Jason Calacanis

The founders

of America very much understood this.

And what they came up with is we have to have the guardians guard against each other.

And so they came up with the idea of separation of powers.

We'd have separation of federal and state.

We'd have the three branches of the government, even within the legislative branch, it was a bicameral legislature.

So they divided up the powers in a way that hopefully the guardians would check against each other as opposed to becoming tyrannical against us.

And that is kind of my view on AI is that ultimately we have to have a solution of checks and balances.

If the AI market becomes monopolized and falls into the hands of one or two companies, I would use antitrust law very aggressively as a check and balance against their power.

Right now, we have a very competitive market.

We have five frontier labs competing very aggressively.

As long as the market is competitive, I would use that because I think competition generates the best outcomes.

It helps us win against China, but it also protects the population because these companies, if they get out of line, there's some competitor that can offer something better.

No, this is right before Elon co-founded OpenAI, right?

It's back in 2015 or something.

Well, I guess the question then is why are they pushing for the let's call it red capture agenda where – I know one.

To steel man their position for a second, I mean, I think probably the way they think about it is that they are creating something very powerful, something godlike, and therefore it needs to be safe.

And that they care the most about that out of everybody.

Nobody else takes this seriously.

Remember that Anthropic was basically a spin-out of OpenAI, and they felt that Sam and the company leadership weren't taking their point of view seriously enough.