Jason Brough

I mean, there's none other.

Yeah, it's a disaster.

And I think that that's really important to nip in the bud whenever you can.

And there's only a handful of ways you can do it, especially at the executive level, because you can hire a guy that's not a traditional dyed-in-the-wool hockey guy, like what they did in Toronto with Jyka.

He just said the big word.

They're respected.

That's Sandin in Toronto.

Lindstrom was a better captain when they debate the two.

Now, because I always used to be.

Maybe Lindstrom.

It's a valid question all the way from the sewer.

Shout out to Raph and the sewers.

Totally valid question.

And I hate making this all about Toronto as we bounce back and forth, but it's hard not to.

But that is also.

according to reports, one of the things that gave Sundin pause, like when you leave a hero and you leave a franchise icon and you go away, your reputation remains intact because all anyone's basing your reputation off is the memories, the good times you left behind, right?

I mean, and you want to tie it to maybe make it more hyperlocal.

Like that was one of the big challenges that Lyndon faced when he came into the job.

Not just that he had his reputation on the line, but also minimal experience, and that elevated a role when he took it on.

He was running gyms at that point.