Jason Calacanis

Ah, so that's where it comes from.

Still trying to get mom's love.

Tarek, can you maybe explain what Humane is and how it came to be?

Because it was sort of an evolution, right?

And you were given a pretty large balance sheet to do this with.

So should we think about this as we live in a world, as you said, when you're back home here in the US, there's AWS, there's GCP, there's

You know, Azure, it's just simple, straightforward, but the rest of the world, a little bit more complicated.

Do you see Humane being that competitive alternative for the rest of the world?

Is that how it starts or?

And what gives us the lay of the land from the foundational model side?

The open AIs, the anthropics, the groks.

How is that moving?

How do you work with them?

How do you make sure that everybody can get access to the latest models?

You see huge differences in how the foundational models process and digest data?

Let me ask you a point of question.

You're in Saudi.

There's an enormous amount of energy, almost a surfeit of energy.

Do you have this unfair advantage where if you need a vast amount of energy to throw out a compute problem, do you effectively get it for free or do you have to pay for it as well?

When they graduated, was it that they were thinking about staying in the U.S., getting an OPT, or was it this pull to go back and say, okay, we're now trained, let's go back and help our mother country?