Jasmine Sun

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827 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Mar 2026 last heard 11 Sep

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Hard Fork · The Ezra Klein Show: The A.I. Revolt Is Here · 11 Sep 2026 podcast

They were trying to win the vibes on AI Twitter in San Francisco.

And I kind of feel like they never realized everyone else could hear them, right?

And so now they're trying to take it back.

But like my sense is that Sam Altman for a long time

part of the reason he was talking about like, oh, shifting the balance of power from labor to capital and like rogue AI and whatever was also because he was winning points among people who he wanted to work at OpenAI.

And he had to communicate that he was as AGI-pilled as them.

He was as worried about the same safety things as them.

And now that his interest is more in political goodwill and IPO-ing and things like that, he sort of changed his tune.

I think that

Yeah, I'm not sure to what extent every AI industry actor has always believed the things that they've learned about.

Yeah.

I mean, I think the technological determinism is just such a big part of it.

I think that if I'm trying to think about how my friends in the industry would react to this conversation, that's the thing that they would say that we are not focusing on enough is they are so sure that there is no way that AGI or super intelligence or whatever it is does not get built.

And it is only a question of who builds it.

I think that fundamental sort of underlying belief is what justifies everything else is we have to be the ones to do it.

Us pulling back, us stopping is not going to prevent any of the bad stuff.

That's one of the things I'm worried about is I do think that we are pretty likely to see, we are seeing a lot of the social instability before we get the cancer cures, right?

And so, or even with the math stuff, it's like, I think that one thing I notice more and more now is this deep cultural and values gap between Silicon Valley and the rest of America, the rest of the world.

I'm not saying that Silicon Valley is wrong, that it's cool to like

disprove the Jacobian conjecture, right?

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