Jared Kushner

And so seeing that play out was very, very hard.

Obviously, you know, I was accused of a lot of things.

There were times in Washington I was radioactive.

I remember one weekend.

um you know it was all over cnn you know the people they panels on cnn like the news organization that i grew up thinking was like the number one trusted name for news in the world talking about how i'd committed treason because i met with an ambassador and said we'd like to hear your perspective on what you think the policy should be in syria where there was a big civil war happening and and isis and a lot of different things

It was quite a crazy time in that regard, but luckily, again, we were able to fight through it.

It was a major distraction for our administration.

I think we were able to stay focused on the objectives and the policies, but it was a crazy time.

I learned a lot from that experience.

So it was a surreal experience.

I would say number one is I felt very confident that I hadn't done anything wrong.

So I'd always tell my lawyer, the good news is I've got a good fact problem.

I need a good lawyer to get me through it, but it's much easier to be a good lawyer if you have a very innocent client.

And so the fact that I knew that I didn't have, I didn't believe that I had any legal liability was

helped me kind of intellectually separate the challenge I needed to do to fight through it from it.

And then I just basically said, like, you know, I'd had hardship earlier in my life where I dealt with the situation with my father.

And what I realized there is that you can't really spend energy on

on the things that you don't control.

All you can do is spend your time and energy worrying about what you can control and then how you react to the things that you have there.

And so it took a lot of discipline.