks that I worked on, whether it was building the wall at the southern border, where I was able to work with Customs Border Patrol, Army Corps of Engineers, military, DHS professionals, DOD.

And we basically all came together.

And then once we had a good project management plan, we were able to kind of move very, very quickly.

I think we built about 470 miles of border barrier in about two years, basically.

And that worked very well because we basically brought private sector project management skill sets, which were quite often missing in government.

The second one is just, you know, we spoke about negotiation earlier.

I would say that most people in government, it's just a different form of negotiation than you see in the private sector and way less effective in that regard, which is why I think it's good the more we can encourage more people with private sector experience to do a stint in government and to –

really try to contribute and serve their country.

That's how our founders, I mean, George Washington and all the founding fathers, they were working on their farms.

They left their farms serving government, then they went back to the farm.

And that was kind of the design of the representative government.

It wasn't a career political class.