Jason Calacanis

That they're just reading their own book.

So it's up to us to take a step back and actually see the forest from the trees.

I think, Nick, can you find this?

There was a clip of Sham Sankar, friend of the pod, fabulous guy, the CTO of Palantir.

And he was, I think he was on Fox News.

And he said, stop breathlessly asking these model makers what they think.

Go to the end user and ask the person in the factory that's using the model and ask him what he or she thinks.

Ask what the doctor thinks.

Ask what the scientists think.

And start to tell those stories.

That's what we should be talking about.

Yeah.

And Gavin, you were...

I was sort of asking you your opinion on who's causing this and then what's the solution?

Do you have folks you think in the industry who are representing it particularly well?

We can point out, hey, Elon has said we're going to move to a world of incredible abundance and working will be optional.

I think that's on the margin a little scary for people to hear because they hear no job.

But he does say, hey, universal basic income is probably going to have to come into place.

And he said that multiple times.

You have Dario, according to Chamath, talking his own book, scaring the bejesus out of people in order to get regulatory capture.