Jase Robertson

I think when you say it, John Luke, you earlier made an intimation to this point that the best reality I see that's a result of that is marriage.

I love the way you framed it.

Is it a thought or is it real, flesh and bone?

When you make a decision...

to marry somebody, it's not just, well, it's a thought, an idea, although people do, and then they get divorced because there's no real intimacy there.

But when you have spiritual, emotional, physical intimacy with another real person, and then you create life together that then you get to raise and grow and be a part of and shape, I mean, that's when we're the most like the Almighty, right?

Because that's what he does for us.

It's more than just an ethereal idea.

It's a reality.

And that's why everything else is false.

That's why pornography and affairs and hookups and all these different things that are out there that people participate in, it's not real.

There's no real true intimacy in those things.

That's why they always come up and fail you.

And it kind of gets you out of the, we mentioned about Constantine and the buildings, because we didn't mention the basilicas he built and a lot of still beautiful things that we see today, but empty.

You know, just, they're beautiful.

They're great to look at.

Zach, we look at them all the time.

They're like museums.

Our role is to surrender to him.

to serve him, and to imitate him.