Jasmine Sun

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827 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Mar 2026 last heard 11 Sep

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Some of it, but not all of it.
I mean, so I talked to, for example, James Yu, who is the co-founder of PseudoWrite, which is one of the earliest creative fiction AI writing assistants.
I talked to some other folks who similarly were in the fiction writing LLM space.
And like you said…
To an extent, a lot of writers are already using these a lot, are already leaning on LLMs to generate large amounts of text.
And it can be very successful and it can meet readers' needs and whatever.
But like even these people who I was talking to, they were describing to me how freaking hard it is to undo all of the post-training that the labs have done.
So they are applying immense amounts of engineering effort that clearly, in my conversations with them, clearly frustrates them, that it is so hard to get these models to stop being so chirpy, so sycophantic, so PG-13 and everything, in order to get them to this sort of base model state where they're able to be weird again.
So I think it's certainly possible, but I think the labs have made it quite challenging just because of the way that these models are trained.
The other thing that I think is important is
I tend to think that writing and a lot of creative work is actually like the perfect use case for these centaur models, right?
Like the idea that the human plus AI collaboration is where you can get the furthest.
And when I listened to the interviews that you guys did about the fiction authors, I was thinking this is a centaur model, right?
Because without the human prompting and bullying the AI into getting weird and getting sensual and whatever, like,
It was not going to do that on its own.
And like I myself, like I do use LLMs as a research assistant.
Like I wrote about that inside the Atlantic piece about the way that Claude has now sort of helped me edit my own work in a way that I found incredibly useful.
But I do feel like the collaborative element is important for any domain where the personal perspective, lived experience, whatever really matters.
Yeah, so I feel like I really cracked this over the last, like, couple months, which I'm very excited about because, again, I've tried to make these things, like, write and edit for me over and over and over, and they've never really been able to do it.
So the thing that I realized was if I make Claude into an editor that is not just trying to grade and give feedback on my work against some genericized standard of what good writing is, but actually what we did against basically what my personal, Jasmine's personal aspirations for writing are, it can give feedback that I find much, much more helpful.
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