Jase Robertson

That's his background.

He's a white boot.

Because the white boots are more the shrimpers, and they're out there.

Commercial fishermen, yeah.

But look, this guy, what was interesting about it,

We made our original duck call insert out of cedar, which is a terrible wood to make duck calls out of as far as production because about one out of every four, and I said that yesterday, and he laughed because he knew I was right.

And he was like, oh, I know you know that.

I was like, yeah, because they bust.

And I used to tell my dad, I was like,

maybe we should get a little harder wood.

And he's like, the sound, Jase, the sound.

We got it.

So it was a running joke, but he appreciated that.

And then I was like, well, how do you make these?

Because he showed me his duck cut.

It's real soft and it's real small because it's made out of this cane wood.

And then the insert is cedar.

He cuts them out by hand with a pocket knife.

I was like –

For 50 years, you're making... And he stays, and he has this list of people.