Jason Burke

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219 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Jun 2026 last heard 11 Sep

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That's part of the point of it.
It's not just about the sort of physical destruction or the loss of life.
It's about a much broader kind of ripple effect.
And there's no doubt that that surged through America, surged through Europe.
There there's the sense of yeah, that I mean the polls show that Islamophobia was at lower levels in the immediate aftermath of September the eleventh, two thousand one than it is now in the US.
I mean, which is astonishing.
Yeah, how much of that is a direct consequence of a single terrorist attack, uh lots of other things going on.
We got you know, it's very difficult to get that kind of causation, but it's certainly there.
And and that th th I've said that's what Bin Laden was looking for.
I think we can definitely say that there was
A a lot.
that came out of nine eleven.
that contributed to the rise of the MAGA movement and therefore Trump I mean, you know, part of the isolationism, part of the kind of suspicion of the rest of the world, part of the nativism, is simply due to the experience of being kind of scorched by a series of inconclusive, costly
conflicts.
the working class, middle class.
of globalisation, for example, which was forgotten as everybody went after Al Qaeda and and and Bin Laden.
You know, the the whole range of factors, the the the the the
undermining of trust in leaders too and th and the elite, you know, an elite.
I mean all of this is kind of bound in with
the the militarization, the language of the military that has gone into policing in the US and then has gone into kind of the ICU
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