Jasmine Sun

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827 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Mar 2026 last heard 11 Sep

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Hard Fork · ‘A.I.-Washing’ Layoffs? + Why L.L.M.s Can’t Write Well + Tokenmaxxing · 20 Mar 2026 podcast

You might qualify to help Elon, to help Annie from Grok write a little bit better.

Yeah, so anyway, so these companies, because they realize that these AI researchers, they're really good at knowing what good coding is, but they don't actually know what good writing is.

So they're like, why don't we hire some humans to find out?

And so they'll commission MFAs and published authors and sometimes just random guys with a blog or whatever.

And one of the people I talked to who was a contractor for Scale AI as a writing evaluator

And he was doing this for one of the bigger labs.

He said that the rubrics just didn't make any sense.

He would be told things like, you have to grade them based on the number of exclamation marks that there are.

And so if something has three exclamation marks, that's too many.

And so you have to ding that one.

I mean, this is what they tell women in business communications.

It's like, take all those exclamation marks, replace them with periods.

Like, we are going to remove all of the I things.

But yeah, so he was sort of like being asked to grade these things or another one was he got a bunch of fan fictions and he was supposed to grade them on their factuality since that was one of the criteria.

I do imagine that one could, you know, devise better rubrics than this particular evaluator was given.

But I think it does show at least that some of these like very big companies that are very well resourced simply do not know how to think about what good writing is.

I think both are true.

It's like the majority of writing that we are asking the models to do is write this email for me.

Right.

And like they excel at that.

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