Jason Calacanis

Another example that's been given is if you put Optimus into Amazon factories or the figure robot just did like a week of just sorting packages.

I'm sure everybody saw that video inserted here.

that figure robots or anything.

Hey, if Amazon deploys those, there'll be a tax on those per hour and we'll tax humanoid robots in some ways and then use that for, say, retraining people.

Those are two very specific conditions and approaches that people have been promoting.

Do either of those resonate with you in any way?

I think it's interesting that in all of those discussions, I've yet to see an actual survey of only the truck drivers and only the package sorters.

Hmm.

The question that I would have is, do the people that do these jobs want these jobs?

And if they do, then there's a reasonable claim to make to keep those jobs the way that they are.

If you're saying, this is the job that I do, I love it, I'm able to provide for my family, great.

That's a very different argument than, well, you know what?

Amazon has 35 or 40% churn inside of their warehouses.

And we should probably ask the question, why is that?

Because if it was such a great job, I suspect the churn would be three or 4%.

So what exactly is it that we want to protect?

And have you asked them?

And I think that this is just, again, a bunch of people in the peanut gallery who want to take a moral high ground and try to make some other group of people feel guilty or feel bad.

At no point are we actually asking the conversation that we should be having, which is, it's interesting to me that there was supposed to be an EO, a presidential executive order that was announced today.

And then it was pulled.